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Svett Caldari The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 03:05:00 - [121] A few people in bounty alone can get 4b+ a day from anoms.
OldPueblo Gallente DarkStar 1 SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.23 03:07:00 - [122] "Lol Dianabolic." That's all I got.
Omniwar Caldari Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 03:10:00 - [123] I saw this documentary once about how the US Army activly aimed to reqruit the poor and often less intelligent to fill their ranks
Nicolo da'Vicenza Amarr Dissonance Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.02.23 03:28:00 - [124] Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 23/02/2010 03:29:24 Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 23/02/2010 03:28:52 Originally by: Svett A few people in bounty alone can get 4b+ a day from anoms. i read from a very reliable source that 2 guys can get 65,500b+ a month from one system with anomalies
Xunasy Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.23 03:36:00 - [125] Originally by: Omniwar I saw this documentary once about how the US Army activly aimed to reqruit the poor and often less intelligent to fill their ranks You mean all armies ever right?
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 04:09:00 - [126] Originally by: Omniwar I saw this documentary once about how the US Army activly aimed to reqruit the poor and often less intelligent to fill their ranks he's probably a 2004-2008 recruit, aka the worst group of recruits in the history of the us army, ever.
Slay Deathdealer Amarr Sleepless Psychos	Posted - 2010.02.23 05:35:00 - [127] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Omniwar I saw this documentary once about how the US Army activly aimed to reqruit the poor and often less intelligent to fill their ranks he's probably a 2004-2008 recruit, aka the worst group of recruits in the history of the us army, ever. Off-topic - Any person that serves deserves their nation's respect. Period. On-topic - I can understand both sides of the situation. IT owns the area he wants to inhabit and exploit for his personal/corp gain and IT has every right to charge whatever they want. It's their region, either take it by force or find your 0.0 experience elsewhere. Op considers the amount to be too much, which I think is quite steep as well. I'm sure this is just my take on it, but I think the Op feels entitled to every aspect of the game. When I first started playing the game I was told about this mysterious 0.0 region, I was quite intrigued to go explore. A place where it was basically the wild west and vast isks could be made; however, big alliances would kill you on site if you tresspassed. I eventually came to acceptance that unless I was part of these "big bullies" I'd have to fly elsewhere in eve to seek out my stakes. I guess he hasn't gotten that far yet.
Psorion Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 06:39:00 - [128] WormHoles All the danger of 0.0 without the travel time.
OldPueblo Gallente DarkStar 1 SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.23 06:44:00 - [129] Originally by: Omniwar I saw this documentary once about how the US Army activly aimed to reqruit the poor and often less intelligent to fill their ranks Define irony.
Cadela Fria Amarr x13 IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 06:59:00 - [130] Edited by: Cadela Fria on 23/02/2010 07:01:13 Originally by: Slay Deathdealer Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Omniwar I saw this documentary once about how the US Army activly aimed to reqruit the poor and often less intelligent to fill their ranks he's probably a 2004-2008 recruit, aka the worst group of recruits in the history of the us army, ever. Off-topic - Any person that serves deserves their nation's respect. Period. On-topic - I can understand both sides of the situation. IT owns the area he wants to inhabit and exploit for his personal/corp gain and IT has every right to charge whatever they want. It's their region, either take it by force or find your 0.0 experience elsewhere. Op considers the amount to be too much, which I think is quite steep as well. I'm sure this is just my take on it, but I think the Op feels entitled to every aspect of the game. When I first started playing the game I was told about this mysterious 0.0 region, I was quite intrigued to go explore. A place where it was basically the wild west and vast isks could be made; however, big alliances would kill you on site if you tresspassed. I eventually came to acceptance that unless I was part of these "big bullies" I'd have to fly elsewhere in eve to seek out my stakes. I guess he hasn't gotten that far yet. Remarking on the off-topic bit: Being part of your nation's military in some respect or another does not automatically grant you the "Give me special treatment while I'm an a-hole to everyone else" card...Much less does it provide you with solid ground for your arguments being true. If you're wrong, you're wrong..simple as that. The fact that I'm not American is not really a relevant point to make, but if you really have to go that route in regards to the OP and his nation having to respect him, well there you are. Remarking on the on-topic bit: Look..it isn't as though we (IT) can't see the frustration..after having a talk with dianabolic in private, it seems our organisation largely rooted for the kind of change back before Dominion that the OP wants now, but we were more or less scolded by the general populace at the time ("sweet sweet 0.0 tears" and all that jazz) and now its more a case of "We told you so..." . Now I admit I didn't know that part myself until I had talked with dianabolic, but that doesn't invalidate my fundamental argument, which is this: No matter what progressive costs you put in, no matter how much you reduce sov holding of major alliances..be it down to 40, 30..or even 10 systems..you will still not be able to patch your way out of the fact that there is a group of 6000 people who don't want you (figuratively) near them unless you pay them/get controlled by them.

