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Mawnee
Sleepless Knights
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Posted - 2012.07.01 02:30:00 -
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I support this.
This would allow full blown alliance excercises with them, where losing one isnt a concern. It would give people an opportunity to skirmish and try new tactics.
Also it would give alliances thinking of building super caps a chance to try them out and decide if they are worth the effort. |
Missile War
Council Of Internal War The Paganism Alliance
35
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Posted - 2012.07.01 10:50:00 -
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Lol @ Jessica biel, we all know you need titans to actually be able to do anything ;3
But OT, I am worried what seeding supercaps may cause, I am for testing it for a mirror, and see how it impacts sisi, but I think it might cause more trouble than solve, and make them have their own system, otherwise normal caps will become half useless in 6-c |
angeldragon
C.W.O.N. inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.07.01 13:40:00 -
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yes yes yes yes yes yes do it dddddddddoooooo ittttttttt
that cool we got 2 combat system so we love it |
Missile War
Council Of Internal War The Paganism Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.01 14:28:00 -
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angeldragon wrote:yes yes yes yes yes yes do it dddddddddoooooo ittttttttt
that cool we got 2 combat system so we love it
Problem I expect tho, is that if they get seeded, normal caps will become useless...And maybe they should mirror before they do it, so I can use em as well ;p |
Tankn00blicus
sleep Deprivation INC. LLC The Skeleton Crew
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Posted - 2012.07.01 14:57:00 -
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J3ssica Biel wrote:Tankn00blicus wrote:Thomas Hornigolds wrote:yeah those are alt i pay for them i can post agree whit them also you can see am agree whit super on market :) Engrish is not an actual language and therefore your opinion is null and void. And your stupidly ignorant to the fact english isn't his first language, ******* idiot I'm sorry, are you gonna post with all your alts repeating the same thing as well? |
Whisperen
That's Not A Knife Flatline.
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Posted - 2012.07.01 15:51:00 -
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Just put everything on the market, faction mods, officer mods and supers we already have a sub cap only pvp system so it dos not really matter what people play with in 6-C nothings stopping you from going somewhere else to fight with caps that's why they have jumpdrives. People whining about others getting or not getting stuff is going to happen regardless.
Whiners gonna whine.
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dog44566
FISKL GUARDS Nulli Secunda
0
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Posted - 2012.07.01 19:07:00 -
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ccp I AM ALL FOR THIS will give us all a chance too try out ships that take time to get in game and everyone would love too fly. |
Socomar
Quantum Corp Wormhole Kaleidoscope Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.01 22:39:00 -
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well this is a no brainer... 90% say yes. the yes have it hands down. |
JetCord
People of Random Nature
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Posted - 2012.07.01 23:14:00 -
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will they be able to dock in the system or still need POS to park them?
one question though will it be able to be insured? as only dockable ships are able to be insured for obvious reason |
Thomas Hornigolds
CORPORATION UNKNOWN Quebec United Legions
0
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Posted - 2012.07.02 03:14:00 -
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Tankn00blicus wrote:J3ssica Biel wrote:Tankn00blicus wrote:Thomas Hornigolds wrote:yeah those are alt i pay for them i can post agree whit them also you can see am agree whit super on market :) Engrish is not an actual language and therefore your opinion is null and void. And your stupidly ignorant to the fact english isn't his first language, ******* idiot I'm sorry, are you gonna post with all your alts repeating the same thing as well?
from the start post agree whit my alt was a troll and english is not my first language so maybe it can be bad :P |
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WOLTH
Marihuana Peace
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Posted - 2012.07.02 18:13:00 -
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CCP i am pro with capital seeding,but maybe will be clever to make this like a " gift to reedem" ,1 for every tipe of SC and titan for all active EVE clients
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.02 21:10:00 -
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Hi! Thank you all for your posts and I can confirm you: It would have not been necessary to use alts in this thread - as I did not count the posts. I was mostly interested in the arguments and I have not found any important new arguments.
The decision: Super capitals are now seeded for a trial run in 6-CZ49 on Singularity. We will watch the use of the super capitals and will decide later if we'll continue to seed them or if we stop with the next full mirror. Please only buy single ships (I will watch my wallet)!
Regular test server rules apply - I will have a look around on Singularity in the next days and use the ban-hammer if really needed. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock Writing bug reports | Mass tests
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Daniel Jackson
Planet Watchers
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Posted - 2012.07.03 00:38:00 -
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im all for it T'amber for CSM7 - Ship and Client Customisation https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65862 |
John Stargate
Eternal Phoenix Rises Dark Phoenix Rising.
