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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.04.11 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ghost Nightmare
Id call you on the Cynabal nonsense you spouted, but everyone else seemed to do that. (last time i checked, Cynabals where 300 mil considering that a Vaga is more like 100 spending 3 times as much for the bonuses it gets seems fair.
I dont know where you buy your ships, but Vagabonds are going for about 120mill, while Cynabals go for like 140-150mill. Not 300mill.
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Ghost Nightmare
Sons of Damnation MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.04.11 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: Ghost Nightmare
derp
derp
on tranq right now its 200mil (all regions), im man enough to admit i was mistaken :P still far more than a Vagabond
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Proxyyyy
Caldari The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards
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Posted - 2010.04.11 18:06:00 -
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I believed that the scram changes realy ****ed ceptors. I wouldnt mind them not being affected by the whole (OMFG MY MWD HAS C****D OUT). Making them immune to the effects of warp scramblers would make them pretty intresting... Hmmm maybe even overpowered?
Btw screw you! My crow is freaking AWSOME!!!!!!!
Also eve-arena sucks ballz. Its just a new battleclinic wtih a sweet UI. Also the whole problem with the killboards are these arbitrary formula's that some lame loser who decideds what killz are suppose to be better than others. Btw that way of thinking only caters towards solo pvp'ers (Which i am) and since thats the case. **** that sh!t. Just stick to efficiency and total amount of ships destroyed. If dudes like to blob, fine do that sh!t and enjoy it. If they like to do small gang only, fine do that sh!t and enjoy it.
If you must do the whole arbitrary points value thing. It should only correlate to a specific pilots preformance and not a corp or alliance. If a corp is blobing the hell out of stuff and doing alot of damage isk wise, then i believe that is a good corp (As a whole). There preformance reflects on the corp as a whole and not on a individual pilot, where i believe a arbitrary formula should only be used.
I do like the fact it shows the most active pilots for the last 1 - 6 months i think?
As far as the whole cynabal being way better than the vagabond thing. I dont believe that to be true. The preformance of the stabber fleet issue, vagabond and cynabal are very similar. Plus! Alot of vagabond pilots are to busy runing away from a cynabal to realy test how that fight would realy go down. Butz i recently been given a cynabal for free from a broski and it seems fun.
As for nerfing the drameil, i dont care if it goes or stays tbh. Its a badass looking ship that hurts alot of feelings, and their is no doubt its a pirate ship. I mean look at all the tears and whining it causes = )
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.11 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Seriously Bored
Witchcraft! It's a witch! Burn it at the stake! (How the hell do you do that?)
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.11 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 11/04/2010 18:54:12 Also, interceptors got screwed by scram changes how? If I remember correctly, before scramblers shutting off MWD was introduced, old webs would not only slow you down to a crawl but also retain your huge sig radius, a win/win combination for survival. I used to go ceptor hunting in a Hurricane in the old days 
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Bibbleibble
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Posted - 2010.04.11 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Seriously Bored
Witchcraft! It's a witch! Burn it at the stake! (How the hell do you do that?)
I see you have not trained Forum Warfare V.
Hint For the Clueless: Log out and back in.
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.11 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Bibbleibble
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Giving out the secrets of the forum warrior for free. Shameful.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.04.11 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Suitonia on 11/04/2010 20:21:44 The Scram changes (and web nerf) were a huge buff for interceptors that engage in web range. QR made them much more viable.
For those of you who don't understand traversal.
Lets say I have a Taranis and I engage a Hurricane, we both start 500m apart from eachother, which is the best scenario for me. Hurricane, webs me, and I web him, he turns on his MWD and burns in a random direction, he is now faster than me, and eventually, he gets far enough away that his autocannons track me, I die. I can turn on my MWD to become faster than him to counteract this, however, being in web range with now a cruiser signature radius, I die.
Now I can tackle a hurricane at 500m in my dual prop ranis, and have a reasonable chance of success. A dual neut hurricane with a web and warriors will probably kill me (maybe hurricane wasn't the best example), but I can avoid all the damage from his guns while I am alive and have him scrammed.
Another interceptor buff that was introduced in QR was their sig radius reduction bonus was changed, it used to be a flat 5% sig reduction per level, which still resulted in 120+ sig radius when you had interceptor 5 on most interceptors. My Ares/Taranis now has about 60m less signiture radius than it did have with mwd on. I used to be able to be tracked by a Hurricane with 220's mwding away from me, while I was going 6km/s easily. Now the same hurricane cannot track me at 4km/s.
