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Kormara
Dreams Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.09.25 18:06:00 -
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Quote:...this is one of the moments where we look at what CCP does and not what they say
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Kormara
Dreams Unlimited
0
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Posted - 2011.09.25 18:13:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Oh, and to the rabble brigade:
It's spaceships.
Spaceships is what I'm referring to as focus.
Hey moron, the "rabble brigade" keep you employed.
Prove that you actually know where the undock button is.
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Lirael Dyrim
In Bacon We Trust
2
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Posted - 2011.09.25 18:34:00 -
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I'm gonna side with my cynicism on this and believe it when I see it. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
114
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Posted - 2011.09.25 18:35:00 -
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Hey Zulu, I been watching this space for days. Am I missing something? Hilmar, Zulu, Soundwave: We care about our hobby. Do you care about your jobs? |
Zarnak Wulf
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2011.09.25 18:40:00 -
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Meh. CCP took out massive loans to build WoD and Dust. They probably made delivery promises to go along with those loans. It's not as simple as snapping your fingers and moving devs back to where we all want them. They probably have to negotiate later delivery times and possible financial incentives with their investors. There are many reasons why they may not be ready to 'go public'. Legal departments have a great way of slowing everything up.
Anyone who's had to work in a customer service business realizes that when a customer walks in and you can't get to them right then and there - at the very least you should make eye contact, acknowledge their presence, and promise to be right with them. That's customer service 101 and that's all this dev blog was. It's the anger and resentment that goes along with 18 months of neglect that make it insufficient.
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Reten Kip
Everset Dropbears
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Posted - 2011.09.25 18:53:00 -
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More empty promises in flashy dev blogs. CCP has to get cracking on some actions fast or it's going to be too little, too late. Stop talking and do it. I don't think you will. |
Sethose Olderon
Gryphon Chancellery Gryphon League
0
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Posted - 2011.09.25 19:51:00 -
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I certainly hope for your sake CCP, that you are sincere about this, and I hope your planning on removing microtransactions. Your actions and behavior the last couple of years (especially in the last few months) have pushed a large portion of your subscribers and a lot of external media to the extremes of cynicism.
Personally, I'm not going to hold my breath. I've waited 3 1/2 years for the ever-promised industry expansion to no avail. Nullsec obviously needs to be fixed, but after that please do something about industry. |
Steph Wing
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.09.25 21:41:00 -
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Keep the threadnaught chugging, rabble brigade! |
Iluminat
Sharp Dressed Man
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Posted - 2011.09.25 22:31:00 -
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I installed Freelancer a couple of weeks ago and it was refreshing after 6 years of eve. Fast action Fast learning curve Fast high action short missions Enough trading routes Nice to find some Nomad guns
Eve just gets boring after 6 years. It's becomming a slow bohemoth. I suggest ccp play more of these games to get some inspiration. |
Dodgy Past
Digital Fury Corporation Northern Coalition.
5
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Posted - 2011.09.25 23:19:00 -
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Lars Erlkonig wrote:Speaking of which, the fact that people get 3 strikes before they are banned for running bots still leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. If you warn them once and they knowingly do so a second time, do they really deserve a third attempt? Is CCP really that willing to put the desire for $15/month that far ahead of the stability of the much vaunted player driven market? Good point, we were promised that botting would be heavily attacked.
Infact it seems to be the only area of growth in the entire game. Also there's been zero follow up on this after all the fanfare in the past.
Yet another broken promise. |
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Ravcharas
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
11
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Posted - 2011.09.26 00:23:00 -
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CCP Zulu tries to play the community like a cheap piano. Shoots self in foot. More at the top of the hour as the story develops.
Keep at it, and pretty soon daddy is gonna take the t-bird away. |
Ravcharas
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
11
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Posted - 2011.09.26 00:25:00 -
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Also, two cheers for promises and the bucket of warm spit they are worth! |
Junky Juke
Delta Division.
5
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Posted - 2011.09.26 00:43:00 -
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Encouraging... how long will you leave us in limbo? |
Inepsa1987
Strategic Terror
0
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Posted - 2011.09.26 01:04:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Watch this space.
