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CCP Fallout	Posted - 2010.03.20 09:23:00 - [1] CCP Rhayger's announces the alpha test for EVE Gate and gives us an idea of what is going to be tested during this alpha in his newest dev blog. Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us


Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2010.03.20 09:32:00 - [2] Wheehoooo!! Secure 3rd party service

NeoFusion Caldari Freelancer Union Unaffiliated	Posted - 2010.03.20 09:48:00 - [3] Edited by: NeoFusion on 20/03/2010 09:48:32 Sweet! Also, IAC (In After Chribba) there is no longer a 'first' when he's about!
ShadowMaster Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.20 09:48:00 - [4] YAY! Man I can not wait for this.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.03.20 10:10:00 - [5] Man, this guy certainly has a way with words. All I got from the blog is that "something" is coming out with no features and they want people to test it. Logo also needs work. Try exploding spaceships or hot space chicks in the background or something. Not sure how many people are going to get excited over a calendar and broadcast logs. Looking forward to it I guess, or not. Confused over what we are getting but it looks like we are getting something and I guess that is good. Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
Solbright Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2010.03.20 10:31:00 - [6] Here's hoping the bug reporting system gets fixed so I can report bugs. ----- The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up!
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2010.03.20 10:34:00 - [7] What sort of security measures do you have envisaged for EvE Gate, will it be similar to the forum measures? If the EvE Gate website is compromised/hacked, would that also at the same time compromise the EvE players account info?
TRM Sharku Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.20 11:05:00 - [8] So, if I understand this correctly this thing will be in indefinite Beta? I really hope this will mean "we're working on it diligently and it will be done SoonÖ" rather than a "yeah, it's been stable for years, but we keep calling it Beta to avoid having to deal with complaints" cop out, like some internet GiantÖ(Beta) has been doing with their GreatÖ(Beta) products the last few years cough. I'm all in favour of the former, not so much of the latter.
Virtuozzo Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.03.20 11:31:00 - [9] SpacebookÖ (beta) ≡v≡
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.03.20 12:43:00 - [10] Originally by: TRM Sharku So, if I understand this correctly this thing will be in indefinite Beta? Hey, nothing wrong with that, Google has used that approach successfully for years. Contact me for custom [eb] signatures.

Shadow Box	Posted - 2010.03.20 12:59:00 - [11] Will the data transfer from spacebook to the game server be two way? If not, why not hook the alpha up to tranquility? It might help those of us without the technical know-how to get on singularity :)
Kile Kitmoore	Posted - 2010.03.20 13:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: TRM Sharku So, if I understand this correctly this thing will be in indefinite Beta? Hey, nothing wrong with that, Google has used that approach successfully for years. That does pose an interesting question, will EVE Gate development be decoupled from EVE's typical expansion cycles after the initial release? Meaning, new EVE Gate functionality will be released when completed rather then wait for the next EVE expansion. Lastly, will EVE Gate also have daily downtime?

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.20 13:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Shadow Box Will the data transfer from spacebook to the game server be two way? If not, why not hook the alpha up to tranquility? It might help those of us without the technical know-how to get on singularity :) It will be two-way yes, for example mail you send from EVE Gate will show up in game and vice versa.

Jonathan Mcarthur Caldari Ethipi	Posted - 2010.03.20 13:49:00 - [14] Will Eve Gate use Javascript or Flash, or will it all be CSS and basic HTML?
Major Stallion The Dark Horses	Posted - 2010.03.20 13:50:00 - [15] maybe it's me....but what does spacebook have to do with "slapping targets around"?

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.20 14:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Jonathan Mcarthur Will Eve Gate use Javascript or Flash, or will it all be CSS and basic HTML? Simple "web standards" markup with CSS and heavy use of jQuery client-side scripting. We have one Flash marketing banner on front page, nothing else.

Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.20 14:12:00 - [17] Edited by: Ix Forres on 20/03/2010 14:12:26 What will CCP's policy be on automated scrap(remove space, silly filter) ers? Because unless there's some concurrent additional API releases, there's gonna be a _lot_ of automated scraping going on. Not to mention that this would probably herald a move away from API keys back to the old way of giving apps your account username/password. Which would, y'know, do wonders for security. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer EVE Metrics \| accVIEW \| I Tweet
Borgh Brainbasher Path of Now and Forever	Posted - 2010.03.20 14:26:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Jonathan Mcarthur Will Eve Gate use Javascript or Flash, or will it all be CSS and basic HTML? Simple "web standards" markup with CSS and heavy use of jQuery client-side scripting. We have one Flash marketing banner on front page, nothing else. sooooo, this means the IGB player will support flash or some dev is yelling oh crap and facepalming now? --- Warning: You are on the pvp only server.
Tyrodia	Posted - 2010.03.20 14:51:00 - [19] Edited by: Tyrodia on 20/03/2010 14:53:52 Another who can't wait here :D Any plans for moving player blogs into this in any way? edit: I know we have facebook style updates, I mean full length blogs :) -- My EVE Blog!
Lordess Trader	Posted - 2010.03.20 14:57:00 - [20] Originally by: Ix Forres Edited by: Ix Forres on 20/03/2010 14:12:26 What will CCP's policy be on automated scrap(remove space, silly filter) ers? Because unless there's some concurrent additional API releases, there's gonna be a _lot_ of automated scraping going on. Not to mention that this would probably herald a move away from API keys back to the old way of giving apps your account username/password. Which would, y'know, do wonders for security. Have to agree here, CCP knows how active the dev community is, if they dont release api's to access evegate, the dev community will just sc** the data, which we all know is not optimal for the devs or the servers. Originally by:** Borgh Brainbasher sooooo, this means the IGB player will support flash or some dev is yelling oh crap and facepalming now? i wish, but thats not what he said, from what he said, Eve gate will work ingame because theirs no flash except 1 banner, which is an ad, so no real demand to get it working in eve lol, but i hope they enable flash for dominion.

DmitryEKT Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.20 15:10:00 - [21] Confirming we'll break stuff.
Pbs Pumpkin Scissors DarkSide.	Posted - 2010.03.20 15:21:00 - [22] /request castom themes for Eve Gate, like "Spacebook", "Evelook Express" and "WhoTube?".
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2010.03.20 15:48:00 - [23] Quote: we have a lot more features we want to get to work on (>cough< forums >cough<) is it true? will there be delicious forum upgrades? _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep!
Katana Seiko Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.20 15:56:00 - [24] Quote: to log into and look around Does this also mean "Hack around"? I mean, it's "only" SiSi we're talking about, and I prefer much if we do that today, in order to find things to be fixed while it's SiSi - instead of having vulnerabilities when it's Tranquility and it can impact our "real" gaming experience.. --- "Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind." -Terry Pratchett
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2010.03.20 16:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Katana Seiko Does this also mean "Hack around"? I mean, it's "only" SiSi we're talking about, and I prefer much if we do that today, in order to find things to be fixed while it's SiSi - instead of having vulnerabilities when it's Tranquility and it can impact our "real" gaming experience.. That's not such a bad idea if they offer GTC/Plex incentive as a competition. 1 hack + details of how you did it = 1 GTC/Plex. Better get the vulnerabilities plugged off now than deal with fire-fighting afterwards when it goes live, imo.
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Tread Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.20 18:13:00 - [26] What about killboards? Will the beta release (or any subsequent one) feature CCP-driven killboards?
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2010.03.20 19:08:00 - [27] Edited by: Cors on 20/03/2010 19:08:51 Is CCP working on Mobile applications for this setup? mainly Android and iPhone OS's? Or are we left to our mobile browsers?
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.20 19:29:00 - [28] This is friggin' awesome! www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
Jei'son Bladesmith The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club	Posted - 2010.03.20 19:45:00 - [29] Originally by: Pbs /request castom themes for Eve Gate, like "Spacebook", "Evelook Express" and "WhoTube?". /Seconded
Zaboth Garadath Amarr No Limit Productions	Posted - 2010.03.20 20:35:00 - [30] Nice! Will the 'Open Alpha' be open to anyone who applies, or pre-selected accounts? (Please don't do the latter ) Will it work through a proxy server? (Almost certainly, but I just want to make sure) Apart from being able to send/receive eve-mails, is there any other ways you can interact in-game from this? Thanks! _____________________________________________ 'If you really want to make someone hate you, explain to them, logically and politely, why they are wrong' - J. Baylock

Jim Luc Caldari Rule of Five	Posted - 2010.03.20 20:59:00 - [31] How do we sign up for the initial alpha? :)
Bekenel Gallente DOCS RUFF RIDERS F A I L	Posted - 2010.03.20 22:52:00 - [32] Adequate hardware? adequate hardware ?!?!?!?! You don't even have that for fleet fights in the game... come on CCP Prioritize.
Cloudheart Empire Trading Company House of Mercury	Posted - 2010.03.20 23:27:00 - [33] Originally by: CCP Karuck Simple "web standards" markup with CSS and heavy use of jQuery client-side scripting. We have one Flash marketing banner on front page, nothing else. Very pleased to hear this. And I too look forward to the first releases! --- Regular lotteries for all players running at http://evelink.servegame.org/igb/
Garr Anders Minmatar Thukk U	Posted - 2010.03.20 23:43:00 - [34] Originally by: CCP Karuck Simple "web standards" markup with CSS and heavy use of jQuery client-side scripting. We have one Flash marketing banner on front page, nothing else. Flash wont work on the ingame browser. ----- Garr Anders "The only winning move is not to play" is about the best damn advice anyone can get regarding arguing over the internet. - referring to the Movie WarGames 1983

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.21 00:01:00 - [35] Originally by: Zaboth Garadath Nice! Will the 'Open Alpha' be open to anyone who applies, or pre-selected accounts? (Please don't do the latter ) Will it work through a proxy server? (Almost certainly, but I just want to make sure) Apart from being able to send/receive eve-mails, is there any other ways you can interact in-game from this? Thanks! As stated in the devblog, this public alpha is open to anyone on Singularity. I can't see why it should have problems with proxy servers, it's just a webpage :) And yes there is more in game functionality, like the new contacts/standings system.


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.21 00:04:00 - [36] Edited by: CCP Karuck on 21/03/2010 00:03:57 Originally by: Ix Forres Edited by: Ix Forres on 20/03/2010 14:12:26 What will CCP's policy be on automated scrap(remove space, silly filter) ers? Because unless there's some concurrent additional API releases, there's gonna be a _lot_ of automated scraping going on. Not to mention that this would probably herald a move away from API keys back to the old way of giving apps your account username/password. Which would, y'know, do wonders for security. We are definitely aware of this and as far as I know the plan is to offer functionality on the API as well as EVE Gate, for exactly the reasons you state.


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.21 00:07:00 - [37] Originally by: Abdiel Kavash What about killboards? Will the beta release (or any subsequent one) feature CCP-driven killboards? Sorry but the first release (beta) won't have that, and I don't know where that is in the priority list.

Phantom Slave Universal Pest Exterminators	Posted - 2010.03.21 02:40:00 - [38] Originally by: CCP Karuck Sorry but the first release (beta) won't have that, and I don't know where that is in the priority list. I'd love to see a CCP hosted Killboard system. Corp/Alliance hosted killboards could and most likely would still be used so they can see their own specific corp/alliance's efficiency.

CCP Rhayger	Posted - 2010.03.21 06:00:00 - [39] Originally by: Tyrodia Edited by: Tyrodia on 20/03/2010 14:53:52 Another who can't wait here :D Any plans for moving player blogs into this in any way? edit: I know we have facebook style updates, I mean full length blogs :) There is a rather lengthy list of features (such as that, killboards, mobile device support, and many others) on the to do list. Once we get EVE Gate launched and in solid shape we will start working away at them in priority order based on what the producers feel the players will benefit from the most. As CCP Karuck mentioned that priority order isn't determined yet as we are focused right now on the initial delivery. The good news is we have put in place a full time team dedicated to EVE Gate development so this isn't a deliver it and walk away scenario, we will be working on this continually. We are being careful to put in a very robust base because we are going to be building on top of it literally for years. There's lots of good stuff to come, and everyone's feedback will be really helpful in making it happen. (...and yeah I can be rather verbose, but I'd like to give you as much clear information as I possibly can and I'm not as good an artist as CCP Nimbus)

something somethingdark	Posted - 2010.03.21 06:20:00 - [40] my main questions are Did you use the same UI style as is ingame ? How will the login be handled ? (security measures) Are you realy realy sure you got a dedicated team for spacebook and realy wont walk away from it in a month ?

UVPhoenix2 Gallente Brotherhood of Heart and Steel Iron Heart Brotherhood	Posted - 2010.03.21 10:58:00 - [41] CCP Rhayger, I like the new hair. Very Gallente. I know how you feel. Material of this nature affect us all in different ways. What you need to do is learn from this. And this is just my sig.
Ciryath Al'Darion FinFleet IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.21 11:30:00 - [42] Originally by: CCP Karuck Edited by: CCP Karuck on 21/03/2010 00:03:57 Originally by: Ix Forres Edited by: Ix Forres on 20/03/2010 14:12:26 What will CCP's policy be on automated scrap(remove space, silly filter) ers? Because unless there's some concurrent additional API releases, there's gonna be a _lot_ of automated scraping going on. Not to mention that this would probably herald a move away from API keys back to the old way of giving apps your account username/password. Which would, y'know, do wonders for security. We are definitely aware of this and as far as I know the plan is to offer functionality on the API as well as EVE Gate, for exactly the reasons you state. I hope you have addressed the fact that more access levels are needed than division between "full" and "limited" api key. I'd like to see possibility of creating multiple api keys with varying levels of access. Maybe even hand picking which api functions are available to the specific key. At a bare minimum, have separate write (send mail, modify market, write to chat) and read keys.
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.21 16:08:00 - [43] Sooo..... Time to fire up the scrapers, SQL injection tools and other assorted goodies? Or is that going to net me a ban, even if it's Sisi?
Mono Loco	Posted - 2010.03.21 22:56:00 - [44] Edited by: Mono Loco on 21/03/2010 22:56:30 Beta wich gets features added like We-didnt-change-a-thing-since-launch-Evelopedia-Beta?
SghnDubh BattleClinic	Posted - 2010.03.21 23:17:00 - [45] Killboards, huh? Timecodes: http://shop.BattleClinic.com
Hack Harrison Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:19:00 - [46] Originally by: CCP Rhayger ...for all the pounding you folks will put on it once you are all browsing EVE Gate routinely from work *(when your boss isn't looking).* Really not an issue - he will be too busy using it himself...
Elrianmk2 Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.22 11:49:00 - [47] Anything in particular we should be looking to test? Or is this just a ***** out everything we can see, much like we are doing with PI? If it wasnt for bad luck, i wouldnt have any luck at all
Dregek Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.03.22 18:25:00 - [48] Edited by: Dregek on 22/03/2010 18:25:37 Originally by: Elrianmk2 Anything in particular we should be looking to test? Or is this just a ***** out everything we can see, much like we are doing with PI? try and break it seriously alpha testing is for as ccp have said stress test the hardware so get as many people online on it doing as much as possible, hit all the nooks and crannies of the web page, if it craps out you did a good job it will generate logs for ccp to gorge on and find bugs and streamline
Ambein Flambein 352 Industries THE-FEDERATION	Posted - 2010.03.22 23:27:00 - [49] Originally by: Borgh Brainbasher Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Jonathan Mcarthur Will Eve Gate use Javascript or Flash, or will it all be CSS and basic HTML? Simple "web standards" markup with CSS and heavy use of jQuery client-side scripting. We have one Flash marketing banner on front page, nothing else. sooooo, this means the IGB player will support flash or some dev is yelling oh crap and facepalming now? accessing eve gate via the igb is redundant, as you already have access to the info that eve gate will provide ingame ______________________________________________ Sig is Broken
Darth Skorpius Deep Stage THE-FEDERATION	Posted - 2010.03.22 23:33:00 - [50] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Quote: we have a lot more features we want to get to work on (>cough< forums >cough<) is it true? will there be delicious forum upgrades? i really hope so as the exsisting ones suck. also, why arent ccp aiming to have new forums ready for the launch of eve gate or sooner? ____________________________________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG

Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2010.03.23 02:15:00 - [51] I could be wrong, but isn't it the 23? Where is this alpha at? I want to try it out.. -------------------------------------- Adrift in New Eden
T'Amber www.shipsofeve.com	Posted - 2010.03.23 03:47:00 - [52] this please + a big "find something to do" button. Can't wait to test it out thanks. -T'amber Click to Support
Sciencegeek deathdealer	Posted - 2010.03.23 09:41:00 - [53] /me signs up for eve gate at 4:30am after waiting all night hopeing to get in.... still hopeing.... hopeing.... 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1.. 0.. 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1.. 0.. 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1.. 0.. bah!
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.23 09:46:00 - [54] ne want the eve gate link to test the thing BTW awesome post OP you win the forums today
Narcissus Dubhghall	Posted - 2010.03.23 11:45:00 - [55] So.... My calendar seems to be off?
Armoured C Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2010.03.23 12:10:00 - [56] where do you sign up for in in sisi i cant seem to find it =(
Hagen Stein Biotronics Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.23 12:41:00 - [57] Originally by: Bekenel Adequate hardware? adequate hardware ?!?!?!?! You don't even have that for fleet fights in the game... come on CCP Prioritize. You, sir, show that your alliance name is well choosen. Form all the blogs about (fleet) lag an EVE's general setup, it is pretty clear that hardware is not the problem. It's code/design (decision), which causes lag.
aetherguy881 Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.23 14:26:00 - [58] Yep, this finally got me to download the test server. Now, where is it? I can't find it, I'd like to give it look see. ------------------- Always remember this about EVE: Life is cheap, or 15 bucks a month.
Serpents smile	Posted - 2010.03.23 15:19:00 - [59] Adding my voice to this, anxiously logged into Sisi today to not find any EVE gate?
Pbs Pumpkin Scissors DarkSide.	Posted - 2010.03.23 15:21:00 - [60] Originally by: aetherguy881 Yep, this finally got me to download the test server. Now, where is it? I can't find it, I'd like to give it look see. This is stress-test. If you have stress, test is succsessful!

Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2010.03.23 15:23:00 - [61] I don't think it is going to be in Sisi... It is supposed to be a web based portal into the Sisi client. What is the delay?! Not even any communication about it yet... Guess it's nothing new... We will just wait here anyway -------------------------------------- Adrift in New Eden
ShadowMaster Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.23 16:26:00 - [62] So... I take it no EVE Gate today.
Cailais Amarr Diablo Advocatus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.23 18:43:00 - [63] "On March 23, we will announce that nothing of any consequence is happening with EVE Gate. Whilst we might have given the impression that something was going to happen, and used terminology like 'open Alpha' we of course meant nothing of the sort. We can of course suggest (without commitment) that we might, given the correct alignment of the planets, (not planetary interaction because that's not our department so we couldn't possibly comment) and a north easterly wind have something up and running by March 23 2067. This is not a firm date so please don't speculate that this might be the case and we accept no liability for any impression we might have given that it was...or is. Cos it isnt. Much love everyone at CCP." C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
Serpents smile	Posted - 2010.03.23 18:43:00 - [64] Originally by: ShadowMaster So... I take it no EVE Gate today. Yeah sorry, got a tiny bit delayed. Too much bree last friday.... Still trying to work the effects off.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.23 18:44:00 - [65] Originally by: ShadowMaster So... I take it no EVE Gate today. I'm disappointed, but I can't say I'm surprised.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:08:00 - [66] Edited by: CCP Karuck on 23/03/2010 19:08:33 Chill folks, it's still the 23rd :) EVE Gate is now open for testing! http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3763&tid=1

Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:17:00 - [67] Originally by: CCP Karuck Edited by: CCP Karuck on 23/03/2010 19:08:33 Chill folks, it's still the 23rd :) EVE Gate is now open for testing! http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3763&tid=1 \o/ OMG there's a POS attack on XYZ on June 16th!
ShadowMaster Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:18:00 - [68] ... AH ****! There goes my productivity for the day.
Night Epoch Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:21:00 - [69] Looking really good! obviously it's very slow at the moment, but probably because everybody has just logged on and is playing with it I've long been wishing that we could access and send mails out of game - if all EVE gate accomplishes is that, I'll be thrilled (although the calendar will be awesome too).
AgentFruitfly	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:22:00 - [70] Front page looks cool. Now if only I could log in.


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:25:00 - [71] Originally by: AgentFruitfly Front page looks cool. Now if only I could log in. You should be able to login with any active account. Are you getting an error?

Zirse Minmatar Integrated Astromechanics Corp.	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:26:00 - [72] Confirming that I can log in.
AgentFruitfly	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:27:00 - [73] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: AgentFruitfly Front page looks cool. Now if only I could log in. You should be able to login with any active account. Are you getting an error? Yup. With all toons. "Username/password incorrect". It's theoretically possible that I fatfingered one or the other like 30 times in a row, but I doubt it.
Night Epoch Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:27:00 - [74] Login fine for me - a little slow under the load, but everything was working (besides the Calendar, which apparently is not supposed to work yet).
Myxx	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:31:00 - [75] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: AgentFruitfly Front page looks cool. Now if only I could log in. You should be able to login with any active account. Are you getting an error? Yes, I'm getting a 'User is not active' error with this account, despite it being active when I try to log in with it. ---- Originally by: CCP Mitnal I can assure you I won't be keeping ferrets warm in my pants.
Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:39:00 - [76] When editing the bio, you can't set links, as in game. Will this change so that addresses will become links in Eve Gate? Would be nice instead of copy pasting. Besides no portraits, except Chribba's, and an error when you click on the space where your own would be, seems nice. I assume the speed will pick up once everything is finalized. Will this be the official discussion thread, and do we put issues here or have to file a bug report like on sisi? -------------------------------------- Adrift in New Eden
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:48:00 - [77] Tested a bit of the e-mails. It seems mails sent in EVE-Gate to myself don't show up in-game. Mails sent to myself in-game show up in EVE-Gate only once they are read in-game.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:52:00 - [78] Those of you that can't login, can you login to Singularity with the test client? It could be that your account just wasn't active when the last mirror from Tranquility to Singularity was done. Originally by: T*G0d When editing the bio, you can't set links, as in game. Will this change so that addresses will become links in Eve Gate? Would be nice instead of copy pasting. Besides no portraits, except Chribba's, and an error when you click on the space where your own would be, seems nice. I assume the speed will pick up once everything is finalized. Will this be the official discussion thread, and do we put issues here or have to file a bug report like on sisi? We are still working on the links in bio and mail. We plan to direct the in game links to Evelopedia. Regarding the "no portrait", just wait a while and it will appear. We have a new mechanism for rendering images now, and your image is simply in queue to render, and you get a temporary image while you wait. Just try again now and your portrait should already be there. Don't worry about the speed, the whole purpose of this alpha stress test is for us to identify problem areas we need to improve on, and get more hardware.


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:53:00 - [79] Originally by: Seth Ruin Tested a bit of the e-mails. It seems mails sent in EVE-Gate to myself don't show up in-game. Mails sent to myself in-game show up in EVE-Gate only once they are read in-game. This is a known issue for us that will be fixed soon.

AD10	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:53:00 - [80] I cannot login at all... Keeps saying my password or username is incorrect... Obviously my account is active I played EVE last night so I'm not sure what the problem is

Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:57:00 - [81] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Seth Ruin Tested a bit of the e-mails. It seems mails sent in EVE-Gate to myself don't show up in-game. Mails sent to myself in-game show up in EVE-Gate only once they are read in-game. This is a known issue for us that will be fixed soon. o7 Just reporting my findings

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.23 19:59:00 - [82] Originally by: AD10 I cannot login at all... Keeps saying my password or username is incorrect... Obviously my account is active I played EVE last night so I'm not sure what the problem is Is your account active on Singularity? it's a different environment, not the same as live. It might be that your account just wasn't active when the last mirror from tranquility was done.

Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:00:00 - [83] Originally by: AD10 I cannot login at all... Keeps saying my password or username is incorrect... Obviously my account is active I played EVE last night so I'm not sure what the problem is Have you logged in to sisi? This is based off of Sisi currently, and the mirror was taken on the 11 of March. Did you change your pw since then? -------------------------------------- Adrift in New Eden
AgentFruitfly	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:02:00 - [84] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: AD10 I cannot login at all... Keeps saying my password or username is incorrect... Obviously my account is active I played EVE last night so I'm not sure what the problem is Is your account active on Singularity? it's a different environment, not the same as live. It might be that your account just wasn't active when the last mirror from tranquility was done. ffs. I'm frickin logged into tranq right this second. And I copy/pasted both user/pw into evegate and it tells me that its incorrect. And I manually typed then a bunch of times.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:03:00 - [85] Originally by: AgentFruitfly Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: AD10 I cannot login at all... Keeps saying my password or username is incorrect... Obviously my account is active I played EVE last night so I'm not sure what the problem is Is your account active on Singularity? it's a different environment, not the same as live. It might be that your account just wasn't active when the last mirror from tranquility was done. ffs. I'm frickin logged into tranq right this second. And I copy/pasted both user/pw into evegate and it tells me that its incorrect. And I manually typed then a bunch of times. As said above, last mirror is close to 2 weeks old.

Talkietoaster Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:10:00 - [86] Login works fine for me. Can't wait to get this on Tranquility. Sitting at my desktop at work will never be the same :-) ... ... Would anybody like some toast ?
AgentFruitfly	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:13:00 - [87] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: AgentFruitfly Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: AD10 I cannot login at all... Keeps saying my password or username is incorrect... Obviously my account is active I played EVE last night so I'm not sure what the problem is Is your account active on Singularity? it's a different environment, not the same as live. It might be that your account just wasn't active when the last mirror from tranquility was done. ffs. I'm frickin logged into tranq right this second. And I copy/pasted both user/pw into evegate and it tells me that its incorrect. And I manually typed then a bunch of times. As said above, last mirror is close to 2 weeks old. Oh. hee. /me walks away whistling innocently.
Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:14:00 - [88] Originally by: AgentFruitfly ffs. I'm frickin logged into tranq right this second. Sisi, Sisi, Sisi. Not TQ.... You need to be able to log in to the test server, Singularity. If you can't do that, you can't get on Eve Gate. -------------------------------------- Adrift in New Eden
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:16:00 - [89] Not sure if this is a bug per se, but: 1) Log in to EVE Gate and Sisi 2) Open your character profile on Sisi 3) Modify your profile contents in EVE Gate. EVE Gate should load and confirm your profile was changed. 4) Your open character profile on Sisi should remain unchanged (since you haven't typed anything into it yet) 5) Close your character profile Since closing the window seems to tell the client to save whatever is written as your profile, there exists a sort-of race condition for saving the profile contents. My ExpertÖ advice: explicit "Save profile" button in the EVE client
Myxx	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:22:00 - [90] Originally by: CCP Karuck Those of you that can't login, can you login to Singularity with the test client? It could be that your account just wasn't active when the last mirror from Tranquility to Singularity was done. This is the case for me, it seems. bleh. Wtb updated mirror. ---- Originally by: CCP Mitnal I can assure you I won't be keeping ferrets warm in my pants.

Ammutseba Gangulur Minmatar Dreddit	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:25:00 - [91] Originally by: Seth Ruin Edited by: Seth Ruin on 23/03/2010 20:21:56 Not sure if this is a bug per se, but: 1) Log in to EVE Gate and Sisi 2) Open your character bio on Sisi 3) Modify your profile contents in EVE Gate and save the changes. EVE Gate should load and confirm your profile was changed. 4) Your open character profile on Sisi should remain unchanged (since you haven't typed anything into it yet) 5) Close your character bio Since closing the window seems to tell the client to save whatever is written as your profile, there exists a sort-of race condition for saving the profile contents. My ExpertÖ advice: explicit "Save profile" button in the EVE client Wait, so you understand race conditions but not blocking? Also, yay EVE gate! /********** Minmatar - Brutor - For Hire Posted In Game. **********/
Aero Zolic GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:28:00 - [92] OT: Is eve gate going to be able to change skills too?
L'Petit Object	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:29:00 - [93] Your Alpha has month old info on Eve Gate. Says I'm not training, am 30 million dollars poorer and have a million less SP. FYI. As designed?
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:30:00 - [94] Edited by: Seth Ruin on 23/03/2010 20:32:05 Originally by: Ammutseba Gangulur Wait, so you understand race conditions but not blocking? Also, yay EVE gate! Okay, blocking would be another option, but you generally don't want to block calls for an extended period of time. There's no way to know how long a client will have the bio page open. Also, if the client crashes with the bio open, you could have a messy situation. Originally by: L'Petit Object Your Alpha has month old info on Eve Gate. Says I'm not training, am 30 million dollars poorer and have a million less SP. FYI. As designed? As others have been told in the thread: EVE Gate is currently connected to the Singularity mirror (and all that entails), not Tranquility.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:32:00 - [95] Originally by: Myxx Originally by: CCP Karuck Those of you that can't login, can you login to Singularity with the test client? It could be that your account just wasn't active when the last mirror from Tranquility to Singularity was done. This is the case for me, it seems. bleh. Wtb updated mirror. You should get one late next week the next time we update Singularity,

Narkhana	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:33:00 - [96] It should be pointed out that if your character has another character set to +10 standings then that other character will be able to see all your contacts. I sure hope this doesn't mean that any corp/alliance I set to +10 will be able to see all my contacts. Regardless, you need to either state this in bold letters to everyone or you need to disable it until you do (or until the release). In other words, right now whomever I have set to +10 can see all my contacts. Oh yeah, I can't change the the standings through the browser, only the cancel button on the popup works.
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:34:00 - [97] Hmm.... lol, minable Mutual Contacts list. :D Seriously, having to delete all my Sisi contacts because of some idiot decided mutual contacts are a good thing to show to the world annoys me greatly. Please (pretty please with cherry on top?) tell me the final version won't have such foolish information leaks in it? On the plus side, bulk contact delete works. Tested it 20 times. All that's left now is is a "disbanded alliance" that I can't delete. Chatter is cool, btw.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:36:00 - [98] Originally by: Narkhana It should be pointed out that if your character has another character set to +10 standings then that other character will be able to see all your contacts. I sure hope this doesn't mean that any corp/alliance I set to +10 will be able to see all my contacts. Regardless, you need to either state this in bold letters to everyone or you need to disable it until you do (or until the release). In other words, right now whomever I have set to +10 can see all my contacts. Oh yeah, I can't change the the standings through the browser, only the cancel button on the popup works. It's hard-coded right now, but if you check the "Account Settings" link in the upper-right ( https://test.evegate.com/Account/Settings ) there's an example of what privacy settings might be available in the future.
Lijhal	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:40:00 - [99] Edited by: Lijhal on 23/03/2010 20:41:39 EVE Gate alpha test Login worked no character icons so far no corp icons too "Account Settings" link not working Mails correct, Bio correct, hole Profile section is correct Calender Soon (TM) Search function broken if you search for amarr + ships ... without + sign it worked cant wait to use this on tq!! great ****ing awesome! ah and btw ... how about adding a galaxy map with sov changes into it? same as ingame of course ... would be great! ps: using chrome 4.1.249.1036 and ff 3.6.2
Narkhana	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:41:00 - [100] Edited by: Narkhana on 23/03/2010 20:43:32 It might be hard-coded now and editable in the future but those contacts are still available for viewing right now. I.E. don't make the contacts visible unless we have the ability to hide them!


CCP Gecko	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:42:00 - [101] Yes currently account settings are hard coded for this SISI test and plan to be addressed within the next sprint. If you look at the account settings page you will see our placeholder information we are working on with combo drop downs for who you want to see and post on your wall. Same goes for who you can see as contacts. Wording will be cleared up as well on that page for clarity.

Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:47:00 - [102] Originally by: CCP Gecko Yes currently account settings are hard coded for this SISI test and plan to be addressed within the next sprint. If you look at the account settings page you will see our placeholder information we are working on with combo drop downs for who you want to see and post on your wall. Same goes for who you can see as contacts. Wording will be cleared up as well on that page for clarity. So... Will mutual contacts always be shown?
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:50:00 - [103] Originally by: Narkhana Edited by: Narkhana on 23/03/2010 20:43:32 It might be hard-coded now and editable in the future but those contacts are still available for viewing right now. I.E. don't make the contacts visible unless we have the ability to hide them! I guess a work-around for now would be to remove all your contacts (since it's just a Sisi mirror anyway) if you're concerned about contact data mining.
Narkhana	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:52:00 - [104] Ok, I will try to explain this a little better. RIGHT NOW a CEO of one of my characters who is set to good standing (left over from when we first met) is able to see my alts that I set to +10 to identify them as an alt. Even if these are only on Sisi they are still a copy of older standings that can still be valid. So everyone should go to their contacts, click on every contact and find out who some or all of their alts are, maybe them are doing some kind of spy thing or working for another corp with alts. You've opened a hole here and need to fix it.

CCP Gecko	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:52:00 - [105] Originally by: Paknac Queltel Originally by: CCP Gecko Yes currently account settings are hard coded for this SISI test and plan to be addressed within the next sprint. If you look at the account settings page you will see our placeholder information we are working on with combo drop downs for who you want to see and post on your wall. Same goes for who you can see as contacts. Wording will be cleared up as well on that page for clarity. So... Will mutual contacts always be shown? There will be an option/check box in the Account Settings to show or hide your mutual contacts towards others.

Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2010.03.23 20:58:00 - [106] Note for future reference.... Background images/themes would be nice.... Looking forward to what will come next. Great work so far! -------------------------------------- Adrift in New Eden
TheZealot 0OOO0 There's Something About Zealots...	Posted - 2010.03.23 21:02:00 - [107] Showing mutual contacts must by default be off, or there needs to be a way to have "friends" that don't show up to everyone else. Currently it is extremely open to exploitation to find out of two people know each other by adding both parties to your address book and seeing if they appear as shared contacts. AND the data is very minable.
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.23 21:19:00 - [108] first iteriation of eve gate looks erasonable awaiting next update Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00
Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2010.03.23 22:06:00 - [109] Originally by: TheZealot 0OOO0 Showing mutual contacts must by default be off, or there needs to be a way to have "friends" that don't show up to everyone else. Currently it is extremely open to exploitation to find out of two people know each other by adding both parties to your address book and seeing if they appear as shared contacts. AND the data is very minable. I can not see someone else's contacts unless they have me added as a contact too. Although I do agree with what you are saying, but I'm just saying..... -------------------------------------- Adrift in New Eden
Kathryn Dougans Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.23 22:11:00 - [110] what is the limit as to how many contacts you can have? I get 20:32:48 Info The contact list you are adding to is full. Please consider trimming your current list. which means I can't set standings to people or corps that I do not already have in addressbook. Being a single mother is quite hard.

Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.23 22:15:00 - [111] Originally by: CCP Gecko There will be an option/check box in the Account Settings to show or hide your mutual contacts towards others. Awesome. Might've been better to hardwire it to 'off' for now, though. I understand it's on for the wow-factor and all, but I had to delete 20 pages of contacts. On this test hardware, that was rather painful. Originally by: T*G0d I can not see someone else's contacts unless they have me added as a contact too. Although I do agree with what you are saying, but I'm just saying..... Except that you can. If there's a shared contact, right now, you can see it on the profile page. Combined with the clean XHTML making automising of scraping relatively easy, and with public sources of character names, it's very feasible to create a contact list scraper.
Th0rG0d Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2010.03.23 22:25:00 - [112] I stand corrected... -------------------------------------- Adrift in New Eden

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.23 22:33:00 - [113] Originally by: Kathryn Dougans what is the limit as to how many contacts you can have? I get 20:32:48 Info The contact list you are adding to is full. Please consider trimming your current list. which means I can't set standings to people or corps that I do not already have in addressbook. Current limit is 300 entries.

Pbs Pumpkin Scissors DarkSide.	Posted - 2010.03.23 22:36:00 - [114] It is just alpha :( Works very slowly, no skill switching, no trade orders, actually at this point there is only mail. Waiting for beta.
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.23 22:39:00 - [115] Originally by: Pbs It is just alpha :( Works very slowly, no skill switching, no trade orders, actually at this point there is only mail. Waiting for beta. Don't forget the Chatter. Chatter is awesome.
Fridge Chesthair	Posted - 2010.03.23 22:46:00 - [116] Edited by: Fridge Chesthair on 23/03/2010 22:46:27 Content Feedback:: Can someone (doesn't have to be a dev) explain a use for the quick contacts list on the right side your character's profile page? I understand the usefulness of displaying a short list of mutual contacts when viewing a someone's character profile page. Can I suggest including something else? I wouldn't even mind a news feed or ingame advertisement. Layout: I'm not a graphic designer, but I found the tile bar(s) to be overly thick. Also, the buttons in the lower section of the bar (HOME, PROFILE, CONTACTS, MAIL, ETC.) are not visually separated from the remainder of the bar. I mocked up a quick'n'dirty example.
Zex Maxwell Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.23 22:59:00 - [117] can you make it so its able to sync with facebook?
Kathryn Dougans Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.23 23:07:00 - [118] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Kathryn Dougans what is the limit as to how many contacts you can have? I get 20:32:48 Info The contact list you are adding to is full. Please consider trimming your current list. which means I can't set standings to people or corps that I do not already have in addressbook. Current limit is 300 entries. cool. will it go up eventually? Being a single mother is quite hard.
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.03.23 23:10:00 - [119] Can only comment on UI and graphic design at this point. Very clean and easy to read type. Website fits nicely within a 1280x720 space (I disagree with one of the previous comments about the navigation bars). Information generally flows top left to right, which is good. Addition of small (ICC) standings icons under Contacts subnav on the left would be helpful. Addition of icons here and there would be well advised but should only be considered where emphasis is needed and many UI options are immediately next to each other. Overall, well done. ___ Latest video: War Has Come (720p)
aetherguy881 Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.23 23:11:00 - [120] Edited by: aetherguy881 on 23/03/2010 23:13:39 Originally by: Zex Maxwell can you make it so its able to sync with facebook? It's not quite spacebook, although I'm still calling it that. I can't seem to get my character pict in the profile... edit1> Also, tabbing from the subject line in the message box through the formatting buttons is really annoying, just like here on the forum to the update/post/preview buttons. ------------------- Always remember this about EVE: Life is cheap, or 15 bucks a month.


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.23 23:14:00 - [121] Originally by: aetherguy881 Originally by: Zex Maxwell can you make it so its able to sync with facebook? It's not quite spacebook, although I'm still calling it that. I can't seem to get my character pict in the profile... Don't worry about your picture, it will come as it's already in queue. Our portrait rendering servers are getting a workout, it's all part of the stress-testing ;)

Zathi Shaitan Minmatar Illiteracy Combatants	Posted - 2010.03.23 23:48:00 - [122] " WARNING! Hackers are spamming our forums with links leading to key-loggers/Trojans and then ruining the accounts of players that navigate to those links. You have chosen to follow an external link. This link leads to a site outside of the control of CCP and, as such, we cannot offer any guarantee of its safety. Please check that the URL shown below is what you expected it to be before following it. If you wish to proceed please click the link below, or press your browsers back button to return to where you were. https://test.evegate.com/Account/Settings " This is hilarious. Let me guess: some hamster excuse as to why Evegate itself if not whitelisted on eveonline.com. Really, guys.. lame. ---- " Several unconventional alliances where made at that point " - Hey CCP, "where" != "were".. you too, Brutus? http://loseloose.com/
SirHarryPierce	Posted - 2010.03.23 23:49:00 - [123] Like the testfase. Had the same Image question. A sync with facebook would be an addition to the gateway. Would like to make a connection with the twitter API too.
BeanBagKing Ch3mic4l Warfare The Ascendent Dominion	Posted - 2010.03.24 00:08:00 - [124] [Feature Request] Ok, I know this is a long way off, I want to get it in here early though so it can be planned for. Skins, and specifically WORK SAFE OPTION! Lets face it, this comes out we'll all be eve-ing in class/work/meetings/senate hearing committees/etc. CCP should make one skin that uses no logo's, black on white, nothing that looks like a game. It'd be nice if they even made up some fake newspaper looking name/logo or something.

CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2010.03.24 00:16:00 - [125] If your Sisi account is inactive you can post in this thread to request reactivation, or you can wait until the next update. Keep the feedback coming! ------------------ Tester, Scrum Master Quality Assurance

Latex Sandals	Posted - 2010.03.24 00:19:00 - [126] How do I completely remove my character from public view on evegate? I don't want anything to do with it.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.03.24 00:22:00 - [127] How do I make it so my character is invisible?
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.03.24 00:30:00 - [128] Removing 3000 characters from my addressbook and resetting all corp standings.
Pbs Pumpkin Scissors DarkSide.	Posted - 2010.03.24 00:42:00 - [129] There is new corp-logo graphic on EVE Gate: This is good, but can we hope that you add some new sprites to logo generator?
DenShou Privateer Legion	Posted - 2010.03.24 00:47:00 - [130] Interesting note, when loading this site in Chrome. I do not see [ Home, Profile, Mail, Calendar ] Menu that I do see in Firefox. ~ Faith can move mountains.... of Inventory - Rule #104 Ferengi Rules of Acquisition

Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.03.24 00:51:00 - [131] Originally by: DenShou Interesting note, when loading this site in Chrome. I do not see [ Home, Profile, Mail, Calendar ] Menu that I do see in Firefox. Chrome is based on WebKit, which is the basis for Safari, which is the worst browser ever. It has problems with MANY standard layout techniques and in MANY cases needs custom non-standard code put in the wrong places before it will work. Same "amazing" piece of software they used for the new IGB.
Kyra Felann Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.24 01:00:00 - [132] Originally by: Latex Sandals How do I completely remove my character from public view on evegate? I don't want anything to do with it. You can make it so that the only info available is the same info also available in-game. I don't think you'll be able to do anything about people looking you up exactly like they can already do in-game, though.
DenShou Privateer Legion	Posted - 2010.03.24 01:01:00 - [133] I generally sit in FireFox, which loads the site fine. Just wanted to note it in case their may be a similar issue with the IGB. Since I'm not at home I didn't test it in the IGB. Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Originally by: DenShou Interesting note, when loading this site in Chrome. I do not see [ Home, Profile, Mail, Calendar ] Menu that I do see in Firefox. Chrome is based on WebKit, which is the basis for Safari, which is the worst browser ever. It has problems with MANY standard layout techniques and in MANY cases needs custom non-standard code put in the wrong places before it will work. Same "amazing" piece of software they used for the new IGB. ~ Faith can move mountains.... of Inventory - Rule #104 Ferengi Rules of Acquisition
BeanBagKing Ch3mic4l Warfare The Ascendent Dominion	Posted - 2010.03.24 01:07:00 - [134] [Feature Request] Tie ins with alts. The best way I can see this working is if both sides label each other as an alt, i.e. I log into one of my characters, select "This guy is my alt" then log into my other guy and select "first guy is my alt" and/or confirm that first guy set me as alt. This way saying someone was your alt wouldn't do anything until that person confirmed it. In this way settings, such as standings, buddy lists, evemail updates, calender events, etc could be shared without me having to manually add someone to the buddy list on each character I own. Everything is (or could be, if one chose so) mirrored. While I'm at it, I'll go ahead and request the impossible. I don't think this has anything to do with EveGate, but it could. I've requested some kind of bookmark management system before, either exporting them, better interface in game, something. As it is you can only transfer 5 at a time, when you have thousands they become a pain to manage. I've been told exporting them isn't an option because then people could hack them and create impossible to reach safes and such. So why not export the functionality to EveGate? In this way everything stays server side so we can't mess with the actual data in bookmarks, but we could have options like "share with buddies" or "transfer folder [SafeSpots]", etc.
Kinomoto Sakura FW Scuad E C L I P S E	Posted - 2010.03.24 01:23:00 - [135] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Jonathan Mcarthur Will Eve Gate use Javascript or Flash, or will it all be CSS and basic HTML? Simple "web standards" markup with CSS and heavy use of jQuery client-side scripting. We have one Flash marketing banner on front page, nothing else. I do like. Will it be possible to queue skills from EVE-gate??? (sorry if this was answered already, I'm a terrible lazy reader with little free time atm ) ---------------- - Is that a Shield Booster on your Omen? DesuSigs
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.03.24 02:22:00 - [136] https://test.evegate.com:443/Profile/CharacterName/AddContact No RequestVerificationToken. It is a POST request but if the code responds to GET as well (or if JS is used to make the POST) then this can be used to XSS attack AddContact. Users could use this to add themselves to enemy addressbook so that they can retrieve private info on target. It's probable it could be used to set blue standings for yourself on someone elses profile.
BeanBagKing Ch3mic4l Warfare The Ascendent Dominion	Posted - 2010.03.24 02:37:00 - [137] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith https://test.evegate.com:443/Profile/CharacterName/AddContact No RequestVerificationToken. It is a POST request but if the code responds to GET as well (or if JS is used to make the POST) then this can be used to XSS attack AddContact. Users could use this to add themselves to enemy addressbook so that they can retrieve private info on target. It's probable it could be used to set blue standings for yourself on someone elses profile. Quoted for recognition and props! Way to get a jump on security Battle!
Feng Schui Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.03.24 03:09:00 - [138] Will there be a mobile version of Eve-Gate? Project:Gank Pilgrim Guide
Narkhana	Posted - 2010.03.24 03:38:00 - [139] Originally by: CCP Gangleri If your Sisi account is inactive you can post in this thread to request reactivation, or you can wait until the next update. I'd like to have all the information for my characters removed from Sisi now and in the future, how do I go about requesting that for all my accounts? I appreciate the hard work being spent on this, and Eve Gate is definitely an awesome step CCP is taking; however, you've opened up quasi-productional buddy-list information to the general public in an alpha release of a product. If an insurance company did this with productional data that was a month old, would anyone think that would be ok? I know this is only a game but some people live on information and the basis that their associations within the game are kept secret. I'll repeat myself, this functionality needs to be turned off until the default setting can be modified to not make contact lists public.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.03.24 04:00:00 - [140] Originally by: BeanBagKing Skins, and specifically WORK SAFE OPTION! First of all.... AMEN!!! Bookmarklet: Save as a favourite and drag to browser links bar javascript:var%20css_file='c:/user.css';function%20addcss(w){var%20html_doc=w.document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0];var%20css=w.document.createElement('link');css.setAttribute('rel','stylesheet');css.setAttribute('type','text/css');css.setAttribute('href',css_file);html_doc.appendChild(css);}var%20errors=0;function%20checkFrames(w){if(w.frames%20&&%20w.frames.length>0){for(var%20i=0;i<w.frames.length;i++){var%20fr=w.frames[i];try{addcss(fr);}catch(e){errors++;}checkFrames(fr);}}}checkFrames(window);addcss(window);if(errors>0){alert('Could%20not%20access%20'%20+%20errors+'%20frame(s)');} user.css * { background: white !important; color: black !important; } :link, :link * { color: #0000EE !important; } :visited, :visited * { color: #551A8B !important; } This will strip the horrible background from eveonline.com so you can read the text without it being washed out by white on white. Turns text into black on white, u know, like books. As for evegate you'll need to adjust your security zones as this script won't run on SSL sites.

Xyla Kador	Posted - 2010.03.24 04:11:00 - [141] Originally by: DenShou Interesting note, when loading this site in Chrome. I do not see [ Home, Profile, Mail, Calendar ] Menu that I do see in Firefox. my chrome is fine...there was once a time when home took a bit to load but that was it :P
Xyla Kador	Posted - 2010.03.24 04:20:00 - [142] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Originally by: BeanBagKing Skins, and specifically WORK SAFE OPTION! First of all.... AMEN!!! Bookmarklet: Save as a favourite and drag to browser links bar -snip code- user.css * { background: white !important; color: black !important; } :link, :link * { color: #0000EE !important; } :visited, :visited * { color: #551A8B !important; } This will strip the horrible background from eveonline.com so you can read the text without it being washed out by white on white. Turns text into black on white, u know, like books. As for evegate you'll need to adjust your security zones as this script won't run on SSL sites. OMG u broke the forumz
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.03.24 04:25:00 - [143] Fixed.
KosmikZA The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.03.24 05:11:00 - [144] Edited by: KosmikZA on 24/03/2010 05:13:04 There are way to many full postbacks when moving around on the mail screens. Can you make it more asynchronous please? Also although this is obviously alpha as you said, any chance of a mobile portal? Blackberry would be nice :D
Napro Caldari Buccaneers of New Eden death from above..	Posted - 2010.03.24 05:48:00 - [145] Edited by: Napro on 24/03/2010 05:48:22 Will this host killmails too? If not, why not?
Lykouleon Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.24 06:17:00 - [146] EvEGate is working wonderfully in Maxthon 3 However, I hope there will be a difference in the release version between people in your contact lists. I have corps and alliances in there that I have specifically blocked, and seeing them pop up just reminds me how much I don't like them Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
ViolenTUK Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.03.24 06:19:00 - [147] I don't like the mutual contacts AT ALL. I don't want anyone knowing who or what my contacts are. What you have done is made all of my old contacts available on the test version of eve gate. This really wasn't very funny. Thankfully I noticed and have removed all of my contacts. Not good at all.
Luteros Minmatar Cronos Titan	Posted - 2010.03.24 06:35:00 - [148] Can you derive the standing for characters in the addressbook from Corp / Ally Standing as long as there is no personal standing i've set up.
schwar2ss Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.24 07:58:00 - [149] "Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. There are no free RPC proxies available right now" Is SpaceBook supposed to work?
Katana Seiko Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.24 08:00:00 - [150] Awesome.. Does reloading - say every 5 seconds - help with that stress test? Quote: Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. There are no free RPC proxies available right now --- "Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind." -Terry Pratchett

Bubbled	Posted - 2010.03.24 08:04:00 - [151] Originally by: schwar2ss "Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. There are no free RPC proxies available right now" I get this too on both my accounts I tried.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 08:26:00 - [152] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith https://test.evegate.com:443/Profile/CharacterName/AddContact No RequestVerificationToken. It is a POST request but if the code responds to GET as well (or if JS is used to make the POST) then this can be used to XSS attack AddContact. Users could use this to add themselves to enemy addressbook so that they can retrieve private info on target. It's probable it could be used to set blue standings for yourself on someone elses profile. I am very aware of attacks like that, this one must have slipped through. Next time please submit a bug report :)


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 08:28:00 - [153] Originally by: DenShou Interesting note, when loading this site in Chrome. I do not see [ Home, Profile, Mail, Calendar ] Menu that I do see in Firefox. We do use Chrome for testing. The menu bar isn't shown when you aren't logged in, are you sure you were logged in?

ViolenTUK Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.03.24 08:42:00 - [154] A feature should be added to the eve client in the form of a checkbox. The option should be "Disable EVEGATE".
JeanMichel Bizarre Volition Cult	Posted - 2010.03.24 08:42:00 - [155] Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 24/03/2010 08:43:01 This doesn't work in Chrome anymore (it did last night) but if I open it in IE-tab, still in Chrome, it does work. It also won't me log in now. Quote: Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. There are no free RPC proxies available right now ------
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.24 08:52:00 - [156] Originally by: Bubbled Originally by: schwar2ss "Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. There are no free RPC proxies available right now" I get this too on both my accounts I tried. I get this as well. I guess this would be why there's a stress test.
Femme Fatal Roving Guns Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.24 09:03:00 - [157] same Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. There are no free RPC proxies available right now

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 09:09:00 - [158] Try again now folks, we had Singularity downtime.. sorry the error message wasn't more explicit :)

Mantees Gallente The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple	Posted - 2010.03.24 09:19:00 - [159] It looks interesting. I can't wait that we will be able to check the market journal and transactions, and the status of the industry/research jobs. That would be great! -- OGRank.com - EVE Online - MMORPG News
Miana Amannar	Posted - 2010.03.24 09:58:00 - [160] Edited by: Miana Amannar on 24/03/2010 09:58:02 I'm strictly against this spacebook nonsense as long as my characters show up there by default. For privacy AND security reasons participating should be COMPLETELY optional - meaning that if I don't give my OK my chars will not show up in EVE Gate. No matter what! Are trial chars able to use EVE Gate? If yes - block them! You're opening a can of worms just to jump the social media bandwagon.

