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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:As luck would have it, there are quite a few organised logi pilots (they pretty much have to be GÇö it comes with the territory).
Not in hisec. Haven't seen any. Where are all the ads?
Rens says: 49,4 million. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8320
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:33:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Not in hisec. Haven't seen any. Get a proper corp.
Quote:Rens says: 49,4 million. Excellent money-making opportunity then. Hop to it. (Never mind that, if you look at the page, it's quite clear that you've misplaced your comma).
GǪand anyway, it doesn't save you any of the fitting space you need.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Excellent money-making opportunity then. Hop to it. (Never mind that, if you look at the page, it's quite clear that you've misplaced your comma).
You should check it again. Rens VI - Moon 8 - Brutor Tribe Treasury (0.8) 49,439,999.22 1 |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:36:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tippia wrote:As luck would have it, there are quite a few organised logi pilots (they pretty much have to be GÇö it comes with the territory). Not in hisec. Haven't seen any. Where are all the ads? Rens says: 49,4 million.
Does it get tiring getting proved wrong so consistently?
The link is to Jita prices. Jita is the standard for determining prices, and always has been.
That you found someone, somewhere selling one for 50m and claiming that that's the accepted price for it means I can claim that Catalysts cost 5b if someone, somewhere is selling one for that price. -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:37:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tippia wrote:Excellent money-making opportunity then. Hop to it. (Never mind that, if you look at the page, it's quite clear that you've misplaced your comma). You should check it again. Rens VI - Moon 8 - Brutor Tribe Treasury (0.8) 49,439,999.22 1
The Forge Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant (0.9)3,499,999.97152012-09-2907-01 22:43:56
EDIT: AAND You're an idiot.
Heimatar Rens VI - Moon 8 - Brutor Tribe Treasury (0.8)4,949,990.0022012-09-3007-02 00:00:22
You seriously looked for the highest sell price in EvE. Holee... Heimatar Rens VI - Moon 8 - Brutor Tribe Treasury (0.8)49,439,999.2212012-08-2907-02 00:00:22 -RubyPorto
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8320
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:40:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:You should check it again. Rens VI - Moon 8 - Brutor Tribe Treasury (0.8) 49,439,999.22 1 You should check it again. Rens VI - Moon 8 - Brutor Tribe Treasury (0.8)-á-á-á-á-á4,949,990.00-á-á-á-á-á2
GǪnot that it matters, since it still doesn't save you any of the fitting space you need, so it's a fine combination of being both incorrect as hell and completely irrelevant. Have you considered a job in the fishing industry? You should be able to provide sustenance for a small to medium-sized country with all those herrings. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:40:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Jita is the standard for determining prices
Not for long. That's started to change already. |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:42:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Jita is the standard for determining prices Not for long. That's started to change already.
Even if that's true, the Highest Sell price in EvE (an order that you can't actually buy from, as your purchase will be filled by a cheaper order at the high price) is clearly not the price setting standard. -RubyPorto
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:48:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:You seriously looked for the highest sell price in EvE. Holee...[:roll
Not my problem if you don't know how market works.
And again: where are those logi pilots who can sit on belt doing nothing for hours and are happy when they get paid by stupid miners.
Also: "Ooops! Forgot to activate shield transporters. Sorry. I hope that wasn't expensive. " |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:50:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:You seriously looked for the highest sell price in EvE. Holee...[:roll Not my problem if you don't know how market works. And again: where are those logi pilots who can sit on belt doing nothing for hours and are happy when they get paid by stupid miners.
That is an order that you can't buy from unless you buy every single cheaper item.
You said something's impossible. That was a lie.
Just because you choose not to protect your mining fleets doesn't mean it's impossible to do so. -RubyPorto
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:52:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Just because you choose not to protect your mining fleets doesn't mean it's impossible to do so.
But if that logi pilot is alt of ganker? How can I know that? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8321
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:53:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Not my problem if you don't know how market works. The market works like this: you buy from the cheapest sell order (or from the highest buy order, if it's yours). An item's value is what it sells for GÇö if the same item is available for less, then it does not sell for more.
Quote:And again: where are those logi pilots who can sit on belt doing nothing for hours and are happy when they get paid by stupid miners. In the organised corps that consider it a worth-while use of their time. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Geezelbub
Barely Illegal
5
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:57:00 -
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Wow, people arguing over commas. 
Mining bores me to tears, BUT with Pyerite skyrocketing am seriously considering mining plag in a .8 sec system.
3 man fleet
Vulture and pilot with max relevant shield leadership skills Orca seriously tanked and pilot with max mining link skills Hulk tanked for passive shield resists including rigs and pilot with excellent shield skills(don't need cargo space gonna be right next to Orca)
I doubt anybody will really wanna go to the expense to kill that hulk. They sure won't get any loot. |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:58:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Just because you choose not to protect your mining fleets doesn't mean it's impossible to do so. But if that logi pilot is alt of ganker? How can I know that?
Making friends or using your own alt. Doesn't take away from the fact (as you seem to be admitting) that it's possible. -RubyPorto
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:00:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Making friends or using your own alt.