The situation you've created here is kinda disgusting. Zulu is the best troll machine in all the internet. |
Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2011.09.26 01:19:00 -
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meh at buggy forums eating my wall of text :(
I'm rapidly realising that CCP are better trolls than we are
CCP killed the dream, "excellence, deliver & soonGäó" are now bywords for CCP incompetence and mismanagement.
CCP Zulu needs to take a class in Public Relations and learn how to talk to people that pay his employer money every month. We're not rabble, we're paying customers and as such deserve a little respect.
Dev blogs without content are not worth publishing, "we're working on spaceships" would have got a much more positive reaction than the vapid effort that started this threadnaught. Buzz words just don't cut it when your products biggest fans have lost faith in the games direction.
The gameplay itself encourages us to be evil, backstabbing, dishonest, manipulative and downright nasty. Player driven propaganda, content, advertising & media far outweighs anything that CCP put out. When Eve hits the headlines 90% of the time it does so because of player driven events, could be a massive ponzi scheme, a huge corp theft or burning down the trade hubs because the NEX store is priced stupidly (and it is stupid, micro means small not the cost of a damn plex).
Alienating the fan base by releasing content that is either unfinished, poorly executed or just plain unwanted, and insulting them is not a good way to gain new players, especially when the fans are the ones that do most of the advertising by word of mouth. |
HaydenJD
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.09.26 02:40:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:meh at buggy forums eating my wall of text :( I'm rapidly realising that CCP are better trolls than we are CCP killed the dream, "excellence, deliver & soonGäó" are now bywords for CCP incompetence and mismanagement. CCP Zulu needs to take a class in Public Relations and learn how to talk to people that pay his employer money every month. We're not rabble, we're paying customers and as such deserve a little respect. Dev blogs without content are not worth publishing, "we're working on spaceships" would have got a much more positive reaction than the vapid effort that started this threadnaught. Buzz words just don't cut it when your products biggest fans have lost faith in the games direction. The gameplay itself encourages us to be evil, backstabbing, dishonest, manipulative and downright nasty. Player driven propaganda, content, advertising & media far outweighs anything that CCP put out. When Eve hits the headlines 90% of the time it does so because of player driven events, could be a massive ponzi scheme, a huge corp theft or burning down the trade hubs because the NEX store is priced stupidly (and it is stupid, micro means small not the cost of a damn plex). The evil backstabbing part comes out when CCP screw stuff up and the players have to resort to the gaming media to air their concerns because CCP have their lalalala earplugs in where the "rabble" concerned, they only listen when it becomes known outside the game and their income and image could be affected. Alienating the fan base by releasing content that is either unfinished, poorly executed or just plain unwanted, and insulting them is not a good way to gain new players, especially when the fans are the ones that do most of the advertising by word of mouth. Crowd Control Productions? recently it's been more like Comedy Central Productions. The cats are now out of the bags, good luck with herding cats CCP
Exactly this, word for word. I could not say it better myself.
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HaydenJD
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.09.26 02:50:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Meh. CCP took out massive loans to build WoD and Dust. They probably made delivery promises to go along with those loans. It's not as simple as snapping your fingers and moving devs back to where we all want them. They probably have to negotiate later delivery times and possible financial incentives with their investors. There are many reasons why they may not be ready to 'go public'. Legal departments have a great way of slowing everything up. Anyone who's had to work in a customer service business realizes that when a customer walks in and you can't get to them right then and there - at the very least you should make eye contact, acknowledge their presence, and promise to be right with them. That's customer service 101 and that's all this dev blog was. It's the anger and resentment that goes along with 18 months of neglect that make it insufficient.
They should have taken it one step at a time, keep working on EVE and maybe start some development on a second game but not dropped EVE almost entirely for two other game developments. Using EVE as live testing for features of your new games is completely unacceptable and we will not tolerate it.
This is our stand as both players of EVE and paying customers against neglect of the game we love and we will not backdown, we will see that this is all corrected or we shall witness the fall of CCP. |
Gridwalker
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.26 03:39:00 -
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To paraphrase CCP's intrepid CEO, I think I'm going to "ignore what you say and make up my mind based on what you actually do."