Mantees Gallente The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple	Posted - 2010.03.24 10:06:00 - [161] I honestly don't understand the complaints. If you don't like it don't use it, right? There is plenty of people who are really happy to see this being developed. Leave us our new toy! :D :D -- OGRank.com - EVE Online - MMORPG News
Evan Batarr	Posted - 2010.03.24 10:13:00 - [162] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Dr BattleSmith https://test.evegate.com:443/Profile/CharacterName/AddContact No RequestVerificationToken. It is a POST request but if the code responds to GET as well (or if JS is used to make the POST) then this can be used to XSS attack AddContact. Users could use this to add themselves to enemy addressbook so that they can retrieve private info on target. It's probable it could be used to set blue standings for yourself on someone elses profile. I am very aware of attacks like that, this one must have slipped through. Next time please submit a bug report :) How many more of these very trivial attack possibilities have 'slipped through'? And what about the not so trivial ones? I hope you're aware that EVE Gate is every EVE-playing hacker's wet dream? This will be the no. 1 spying tool. I already see the $$-signs in some people's eyes. Finding 0-day exploits for EVE-Gate will be a very lucrative business.
Miana Amannar	Posted - 2010.03.24 10:25:00 - [163] Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Latex Sandals How do I completely remove my character from public view on evegate? I don't want anything to do with it. You can make it so that the only info available is the same info also available in-game. I don't think you'll be able to do anything about people looking you up exactly like they can already do in-game, though. Well, there's a very big difference between IN GAME and out of game. If you follow some simple security measures it's practically impossible to hack your account to gather intel. It's a lot more trivial to do this on a web-based social media portal. Another big difference IMO: It's nearly impossible (or at least not trivial) to automatically gather the 'public info' (like who is in which corp etc.) of a big number of individuals in game. It's pretty easy to do that on EVE Gate. Any way to make intel gathering easier is bad IMO. So an OPT-OUT (or even better - make it OPT-IN) of EVE Gate should be a matter of course!
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2010.03.24 10:48:00 - [164] Originally by: Evan Batarr How many more of these very trivial attack possibilities have 'slipped through'? And what about the not so trivial ones? I hope you're aware that EVE Gate is every EVE-playing hacker's wet dream? This will be the no. 1 spying tool. I already see the $$-signs in some people's eyes. Finding 0-day exploits for EVE-Gate will be a very lucrative business. I'd have to agree on this point. One major screw up here is they actually ported all the pertaining personal character data without wiping the contacts list/mailes/whatever else clean for this Alpha. I spent some time playing around with the mutual contacts list adding over 7-8 pages of names that made for some interesting intelligence discovery. I'm wondering how much damage has already been done and whether this is going to blow when the majority of players find out. When your house is made of paper, don't risk the real data. I hope CCP sees this constructively when they move on to Beta, not repeating the same mistake again. Truly, as it is, I'm wary of even logging onto EVE Gate for fear of account compromise, regardless of the secure https. Only the paranoid survives - Andrew Grove.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 10:52:00 - [165] Originally by: Evan Batarr Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Dr BattleSmith https://test.evegate.com:443/Profile/CharacterName/AddContact No RequestVerificationToken. It is a POST request but if the code responds to GET as well (or if JS is used to make the POST) then this can be used to XSS attack AddContact. Users could use this to add themselves to enemy addressbook so that they can retrieve private info on target. It's probable it could be used to set blue standings for yourself on someone elses profile. I am very aware of attacks like that, this one must have slipped through. Next time please submit a bug report :) How many more of these very trivial attack possibilities have 'slipped through'? And what about the not so trivial ones? I hope you're aware that EVE Gate is every EVE-playing hacker's wet dream? This will be the no. 1 spying tool. I already see the $$-signs in some people's eyes. Finding 0-day exploits for EVE-Gate will be a very lucrative business. I just edited my comment above, this was NOT a vulnerability. It was a post by a concerned user, which I have now validated not to be true. We are very much on top of security issues on EVE Gate and do not want things like this to slip through.. which is why we need to catch them in testing before they go live to TQ.

Elrianmk2 Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.24 10:53:00 - [166] [Quote]Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. There are no free RPC proxies available right now Well stress side of the test seems to be working? Are there any metrics on the number of RPC connections are being used? and how active these connections are, or is this company confidential? I would hope not as its the test server and i want to hammer it a lot. Comment: good to see the incorrect username / PW message is easy to see and understand been on sites that dont comment on it just represent the credentials page, however could you make it bigger for um... people who may have imbibed a bit, to read? If it wasnt for bad luck, i wouldnt have any luck at all
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.03.24 11:22:00 - [167] Originally by: CCP Karuck Edit: This wasn't an issue at all, this action was already blocked for HTTP GET. We are also using HTTP DELETE btw. Still needs a token as HTTP DELETE can be generated by javascript. Originally by: CCP Karuck I just edited my comment above, this was NOT a vulnerability. It was a post by a concerned user, which I have now validated not to be true. I don't think hubris is a pathway to good security. The hit needs a token, it is insecure, HTTP DELETE is no different to POST in this respect and either can be forged within the users browser.

CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2010.03.24 11:29:00 - [168] Originally by: Elrianmk2 Quote: Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. There are no free RPC proxies available right now Well stress side of the test seems to be working? Are there any metrics on the number of RPC connections are being used? This is the error that is returned when Sisi is not available, the daily downtime for Sisi is 07:30-09:00 GMT but as it is a test server unscheduled downtimes happen as well. The easiest way for you to see whether Sisi is available is to use one of the available webtools, like these: http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/server_status.php http://www.eve-offline.net/?server=singularity ------------------ Tester, Scrum Master Quality Assurance

Camios Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.03.24 11:47:00 - [169] It does not load the character portraits even if I wait for 10 minutes.
Elrianmk2 Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.24 11:52:00 - [170] Currently i find that the [character]:[charactername]fields are overwriting each other when looking at the member list of the corporation, i assume that this is due to the field-width of the [character] not being defined accurately due to the lack of portrait propagation. If it wasnt for bad luck, i wouldnt have any luck at all

Jae Car'das	Posted - 2010.03.24 11:54:00 - [171] It's great that mail is now available out of game and I am really looking forward to the calander, but I am more looking forward to the API being updated so I can integrate it into our Alliance Website. Will full mail and calander funcitonality be available via the API and if so any idea how long after Beta? Are contacts, mail, calendar and chat broadcasting the only functions planned at the moment? Will skill queue viewing/managment, assets, order and wallet viewing come later to? Feedback wise - very slow (to be expected) and my mail is out of sync. Eve Gate mail is behind in game mail by 3 weeks.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 12:03:00 - [172] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 24/03/2010 11:25:56 Originally by: CCP Karuck Edit: This wasn't an issue at all, this action was already blocked for HTTP GET. We are also using HTTP DELETE btw. Still needs a token as HTTP DELETE can be generated by javascript. Originally by: CCP Karuck I just edited my comment above, this was NOT a vulnerability. It was a post by a concerned user, which I have now validated not to be true. I don't think hubris is a pathway to good security. The hit needs a token, it is insecure, HTTP DELETE is no different to POST in this respect and either can be forged within the users browser. If this hit was not important I'd agree that DELETE was enough, however this very request can be used to set blue and gain access to users information. I'm sorry I misunderstood what you were pointing out. I thought you were simply worried it was exposed as GET, I must have missed your comment about the token. I will definitely look into this, thanks for pointing it out.

Raidan Morfarik	Posted - 2010.03.24 12:05:00 - [173] Originally by: Jae Car'das It's great that mail is now available out of game and I am really looking forward to the calander, but I am more looking forward to the API being updated so I can integrate it into our Alliance Website. Will full mail and calander funcitonality be available via the API and if so any idea how long after Beta? Are contacts, mail, calendar and chat broadcasting the only functions planned at the moment? Will skill queue viewing/managment, assets, order and wallet viewing come later to? Feedback wise - very slow (to be expected) and my mail is out of sync. Eve Gate mail is behind in game mail by 3 weeks. Eve gate seems to be linked to Sisi, not TQ. so no sync since release i think !

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 12:06:00 - [174] Originally by: Jae Car'das Are contacts, mail, calendar and chat broadcasting the only functions planned at the moment? Will skill queue viewing/managment, assets, order and wallet viewing come later to? Feedback wise - very slow (to be expected) and my mail is out of sync. Eve Gate mail is behind in game mail by 3 weeks. Actually, your skill list and skill queue are already there and working (look under Character Sheet on your profile page). We have big plans for the future, but are still deciding on what takes priority... but everything you mentioned has been discussed. Again.. this test website is running on our test environment Singularity, it's not your live data. Currently this data is 2 weeks old, and updated roughly every 3 weeks.

Alice Krige	Posted - 2010.03.24 13:12:00 - [175] On my contact list I get the [ ] Generic Corp logo Disbanded alliance [ standing ] with a number of my contacts. So I can't see the character names only their standing and that they were member of an Alliance which has since disbanded... So who are they?
Narkhana	Posted - 2010.03.24 13:28:00 - [176] Originally by: CCP Karuck Again.. this test website is running on our test environment Singularity, it's not your live data. Currently this data is 2 weeks old, and updated roughly every 3 weeks. The data being two weeks old is besides the point, having contacts available to be viewed without the option to opt-out is unacceptable in a game such as EVE. Unfortunately it doesn't seem that CCP cares as their only response is "this data is 2 weeks old". Thankfully professional companies that hold personal information don't take the same approach with my personal data. I wonder what would happen if Facebook made all friends lists available (even if the list is 2 weeks old) and didn't give the option to opt-out? Like I said, all of what you've done is cool so far, but leaving the contact lists available on Eve-Gate is a serious lack of concern for your players privacy.

CCP Purple Tentacle	Posted - 2010.03.24 13:46:00 - [177] Originally by: Camios It does not load the character portraits even if I wait for 10 minutes. In order to see how the image servers copes with load, we started them with a completely empty image cache. Your initial rush on the website yielded the expected results, the render queue skyrocketed and is still trying to catch up. It's safe to say that it will require some more time to process everything it got during the initial phase of the alpha test, probably even one more day or so. Once it managed to burn down the current epic queue and nicely filled up its portrait and corp logo caches, it will become much more responsive and hopefully render the faces of the newcomers within 10 minutes of the first request, the speed we were originally aiming for.

ULTImatio	Posted - 2010.03.24 14:04:00 - [178] EVE-Online is a place of life and dead! ItÆs no dam social site. Now this EVE-Gate just turned into a dam Intel tool. I donÆt think Pilots like to see that there current buddy list becomes a social network thing that can be use as Intel. Now every Pilot in EVE can checkout your Mutual Contacts. If there standings are all positive they can checkout your entire address book.
Lionel Redstar	Posted - 2010.03.24 14:07:00 - [179] Edited by: Lionel Redstar on 24/03/2010 14:14:12 Small bug on the contact list: I have 2 "Disbanded alliance" that can't be deleted. Dunno which, have to check ingame. Edit: I checked ingame and they are actually 2 closed corporations. After I removed them ingame they disappeared from EveGate too.
Jae Car'das	Posted - 2010.03.24 14:41:00 - [180] Can a CCP anwser my previous question please - Will full mail and calander funcitonality be available via the API and if so any idea how long after Beta? Thanks

BenjaminBarker	Posted - 2010.03.24 15:07:00 - [181] Log into an account. Navigate to test.evegate.com/LogOn/SwitchCharacter/1670632377 Now you can see where he is, what he's in, his SP total, and isk amount. The character numbers can be pulled from any character picture in EVEGate.
Narkhana	Posted - 2010.03.24 15:26:00 - [182] Originally by: BenjaminBarker Log into an account. Navigate to test.evegate.com/LogOn/SwitchCharacter/1670632377 Now you can see where he is, what he's in, his SP total, and isk amount. The character numbers can be pulled from any character picture in EVEGate. Good catch Benjamin. Unfortunately I don't expect CCP to do anything about it since the data is 2 weeks old. I would create a petition however I'm at work atm. I posted a new topic over in the Assembly Hall hoping someone from the CSM will take notice.
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.24 15:27:00 - [183] Originally by: BenjaminBarker Log into an account. Navigate to test.evegate.com/LogOn/SwitchCharacter/1670632377 Now you can see where he is, what he's in, his SP total, and isk amount. The character numbers can be pulled from any character picture in EVEGate. Confirming this
Narkhana	Posted - 2010.03.24 15:40:00 - [184] Thank you CCP for taking Eve-Gate down! I look forward to using it again once these security issues have been resolved.

CCP Rhayger	Posted - 2010.03.24 15:41:00 - [185] Originally by: Narkhana Originally by: BenjaminBarker Log into an account. Navigate to test.evegate.com/LogOn/SwitchCharacter/1670632377 Now you can see where he is, what he's in, his SP total, and isk amount. The character numbers can be pulled from any character picture in EVEGate. Good catch Benjamin. Unfortunately I don't expect CCP to do anything about it since the data is 2 weeks old. I would create a petition however I'm at work atm. I posted a new topic over in the Assembly Hall hoping someone from the CSM will take notice. We're already working on fixing this, good catch. :)

ViolenTUK Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.03.24 15:48:00 - [186] Edited by: ViolenTUK on 24/03/2010 15:49:13 Good catch "BenjaminBarker". Thank you to CCP for disabling eve gate for the time being. I have no problem with what eve gate could become as it looks promising but we need full control over what people can and can't see. By default most features of eve gate need to be disabled with a full contextual warning whenever you choose to enable them. Standings & Contacts are private data and should be treated as such whether the data is current, 2 weeks old, 2 months old or 2 years old.
ROMOAS	Posted - 2010.03.24 16:19:00 - [187] i am glad it is turned off after all the way i see it all the info i need to see is in my account by using the EVEgate it is a way to trace ppl but can be exployted to the point that can cause damages to the char

CCP Rhayger	Posted - 2010.03.24 16:25:00 - [188] Our design is to have almost all of that stuff configurable by you guys in an account settings page so you can decide what you do and do not want to show for yourself (with defaults being set to very safe levels). We just don't have that page done yet, it's tasked for sprint 4 (we're in early sprint 3). We're rolling out a new build now that we will deploy shortly and we will continue to address anything that pops up promptly. Remember the intent of the test is to beat up the hardware, but obviously we don't want incomplete features exposing any info you want to keep private. The feedback has been invaluable and we really appreciate it.


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 16:38:00 - [189] Originally by: Narkhana Originally by: CCP Karuck Again.. this test website is running on our test environment Singularity, it's not your live data. Currently this data is 2 weeks old, and updated roughly every 3 weeks. The data being two weeks old is besides the point, having contacts available to be viewed without the option to opt-out is unacceptable in a game such as EVE. Unfortunately it doesn't seem that CCP cares as their only response is "this data is 2 weeks old". Thankfully professional companies that hold personal information don't take the same approach with my personal data. I wonder what would happen if Facebook made all friends lists available (even if the list is 2 weeks old) and didn't give the option to opt-out? Like I said, all of what you've done is cool so far, but leaving the contact lists available on Eve-Gate is a serious lack of concern for your players privacy. You are taking my reply completely out of context, I was simply replying to a person that was asking why his mail was old. We are listening to your concerns and making adjustments.


CCP Priya	Posted - 2010.03.24 17:06:00 - [190] A new build of EVE Gate is currently up on https://test.evegate.com/ Originally by: CCP Rhayger Originally by: Narkhana Originally by: BenjaminBarker Log into an account. Navigate to test.evegate.com/LogOn/SwitchCharacter/1670632377 Now you can see where he is, what he's in, his SP total, and isk amount. The character numbers can be pulled from any character picture in EVEGate. Good catch Benjamin. Unfortunately I don't expect CCP to do anything about it since the data is 2 weeks old. I would create a petition however I'm at work atm. I posted a new topic over in the Assembly Hall hoping someone from the CSM will take notice. We're already working on fixing this, good catch. :) This bug has been fixed. The mutual contacts view has been removed completely at this point pending further work on the privacy settings. Currently only pilots who you have set Excellent(+10) standings towards are able to view your contact list, if you don¦t want them to be able to view who you have on your contact list then set the standings to Good(+5) or lower. We are taking note of your privacy concerns and working hard to further develop the system so it will best serve the social network of EVE without compromising the privacy of the pilots. Originally by: Jae Car'das Can a CCP anwser my previous question please - Will full mail and calander funcitonality be available via the API and if so any idea how long after Beta? Thanks Read access for mail and calendar will be available via the API. Write access will not be available via the API. For the Calendar we will also have the ability to export the calendar in the "iCal" open standard allowing import into outlook, Google Calendar, etc.


Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.24 17:21:00 - [191] Originally by: CCP Priya Read access for mail and calendar will be available via the API. Write access will not be available via the API. For the Calendar we will also have the ability to export the calendar in the "iCal" open standard allowing import into outlook, Google Calendar, etc. Allow me to make a prediction... Unless there will be some sort of API for read AND write access to the calendar, mail and chatter, we'll be seeing applications wrapping around Gate and asking for username and password.
Narkhana	Posted - 2010.03.24 17:33:00 - [192] Originally by: CCP Priya The mutual contacts view has been removed completely at this point pending further work on the privacy settings. Currently only pilots who you have set Excellent(+10) standings towards are able to view your contact list, if you don¦t want them to be able to view who you have on your contact list then set the standings to Good(+5) or lower. We are taking note of your privacy concerns and working hard to further develop the system so it will best serve the social network of EVE without compromising the privacy of the pilots. Although I still think the the option should be available to opt-out (even with the alpha) I'll stop complaining as +10 is better than good and above. One other thing, when settings standings, the option to send notification is selected by default, can this be changed to default to unselected? It would be better to force someone to knowingly send the notification instead of accidentally sending one because they missed clicking that button. If you forget to send one you can just reset the settings, set the new standing again and send out the notification, if it's accidentally sent that can't be undone.