Slay Deathdealer Amarr Sleepless Psychos	Posted - 2010.02.23 07:45:00 - [131] Cadela Fria: First you should re-read the quotes in my message. Once you've done that, please tell me where I stated that the Op being in the military automatically validated any of his ideas/thoughts on the 0.0 situation for smaller entities. (Myabe it would be better understood as Off-topic/OUT of GAME)
Cadela Fria Amarr x13 IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 08:19:00 - [132] Originally by: Slay Deathdealer Cadela Fria: First you should re-read the quotes in my message. Once you've done that, please tell me where I stated that the Op being in the military automatically validated any of his ideas/thoughts on the 0.0 situation for smaller entities. (Myabe it would be better understood as Off-topic/OUT of GAME) I didn't say that you did. I was just making that point clear out of a loose statement saying that he (the OP) more or less deserved respect due to his affilliation with his nation's military.
Teckos Pech Gallente The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 08:31:00 - [133] Originally by: Imperator Ceasar Oh, I get it believe me - I'm a field grade officer in the US Army, my friend - I'm not stupid and there is no need to talk down to me. Right which is why you talk about forcing everyone else to play the game the way you think it should be played. You just don't understand the game.
Edna Sputum Caldari Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.02.23 08:55:00 - [134] It's definitely a "Dear Ceasar GTFO" price. It Alliance may be lots of things, but you can't say they don't know the value of space is. and one system without moons is NOT worth anything close to 15 billion. If it were, Everyone would be fliying around in Titans and faction ships. Inflation on teh Eve market would be skyrocketing. BUt it's not. IT quoting 15 billion to you is their way of saying they don't want you... and if you insist on working with them they'll make you pay for the priviledge. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.23 11:00:00 - [135] It doesn't really matter how much ISK you can make with Level 5 upgrades (and yes, it is a lot), the fact is that renting space is subject to the same market forces as anything else in EVE. And there are MUCH cheaper options. Still, nice of them to anchor the upgrades for you. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.23 11:37:00 - [136] This thread is experiencing a significant gravitas shortfall.
Cadela Fria Amarr x13 IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 11:39:00 - [137] Originally by: Borza Slavak This thread is experiencing a significant gravitas shortfall. omg please..I beg of you..don't let "gravitas" become the next meme -.-
The Ratfink Minmatar Reluctant Warriors	Posted - 2010.02.23 11:42:00 - [138] Originally by: OldPueblo "Lol Dianabolic." That's all I got. "lol we are still relevant." Is all I got from your post about someone else's post.
Eskalin Minmatar Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 11:46:00 - [139] Originally by: Cadela Fria Originally by: Borza Slavak This thread is experiencing a significant gravitas shortfall. omg please..I beg of you..don't let "gravitas" become the next meme -.- and it's done. thanks cadela for jinxing it nothing but internet spaceship gravitas for the next few months If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
Estios Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 13:02:00 - [140] Originally by: Imperator Ceasar Originally by: Eskalin Obvious facts . Oh, I get it believe me - I'm a field grade officer in the US Army, my friend - I'm not stupid and there is no need to talk down to me. I am Albert Eistein and I will talk down to whoever I like, Sir. So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.

VonKaplanek III Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 13:30:00 - [141] Originally by: SeIdarine Yaay and Lady Scarlett posting in the same thread? Can we get Phreeze to post here so we can have all 3 of eves most terrible fcs in one thead I guess she told you that you could not come back to DICE. Seriously friend don't harbour grudges, it eats you up inside and can cause stress which leads to many many complications.
