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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Aaron on 21/04/2010 15:55:33 Edited by: Aaron on 21/04/2010 15:54:08 Hello,
Im sure lots of you know who I am.
NRDS is a really cool concept, I wanted to discuss what will become of the NRDS attitude, will it fade away or will it rise once again. NBSI seems to be winning the battle at the moment with Providence falling, my project Hub Zero also fell.
I wanted to get ideas flowing on how to combat NBSI in this game, id like to view this thread as a meeting point for people that have strong opinions on NRDS. I myself will always be NRDS.
I guess the main objective is to get a consortium going, which id enjoy being a part of, I feel NRDS has to re-invent itself, and perhaps focusing more on fleet warfare and PVP. its apparent NRDS dudes dont have that killer instinct which in my opinion is a requirement for NRDS.
Im very enthusiastic about forming a channel, and perhaps elements of CVA could head this up. it appears whatever we do we will have to start from the ground upward and rebuild everything.
I really feel there is somthing here worth investigating. Im prepared to devote my entire eve existance to this.
Ok, so lets get this thread started, I would please ask that we keep trolling to a minimum, I really dont mind a bit of good natured teasing, try not to disparage anyone, lets be adult about it, and ultimatley have some fun.
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Dianeces
SiN. Corp Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
Im sure lots of you know who I am.
Nobody knows who you are.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:57:00 -
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NRDS is an excellent concept and, as long as space is patrolled, defense fleets don't nearly entirely consist of Drakes, and the sov holders know how to PVP, is an idea worth fighting for.
Also lolrp should never be put ahead of surival, because that is when you end up rotating in Jita, because it's cute and fun until you have nothing to roleplay over.
If your idea isn't to rp, but to really carve a piece of space for yourself, so NRDS can continue to exist, then I wish you the best of luck.
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Riedle
Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: Riedle on 21/04/2010 15:58:48 What, you can't stand that your old threadnaught got closed so you are trying to start another one?
Quote: Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates accomplishments, talents, skills, contacts, and personality traits to the point of lying, demands to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, unequaled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist), bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion
Firmly convinced that they are unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions
Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation ù or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (narcissistic supply
Feels entitled. Demands automatic and full compliance with their unreasonable expectations for special and favorable priority treatment. Is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achieve their own ends; Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with, acknowledge, or accept the feelings, needs, preferences, priorities, and choices of others;
Constantly envious of others and seeks to hurt or destroy the objects of their frustration. Suffers from persecutory (paranoid) delusions stemming from a belief that others are envious of them and are likely to act similarly
Behaves arrogantly and haughtily. Feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, "above the law", and omnipresent (magical thinking).
Rages when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted by people they consider inferior to themselves and unworthy.
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Dagny Bronstein
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:57:00 -
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You might want to take notice that with U'K and the Jericho Fraction two well-known NRDS entities have recently been able to take/expand their space
There's more to the world of NRDS than just you & CVA and NRDS is far from dying.
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:58:00 -
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hi cat here
i think nrds is the best kind of policy because it means that unless someone is your enemy, they are your friend lol
i think we should make more friends in eve and make it a more productive environment where people can go about their business in safety lol
xxx ♥ VOTE CAT ♥ my facebook! | Safety Dance
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:58:00 -
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Did I slip and click CAOD?
Sig Gallery is currently down: Contact me ingame for prices.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 21/04/2010 15:59:37 NBSI is Team Deathmatch in Space.
0.0 can be put to far greater uses. -
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Edited by: Aaron on 21/04/2010 15:55:33 Im sure lots of you know who I am.
I have absolutely no idea who you are, but if you're so well known why aren't you getting this underway instead of asking others to get it underway with/for you?
And I think NRDS is a great idea and loved how CVA kept their space safe for so long, but you're right, to protect peaces often means fighting big fights so yeah, you'd need a large focus on joint defense. .
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.21 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dagny Bronstein You might want to take notice that with U'K and the Jericho Fraction two well-known NRDS entities have recently been able to take/expand their space
There's more to the world of NRDS than just you & CVA and NRDS is far from dying.
U'K is NRDS? I can head to their space and not get shot by them?
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
Im sure lots of you know who I am.
I don't have the tiniest bit of a clue who you are.
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Dagny Bronstein
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Posted - 2010.04.21 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Dagny Bronstein You might want to take notice that with U'K and the Jericho Fraction two well-known NRDS entities have recently been able to take/expand their space
There's more to the world of NRDS than just you & CVA and NRDS is far from dying.
U'K is NRDS? I can head to their space and not get shot by them?
responding to likely troll but w/e...
U'K has operated NRDS (with the exception of Catch & Providence) for a very long time now; before they were kicked out of Providence they operated NRDS in their sov systems in Providence & Catch, too.
Not sure on their current status/plans, but last I read was that expectations are they will return to operating NRDS in Providence but stay allied with -A- (so you would be shot in their space by -A- and not by U'K).
I mainly invoked U'K to show that there are other approaches to NRDS in EVE than CVA's forced standings & space police policy.
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Triethylene
Minmatar Local-Spike
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Posted - 2010.04.21 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Aaron
Im sure lots of you know who I am.
I don't have the tiniest bit of a clue who you are.
You have confused 'lots of you' with 'you'. Get a clue.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Triethylene
Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Aaron
Im sure lots of you know who I am.
I don't have the tiniest bit of a clue who you are.
You have confused 'lots of you' with 'you'. Get a clue.
You have confused "I" with "We". Get a clue.