CCP Adida	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:01:00 - [193] Edited by: CCP Adida on 24/03/2010 18:01:29 To keep the feedback in one location I've closed a couple of other threads. Below are links to the threads that were closed. This is linked solely so that the information isn't lost. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1289402 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1289782 Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:14:00 - [194] Ok. It now loads on my ps3 without locking it up but won't do anything when I enter my account name and pass in the top field. It just loads another login page that does nothing when I enter the account info again. Am I doing it wrong or is this site not going to be compatable with the ps3 browser? Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! CCP Shadow's Troll List.
ShadowMaster Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:25:00 - [195] I would have to agree, Opt-in > Opt-out as far as sharing any kind of information. By default the only thing people who find me on EVE-Gate should see is what they can see in game. My bio, employment history, and current alliance/corp.
Avalon Ranger Exitus Acta Probat manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:25:00 - [196] Edited by: Avalon Ranger on 24/03/2010 18:27:54 Reposting from the locked topic so that it is all in one place: Mail: There need to be a button for sending mail to "Corp" and "Alliance". Currently typing in 'Corp' sends it to the player 'Corp' and selecting people from your contacts list is rather difficult with the current method. I'd like to see a method similar to in-game when creating mail. Sending a mail to an address that does not exist does not generate an error but fails silently like so. Quote: From: Avalon Ranger To: R.I.P. EVE Status: Remove overlaps text. Character Sheet: Displayed two different skill point values. Mailing Lists: You can't delete a mailing list you've created. [Intermittent, may be fixed now]
BenjaminBarker	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:27:00 - [197] Originally by: Zeba Ok. It now loads on my ps3 without locking it up but won't do anything when I enter my account name and pass in the top field. It just loads another login page that does nothing when I enter the account info again. Am I doing it wrong or is this site not going to be compatable with the ps3 browser? Clearly CCP QA team needs to get a few PS3's for testing purposes. The poor guys...
Polaris Lumine Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:29:00 - [198] When I try to log in it says User not Active. I'm more active than a bag of active things. Why can't I get in :(
Draco Argen	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:37:00 - [199] User that reported the "Profile, mail" etc menu is missing. Stumbled on this myself. On initial login you get presented with your available toons (3 of in my case) and the large one says select character. You have to click the large avatar/toon image to actually activate them and get into those features. Not uber clear i agree, but chrome works. Ran into the same visual issue in Opera.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:38:00 - [200] Edited by: CCP Karuck on 24/03/2010 18:42:02 Originally by: Zeba Ok. It now loads on my ps3 without locking it up but won't do anything when I enter my account name and pass in the top field. It just loads another login page that does nothing when I enter the account info again. Am I doing it wrong or is this site not going to be compatable with the ps3 browser? Are you sure you have an active account on our Singularity testing environment? Please remember this has 2 weeks old data. Do you see an error on the second page that loads? something like "User not active" ?



CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:41:00 - [201] Originally by: Avalon Ranger Edited by: Avalon Ranger on 24/03/2010 18:27:54 Reposting from the locked topic so that it is all in one place: Mail: There need to be a button for sending mail to "Corp" and "Alliance". Currently typing in 'Corp' sends it to the player 'Corp' and selecting people from your contacts list is rather difficult with the current method. I'd like to see a method similar to in-game when creating mail. Sending a mail to an address that does not exist does not generate an error but fails silently like so. Currently you have a Send Mail button on your corp and alliance profile pages, but we probably should add it to the Add Recipient window as well. Thanks for the suggestion. Originally by: Avalon Ranger EVE Status: Remove overlaps text. Thanks for spotting this, we'll certainly fix it. Originally by: Avalon Ranger Character Sheet: Displayed two different skill point values. Is your training queue active there? the skill points at top shows number of skills you have finished training, but the lower number also includes the points for partially trained skills. Originally by: Avalon Ranger Mailing Lists: You can't delete a mailing list you've created. [Intermittent, may be fixed now] Yes this was fixed in an update that went out today :)

Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:43:00 - [202] Originally by: BenjaminBarker Originally by: Zeba Ok. It now loads on my ps3 without locking it up but won't do anything when I enter my account name and pass in the top field. It just loads another login page that does nothing when I enter the account info again. Am I doing it wrong or is this site not going to be compatable with the ps3 browser? Clearly CCP QA team needs to get a few PS3's for testing purposes. The poor guys... Actually if dust is going to tie into this site then making sure it works with console browsers in at least a functional level would be a massive plus to marketing it as not all console owners have a computer. Though I'm sure a browser update from sony would go quite far in getting it to work too as the ps3 browser is based on ie6. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! CCP Shadow's Troll List.
Avalon Ranger Exitus Acta Probat manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:46:00 - [203] Originally by: CCP Karuck Is your training queue active there? the skill points at top shows number of skills you have finished training, but the lower number also includes the points for partially trained skills. I have no skills training but I may have some paused and not completed from a LONG time ago. According to the image, if you look again, I have no skill queue active.
Avalon Ranger Exitus Acta Probat manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:52:00 - [204] EVE Gate first use: I feel the first page (After logging in) need to be updated a little so that it is easier to tell you need to click your characters picture to continue. I know this currently mirrors the client login but I feel some additional text should be required to prompt the user into selecting the appropriate character. First Login: Logging out and in again after selecting a character. As you can see it's a little hard to know what's going on and first time users might struggle. Just another idea to make use of the system easier and may explain why some people complain about not getting access to the other options.
BenjaminBarker	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:53:00 - [205] Originally by: Avalon Ranger Originally by: CCP Karuck Is your training queue active there? the skill points at top shows number of skills you have finished training, but the lower number also includes the points for partially trained skills. I have no skills training but I may have some paused and not completed from a LONG time ago. According to the image, if you look again, I have no skill queue active. I've seen that somewhere else... with partially trained skills not adding to the overall total in one place, but showing in another.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.24 18:54:00 - [206] Originally by: CCP Karuck Are you sure you have an active account on our Singularity testing environment? Please remember this has 2 weeks old data. Do you see an error on the second page that loads? something like "User not active" ? I'm using my zeba account info and that has an unbroken sub since creation and have tried my other account info with the same result. There are no error statements. I load the intial page with all the graphics fine and enter my info in the top login fields and hit enter or use my mouse to hit the login button. This then takes me to a login page with only the background graphics and an additional login field in the main area. When account info is entered in either of the login fields top or main page and you hit enter or click the button with the mouse nothing happens except the info dissapears. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! CCP Shadow's Troll List.
Avalon Ranger Exitus Acta Probat manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.03.24 19:02:00 - [207] Edited by: Avalon Ranger on 24/03/2010 19:03:26 Originally by: Zeba I'm using my Zeba account info and that has an unbroken sub since creation and have tried my other account info with the same result. There are no error statements. I load the initial page with all the graphics fine and enter my info in the top login fields and hit enter or use my mouse to hit the login button. This then takes me to a login page with only the background graphics and an additional login field in the main area. When account info is entered in either of the login fields top or main page and you hit enter or click the button with the mouse nothing happens except the info disappears. Hey there, Here's a screen shot of what happens when using the website on a computer with no login details entered. Is this the page you see? Is the text different in anyway? If not could you provide an image of some sort. That usually helps developers see the problem. A picture tells a 1000 words. Or in this case about 50 but it might help.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.24 19:19:00 - [208] That looks exactly like the page it sends me to but there is no error field with that text. Nothing at all in that spot actually as there is no space between the 'EVE gate > Log On' and the 'please enter your....' input box below it. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! CCP Shadow's Troll List.
Avalon Ranger Exitus Acta Probat manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.03.24 19:35:00 - [209] Originally by: Zeba That looks exactly like the page it sends me to but there is no error field with that text. Nothing at all in that spot actually as there is no space between the 'EVE gate > Log On' and the 'please enter your....' input box below it. The PS3 Browsers has a lot of weird support. I has limited JavaScript support and doesn't send HTTP headers to servers etc. It's going to be a while before something like EVE gate is usable by the PS3 unless the issue has something to do with set browser support. The PS3 returns a very weird value for it's browser to servers. I don't know a whole lot but maybe if CCP sent a friendly email to Sony?.. Haha, like that would do anything. Either way most mobile (Modern ones) will be EVE Gate compatible as they run slightly shrunk down versions of the big boys.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.24 19:36:00 - [210] Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 24/03/2010 19:27:49 That looks exactly like the page it sends me to but there is no error field with that text. Nothing at all in that spot actually as there is no space between the 'EVE gate > Log On' and the 'please enter your....' input box below it. edit. I can't link images as I'm stuck on my ps3 for the moment as my computer literallu went up in flames due to a dying power supply. I was downstairs making some dinner when the fire alarm goes off in my den so I rush up to see smoke and flames billowing out of the back of it. I just thank god I kept it ontop of my desk and not underneath it as that would not have ended well for maybe the entire house. :P So now I'm doing a personal social experiment on how long I can last without a computer in my life and this dratted ps3 browser is pushing the limits of my tolerance. It was great as a chairborne forum whoor device but now as its my only link to teh interwebs its really showing its shortcomings as in it absolutely refuses to use any pagebreaks hence all my recent walls of text.. Thanks for clarifying this :) We'll look into the matter.


Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.24 19:58:00 - [211] Edited by: Zeba on 24/03/2010 20:01:24 Originally by: CCP Karuck Thanks for clarifying this :) We'll look into the matter. np. =) Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! CCP Shadow's Troll List.
Carcusian D00M. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.03.24 21:02:00 - [212] Could we PLEASE have an Eve-Gate option to either control character portrait size, or disable it altogether? Some of us have HUGE contact lists, limitting us to 10 contacts per page in makes for annoyingly long number of pages to click through esp when looking for one person. It would be nice to be able to view 10/50/100 contacts per page at a time, whatever suits a person best. I guess it's sorta like asking for an option to diable portraits for in-game chat channels, so one can view more than 30 players in a channel at any given time, esp when there's 100+ people in there. Such a simple option to add!

CCP Purple Tentacle	Posted - 2010.03.24 22:37:00 - [213] We will start enhancing the user experience as soon as all the features we planned for the initial release have been implemented properly. Some ideas from this thread, including the previous one allowing some kind of a contact list customization are definitely worth considering. Keep being constructive, we are taking notes. As for now, you can use the top right search box for searching for a specific contact without having to page through all your myriad of friends.

Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.03.24 23:44:00 - [214] Horse, gate, gone! I'm sure someone has already used the exploits to download the entire list of corps, members, and their addressbooks. Thanx CCP for exposing years of private in confidence data.
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2010.03.25 01:32:00 - [215] Tested on an HTC Magic Cell phone. OS: Android 1.6(no I didn't root/mod it) Using Android's built in Browser(NOT a WAP browser, full HTML) Everything I can tests works just like it does on my desktop. Little slow, but to be expected. Suggestion: Full EVE server status page, complete with graphs for today, week, month, year, 5 year, forever. I miss coldfronts.
Muestereate	Posted - 2010.03.25 02:40:00 - [216] Can't seem to log in today, worked yesterday. Quote: Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. A required anti-forgery token was not supplied or was invalid.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.03.25 04:53:00 - [217] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1290505 Eve Private Addressbook. The only true way to avoid the EveGate intel tool is to remove all contacts from Eve.
Lykouleon Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.25 07:08:00 - [218] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1290505 Eve Private Addressbook. The only true way to avoid the EveGate intel tool is to remove all contacts from Eve. You know...if you stopped whining about it and did a bug report, CCP might, you know, fix it for the actual final relase? Maybe? Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.25 08:20:00 - [219] This is an alpha version, we are still working on it. And yes, we do take security seriously and will patch any exploits if they are found.

Esrevid Nekkeg Justified and Ancient	Posted - 2010.03.25 08:49:00 - [220] The link to the test site now first leads to the external site warning page. Not that it is wrong, there are probably still flaws and security issues, as expected as it is still in the alpha phase. But the external site warning page also states 'This link leads to a site outside of the control of CCP......' And that is a little hard to believe.

Sturmwolke	Posted - 2010.03.25 08:59:00 - [221] Edited by: Sturmwolke on 25/03/2010 09:03:31 Originally by: CCP Karuck This is an alpha version, we are still working on it. And yes, we do take security seriously and will patch any exploits if they are found. I understand you're working on an alpha version. Most of the public understand it's an alpha version. What I don't understand is your posture on using real private data sets for this alpha. POS towers and moon survey are disabled on SISI just for this reason alone. Therefore, I would like to request that any pertaining 1. contacts, 2. mail data and 3. standings be wiped clean for all characters without necessitating the players to do this job manually. Run a set of dummy contact and mail data if you want the players to play around with the EveGate funtions. Saying that you take security seriously isn't going to help much when you're already breached. Leveraging that there won't be anymore future breaches because of the increased vigilance is just naive. The correct recourse until EveGate goes live is as per paragraph 2. edit: added standings
Dimitri Kerensky Stardust Heavy Industries	Posted - 2010.03.25 10:09:00 - [222] You also revamped the (elements of the) corp logos. Most of them are looking better now, but our one is on the worse side: old one: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/images/corps/128/Stardust_Heavy_Industries.png new one: https://imagetest.eveonline.com/Corporation/661794950_128.png
Skippermonkey	Posted - 2010.03.25 10:23:00 - [223] Originally by: Dimitri Kerensky You also revamped the (elements of the) corp logos. Most of them are looking better now, but our one is on the worse side: old one: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/images/corps/128/Stardust_Heavy_Industries.png new one: https://imagetest.eveonline.com/Corporation/661794950_128.png Thats an improvement. I think the old shaded logos look different in the new one, also the bckgrounds too. My old corp logo looks a bit plain now.
ULTImatio	Posted - 2010.03.25 11:07:00 - [224] I am still waiting for improved Profile Settings. Currently we only have these: * The following pilots have the ability to see and post to my broadcast log * The following pilots have the ability to see my profile's contacts that are not mutual I really like to see the next one added: * The following pilots have the ability to see my profile's mutual contacts * The following pilots have the ability to see my profile information So we can disable these as well.

CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2010.03.25 11:23:00 - [225] Originally by: Dimitri Kerensky You also revamped the (elements of the) corp logos. Most of them are looking better now, but our one is on the worse side: old one: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/images/corps/128/Stardust_Heavy_Industries.png new one: https://imagetest.eveonline.com/Corporation/661794950_128.png That is very likely due to a known issue that we have already fixed internally, should be fixed on Sisi next week although your logo may remain in cache any future renderings of the same logo component will be correct. A part of the stress test is a new service for rendering and serving character, corp and alliance logos. Originally by: ULTImatio I am still waiting for improved Profile Settings. Currently we only have these: * The following pilots have the ability to see and post to my broadcast log * The following pilots have the ability to see my profile's contacts that are not mutual I really like to see the next one added: * The following pilots have the ability to see my profile's mutual contacts * The following pilots have the ability to see my profile information So we can disable these as well. We already removed the mutual contacts section, what is it about the profile that would warrant privacy controls for it? ------------------ Tester, Scrum Master Quality Assurance

equcin meey Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.25 11:34:00 - [226] Edited by: equcin meey on 25/03/2010 11:35:42 Edited by: equcin meey on 25/03/2010 11:34:41 found that i am logged in when i used a page from my history list this should not happen as most other site's tell you that you need to login when veiwing an old page,maybe a time limit if you don't use it for awhile too like you have for this site. just a cosmetic thing with the next page and prevous page buttons they seem to be abit small on a 1920 X 1080 HD screen.but ok on a 1680 X 1050 screen.the corp logo's do look different well mine does look better now than in game,so you may want to give corp's a chance to improve their logo's as i have seen afew that i know of and they look worse on eve gate than in game and to be honest who doesn't want a good looking corp logo outside of the game too
Christina Knight	Posted - 2010.03.25 12:27:00 - [227] Dont know if this is known about but i changed my password on my account and it works for forums and account management but wont work to log into eve gate
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.25 12:30:00 - [228] Originally by: Christina Knight Dont know if this is known about but i changed my password on my account and it works for forums and account management but wont work to log into eve gate It's known. EVE Gate is running from the Singularity mirror, which means its information is about 2 weeks old now.
Christina Knight	Posted - 2010.03.25 12:32:00 - [229] ahh didnt know it effected account passwords
Evan Batarr	Posted - 2010.03.25 12:58:00 - [230] Edited by: Evan Batarr on 25/03/2010 12:59:40 Originally by: CCP Karuck This is an alpha version, we are still working on it. And yes, we do take security seriously and will patch any exploits as soon as they are found. Fixed it for you! And that's the 'best' you can offer. If it will work in reality - we'll see (I doubt it). Even MS isn't able to fix exploits as soon as they're found. Or if you think that's a bad example let's take mozilla foundation - the firefox devs take security very seriously and still Firefox has security exploits and it takes time to fix them when they're found. And most exploits are found when the harm is already done. And you REALLY think you can do better?? IMO you have already shown how 'serious' you take security. If you really did you would've never released an alpha using your users real data - even if it's 2 weeks old!