Daedhead Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.23 13:32:00 - [142] Originally by: VonKaplanek III Originally by: SeIdarine Yaay and Lady Scarlett posting in the same thread? Can we get Phreeze to post here so we can have all 3 of eves most terrible fcs in one thead I guess she told you that you could not come back to DICE. Seriously friend don't harbour grudges, it eats you up inside and can cause stress which leads to many many complications. Much like being overweight amirite?
Le Cardinal Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 13:56:00 - [143] Originally by: Daedhead Originally by: VonKaplanek III Originally by: SeIdarine Yaay and Lady Scarlett posting in the same thread? Can we get Phreeze to post here so we can have all 3 of eves most terrible fcs in one thead I guess she told you that you could not come back to DICE. Seriously friend don't harbour grudges, it eats you up inside and can cause stress which leads to many many complications. Much like being overweight amirite? More like being irrelevant in 0.0 politics. Amirite?
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 14:06:00 - [144] Edited by: Graalum on 23/02/2010 14:07:32 Originally by: Slay Deathdealer Off-topic - Any person that serves deserves their nation's respect. Period. false.
Ace Frehley Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 14:23:00 - [145] For 2 billions a month I can give you access to a calm system.. Hit me up ingame (I need that aeon now)
Faekurias Caldari Raptus Regalitor Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.02.23 14:36:00 - [146] Edited by: Faekurias on 23/02/2010 14:35:47 Originally by: Slay Deathdealer Off-topic - Any person that serves deserves their nation's respect. Period. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting Really? This too?
Imperator Ceasar Caldari 104th Ranger Mobile Combat Regiment	Posted - 2010.02.23 18:31:00 - [147] Originally by: Edna Sputum It's definitely a "Dear Ceasar GTFO" price. It Alliance may be lots of things, but you can't say they don't know the value of space is. and one system without moons is NOT worth anything close to 15 billion. If it were, Everyone would be fliying around in Titans and faction ships. Inflation on teh Eve market would be skyrocketing. BUt it's not. IT quoting 15 billion to you is their way of saying they don't want you... and if you insist on working with them they'll make you pay for the priviledge. That's why I posted the thread in the first place. LOL
Imperator Ceasar Caldari 104th Ranger Mobile Combat Regiment	Posted - 2010.02.23 18:38:00 - [148] Edited by: Imperator Ceasar on 23/02/2010 18:38:56 It's amazing how easily people will put their hate, rudeness, greed, little dictator mentalities, dishonorable motives and immaturity on public display so easily. Wow - that's all I can say.
Sephiroth CloneIIV Gallente Copia-WarRages Armaments Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.02.23 18:40:00 - [149] To the complainer of alliances holding space this is eve online, not wow, not hello kitty. Mean basterds take over everthing that is concorable or worth taking, to get a peice of the pie either you side with one group or you side with another. I think IT is setting rediclous rates just to show they can, and they probably don't want to realy rent out space. Expecting a person to play/rat 12-24 hours per day lol, thats worse then a 8 hour job. Key - Alliance name: Damage Type it uses (Damage to use against it) Atlas: gay (aids cure) Northern Coalition: COAD spam (multiple front war) IT: ccp exploit (spy)
Imperator Ceasar Caldari 104th Ranger Mobile Combat Regiment	Posted - 2010.02.23 18:45:00 - [150] Originally by: Cadela Fria Originally by: Imperator Ceasar I said it because of how I was talked to.... AND, I think you're advocating only for your poitn of view, not logic nor merits - but that is to be expected. So because people don't agree with you, you get to talk down to them and tell them to respect you..Sorry but I'm not inclined to buy that kind of excuse. Even less from someone who so mightily waves their rank in the US Army around like its a ticket to special treatment. Secondly..what exactly am I advocating? I'm curious at this point, because all I've said is that there is 6000 people in and around delve..that has nothing to do with advocating. Thats a solid fact. Clearly I've responded "in kind" to what was aimed at me, if that is the conclusion you're so willing to adopt about my responses. What are you advocating for? That's easy - maintaining mechanics in Eve that dont undermine your power block and trying to repudiate anyone who suggests another path to making all of Eve more accessible.



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