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.04.21 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dagny Bronstein
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Dagny Bronstein You might want to take notice that with U'K and the Jericho Fraction two well-known NRDS entities have recently been able to take/expand their space
There's more to the world of NRDS than just you & CVA and NRDS is far from dying.
U'K is NRDS? I can head to their space and not get shot by them?
responding to likely troll but w/e...
U'K has operated NRDS (with the exception of Catch & Providence) for a very long time now; before they were kicked out of Providence they operated NRDS in their sov systems in Providence & Catch, too.
Not sure on their current status/plans, but last I read was that expectations are they will return to operating NRDS in Providence but stay allied with -A- (so you would be shot in their space by -A- and not by U'K).
I mainly invoked U'K to show that there are other approaches to NRDS in EVE than CVA's forced standings & space police policy.
I think it would be terrebly difficult to operate an NRDS policy while being allied to -A-, i can already see lots of confusion.
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Ryhss
Caldari The Templar Navy SRS.
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Posted - 2010.04.21 16:57:00 -
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I love NRDS but I think NBSI works too, certain alliances it fits. It's all a RP thing IMO.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails hi cat here
i think nrds is the best kind of policy because it means that unless someone is your enemy, they are your friend lol
i think we should make more friends in eve and make it a more productive environment where people can go about their business in safety lol
xxx
^ This :3
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Dagny Bronstein
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron I think it would be terrebly difficult to operate an NRDS policy while being allied to -A-, i can already see lots of confusion.
I like to differentiate between a "wide" and a "narrow" definition of NRDS.
The narrow one is simple: "don't shoot neutrals unprovoked"; this does not entail preventing your friends from shooting neutrals or protecting neutrals against reds.
The wide one would at least entail to prevent your friends from shooting neutrals in your space (which brings the need for shared standing lists between you and your friends, otherwise your friends/allies will always argue: "but he was red to me") and perhaps some expectation to protect neutrals from reds when you happen to notice the fighting.
I prefer the "narrow" definition of NRDS as imho the wide one impairs your autonomy/the autonomy of your allies to an undue degree by requiring shared standing lists to work acceptably.
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Nobzy
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Edited by: Aaron on 21/04/2010 15:55:33
Im sure lots of you know who I am.
I know who you are, and I can be considered lots of people.
So enough of that.
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:17:00 -
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Ok, what about the PVP aspect of enforcing NRDS?
Before Providence went down I had heard news of a big cap fleet battle (CVA vs -A-) involving like 100 cap ships and support fleets, I was suprised to hear that -A- didnt lose a single cap ship while CVA lost all of theirs.
There are many facilities in place to help Fleet comanders become better at their job, these include perhaps spending time on the test servers, and doing scenarios to find out the best tactics when in a cap fleet battle.
I feel that with a strong level of teamwork the NRDS leaders can really become a force to be rekoned with. i believe that NRDS actually outnumbers NBSI. with this in mind surley it would be possible for the NRDS consortium to be the most feared people in the game.
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Cynthia Ysolde
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:19:00 -
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**** you, drakes ****ing own
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Triethylene
Minmatar Local-Spike
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Triethylene
Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Aaron
Im sure lots of you know who I am.
I don't have the tiniest bit of a clue who you are.
You have confused 'lots of you' with 'you'. Get a clue.
You have confused "I" with "We". Get a clue.
It is you that have confused 'Us' with 'Them'
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Ptarmigent
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
So theres, Jericho, UK, and CVA all doing their bit for the NRDS plight. Perhaps learders of these alliances could get together and decide how NRDS is going to be implemented in EVe, from my experience, NRDS is quite difficult to manage when numbers are limited.
Speaking as a Free Caption of the star fraction, we are NRDS because space is free and we neither respect nor ordain borders or regressive standings enclosurism. Therefore us getting together to tell others how to be NRDS would be hypocritical. When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. |
Syn Callibri
Swag Co. Sandbox Bullies
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Triethylene
Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Triethylene
Originally by: Swiftgaze I don't have the tiniest bit of a clue who you are.[/quote
You have confused 'lots of you' with 'you'. Get a clue.
You have confused "I" with "We". Get a clue.
It is you that have confused 'Us' with 'Them'
You've all confused "some" and "none".
"I have just as much authority as the empress, just not as many people that believe it." |
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CCP Shadow
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:31:00 -
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Moved from EVE General Discussion to Warfare & Tactics. Hopefully, more civil than CAOD. Carry on.
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings Echelon.
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Shadow Hopefully, more civil than CAOD. Carry on.
That is what we call wishful thinking.
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Tokyo Vigilante
Amarr Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.04.22 11:28:00 -
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Erm I would like to think we all play to pew and to that effect NRDS is a silly concept IMO. You want to PvE stay hassle free in high sec.
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So Sensational
Tutorial and High Security Quality Assurance Team
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Posted - 2010.04.22 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: So Sensational on 22/04/2010 12:16:59 Edited by: So Sensational on 22/04/2010 12:15:11
Originally by: Dianeces
Originally by: Aaron
Im sure lots of you know who I am.
Nobody knows who you are.
I'm a nobody, and I don't. Your statement is a paradox because it's true and false at the same time, are you God?
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hgedsku
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Posted - 2010.04.22 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Edited by: Aaron on 21/04/2010 15:55:33 Edited by: Aaron on 21/04/2010 15:54:08 Hello,
Im sure lots of you know who I am. ...
Confirming, like the others have, that I have no idea who you are as well.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.22 14:34:00 -
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Quote: U'K has operated NRDS (with the exception of Catch & Providence) for a very long time now;
Combine it with this:
Quote: U'K has operated almost solely in Catch & Providence for a very long time now;
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