Christina Knight	Posted - 2010.03.25 13:10:00 - [231] Damn your funny its agame lol the characters dont exist and so dont have to conform to data protection lol. I assume maybe ya a spy and dont want certain friends knowing who your spying for etc. I think it adds another dimention to the game and makes spying a lot harder :)
Avalon Ranger Exitus Acta Probat manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.03.25 15:38:00 - [232] Internet Spaceships... Right! Now that we're all on the same page I'd like to request a few changes to the data shown and accessible via the API and EVE Gate. I have very few enemies and care little about my EVE privacy but I do think that giving your Current Location is causing the security concious to wonder what might happen with a missing semi-colon or bracket and what it might do to their 'private' data. The EVE client is considered secure by most as you, the Developers, have almost complete control over how it operate, the resources it utilises and the I/O from the client. When an update is to be released it's made in-house, tested and any major change is heavily tested. This is great however you are now working on a website which as you've already stated will not require us to do anything when an update is rolled out. This is great but it also means vital testing stages can be easily avoided or removed altogether. This can be a concern as when working with a live website (And I am sure you have an in-house version as well) it's a whole other ballgame. I personally trust CCP to do everything they can for security but I would also like a continued presence in the community once EVE Gate is released. It's nice to see so many developer replies but I fear that once v1.0 pops out the responses will slowly slope off until we're left with something similar to the Test Server Feedback which can at times feel like we're all running into walls. Currently there is no forum post, that I can find, with key development stages outlined. I know that in anyway development environment there is a LOT of paperwork to say what you propose, expected outcome, time frame and progress so far. I am not expecting to see a great deal more than there is on offer but involving those who are dedicated to giving their time to help you test, return their feedback and offer suggestions, well, those kind of people like to be kept roughly in the know. Security is always going to be an issue but a key feature of EVE Gate should not be that it's push onto people but that people have the choice of using it to expand their experience within this universe you've created. Functionally I propose an Opt-In feature. Until your first login your account has the default data displayable that searching in People and Places would return in-game. Their current location, wallet and all these other values should not be displayable (Even to the account holder for added security) unless they tick an option which says "Link my Character to EVE Gate" or something of the sort. Something that makes the user feel confident but understand that not everyone will want to use it. When new users ask "Why isn't it activated automatically?" it's easy enough to reply saying that this is an Optional feature that can enhance the game and you simply don't want to force it upon everyone that doesn't want to use it thus giving more resources to those that do. (Everyone likes to feel special) I hope I've outlined my thoughts on this. I look forward to hearing someone's response.
Dorky Porky	Posted - 2010.03.25 16:08:00 - [233] 1)You can drag and drop pictures into your Bio , as many as you like. They are treated as links and rendered after saving as pictures. Is this intended ? 2)"Fallout Project [HALO]" Allicance profile page is displayed wrongly. 3) No COMPOSE button when reading mail, just REPLY ? 4) If you drag&drop links to "broadcast" box then the default text is not removed and when submitting it is cleard and "no text sumbitted" error is shown. 5) And Starhunt seems to be very old corporation -> CORPORATION FOUNDED 0001.01.01 00:00 --- Used firefox 3.5.9
Issler Dainze Minmatar Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:19:00 - [234] So it looks like this is going to be that start of something great. Only complaint at this point knowing lots more is in queue is that our corp logo got really ugly. Is this going to get better? Isler
Kyra Felann Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:19:00 - [235] Originally by: Lykouleon You know...if you stopped whining about it and did a bug report, CCP might, you know, fix it for the actual final relase? Maybe? I'm pretty sure all he does is complain and act paranoid. Last I saw, he was saying the EVE font was responsible for making people blind.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:28:00 - [236] Originally by: Dorky Porky 1)You can drag and drop pictures into your Bio , as many as you like. They are treated as links and rendered after saving as pictures. Is this intended ? Absolutely not :) We fixed an issue with the WYSIWYG editor recently, which will go out with the next update. Originally by: Dorky Porky 2)"Fallout Project [HALO]" Allicance profile page is displayed wrongly. Thanks for finding this, I'll file a defect and find whats going on there. Originally by: Dorky Porky 3) No COMPOSE button when reading mail, just REPLY ? There is a Compose button when you are viewing your mailbox, why do you need one when viewing a single message as well? Originally by: Dorky Porky 4) If you drag&drop links to "broadcast" box then the default text is not removed and when submitting it is cleard and "no text sumbitted" error is shown. Very interesting, obviously we didn't try drag & drop enough :) Originally by: Dorky Porky 5) And Starhunt seems to be very old corporation -> CORPORATION FOUNDED 0001.01.01 00:00 Hmm.. this means the corp has no founding date in the database.. I'll check out why, and also fix the formatting of dates like this. All in all excellent feedback, thanks!


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:35:00 - [237] Originally by: equcin meey Edited by: equcin meey on 25/03/2010 11:35:42 Edited by: equcin meey on 25/03/2010 11:34:41 found that i am logged in when i used a page from my history list this should not happen as most other site's tell you that you need to login when veiwing an old page,maybe a time limit if you don't use it for awhile too like you have for this site. This is definitely a deliberate feature, you have to logoff manually if you want to close your session. Just think if you had to log into Facebook every time you opened it up. However, I think we should offer a checkbox for "Remember my login" so you can decide if you want your login persisted or not. Originally by: equcin meey just a cosmetic thing with the next page and prevous page buttons they seem to be abit small on a 1920 X 1080 HD screen. Yeah I agree the pager is a bit small on some pages. Originally by: equcin meey the corp logo's do look different well mine does look better now than in game,so you may want to give corp's a chance to improve their logo's as i have seen afew that i know of and they look worse on eve gate than in game and to be honest who doesn't want a good looking corp logo outside of the game too The corp logo graphic assets were all redone in higher resolution, so we can offer the logos in higher resolution with our new upcoming image server. Have you checked out how your corp logo looks ingame on Singularity right now?

Muestereate	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:56:00 - [238] Edited by: Muestereate on 25/03/2010 21:01:00 Originally by: Muestereate Can't seem to log in today, worked yesterday. Quote: Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. A required anti-forgery token was not supplied or was invalid. Just an update. I could get in today from my Firefox browser but not Chrome. Don't know if different cookies have been set by the new authentication system or what. When I get The previous error in Chrome it never asks for an additional verification of any sort like character name or whatnot. Just takes me straight to that error screen BUT it is on the character selection page as in, the option to relogin is not available but an option for character selection IS. So this error trapping is a bit off on THIS PAGE or the login page that dumped me to it. Here error screenshot jpgs the error page screenshot
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:58:00 - [239] Is there still the dreaded "72 hours before you can do anything" feature for new accounts?
Blue Harrier Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.25 23:26:00 - [240] This is some info for the Devs of EveGate. A few days ago I purchased a Nintendo DSi XL to relieve boredom while on long bus journeys (as an OAP I get free travel in the UK \o/). It comes with a built in WiFi connection and can use WPA PSK so can talk to my router just fine. Tonight as an experiment I tried connecting to Eveonline.com then to the EveGate test site and lo and behold both sites worked just fine. I was even able to log in to the EveGate site and check skill queues, email and contacts etc. All the menu options were displayed but the browser could not display any flash objects because itÆs not available to the DSi. Logging in was a bit hit and miss until I found the correct way to do it and shifting the display into split window mode made the whole experience much easier. It is not fast, taking up to 30 seconds to load a page, but it could be used to check a skill, send a quick mail etc if a computer was out of reach. Anyway just thought you would like to know, regards, BH


CCP Purple Tentacle	Posted - 2010.03.25 23:54:00 - [241] Edited by: CCP Purple Tentacle on 26/03/2010 00:00:19 Originally by: Issler Dainze So it looks like this is going to be that start of something great. Only complaint at this point knowing lots more is in queue is that our corp logo got really ugly. Is this going to get better? Issler, as far as I can tell, your logo is hit by the bug in our current corp image rendering code which is causing some really vivid colors here and there. We already have it fixed and the fix will roll out with the new sisi version next week. Apart of this fix we are not planning to make any more changes to the design of the new corp logos.

Coloumbia Voodoo Children Voodoo Tribes	Posted - 2010.03.26 05:40:00 - [242] here is an error i received after bouncing though my contacts at rapid speed Server Error in '/' Application. Runtime Error Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine. Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a <customErrors> tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This <customErrors> tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". <!-- Web.Config Configuration File --> <configuration> <system.web> <customErrors mode="Off"/> </system.web> </configuration> Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's <customErrors> configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL. <!-- Web.Config Configuration File --> <configuration> <system.web> <customErrors mode="RemoteOnly" defaultRedirect="mycustompage.htm"/> </system.web> </configuration>
Dorky Porky	Posted - 2010.03.26 08:10:00 - [243] Is there a scheduled maintenance going on ? As i see the error whatever i do for past 2 hours. But other points: 1) I saw a doublepost in my broadcast log. And i DID NOT enter that text twice. My internet connection was lagging a bit - so the it might have hit a resend timeout somewhere, but still it should not happen. The timestamp showed 10 seconds ( or so ) apart of those broadcasts. 2) All error message are the same at the moment : "Website Temporarily Down - EVE Gate is currently offline due to maintenance." Either you have not worked on error handling with proper commenting, which is very bad. Or you have masked it for the users, so they would not get too much developers info, which is good, but usless if you want good testing feedback.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.26 08:30:00 - [244] All errors are automatically logged, and yes Singularity is down atm. Expect it back in around 1 hour.

Dorky Porky	Posted - 2010.03.26 08:44:00 - [245] Edited by: Dorky Porky on 26/03/2010 08:44:14 Originally by: CCP Karuck All errors are automatically logged,... What does that mean ? Is it : 1) a system that automagically logs all errors from all users into some log file and then masks the error description for the user. ( Making the logs huge and almost unusable). 2) a system that automagically logs all errors from one user into unique file, with some relevant info, regarding the activities of that user, and timestapns and indexes that into a bigger error_event_log from all users, so later can be analyzed if that incident was localized or some gloabal problem. ( Making it lot more useful tool). Either way, generating unique error id and index for the user also to see, would be better. This way we can store extra info about what we did and all. And then if needed report that, so the problems can be debugged. c) And by the way - how big is the Contact list maximum size ? As i needed to "Trim the list" before adding new contants.
Dorky Porky	Posted - 2010.03.26 10:48:00 - [246] Edited by: Dorky Porky on 26/03/2010 10:49:34 Couple of more comments. Although not major problems. 1) The "remove" overlaps long the broadcast text only on "HOME" page 2) i got a error when trying to send mails to same person twice ( two instances of that person in the "TO:" - should be handled automagically and not shown as error to user error text: mail.Messages_Insert (line 62) >> Violation of PRIMARY KEY constraint 'PK_#702996c_ADF9199F7211DF33'.Cannot insert duplicate key in object 'dbo.@toCharIDs'. 3) @previous point, is the long character_list a primary key in database to my character ? This should not be seen as there might be a way for me to use it in a bad way. 4)If i send message to "!" ( without the quotes) then the mail is sent, and in SENT folder it can be seen and is transleted to "R.I.P" ( non-link). who is this guy ? 5)I can join 'empty' mailing lists - no input in the list name and just pressing "JOIN list" shows, that i have succcessfully subsribed to that. 6)There is a mailing list with name "!" ( without qoutes) - is this the RIP guy ? 7) It is very annoying how the "ADD RECIPIENT" window handles fast typing - it buffers all filtering inputs and then HOLDs the browser busy until it has processed them all ! If you type a letter and then delete it with backspce - and continue to do that quickly.
equcin meey Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.26 10:52:00 - [247] got qouted by CCP Karuck WooHoo YEAH (breath in....and release) Avalon Ranger was right Everyone likes to feel special Originally by: CCP Karuck This is definitely a deliberate feature, you have to logoff manually if you want to close your session. Just think if you had to log into Facebook every time you opened it up. However, I think we should offer a checkbox for "Remember my login" so you can decide if you want your login persisted or not. well i can't remember the last time i logged into facebook its been a long time since i've used it Originally by: CCP Karuck The corp logo graphic assets were all redone in higher resolution, so we can offer the logos in higher resolution with our new upcoming image server. Have you checked out how your corp logo looks ingame on Singularity right now? Damit! i knew i was forgetting to do something i'm installing the patch right now besides need to check out that planet stuff too
Erich Herrmann	Posted - 2010.03.26 11:23:00 - [248] Quote: Message not found The requested mail does not exist or is not yours. Concord has been notified, btw. I like :)
Dorky Porky	Posted - 2010.03.26 11:42:00 - [249] Just a bit more feedback: 1) nitpicking : when blocking unexisting chars the errors is shown as "please select to ADD" 2) With just two tabs the color choice for showing the seleceted one is bad for understanding which tab is actually selected - the dark as backroung or the light one ? 3)in Contacts: Filtering does not seem to work for "WATCHLIST". Feature/TODO# ? 4)in Contacts: all filters ticked is the same as no filters ticked - feature i guess ? 5)in Contacts: filters are not remembered if switching between different standings of contacts 6)in MANAGE_MAIL_LISE, Access tab: filter "▄█▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀" makes the tab not load up correctly, altough it does load nicely with other no_result filters. Proably bad_char thingy. 7)in MAIL : Currently in "ALL MAILS" tab, if i press "2" or ">" to go to the second page => it jumps to TRASH and shows no messages there. Altough there should be 6. Confirmed this with another character too, if i have 21 mails in ALL MAILS tab it does this.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.26 12:53:00 - [250] Originally by: Dorky Porky Edited by: Dorky Porky on 26/03/2010 11:55:49 Edited by: Dorky Porky on 26/03/2010 08:44:14 Originally by: CCP Karuck All errors are automatically logged,... What does that mean ? Is it : Currently our logs are all in one big database, but we have a few ways to trace sessions within that. We also have different levels of "errors" and the most important ones raise alerts. We can't show users detailed errors, and I hope the reason for that is obvious :) I believe we are even showing too much atm. We definitely want to expand on this for reporting purposes, and will look into that in the future.



CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.26 12:59:00 - [251] Originally by: Dorky Porky 1) The "remove" overlaps long the broadcast text only on "HOME" page Already working on a fix :) Originally by: Dorky Porky 2) i got a error when trying to send mails to same person twice ( two instances of that person in the "TO:" - should be handled automagically and not shown as error to user error text: mail.Messages_Insert (line 62) >> Violation of PRIMARY KEY constraint 'PK_#702996c_ADF9199F7211DF33'.Cannot insert duplicate key in object 'dbo.@toCharIDs'. 3) @previous point, is the long character_list a primary key in database to my character ? This should not be seen as there might be a way for me to use it in a bad way. This is indeed a defect, and so is showing you this detailed error :) Originally by: Dorky Porky 4)If i send message to "!" ( without the quotes) then the mail is sent, and in SENT folder it can be seen and is transleted to "R.I.P" ( non-link). who is this guy ? He's a very popular guy, people are sending him mail all the time! Joking aside this is a temporary name for deleted characters, but you are indeed pointing out a defect in our system :) Originally by: Dorky Porky 5)I can join 'empty' mailing lists - no input in the list name and just pressing "JOIN list" shows, that i have succcessfully subsribed to that. Seems we are lacking a bit in validation, we'll get that fixed :) Originally by: Dorky Porky 6)There is a mailing list with name "!" ( without qoutes) - is this the RIP guy ? Hehe no :) Originally by: Dorky Porky 7) It is very annoying how the "ADD RECIPIENT" window handles fast typing - it buffers all filtering inputs and then HOLDs the browser busy until it has processed them all ! If you type a letter and then delete it with backspce - and continue to do that quickly. We can improve on that :) Thanks for great feedback! hopefully you'll see the above issues resolved soon :)


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.26 13:01:00 - [252] Originally by: Erich Herrmann What I don't like is the inability to send messages to (read:spam) the alliance you're in from EVE Gate :( it lets me select the alliance in the 'To' field, but it doesn't appear in my alliance mailbox and then, when I check my sent items, it shows the 'To' field as empty. There is a bug in the "To" field in our mail system yeah, but you can send a mail to your alliance simply by putting in "alliance" in the to field. However remember that when we are done, not everyone will be able to send a mail to a whole alliance.


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.26 13:07:00 - [253] Originally by: Dorky Porky 1) nitpicking : when blocking unexisting chars the errors is shown as "please select to ADD" Where is this? We haven't actually implemented blocking on the web yet. Originally by: Dorky Porky 3)in Contacts: Filtering does not seem to work for "WATCHLIST". Feature/TODO# ? Definitely a bug. Originally by: Dorky Porky 4)in Contacts: all filters ticked is the same as no filters ticked - feature i guess ? Hmm interesting.. I'll take a look. Originally by: Dorky Porky 5)in Contacts: filters are not remembered if switching between different standings of contacts This is by design. Originally by: Dorky Porky 6)in MANAGE_MAIL_LISE, Access tab: filter "▄█▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀" makes the tab not load up correctly, altough it does load nicely with other no_result filters. Proably bad_char thingy. We still have a bit of work left on the mailing lists on the web. Originally by: Dorky Porky 7)in MAIL : Currently in "ALL MAILS" tab, if i press "2" or ">" to go to the second page => it jumps to TRASH and shows no messages there. Altough there should be 6. Confirmed this with another character too, if i have 21 mails in ALL MAILS tab it does this. Defect. Thanks! great findings :)

Dorky Porky	Posted - 2010.03.26 13:32:00 - [254] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Dorky Porky 1) nitpicking : when blocking unexisting chars the errors is shown as "please select to ADD" Where is this? We haven't actually implemented blocking on the web yet. ....<snip> Thanks! great findings :) It is in : MAIL -> List -> Manage -> "Access" tab -> click "Add list entry" , enter bogus character, choose "block" from radio buttons -> press "add list entry" altough i'm sure it is in the TODO list still. Other findings (As You keep saying this is good feedback): 1)in MAIL: When adding mailing list "GATE 'S God" as a recipiant to message via "Add Recipients" it is added as "GATE" and mail is sent to character : "GATE" - instead to the mailing_list 2)in MAIL: I can't UN-delete the message from TRASH 3)in MAIL: I can not permanently delete messages from TRASH (Reminder from last post ( maybe got overlooked) 4) "C C P Alliance" is also displayed in misshaped form, just has "Fallout Project (HALO)" was. X) When can we expect newer versions?