0
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Posted - 2012.07.03 00:56:00 -
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i love the fact you seeded supers and titens but i have to wait like 80 days to fly a titen... so whens the next mass test :P |
Yagutsa
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.07.03 01:58:00 -
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John Stargate wrote:i love the fact you seeded supers and titens but i have to wait like 80 days to fly a titen... so whens the next mass test :P Use the 80 days to learn the basic concept of english |
John Stargate
Eternal Phoenix Rises Dark Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:16:00 -
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Yagutsa wrote:John Stargate wrote:i love the fact you seeded supers and titens but i have to wait like 80 days to fly a titen... so whens the next mass test :P Use the 80 days to learn the basic concept of english
Dude ... i dont care :3 |
Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
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Posted - 2012.07.04 03:44:00 -
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I think the option to buy a Super cap should a bonus to those who participate in the Mass test. as a reward for taking part just an idea The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |
Aldeb Haraz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:10:00 -
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As a super pilot on TQ, I dont feel that this addition adds anything from a "testing" point of view. The people with real supercapitals log on the test server enough to point out any glaring defects that a patch may have messed up.
As it stands right now, we have a similar situation with seeding faction modules. Everyone and their mother is buying (badly skilled) supercapitals and flying around 6-C, with almost no subcapitals or even normal capitals added in. It creates an artificial testing environment, one where it is pretty impossible to test anything OTHER than a super.
This is a trend that has emerged over the past few months with SiSi, starting with the abolition of the segregated combat arenas. Good luck testing for instance frigate balancing changes on SiSi in an environment where everyone is fitting meta 14 modules and you get a 10 man supercarrier gang warped in on you at any time. Changes like these essentially relegate the usefulness of the test server from a player's perspective to playing with obscenely expensively fit ships for half an hour then leaving once the fun factor wears off (Supercap ganks with 10v1 and no support isnt exactly thrilling).
I'm still a fan of keeping the accelerated build speed that was already in place on SiSi, but to me seeding supercaps is just a way to ensure that no testing actually happens |
Eyriemhale
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.05 08:41:00 -
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Aldeb Haraz wrote:As a super pilot on TQ, I dont feel that this addition adds anything from a "testing" point of view. The people with real supercapitals log on the test server enough to point out any glaring defects that a patch may have messed up.
As it stands right now, we have a similar situation with seeding faction modules. Everyone and their mother is buying (badly skilled) supercapitals and flying around 6-C, with almost no subcapitals or even normal capitals added in. It creates an artificial testing environment, one where it is pretty impossible to test anything OTHER than a super.
This is a trend that has emerged over the past few months with SiSi, starting with the abolition of the segregated combat arenas. Good luck testing for instance frigate balancing changes on SiSi in an environment where everyone is fitting meta 14 modules and you get a 10 man supercarrier gang warped in on you at any time. Changes like these essentially relegate the usefulness of the test server from a player's perspective to playing with obscenely expensively fit ships for half an hour then leaving once the fun factor wears off (Supercap ganks with 10v1 and no support isnt exactly thrilling).
I'm still a fan of keeping the accelerated build speed that was already in place on SiSi, but to me seeding supercaps is just a way to ensure that no testing actually happens
I believe thats why there is a second system for Subcap fighting, thats if im not mistaken lol . If someone could confirm this, it would be great, and also clarify if normal caps are seeded in the 2nd system would be good |
Aldeb Haraz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.05 19:10:00 -
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The last time I visited the subcap system, there were precisely 2 other people there.
One was docked and presumably afk, the other one was sitting in a meta 13 fit dual-booster vargur that obviously cant be killed by any solo subcap. Please tell me what was being accomplished there. |
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Eyriemhale
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.06 00:20:00 -
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I am sure there are others that share your distaste and should learn that there is a 2nd system and use it, although i think Supers should have been seeded in a different system, but we have to deal with what we get :) |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.06 00:21:00 -
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+1 all for this and I would like to also see an SP stipend for toonns - so that we might be able to test things we currently don't have skill points for... it doesn't make sense to me to advertise to people for mass testing and then not post in a mean for people to test this due to TQ SP levels... it is a test server and CCP would have alot more testers IF people could temp up the points between mirrors.
I would like to see with this though a return to Cap, BS, Cruiser, Frigate CAs... to limit the effect of people just mowing down the lot on any given day and rules that bind people to not pull up and DD the crap out of say a frigate testing area. it's all about the Frame Rate... |
Anthony Leo
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:33:00 -
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So I log on to the Sisi today hoping to try out a Wyvern but of all the supers that have been seeded, the Wyvern is the only one that cannot be found on the market so either it wasn't seeded at all or someone bought tall of them. Can we get them reseeded please. |
Alxea
Hydro Chronic
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Posted - 2012.07.07 06:16:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Hi!
We are considering to seed super capitals (both super carriers and titans) on the markets on Singularity. We have not really decided on it, but it seems like the advantages will outweigh the disadvantages. Some from the QA team are still quite skeptical about it, but we are ready to give it a try.