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.11 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 11/04/2010 20:31:37
Originally by: Suitonia The Scram changes (and web nerf) were a huge buff for interceptors that engage in web range. QR made them much more viable.
For those of you who don't understand traversal.
Lets say I have a Taranis, we both start 500m apart from eachother, which is the best scenario for me. Hurricane, webs me, and I web him, he turns on his MWD and burns in a random direction, he is now faster than me, and eventually, he gets far enough away that his autocannons track me, I die. I can turn on my MWD to become faster than him to counteract this, however, being in web range with now a cruiser signature radius, I die.
Now I can tackle a hurricane at 500m in my dual prop ranis, and have a reasonable chance of success. A dual neut hurricane with a web and warriors will probably kill me (maybe hurricane wasn't the best example), but I can avoid all the damage from his guns while I am alive and have him scrammed.
Another interceptor buff that was introduced in QR was their sig radius reduction bonus was changed, it used to be a flat 5% sig reduction per level, which still resulted in 120+ sig radius when you had interceptor 5 on most interceptors. My Ares/Taranis now has about 60m less signiture radius than it did have with mwd on. I used to be able to be tracked by a Hurricane with 220's mwding away from me, while I was going 6km/s easily. Now the same hurricane cannot track me at 4km/s.
This should be stickied somewhere.
QR was a massive buff for (not the really pimped ones) interceptors in general and a huge buff for anything short range + frig sized.
You could often kill the not so awesomely flown / skilled interceptors before they could get to disengage in a falloff rigged Hurricane. Now you can drive them off reasonably reliable in a dual-TE fit, but it's safer to tackle then it used to be by miles, and you can fly a non-fail interceptor on the cheap.
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Proxyyyy
Caldari The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards
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Posted - 2010.04.11 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 11/04/2010 18:54:12 Also, interceptors got screwed by scram changes how? If I remember correctly, before scramblers shutting off MWD was introduced, old webs would not only slow you down to a crawl but also retain your huge sig radius, a win/win combination for survival. I used to go ceptor hunting in a Hurricane in the old days 
True! 90% web was a biatch!!!!!!!!
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Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.04.11 23:31:00 -
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Proxyyyy, you are such a terrible poster and understand nothing of EVE mechanics. ____________ Intigo - go visit www.eve-arena.com for the best Battleclinic killboard replacement yet! |

Proxyyyy
Caldari The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards
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Posted - 2010.04.12 01:05:00 -
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Spaceships...
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Shaitis
Caldari Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mahke Edited by: Mahke on 09/04/2010 21:25:34
Originally by: Faffywaffy I am one of the best interceptor pilots in Eve. I have a lot of experience flying them both solo and in fleets, fulfilling all kinds of roles. Check the killboard(s).
I am one of the best forum pilots in Eve. I have lots of experience posting both solo and in fleets, fulfilling all kinds of roles (except logging in). Check the board(s).
edit: derf nramiel
Faffywaffy is actually good, I fought with and vs him and I know who he is, and who are you ?
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.04.12 10:37:00 -
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I'm pretty sure he is just trolling. ---
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Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.04.12 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shaitis
Originally by: Mahke Edited by: Mahke on 09/04/2010 21:25:34
Originally by: Faffywaffy I am one of the best interceptor pilots in Eve. I have a lot of experience flying them both solo and in fleets, fulfilling all kinds of roles. Check the killboard(s).
I am one of the best forum pilots in Eve. I have lots of experience posting both solo and in fleets, fulfilling all kinds of roles (except logging in). Check the board(s).
edit: derf nramiel
Faffywaffy is actually good, I fought with and vs him and I know who he is, and who are you ?
Wow. You're not the sharpest knife in the cabinet, are you? ____________ Intigo - go visit www.eve-arena.com for the best Battleclinic killboard replacement yet! |

Mrs Management
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Posted - 2010.04.12 11:46:00 -
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To fix Interceptors they need to change Neuts to sig size based effect.
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.12 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 12/04/2010 13:51:09
Originally by: Mrs Management To fix Interceptors they need to change Neuts to sig size based effect.
Interceptors are not broken, and should not have a free card to kill everything regardless if counterfit or no. There also exists the tackle interceptor which has a bonus to disruptor range enabling it to exceed any non-faction/officer neut range.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.04.13 11:50:00 -
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The only interceptor that needs fixing is the Raptor. (Crow/Malediction needs rockets to not suck, but thats a weapon problem, the hull itself is fine). |
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