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.26 13:54:00 - [255] Originally by: Dorky Porky Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Dorky Porky 1) nitpicking : when blocking unexisting chars the errors is shown as "please select to ADD" Where is this? We haven't actually implemented blocking on the web yet. ....<snip> Thanks! great findings :) Originally by: Dorky Porky It is in : MAIL -> List -> Manage -> "Access" tab -> click "Add list entry" , enter bogus character, choose "block" from radio buttons -> press "add list entry" altough i'm sure it is in the TODO list still. Thanks :) and yeah, we are still working on the mailing list interfaces. Originally by: Dorky Porky 1)in MAIL: When adding mailing list "GATE 'S God" as a recipiant to message via "Add Recipients" it is added as "GATE" and mail is sent to character : "GATE" - instead to the mailing_list Hehe nice one, will fix :) Originally by: Dorky Porky 2)in MAIL: I can't UN-delete the message from TRASH Hmm.. this is indeed missing. Originally by: Dorky Porky 3)in MAIL: I can not permanently delete messages from TRASH You can, just delete it from the trash and you get a popup saying you are about to permanently delete the selected items. Originally by: Dorky Porky 4) "C C P Alliance" is also displayed in misshaped form, just has "Fallout Project (HALO)" was. Probably the same defect as the Fallour Project one. The alliance page shows ok to me, but probably since I'm in the alliance. Originally by: Dorky Porky X) When can we expect newer versions? We generally release once every 3 weeks, but do additional updates for critical stuff as needed. Next update will probably be around mid next week.

Watching	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:18:00 - [256] Edited by: Watching on 26/03/2010 17:24:34 disregard, already answered before
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.26 19:53:00 - [257] Edited by: Zeba on 26/03/2010 19:54:21 Update: Ps3 browser still having the exact same issue as stated on page 7. No change. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! CCP Shadow's Troll List.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.26 20:05:00 - [258] Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 26/03/2010 19:54:21 Update: Ps3 browser still having the exact same issue as stated on page 7. No change. It might be in CCP's best interest to post a list of "supported browsers" for testing. I get the feeling they don't expect it to run on the PS3 anyway
Aidan Patrick Zero Point Group	Posted - 2010.03.26 23:16:00 - [259] Ok first off I'm glad to see eve gate up and running. However, get rid of Twitter broadcasts!!!!!! I'm the most avid reader of dev blogs in my Corp, and I brought the beta to their attention. They all logged in, and then logged off the second they saw the Twitter broadcast system. Lose it, I hate it too. Instead, replace it with a blogging platform. ... Who the hell in their right mind is going to broadcast "I just mined an asteroid" or "I'm in jita fapping" other than that, awesome. - Aidan Patrick
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.27 13:36:00 - [260] Originally by: Aidan Patrick Ok first off I'm glad to see eve gate up and running. However, get rid of Twitter broadcasts!!!!!! I'm the most avid reader of dev blogs in my Corp, and I brought the beta to their attention. They all logged in, and then logged off the second they saw the Twitter broadcast system. Lose it, I hate it too. Instead, replace it with a blogging platform. ... Who the hell in their right mind is going to broadcast "I just mined an asteroid" or "I'm in jita fapping" other than that, awesome. To me, it's the only thing that makes Spacebook remotely interesting. And it's more like Buzz than Twitter. (Not that I use either. I hate Twitter and Google ****ed me off by making stupid mistakes at launch)

Alexios Kain Caldari Helion Production Labs N O V A	Posted - 2010.03.29 03:30:00 - [261] Seems pretty swell... However it won't let me log-in cause it says I am not active... But here I am logged into the game... "How many were there?... Which way did they go?... How fast were they going?... I MUST find them, I am their leader!"
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.29 08:14:00 - [262] so what are the next round of patching going to focus on fixing Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00
Tigobitty Caldari Continuity Holdings	Posted - 2010.03.29 14:02:00 - [263] Edited by: Tigobitty on 29/03/2010 14:05:31 ponders I havent searched this whole thread yet, but I cannot seem to log in for some reason. edit: Yeah.. ok.. so I missed the part about slowly increasing numbers of players allowed. sheepish grin That's probably whats going on. I was thrown by the incorrect password message. Oh... Shameless plug... Continuity Holdings is recruiting!
Catari Taga Centre Of Attention Rough Necks	Posted - 2010.03.29 14:19:00 - [264] I'm confused, I had deleted all my contacts recently (the only way to opt out), and now I got a couple of new contacts on EVEgate which seem to be related to people I may have added to my addressbook on Tranquility 3 days ago. But it's not all contacts, just 3 that magically appeared on EVE Gate which I thought was connected to SiSi. What's going on here?
Lumy Minmatar eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.03.29 18:03:00 - [265] Found possible permanent XSS attack vector . Bug report submitted (94035). <doomsayer mode="true">This could probably spread by EVE API to other servers. Time to start filtering incoming data I guess.</doomsayer> Joomla! in EVE - IGB compatible CMS.
Kathryn Dougans Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.30 18:30:00 - [266] will there be more than 300 entries allowed in contacts? Being a single mother is quite hard.
Lionel Redstar	Posted - 2010.03.31 09:16:00 - [267] Originally by: Catari Taga I'm confused, I had deleted all my contacts recently (the only way to opt out), and now I got a couple of new contacts on EVEgate which seem to be related to people I may have added to my addressbook on Tranquility 3 days ago. But it's not all contacts, just 3 that magically appeared on EVE Gate which I thought was connected to SiSi. What's going on here? I too got all my contacts back, including 2 "Disbanded alliance" which are actually 2 disbanded corporations that I cannot remove from evegate (worked last time from SISI).
Dorky Porky	Posted - 2010.03.31 12:19:00 - [268] Hi Glad to see that new version (0.8.0.209) is out. Some problems though, that you might have noted youself also. 1) I cannot compose any new mail ( either reply, compose, or "send message to char" ) - all of them is handled with "server is down for maintenance" error message. I guess there is a path error somewhere. 2)Long mailing_list names are not trunced in the listing of them in MAIL 3)While Managing mailing_lists, clicking ACESS or MEMBER for the first time adds unneccessary path to browser path bar. Does not breake anything, just messy. 4)Clicking "BLOCK" whilest viewing character gives standard unhandled error ("website is down for maintenance"). 5)But the status bar shows the link for BLoCK as "DeleteContact" - what is the difference then between "Block" and "Remove contanct" ? 6)And i still would like a "compose" button also while reading some mails. It is annoying having to press "inbox" again just to start new mail. Or use reply and then delete everything and start from scratch. It should be easy to add anyway. Z)Plus some issues with deleted contacts - i guess You did some more mirroring or rollbakcing on SISI and that created the confusion. I will take a look at contact deleting and stuff like that later.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.31 12:34:00 - [269] We are currently pushing out a new build and a new data mirror of TQ. Looks like we prematurely opened up the site until we were ready. Lots of stuff fixed and some more changes we'll announce here later today when we open again. Dorky Porky, please try these things out again when we are open for business later today. Most of them should be because of the upgrade phase.


CCP Priya	Posted - 2010.03.31 16:50:00 - [270] A new build of the EVE Gate Alpha is currently being deployed. All contact lists have been wiped from SISI so they won't show on EVE Gate or in the SISI client. We advise players who are concerned about security to change any positive standings towards characters that they don't wish to view their contact list. The default setting for all characters on your contact list is +10 standing and all characters that are set to +10 will be able to view your contact list.



CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.31 18:07:00 - [271] The new build is now up and running :)

Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.31 19:30:00 - [272] Update: Still the same issues as detailed on page 7 for the ps3 browser. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! CCP Shadow's Troll List.
Venus Felix	Posted - 2010.03.31 19:51:00 - [273] Originally by: CCP Priya A new build of the EVE Gate Alpha is currently being deployed. All contact lists have been wiped from SISI so they won't show on EVE Gate or in the SISI client. We advise players who are concerned about security to change any positive standings towards characters that they don't wish to view their contact list. The default setting for all characters on your contact list is +10 standing and all characters that are set to +10 will be able to view your contact list. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of "watch list" that would replace the current address book with very similar functionality? Also, how am I supposed to keep track of who I actually have personal standings to if it all gets overwritten by my address book?

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.31 20:06:00 - [274] Originally by: Zeba Update: Still the same issues as detailed on page 7 for the ps3 browser. Yes, we are still looking into that. Unfortunately the PS3 browser is.. kinda bad :( problems with CSS and Javascript for one.


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.31 20:08:00 - [275] Originally by: Venus Felix Originally by: CCP Priya A new build of the EVE Gate Alpha is currently being deployed. All contact lists have been wiped from SISI so they won't show on EVE Gate or in the SISI client. We advise players who are concerned about security to change any positive standings towards characters that they don't wish to view their contact list. The default setting for all characters on your contact list is +10 standing and all characters that are set to +10 will be able to view your contact list. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of "watch list" that would replace the current address book with very similar functionality? Also, how am I supposed to keep track of who I actually have personal standings to if it all gets overwritten by my address book? Your contacts = your address book = your standings, it's all the same system now.

Shaul Amaninatis Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.03.31 20:23:00 - [276] My contacts where all gone (hope this was intended). I had to create new contacts. When are we supposed to add entries into our calendars? Currently there is no button or link to do that :(
Casiella Truza Ecliptic Rift New Eden Research	Posted - 2010.03.31 21:06:00 - [277] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Venus Felix Originally by: CCP Priya A new build of the EVE Gate Alpha is currently being deployed. All contact lists have been wiped from SISI so they won't show on EVE Gate or in the SISI client. We advise players who are concerned about security to change any positive standings towards characters that they don't wish to view their contact list. The default setting for all characters on your contact list is +10 standing and all characters that are set to +10 will be able to view your contact list. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of "watch list" that would replace the current address book with very similar functionality? Also, how am I supposed to keep track of who I actually have personal standings to if it all gets overwritten by my address book? Your contacts = your address book = your standings, it's all the same system now. Yeah... wait, what? If I add someone to my address book, they get +10 standings? That can't possibly be right, I must be misunderstanding. Please correct me!

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.03.31 21:15:00 - [278] Originally by: Casiella Truza Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Venus Felix Originally by: CCP Priya A new build of the EVE Gate Alpha is currently being deployed. All contact lists have been wiped from SISI so they won't show on EVE Gate or in the SISI client. We advise players who are concerned about security to change any positive standings towards characters that they don't wish to view their contact list. The default setting for all characters on your contact list is +10 standing and all characters that are set to +10 will be able to view your contact list. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of "watch list" that would replace the current address book with very similar functionality? Also, how am I supposed to keep track of who I actually have personal standings to if it all gets overwritten by my address book? Your contacts = your address book = your standings, it's all the same system now. Yeah... wait, what? If I add someone to my address book, they get +10 standings? That can't possibly be right, I must be misunderstanding. Please correct me! Hehe no they wont :) If you want to see how the new address book works ingame, check out the Singularity test client.

Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.04.01 04:49:00 - [279] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Zeba Update: Still the same issues as detailed on page 7 for the ps3 browser. Yes, we are still looking into that. Unfortunately the PS3 browser is.. kinda bad :( problems with CSS and Javascript for one. Totally understand. =) Maybe now that you guys are on sonys developer list you can shoot them a mail asking for a tiny browser update to help with dust develpment. Though in all seriousness I will have a proper pc again soon so its not really an issue. Just giving ps3 feedback in as I have no other browser to use atm.. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! CCP Shadow's Troll List.
Venus Felix	Posted - 2010.04.01 08:59:00 - [280] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Venus Felix Originally by: CCP Priya A new build of the EVE Gate Alpha is currently being deployed. All contact lists have been wiped from SISI so they won't show on EVE Gate or in the SISI client. We advise players who are concerned about security to change any positive standings towards characters that they don't wish to view their contact list. The default setting for all characters on your contact list is +10 standing and all characters that are set to +10 will be able to view your contact list. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of "watch list" that would replace the current address book with very similar functionality? Also, how am I supposed to keep track of who I actually have personal standings to if it all gets overwritten by my address book? Your contacts = your address book = your standings, it's all the same system now. So before Tyrannis hits I have to remove all the contacts that I want to have neutral (or hostile) standings to and then after the patch I have to add them manually to my watch list? This seems incredibly stupid...


CCP Priya	Posted - 2010.04.01 10:26:00 - [281] Edited by: CCP Priya on 01/04/2010 10:26:04 Originally by: Venus Felix Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Venus Felix [ Originally by: CCP Priya Edited by: CCP Priya on 01/04/2010 01:55:44 A new build of the EVE Gate Alpha is currently being deployed. All contact lists have been wiped from SISI so they won't show on EVE Gate or in the SISI client. We advise players who are concerned about security to change any positive standings towards characters that they don't wish to view their contact list. Currently only contacts you have set +10 standings to can view your full profile and contact list. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of "watch list" that would replace the current address book with very similar functionality? Also, how am I supposed to keep track of who I actually have personal standings to if it all gets overwritten by my address book? Your contacts = your address book = your standings, it's all the same system now. So before Tyrannis hits I have to remove all the contacts that I want to have neutral (or hostile) standings to and then after the patch I have to add them manually to my watch list? This seems incredibly stupid... To clarify: When we release on TQ your address book will become your contact list and all personal standings you have set towards other characters, corporations and alliances will be retained. Currently only characters you have set +10 standings to will be able to see your contact list and broadcasts, but you will be able to change this setting easily once we implement the privacy settings options.

Watching	Posted - 2010.04.01 10:28:00 - [282] Undelete puts the mail back into the inbox, which is OK I guess. But I cannot find a way to clean up the inbox without deleting the mails. Why is there no action 'Move to <label>'? I'm one of those ppl who like to keep the inbox empty so I can easily see when new mail needs my attention.
ULTImatio	Posted - 2010.04.01 10:48:00 - [283] The NEW People & Places / Contacts List http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=735 CCP WE NEED FOLDERS. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1275317&page=9 I just tested some things on the Test Client and I did not like what I have seen. I see a really big mountain of frustrations coming on for me handling my contact list. The point is, you simply canÆt organise the contact list based on standings. I myself have a contact list of 436 pilots, and I sorted them all in folders. The only standing I ever changed in game was to set my own Alts to standing 10. I use Folders for: * Friends (can have any standing from 10 to -10) * Non-Friends (can have any standing from 0 to -10) * Alts (can have any standing from 10 to -10) * Friently Corps (can have any standing from 0 to 10) * War Target Corps (can have any standing from 0 to -10) * Non-Friendly Corps (can have any standing from 0 to -10) * Posible Recruits (can have any standing from 0 to 10) Now if you take all these pilots and throw them all on a big pile of standings then you mess-up my contact list BIG-Time. CCP please; 1. Give us our good old folder creation option back. 2. Make it so that we can set entire folders to the Watch List. Or we all get really frustrated when you introduce this new contact list setup. NOW I need all you pilots to back me up on thisà So let me and CCP know how you all think about this. Am I the only one that tries to prevent the upcoming HELL in EVE, we call the new Standings-Based-Contact-List, or am I the only one that sees it coming? Just to make sure I get support for this or you all going to die in the next war because you forgot to move every single pilot of a 150 member Corp from the Main Contact List to the Watch List. NOTE: You need to set every single pilot of the 150 member Corp to the Watch List manually. PS: If we donÆt get folders, then you have a very hard time finding the 150 WT pilots among the 500 contacts in your Main Contact List.
Commander Phoenix The Space Force	Posted - 2010.04.01 15:15:00 - [284] In EVEGate my corporation logo displays wrong. Is this a known thing or should I report it as a bug? ---------------------------- -It's a big rock. Can't wait to tell my friends. They don't have a rock this big.
Kathryn Dougans Amarr	Posted - 2010.04.01 17:24:00 - [285] So, will there be a limit on the number of contacts you can have? Being a single mother is quite hard.
ULTImatio	Posted - 2010.04.02 09:32:00 - [286] Well the only thing I suggest is that only the (All Contacts) list should hold an option to make folders in that same list so you can sort all your contacts. NOTE: I donÆt have any issues with the new standing system. I only find that the folder creation option is missing.
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.04.02 09:38:00 - [287] Originally by: ULTImatio CCP WE NEED FOLDERS. Wait, there's no contact folders besides the useless by-standings things? I knew there'd be something I didn't like about this expansion. I have lists of WTs, lists of potential WTs, lists of former WTs, lists of WT corp-jumpers.... Damnit.
Catari Taga Centre Of Attention Rough Necks	Posted - 2010.04.02 23:00:00 - [288] Originally by: ULTImatio Am I the only one that tries to prevent the upcoming HELL in EVE, we call the new Standings-Based-Contact-List, or am I the only one that sees it coming? The reason for that is EVE Gate, since folders are stored client side EVE Gate would not know about your folders. So CCP apparently decided to remove them from the client as well. But what do you expect? CCP just cannot do any reasonable user interface (see what they do for planetary interaction). Or maybe they just like the really bad ones (they clearly are good at them). The contacts list on SiSi is unusable for all practical purposes.
ULTImatio	Posted - 2010.04.03 07:40:00 - [289] EVE-Gate is fine by me as it is, as long as we have folders in game to sort our contacts by.
Dorky Porky	Posted - 2010.04.03 12:08:00 - [290] Edited by: Dorky Porky on 03/04/2010 12:12:27 Edited by: Dorky Porky on 03/04/2010 12:09:37 Hi Taking a look at the new version (0.8.0.209): Unixed stuff from Previous posts: 1)Long mailing_list names are not trunced in the listing of them in MAIL 2)While Managing mailing_lists, clicking ACESS or MEMBER for the first time adds unneccessary path to browser path bar. Does not breake anything, just messy. 3)While Managing mailing_lists, clicking ACESS or MEMBER for the first time adds unneccessary path to browser path bar. Does not breake anything, just messy. 4)Clicking "BLOCK" whilest viewing character gives standard unhandled error ("website is down for maintenance"). 5) mailing list with name "!" (without quotes) still exists, though this is minor problem. New stuff: 6)Long mailing_list names break the view in "Add Recipients" window 7) Possible XSS problem, in MAIL as TO address : <?> ' ! <a href="www.google.com">iiik</a> The html tags are processed as html. I could add javascript, etc stuff there and then legal steps would follow in my direction... 8)in MAIL: When deleting all mails from last (e.g. 2nd) page it does not automatically go to previous page, but shows empty list. 9) When drag&drop is the first action to the broadcast field then no matter what you do afterwards - it is disregarded. Wishlist: a)And i still would like a "compose" button also while reading some mails. It is annoying having to press "inbox" again just to start new mail. Or use reply and then delete everything and start from scratch. It should be easy to add anyway. b) Contact FOLDERS, this is absolutely neccessary. And then show the folder name when person from watchlist logs in. ( e.g. "titan-pilots: xxx-pilot_name-xxx" with the avatar ) c) With just two tabs the color choice for showing the seleceted one is bad for understanding which tab is actually selected - the dark as backroung or the light one ? For example in Manage mail_list ,tabs like "Access" and "Members" Could it be that the tab which is selected is connected to the overall frame, so that it is not seperated like the tab which is not selected. Questions: *)The status bar shows the link for BLOCK as "DeleteContact" - what is the planned difference between "Block" and "Remove contanct" ? Edit: clarification & spelling.