It is clear, that some players will love and some others will hate it - but we don't know all the reasons for it and we have no idea how many are on which side. Please reply to this post if you have any opinion on it! Please also note it, if you think that any other changes need to be made in combination with this. Please stay civil in this thread and refrain from any personal attacks. I plan to keep this thread active for 2-3 days and then post a short summary (and maybe post a follow-up thread). Assuming that you are all for seeding super capitals then I'll put super capitals onto the market of 6-CZ49 and reevaluate the whole thing with the next mirror.
Update: Super capitals are now seeded in 6-CZ49 This was a good idea. I like it. |
Lord Drokoth
DARKNESS RISING.
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Posted - 2012.07.08 22:46:00 -
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trying out regular caps has just become pointless.. Super blobs are everywhere... would be nice to have the old style FFAs if supers are gonna remain seeded.
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Darth Behelzebhu
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:52:00 -
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It's been a few days already with supers seeded, so some feedback:
+'s points: - Haven't noticied any problem with this, other caps are still being used (dreads,carriers) - Also still people in regular ships flying around, as supers have become pointless to try to attack subs - Haven't been cluster problems, even the CA's don't seem as full of drones as may have been expected - Also PVH has seen a little more activity now with people trying to be away from supers, still good - Another worry was that SISI may become over-populated, haven't yet happened
- 's points: - If supers get seeded, on new mirrors, still have to be sure sov, building, etc. works (someone may still want to do this) - SUpers stacks, people love to kill the stacks (even against the rules), my solution to this would be DON'T seed supers for 100 isk, keep them in the billions, even a bit higher that what obtained from insurance when popped, to avoid massive stacks and even just undock-loss-undoc k-loss in supers, making isk in sisi is easy, but with supers close to their actual TQ cost, would force people to not only fly 100 supers in 1 day - Drone clusters still can become a problem, why not include a sisi.unique script where drones, as wrecks, vanish after couple hours, can improve lag and other issues
--Love SISI!
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Gudrun Ellecon
Ghost Industries Inc
8
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Posted - 2012.07.09 16:15:00 -
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I agree with the above poster. Seed them with the higher prices to keep people from abusing them/the market. I bought mine for a billion isk, which didn't take long to make selling to random buy orders in Lonetrek. Good balance for availability. |
Melissasama
B0rthole Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2012.07.09 19:08:00 -
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For those of you who say "What's the point?" I can tell you at least one thing.
As a capital pilot of a few years with experience in moving my ships, I can see very clearly how much different Titan is from other ships including dreads.
The range is obviously much shorter but it really hits home to see HOW short. It's not something I can move around without resubbing my cyno alt account...something I hope to not do to save money.
It also give the experience of being in a Titan/Super. I can see what it's like to never leave. The requirement to stay in it 100% of the time is somewhat relaxed, but it gives me a good idea to see how much I'd HAVE to stay in it and how much I need another carrier to refit/give capacitor if moving through hostile areas.
I also know how much fits into a super and what I can take/use in terms of fuel/SMA/stront. It's nice before a 100B investment to see what I might be getting into.
And being only seeded in 6-C is interesting too. Syndicate isn't terribly hard to move out of, but it's a bit of a pain when you need solitude mids. Most aptly named region ever. I could certainly see supers being seeded elsewhere and maybe cynojamming 6C. But I think it will be ok. Supers have trouble hitting subs and doing damage, and if someone is being a pain with webs/TP usually you can kill off that ship. |
BEPOHNKA
Legions Force
1
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Posted - 2012.07.13 03:10:00 -
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Time we make two combat zones, next to other, one for supers and one for sub capitals. non supers. |
the teddybear
Vendetta Rising Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
2
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Posted - 2012.07.13 09:59:00 -
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You seeded supers, now you see the havoc that has been brought upon us. Super capitals have been one of those very touchy subjects that people begged for and was quite fine left alone. I am speaking as someone who has spent many hours self destructing the monstrosities that have been forced into existence, Aeons fitted with T1 meta armor repairers, T1 rigs, failed attempts at an pantheon aeon, or things like my pet that are dual tanked embarrassments that would otherwise be removed immediately from existence if they were brought to the main server. CCP I beg of you, do not seed supers next mirror, it creates problems that are otherwise impossible to avoid without moving to a new system and not deal with the occasional capital, rather than the super carrier or titan blobs that exist to massively now. I do not wish that the only escape from supers be that I cannot use a revelation or archon, I want to use those, but in the current environment my choices are Battleship and lower, or know that when my archon exits warp it will succumb to 5 Doomsdays from scrub pilots who wouldn't know the first thing as to how to properly operate the weapons they possess aside from "lock target, fire doomsday and wait." Super Capitals should be as "special" on singularity as they are on Trainquility My post anger you? too bad, suck it up and move along. |
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