One.

Tippia never claimed you could fit 3 Hulks in there.

As it happens, the barges fit perfectly in the cruiser bracket

So it's not a battlecruiser, but rather one size down GÇö something along the lines of a cruiser.

Yes, she did:

First you say Drake is battlecruiser and then you claim it's cruiser.

So please quote the bit where I said that you could fit 3 Hulks in an Orca.

You claim it's cruiser sized. Let's use Arbitrator in this example because it's well known T1 cruiser hull.

Orca's SMB: 400k m3
Arbitrator: 120k m3
3 * 120k = 360k m3

400k m3 > 360k m3

You claim it's cruiser sized.

As it happens, the Arbitrator's Sig Radius is 282. I believe that that is, according to you, a Moon or a Capital ship.

Now, could you please quote the bit where I said that you could fit 3 Hulks in an Orca?

I don't have to

I can put three cruiser sized hulls into SMB. Why should Hulk be any different?

Try again, troll.

Because it has a different volume, much like how many of the other ships in the cruiser bracket have differing volumes.

It's way bigger than cruiser hulls.

It doesn't have 100k EHP buffer.

It has worse align time than plated Abaddon.

Neither do normal cruisers (unless you do to them what you do to the Hulk to effectively give it 100k+ EHP).

It still fits well inside the cruiser bracket, both in terms of how it takes and how it tanks damage, and your litany of goal-post fallacies doesn't change this fact. Mechanics-wise, it's a cruiser when it comes to survival, which is the topic at hand.

Hulk is tech 2 ship. It has tech 2 resists. You should compare it to tech 2 cruisers.

Devoter for example can easily reach 100k with just T1/T2 modules.



Yeah, tanks like a cruiser? Two ships can destroy it before Concord spawns.

A HIC. You mean the Ship Class that does nothing other than Tank?

Hulk is tech 2 ship. It has tech 2 resists. You should compare it to tech 2 cruisers.

Yeah, tanks like a cruiser?

Two ships can destroy it before Concord spawns.

Is there a tech 2 mining cruiser?

Is there a tech 2 mining cruiser?

No. You can stop lying since you already know full well that this isn't true. Regardless, the same holds true for the other cruisers so the Hulk still tanks like a cruiser.

Do you really think that Hulk could survive?

- Hulk with 38,7k EHP
- 2x T2 fitted Talos
- No logis

Do you really think that Hulk could survive?

Yes, since you can easily keep it from being destroyed if you want to. And anyway, as mentioned, this doesn't mean it tanks worse than your average cruiser.

Do this:

- Undock
- Go to hisec
- Warp to all belts in 5 different systems
- Answer this question: how many logis you see?

And same goes for Port.

Do this:

No. The simple fact remains: you cannot kill a properly tanked Hulk with two ships before CONCORD arrives. Your decision to not properly tank the Hulk doesn't mean it can't be done GÇö it means your scenario gets disqualified on the grounds of colluding with the enemy.

Again, if you're going to make such a stupid claim, do it properly: say that you need zero ships to destroy a Hulk before CONCORD arrives.

Hulk fit you posted earlier has 38,7k EHP
Amount of damage two Taloses can put out within 20 seconds (according to your suspicious research): 72880

38700 < 72880

Try again.

Hulk fit you posted earlier has 38,7k EHP

Amount Repped during that time ~89k EHP.

Warp 1 or 2 Nagas @ 200km.
= Dead Scimi.

= CONCORD arrives = no Hulk kill.

(We're going to overlook for a moment that, no, the Scimi GÇö or more accurately, the Basilisk GÇö does not die if you do that.)

(We're going to overlook for a moment that, no, the Scimi GÇö or more accurately, the Basilisk GÇö does not die if you do that.)

Yeah, 467 dps at 240 km isn't enough.