Catari Taga Centre Of Attention Rough Necks	Posted - 2010.04.03 13:52:00 - [291] Originally by: Dorky Porky b) Contact FOLDERS, this is absolutely neccessary. And then show the folder name when person from watchlist logs in. ( e.g. "titan-pilots: xxx-pilot_name-xxx" with the avatar ) Would very much like this. Also I would like to have an option where watchlist notifications are shown and how long they remain visible.
ULTImatio	Posted - 2010.04.06 08:06:00 - [292] WhatÆs happening CCP, on the we all getting our folders back side of things. We all know the, Tyrannis is Coming May 18TH, Countdown is counting and we need our folders.
BenjaminBarker	Posted - 2010.04.06 14:13:00 - [293] Search for your corp and open their profile. Two 'Add Contact' links on the left. Once added, you still have an 'Add Contact' link (which does nothing) as well as the remove/edit standings links. Only seems to happen on your current corp.
Myxx Gallente Daughters of Venus Reborn	Posted - 2010.04.06 16:18:00 - [294] is a new mirror up yet? Still getting the 'user is not active' stuff. and, if it helps any, I got rid of that annyoing line in my sig.

CCP Gangleri Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:17:00 - [295] Originally by: Myxx is a new mirror up yet? Still getting the 'user is not active' stuff. You can post in this thread to get your test server account re-activated. For general info on Sisi see this thread, the mirror dates are not always correct but the rest of the info is pretty solid. ------------------ Tester, Scrum Master Quality Assurance


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:56:00 - [296] Originally by: Commander Phoenix In EVEGate my corporation logo displays wrong. Is this a known thing or should I report it as a bug? Can you elaborate on that? Have you tried how it looks in the new client on Singularity? we are chaning the corp logos in this release, but there was at least one rendering bug I think we already fixed. Originally by: Dorky Porky 1)Long mailing_list names are not trunced in the listing of them in MAIL Noted. Originally by: Dorky Porky 2)While Managing mailing_lists, clicking ACESS or MEMBER for the first time adds unneccessary path to browser path bar. Does not breake anything, just messy. 3)While Managing mailing_lists, clicking ACESS or MEMBER for the first time adds unneccessary path to browser path bar. Does not breake anything, just messy. The mailing list management interface is still in development and we are currently focusing on other areas. However I filed a defect on this, thanks :) Originally by: Dorky Porky 4)Clicking "BLOCK" whilest viewing character gives standard unhandled error ("website is down for maintenance"). Yeah that feature isn't implemented yet, but it certainly shouldn't be giving you an error. Originally by: Dorky Porky 5) mailing list with name "!" (without quotes) still exists, though this is minor problem. I'm not too worried about that, but at least you can't create any new ones (just try to create a list called "!!"). Originally by: Dorky Porky 6)Long mailing_list names break the view in "Add Recipients" window Good find, noted :) Originally by: Dorky Porky 7) Possible XSS problem, in MAIL as TO address : <?> ' ! <a href="www.google.com">iiik</a> The html tags are processed as html. I could add javascript, etc stuff there and then legal steps would follow in my direction... Nice one :) But this is a minor issue since the unencoded error is only shown back to yourself. But I'll file a defect on this. Originally by: Dorky Porky 8)in MAIL: When deleting all mails from last (e.g. 2nd) page it does not automatically go to previous page, but shows empty list. Yeah it should popup up to the previous page, I'll get that sorted. Originally by: Dorky Porky 9) When drag&drop is the first action to the broadcast field then no matter what you do afterwards - it is disregarded. Yeah we know about that one, it's already in our bug list. Originally by: Dorky Porky 10) I did not get "notification" if i was added as a contacnt and notification was sent. Where and how should it appear ? We are still working on the contact notifications. Currently the web is missing a UI for this, and we have a defect on it as well. When we are finished you will be able to see the notification both on the web and in the client. Originally by: Dorky Porky 11)STARHUNT corporation has been member of HALO longer then it existed: PREVIOUS ALLIANCE(S) - Fallout Project [HALO] from 0001.01.01 00:00 to 2008.12.24 19:39. Hmm another one of those :) defect filed, thanks. Originally by: Dorky Porky 12) ALL CHATTER - Broadcasts are not autoupdated - thus i cannot see any new broadcasts from my contacs/firends/corp unless i manually reload - annoying. This is the way it will work for the first release. We will look at automatically polling and alerting you of new stuff in future releases of EVE Gate. Originally by: Dorky Porky 13) Friend of mine tried to select char after successful login, but was repoted that "website is down for maintenance". Trying with another char on the same account, he got in. Something fishy somewhere. Though a bit later he got in with no problems - is this the "SOLAR SYSTEM LOADING please try again" issue with nodes coming up the first time ? Can you send me the name of that character? just send it to me via EVE mail on EVE Gate if you want. There are no "Solar system loading" problems in EVE Gate btw.


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:56:00 - [297] Originally by: Dorky Porky 14) Currently you cannot get full member list for corporation ingame. But you can from eveGate. This is somewhat security hole. (for paranoid people) This only shows members in your own corporation, not other corps. This is also being added as a new tab in the client as well, I believe it's already in the latest builds in Singularity. Originally by: Dorky Porky a)And i still would like a "compose" button also while reading some mails. It is annoying having to press "inbox" again just to start new mail. Or use reply and then delete everything and start from scratch. It should be easy to add anyway. I can't promise anything, but I'll run this by our usability guy. Originally by: Dorky Porky b) Contact FOLDERS, this is absolutely neccessary. And then show the folder name when person from watchlist logs in. ( e.g. "titan-pilots: xxx-pilot_name-xxx" with the avatar ) We know that people want this :) Originally by: Dorky Porky c) With just two tabs the color choice for showing the seleceted one is bad for understanding which tab is actually selected - the dark as backroung or the light one ? For example in Manage mail_list ,tabs like "Access" and "Members" Could it be that the tab which is selected is connected to the overall frame, so that it is not seperated like the tab which is not selected. I'll ask our usability/UI guy. Originally by: Dorky Porky )The status bar shows the link for BLOCK as "DeleteContact" - what is the planned difference between "Block" and "Remove contanct" ? This is a defect, it should link to DeleteContact. We haven't implemented Block on EVE Gate yet. Originally by:* Dorky Porky ) How much other people posts should i be able to remove from CHATTER ? I can delete comments to my posts from other users. seems ok. I can delete broadcasts from other people to me (done via profile page) - ok. Actually seems ok. Yes, working as intended :) You can delete your own posts and posts that other people make on your wall, and comments you create and others make on your posts. Originally by:* BenjaminBarker Search for your corp and open their profile. Two 'Add Contact' links on the left. Once added, you still have an 'Add Contact' link (which does nothing) as well as the remove/edit standings links. Only seems to happen on your current corp. Excellent find, a small regressions that slipped into our last release. Already fixed this in our internal builds.

Orephia	Posted - 2010.04.07 14:51:00 - [298] Edited by: Orephia on 07/04/2010 14:52:23 Edited by: Orephia on 07/04/2010 14:51:36 Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Dorky Porky Contact FOLDERS, this is absolutely neccessary We know that people want this :) Do you know that sub-folders for bookmarks would also be extremely well received? As long as you're in People & places... tyvm
ULTImatio	Posted - 2010.04.08 07:41:00 - [299] Edited by: ULTImatio on 08/04/2010 07:43:41 Yup, Subfolders for bookmarks makes our total list of bookmark folders a lot shorter. Here is example: I have bookmarks grouped by system for. Arnon * System * Station * Gate * Safe Spot * Deep Safe And I have this for every system I am active in.
Catari Taga Centre Of Attention Rough Necks	Posted - 2010.04.09 11:06:00 - [300] Originally by: CCP Karuck our usability/UI guy. Nice one, a bit late for April 1st but I nearly fell for it.

Taua Roqa Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.04.14 21:38:00 - [301] Edited by: Taua Roqa on 14/04/2010 21:38:33 aww i thought i could plague people with my babble in ingame chat channels from my browser :( still nice job CCP, looks very useful, especially the oog mail client!
Ephemeral Waves Silver Snake Enterprise	Posted - 2010.04.17 13:12:00 - [302] Originally by: CCP Rhayger Our design is to have almost all of that stuff configurable by you guys in an account settings page so you can decide what you do and do not want to show for yourself (with defaults being set to very safe levels). We just don't have that page done yet, it's tasked for sprint 4 (we're in early sprint 3). We're rolling out a new build now that we will deploy shortly and we will continue to address anything that pops up promptly. Remember the intent of the test is to beat up the hardware, but obviously we don't want incomplete features exposing any info you want to keep private. The feedback has been invaluable and we really appreciate it. How do we completely opt-out of this thing?

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.04.19 15:30:00 - [303] EVE Gate is back up. Not a new build but fresh data mirror from TQ from last week. Contacts were wiped like last time.

Shaul Amaninatis Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.04.20 17:42:00 - [304] When can we expect a new build with fresh features? And have you considered to implement some kind of notification service like a personalised RSS feed for every account? That would be awesome because I could stay up to date simply by using an RSS feed reader. That would bring together the Dev Blog feed, the Eve news feed and the personalised RSS feeds for my accounts in one application (the RSS feed reader)... IMHO: pure win

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.04.20 20:34:00 - [305] Originally by: Shaul Amaninatis When can we expect a new build with fresh features? And have you considered to implement some kind of notification service like a personalised RSS feed for every account? That would be awesome because I could stay up to date simply by using an RSS feed reader. That would bring together the Dev Blog feed, the Eve news feed and the personalised RSS feeds for my accounts in one application (the RSS feed reader)... IMHO: pure win There will be a shiny new build next week, we'll announce the exact date in an upcoming devblog. What kind of information would you like to be in that RSS feed? We already have RSS feeds for all the news stuff, and I think the longterm plan is to use the API for anything game related.

Shaul Amaninatis Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.04.20 21:11:00 - [306] I thought at least about notifications on received emails new notifications or upcoming events Every RSS message could then contain a convenient link to Eve Gate. One click later I could log into EVE Gate and.... profit I do understand that CCP puts a lot of effort into the API and I really appreciate that. But the EVE API requires specialised tools. An RSS feed would just integrate much better in my existing internet tool chain.
Helios Black Ivy League	Posted - 2010.04.26 15:35:00 - [307] After reading the posts here and the EVE Gate website, I was under the impression that you will be able to add and remove skills from the skill queue through EVE Gate, but after reading an article on IGN it says you won't be able to. When Tyrannis launches on May 18, will we be able to change our skill queue through EVE Gate outside of the EVE itself?

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.04.26 20:05:00 - [308] Originally by: Helios Black After reading the posts here and the EVE Gate website, I was under the impression that you will be able to add and remove skills from the skill queue through EVE Gate, but after reading an article on IGN it says you won't be able to. When Tyrannis launches on May 18, will we be able to change our skill queue through EVE Gate outside of the EVE itself? No, that functionality is not part of the first version, but viewing your skill list and queue certainly is. However, it's quite high on our things to add, and we will keep working on EVE Gate after the first release.

Shaul Amaninatis Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.04.26 22:26:00 - [309] Originally by: CCP Karuck Originally by: Helios Black After reading the posts here and the EVE Gate website, I was under the impression that you will be able to add and remove skills from the skill queue through EVE Gate, but after reading an article on IGN it says you won't be able to. When Tyrannis launches on May 18, will we be able to change our skill queue through EVE Gate outside of the EVE itself? No, that functionality is not part of the first version, but viewing your skill list and queue certainly is. However, it's quite high on our things to add, and we will keep working on EVE Gate after the first release. This would be awesome! So CCP changed its mind? Because in past dev blogs (about the skill queue) CCP stated that they want people to actually login to the game to change skills... Nice to see, that you relaxed your policy.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.04.27 15:07:00 - [310] New build of EVE Gate is up and open for public testing.


Blue Harrier Gallente	Posted - 2010.04.27 15:11:00 - [311] Anyone else have problems logging in to Evegate? All I get when I try and log in is 'You do not have the required privileges to log in', yet I can log in fine both to this site, TQ and SiSi. I've tried with both IE8 and Firefox to see if it was a browser problem but I get the same with both. Anyone any idea what could be causing the problem?
Blue Harrier Gallente	Posted - 2010.04.27 15:19:00 - [312] Daft 5 min timer I would have posted this 5 min ago if it had let me but I must have just caught the changeover, all is working now .
Shaul Amaninatis Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.04.27 18:30:00 - [313] I can't log in. All I get is: Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request. I can still log off. But repeated attempts to login all failed.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.04.27 19:07:00 - [314] Yeah we had a slight hiccup. It will be back up later today.

ULTImatio	Posted - 2010.04.28 07:38:00 - [315] Yup, EVE-Gate is still down, dam I wanted to check on the process. * * * When can we expect contact folders to order our full contact list? * * * NOTE: I keep repeating this request over and over until 18th may when it will be too late and we all in big trouble. At least no one can blame me for not pointing it out.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.04.28 08:54:00 - [316] Originally by: ULTImatio Yup, EVE-Gate is still down, dam I wanted to check on the process. * * * When can we expect contact folders to order our full contact list? * * * NOTE: I keep repeating this request over and over until 18th may when it will be too late and we all in big trouble. At least no one can blame me for not pointing it out. Right now it's just the normal daily downtime for Singularity, check back in an hour or so. I've already answered that we plan to do contact folders/labels, but unfortunately that will be after the first release.

ULTImatio	Posted - 2010.04.28 09:32:00 - [317] Thanks for the heads up warning on the we not getting any folders. I will now go and backup all my contacts to a text file. Just in case I forget which ones where the good dudes, bad dudes, friendly dudes, hostiles dudes and the alts from al the dudes.
Shaul Amaninatis Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.04.29 20:18:00 - [318] Today I created the first event in my calendar. But Eve Gate has put two absolutely identical events into my calendar. Also the event for the Tyrannis release appears twice under "Upcoming Events".
lost soel Caldari Double twin Dragon Technology	Posted - 2010.05.02 22:38:00 - [319] yea if it is up for us to check it out, so where is it? [url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=lost%20soel][/
Valeronx Celestial Horizon Corp. United Corporate Ventures	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:06:00 - [320] Originally by: lost soel yea if it is up for us to check it out, so where is it? I think it's shy, hiding maybe. .


CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.05.12 17:11:00 - [321] The URL has already been stated many times in this thread and in the original post: https://test.evegate.com/ This close to release we've been updating EVE Gate on the test server very frequently.

Shaul Amaninatis Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:15:00 - [322] Edited by: Shaul Amaninatis on 12/05/2010 18:16:57 I can't login (again)... Edit: Eve Gate magically healed itself.

CCP Karuck	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:59:00 - [323] Yes it's a bit up and down since we are doing frequent updates. But it's not long until we launch EVE Gate on the live cluster :)

Frug Omega Wing	Posted - 2010.05.27 20:21:00 - [324] Originally by: CCP Karuck I've already answered that we plan to do contact folders/labels, but unfortunately that will be after the first release. Whoever made the call to release this 'feature improvement' before giving us folders made an absolutely stupid decision and needs to no longer make decisions. Currently the system is worse than it was. Corp-wide lists are nice, but everything else about this change is trash and has seriously inconvenienced many, many people. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor


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