Corpmates only log in to change skill queue and my only RR skilled character is my Guardian/Hulk pilot. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8321
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:01:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Corpmates only log in to change skill queue and my only RR skilled character is my Guardian/Hulk pilot. So get a better corp and/or skill another character for Basilisk.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:02:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Making friends or using your own alt. Corpmates only log in to change skill queue and my only RR skilled character is my Guardian/Hulk pilot.
That's your problem. If tanking your hulk isn't viable in your special snowflake situation, so many other options are available (and it only takes a few weeks at most to train a serviceable RR pilot). -RubyPorto
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:05:00 -
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Tippia wrote:or skill another character for Basilisk.
One of them is pretty much locked to science skills for a very long time. And my third character hates Caldari ships and people. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8321
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:07:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:One of them is pretty much locked to science skills for a very long time. And my third character hates Caldari ships and people. Still your problem. The fact remains: it can be done and your choosing not to do it for whatever reason doesn't make it impossible.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:11:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tippia wrote:or skill another character for Basilisk. One of them is pretty much locked to science skills for a very long time. And my third character hates Caldari ships and people.
Use a Dominix. Or an Abaddon, or whatever. -RubyPorto
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:12:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Still your problem. The fact remains: it can be done and your choosing not to do it for whatever reason doesn't make it impossible.
So, you're suggesting that I should remap one of my characters from int/mem to per/will just because of this? |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:13:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tippia wrote:Still your problem. The fact remains: it can be done and your choosing not to do it for whatever reason doesn't make it impossible. So, you're suggesting that I should remap one of my characters from int/mem to per/will just becaus of this?
That's your choice. It is also possible to train off map. -RubyPorto
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8321
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:15:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:So, you're suggesting that I should remap one of my characters from int/mem to per/will just because of this? I'm suggesting that the flaws you insist exist in the Hulk are results of your own decisions. The problem is you, not the ship.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:I'm suggesting that the flaws you insist exist in the Hulk are results of your own decisions. The problem is you, not the ship.
There must be something wrong in my Hulk because gankers usually leave belt after scanning(?) and I don't see them for very long time. If same ganker warps later to belt I'm on they warp away fast if I'm the only one on that belt. |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:22:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tippia wrote:I'm suggesting that the flaws you insist exist in the Hulk are results of your own decisions. The problem is you, not the ship. There must be something wrong in my Hulk because gankers usually leave belt after scanning(?) and I don't see them for very long time. If they warp later to belt I'm on they warp away fast if I'm the only one on that belt.
Hey look, tanking your Hulk works.
Just like we've been telling you for weeks.
Christ -RubyPorto
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8321
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:25:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:There must be something wrong in my Hulk because gankers usually leave belt after scanning(?) and I don't see them for very long time. If same ganker warps later to belt I'm on they warp away fast if I'm the only one on that belt. Then I'm suggesting that you are a liar and that the flaws you insist exists in the Hulk don't insist at all and that you know this full well from your own experience, so you can stop it with the blatant idiocy and wilful ignorance.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:33:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Then I'm suggesting that you are a liar and that the flaws you insist exists in the Hulk don't insist at all and that you know this full well from your own experience, so you can stop it with the blatant idiocy and wilful ignorance.
No, I'm just a stupid miner who is a bit paranoid and got obsessed with tanking exhumers after losing one mining barge in w-space. |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
115
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:53:00 -
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1. ship value <= EHP/10,000*100,000,00 so assuming tornado + fittings is 100mil, and I have 40,0000 ehp I wouldn't dare fit more than 400mil worth of stuff on said ship. maybe there should be a *2 in there somewhere to assume they plan on making a decent profit but 1. paranoia and 2. I'm used to that number being about 300,000,000 due to the whole insurance thingy.
2. hugely variable number depending on what I do. a pretty big chunk of income theoretically comes from LP, and the LP market is an isk sink. so I don't have a problem with players earning say 100m/hour mostly buying and selling stuff from/to other players. but at the same time if income is too low most players won't bother |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
205
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Posted - 2012.07.02 02:34:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tippia wrote:Then I'm suggesting that you are a liar and that the flaws you insist exists in the Hulk don't insist at all and that you know this full well from your own experience, so you can stop it with the blatant idiocy and wilful ignorance.
No, I'm just a stupid miner who is a bit paranoid and got obsessed with tanking exhumers after losing one mining barge in w-space.
If that were true, you wouldn't continually and willfully bring up assertions that have been previously shown to be false. -RubyPorto
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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
112
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Posted - 2012.07.02 02:47:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote: Anyway, there should not be a salary cap to answer your question, because there is a war dec system in place. You can die anywhere, anytime, so all the risk/reward stuff is a load of horse ****. When presented with that arguement, the most common reply is "Yeah, but you can minimize the risk so much that its almost zero". So thats really my answer, the guy who can minimize his rish the most is the one that deserves to make the most, because he is smarter than his predator.
Well people acquire isk in two ways: - Get them from NPC's. - Get them from other players.
I believe one of these should remain capped: "get them from NPC's". Income from NPC's is what scales with sec status and also includes all isk faucets. A proper balance of isk faucets should have people who remain in highsec say: "look, I KNOW rewards are clearly better outside of highsec but I still remain in highsec because the commitment in time is something I cannot work around."
When your activities involves getting isk from other players then sec status won't matter, nor should it be artificially capped. |
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