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Manfred Doomhammer
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Posted - 2004.11.29 05:35:00 -
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simplest sollution would be to make all lab slot operations to use some resource, like data sheets
it will not be too expensive for noobs, still it will get a pest for lab slot hoggers... also, make it so you have to load a small stack at max manually into the slots, so people dont just place millions of sheets in the hangar
if every lab slot needs attention every 5 runs, im sure we will see a lot free up again. ----
Manfred Doomhammer Fleet Admiral CEO ShadowTec Inc.
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Manfred Doomhammer
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Posted - 2004.11.29 05:35:00 -
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simplest sollution would be to make all lab slot operations to use some resource, like data sheets
it will not be too expensive for noobs, still it will get a pest for lab slot hoggers... also, make it so you have to load a small stack at max manually into the slots, so people dont just place millions of sheets in the hangar
if every lab slot needs attention every 5 runs, im sure we will see a lot free up again. ----
Manfred Doomhammer Fleet Admiral CEO ShadowTec Inc.
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.11.29 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Keri Hulme
Quote: More disappointing is the fact that i cannot explore a significant proportion of the game content.
I see this appearing more and more on different boards. Would you please care to explain what that significant proportion of game content would be?
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as i said, the purpose of my second account is to research BPOs and manufacture stuff.
I have 1 BPO to start off with, currently at ME 0.
I can't make any money manufacturing at this ME, so i need to research it in order to start building.
I cant do either, as there are no fuucking lab slots. ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~
yeah but no but yeah but no but |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.11.29 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Keri Hulme
Quote: More disappointing is the fact that i cannot explore a significant proportion of the game content.
I see this appearing more and more on different boards. Would you please care to explain what that significant proportion of game content would be?
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as i said, the purpose of my second account is to research BPOs and manufacture stuff.
I have 1 BPO to start off with, currently at ME 0.
I can't make any money manufacturing at this ME, so i need to research it in order to start building.
I cant do either, as there are no fuucking lab slots. ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~
yeah but no but yeah but no but |

HalfLoaf
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Posted - 2004.11.29 09:09:00 -
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Meow , i would have lent you my lab slots , but due to the oversightedness to the system i dont have any slots anymore. I mean , who designs a system where you have to pay every four days or so without the ability to pay in advance for the times when RL makes you go on holiday for 7 or more days leaving you without slots that are so scarce as it is . ---
Loaf Is For Living !! Loaf It To The Full
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HalfLoaf
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Posted - 2004.11.29 09:09:00 -
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Meow , i would have lent you my lab slots , but due to the oversightedness to the system i dont have any slots anymore. I mean , who designs a system where you have to pay every four days or so without the ability to pay in advance for the times when RL makes you go on holiday for 7 or more days leaving you without slots that are so scarce as it is . ---
Loaf Is For Living !! Loaf It To The Full
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Malv
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Posted - 2004.11.29 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cal Drago
Originally by: Malv I agree. There is little incentive for new players to play. I started up a new corp just to figure out that all the offices with factories are in outskirts where there is too much danger for a corp filled with new players.
Same goes with the lab slots. New players really get shafted as they have to spend considerable hours traveling just to find one. What the hell CCP? Are you trying to kill your own game off?
Gee, Malv. You just don't seem to be happy with anything. First your corp and now EVE. Better just quit playing and spare us your tears. 
Awwww, Drago. We'll be invading you space soon enough enough. Look for the .06.
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Malv
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Posted - 2004.11.29 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cal Drago
Originally by: Malv I agree. There is little incentive for new players to play. I started up a new corp just to figure out that all the offices with factories are in outskirts where there is too much danger for a corp filled with new players.
Same goes with the lab slots. New players really get shafted as they have to spend considerable hours traveling just to find one. What the hell CCP? Are you trying to kill your own game off?
Gee, Malv. You just don't seem to be happy with anything. First your corp and now EVE. Better just quit playing and spare us your tears. 
Awwww, Drago. We'll be invading you space soon enough enough. Look for the .06.
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fugazii
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Posted - 2004.11.29 09:57:00 -
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i found 2 lab slots within a half hour, later on that day i searched for about 5 hrs lookin for another,..in vain. its jst luck, cant ask ccp to jst give u one cuz u couldnt find one. would u ask ccp fora imperial apoc cuz u spammed trade channel fora few hrs w/no luck?
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fugazii
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Posted - 2004.11.29 09:57:00 -
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i found 2 lab slots within a half hour, later on that day i searched for about 5 hrs lookin for another,..in vain. its jst luck, cant ask ccp to jst give u one cuz u couldnt find one. would u ask ccp fora imperial apoc cuz u spammed trade channel fora few hrs w/no luck?
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Astrid Tron
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Posted - 2004.11.29 10:01:00 -
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Usually the problem 'all the slots are taken' arises from 'No, I dont want to go any further than 2 jumps away from the highway'. Out below .5 sec rating and in the fringes you'll find lab slots. It takes a lot of luck to find a lab slot in densely populated areas (though a corpmate of mine found 4 in Molden 2 weeks ago). --------------------------------------------- When you have to kill a man, it takes nothing to be polite |

Astrid Tron
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Posted - 2004.11.29 10:01:00 -
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Usually the problem 'all the slots are taken' arises from 'No, I dont want to go any further than 2 jumps away from the highway'. Out below .5 sec rating and in the fringes you'll find lab slots. It takes a lot of luck to find a lab slot in densely populated areas (though a corpmate of mine found 4 in Molden 2 weeks ago). --------------------------------------------- When you have to kill a man, it takes nothing to be polite |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.11.29 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Astrid Tron Usually the problem 'all the slots are taken' arises from 'No, I dont want to go any further than 2 jumps away from the highway'. Out below .5 sec rating and in the fringes you'll find lab slots. It takes a lot of luck to find a lab slot in densely populated areas (though a corpmate of mine found 4 in Molden 2 weeks ago).
i spent 6 hours, searching 4 regions, from 1.0 to 0.1 systems.
Not a fuucking sausage.
~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~
yeah but no but yeah but no but |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.11.29 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Astrid Tron Usually the problem 'all the slots are taken' arises from 'No, I dont want to go any further than 2 jumps away from the highway'. Out below .5 sec rating and in the fringes you'll find lab slots. It takes a lot of luck to find a lab slot in densely populated areas (though a corpmate of mine found 4 in Molden 2 weeks ago).
i spent 6 hours, searching 4 regions, from 1.0 to 0.1 systems.
Not a fuucking sausage.
~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~
yeah but no but yeah but no but |

Kaskamar
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Posted - 2004.11.29 10:20:00 -
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I see no problem from ccp side..there is an arrow of 30 elements..= 30 lab slot pr station....
refine that array to 60...or what..and we got more lab slots...
I DO NOT BELIVE THAT THE 30 NUMBER IS HARDCODED INTO EVE...
they just DONT want to add more labs slots....
the few people find from time to time is most likely from people on holly day or a "programmed" error what on purpose come from time to time
se my shop site http://eve.frimurer.net |

Kaskamar
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Posted - 2004.11.29 10:20:00 -
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I see no problem from ccp side..there is an arrow of 30 elements..= 30 lab slot pr station....
refine that array to 60...or what..and we got more lab slots...
I DO NOT BELIVE THAT THE 30 NUMBER IS HARDCODED INTO EVE...
they just DONT want to add more labs slots....
the few people find from time to time is most likely from people on holly day or a "programmed" error what on purpose come from time to time
se my shop site http://eve.frimurer.net |

Ekim
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Posted - 2004.11.29 12:05:00 -
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There's a simple fix for this. There's a skill called "Laboratory Operation" - +1 Lab per skill level. This should be enforced. Your character can get 1 lab without this skill, and a total of 6 with this skill at level 5. It doesn't matter where, 6 total labs per character. ____________________________________________
If you think it's broke or don't like the way it works: Submit a Bug Report, Post a Suggestion on the Forums, or quit playing! |

Ekim
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Posted - 2004.11.29 12:05:00 -
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There's a simple fix for this. There's a skill called "Laboratory Operation" - +1 Lab per skill level. This should be enforced. Your character can get 1 lab without this skill, and a total of 6 with this skill at level 5. It doesn't matter where, 6 total labs per character. ____________________________________________
If you think it's broke or don't like the way it works: Submit a Bug Report, Post a Suggestion on the Forums, or quit playing! |

Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2004.11.29 12:18:00 -
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They've already said they're exploring.
- Splitting labs into sizes to add more smaller labs for ammo, frigates etc, overall giving more labs.
- Adding labs to the new Starbase content.
Give them a few weeks to settle Exodus down, then maybe start asking them when they're going to be doing these.
We don't need a new solution every five minutes, we've got one, we just need a little patience and a bit of pressure on CCP to get it done.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2004.11.29 12:18:00 -
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They've already said they're exploring.
- Splitting labs into sizes to add more smaller labs for ammo, frigates etc, overall giving more labs.
- Adding labs to the new Starbase content.
Give them a few weeks to settle Exodus down, then maybe start asking them when they're going to be doing these.
We don't need a new solution every five minutes, we've got one, we just need a little patience and a bit of pressure on CCP to get it done.
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BillMajelo
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Posted - 2004.11.29 12:35:00 -
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I stole them. All of them. I am responsible for holding every lab slot that you think you might get, but miss by three seconds.
Dude, relax. I've found lab slots in relatively decent space, and all I had to do was check every station that has a lab slot that I ever dock at. Find'em, click'em, smile and say yay. I then donate them to the corp I work for, since my ability to manufacture is nonexistant, and I don't mean that in the sense that I have the skills at ALL. Keep looking. I know it's hard, but be prepared to shell out some isk, scour the stations, and go out of your way for them. They're not going to fall in your lap.
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BillMajelo
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Posted - 2004.11.29 12:35:00 -
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I stole them. All of them. I am responsible for holding every lab slot that you think you might get, but miss by three seconds.
Dude, relax. I've found lab slots in relatively decent space, and all I had to do was check every station that has a lab slot that I ever dock at. Find'em, click'em, smile and say yay. I then donate them to the corp I work for, since my ability to manufacture is nonexistant, and I don't mean that in the sense that I have the skills at ALL. Keep looking. I know it's hard, but be prepared to shell out some isk, scour the stations, and go out of your way for them. They're not going to fall in your lap.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.11.29 12:39:00 -
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I'm not even trying anymore, did the labchecking for the first 4 months online. Jumped and danced when I found 2 available at one station. Got 2 more the same day at the same station, slapped in BPO's I had and smiled. After 5 days paid my bills nicely and day after that didn't have any labs anymore due to a wellknown bug. No chance to get them back aswell. Total time I had 4 labs: 6 days Total time spend on finding them: 4 months of checking every station with labs in a system I had to be at. Total gain: Don't even mention it. Total number of BPO's I gave away cause I was ****ed beyond limits: 138
Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying |

Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.11.29 12:39:00 -
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I'm not even trying anymore, did the labchecking for the first 4 months online. Jumped and danced when I found 2 available at one station. Got 2 more the same day at the same station, slapped in BPO's I had and smiled. After 5 days paid my bills nicely and day after that didn't have any labs anymore due to a wellknown bug. No chance to get them back aswell. Total time I had 4 labs: 6 days Total time spend on finding them: 4 months of checking every station with labs in a system I had to be at. Total gain: Don't even mention it. Total number of BPO's I gave away cause I was ****ed beyond limits: 138
Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying |

Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2004.11.29 13:02:00 -
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Been playing for over a year, 24h/day at max, never seen a free lab slot. Been looking for one in 0.0-1.0.
I have come to conclusion that "research" has not been implemented in EVE, and people are just faking that there is "lab slots".
SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR |

Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2004.11.29 13:02:00 -
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Been playing for over a year, 24h/day at max, never seen a free lab slot. Been looking for one in 0.0-1.0.
I have come to conclusion that "research" has not been implemented in EVE, and people are just faking that there is "lab slots".
SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR |

NoXiD
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Posted - 2004.11.29 13:09:00 -
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meowcat - PM/evemail me later tonight - i might have a spare lab slot for you..
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NoXiD
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Posted - 2004.11.29 13:09:00 -
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meowcat - PM/evemail me later tonight - i might have a spare lab slot for you..
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.11.29 13:13:00 -
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I've never had any problems finding labslots ever, sure it's harder lately but why should they be readily available to all?
Convert Stations
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.11.29 13:13:00 -
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I've never had any problems finding labslots ever, sure it's harder lately but why should they be readily available to all?
Convert Stations
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