I will be happy when I see the "ship spinning" issue resolved; being able to choose whether we want to exit our ships or not makes sense, not only from a usability perspective, but also from an immersion perspective.
The bigger question, however, is how are you going to balance adding new features with fixing existing ones? I don't think anyone wants to see EVE become stagnant, but neither do we want to see nearly every aspect of EVE in a state of perpetual pre-beta!
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Damarn Price
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2011.09.26 03:41:00 -
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Wow, There are so many opinions floating around about what should be done, its a wonder anything gets done. Some say CCP promises too much and deliver too little, and when they respond to that by holding back on forecasting future direction others pipe up and say they don't say enough. The CSM members seem to express just as diverse views. It will take me a year to sort this all out to understand what do we want. But I know we're now Walking in station now, Or more like "Pacing in Room" we're working on populating the planets; Something is happening in 0.0 to Sovereignty. Changes are being made to the UI; the game looks damn good; and for its complexity it works damn good; and, we've got a new Forum that hopefully will help me make sense of all this. I have been around a little more than a year now, and it is all so complex, I need another year to figure out what's been going on from last year to this year. I guess its just a good job around, the player-base blast CCP so hard and from so many directions, CCP actually performs well above my expectations in rising to the occasion to meet player demands, therefore excelling in this game production. And by the way, when my wife asks, "Are you still playing that GAME?. I seriously reply, "It's not a game. It's a simulator. A life simulator." But she walks away mumbling, "It's a game." A damn good game it is. |
Reten Kip
Everset Dropbears
0
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Posted - 2011.09.26 04:08:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Oh, and to the rabble brigade:
It's spaceships.
Spaceships is what I'm referring to as focus.
There was a chance that I would renew my subscription before it runs out next month, but that response just terminated it. Obviously you don't want any paying customers, so this one is done. You blew your last chance. |
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Auric Aurumfinger
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.09.26 04:52:00 -
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CCP HQ, a few hours after the blog post:
The intern runs and abrupty interrupts The CEO. He hates when people enter his office during tea.
- Hilmar, Hilmar, we have a problem. - What is it, intern? - People are complaining and bitching again in the forums!!! - AGAIN? Release the Zulu! - A-a-re you sure? - Enough! Release the Zulu!
CCP is becoming a pretty good case on how not to run PR in the game industry.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
118
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Posted - 2011.09.26 06:48:00 -
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Inepsa1987 wrote:CCP Zulu wrote:Watch this space. The situation you've created here is kinda disgusting. Zulu is the best troll machine in all the internet.
*watches space* *rabbles* (not at all predictable)
Yup, troll. Time to report Zulu to the mods. Hilmar, Zulu, Soundwave: We care about our hobby. Do you care about your jobs? |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
118
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Posted - 2011.09.26 06:51:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Oh, and to the rabble brigade:
It's spaceships.
Spaceships is what I'm referring to as focus.
Reported your post.
"trolling no content insulting players" Hilmar, Zulu, Soundwave: We care about our hobby. Do you care about your jobs? |
Ender Sai
Foetus Mart
1
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Posted - 2011.09.26 07:49:00 -
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Okay, enough trolling of CCP trolling players and player trolling CCP.
When can we expect the devblog we have been expecting?
If this was the devblog, then I feel trolled. I mean, I'm happy you're moving towards a newer brighter future and all that, but you know, curious parties (me) want to know what you're actually planning. And I like devblogs, that is blogs with dev in them.
If you guys are still coming up with the devblog we have been waiting for (tm) you could have just said something like "we're still working on something give us another week" or something like that. 'cause at the moment it's like you're saying we're going to get coca cola and then you're like POW PEPSI. PWNT. Which is a bit like. :-\ |
mkint
60
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Posted - 2011.09.26 08:32:00 -
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soonGäó iterateGäó watch this spaceGäó dev blogGäó excellenceGäó deliverGäó
Am I missing any other CCP-speak for "nothing's gonna happen"? Please don't let refocusGäó become a thing. |
Pesadel0
the muppets RED.OverLord
1
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Posted - 2011.09.26 08:38:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Oh, and to the rabble brigade:
It's spaceships.
Spaceships is what I'm referring to as focus.
How can you be so dumb.
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Niko Takahashi
Percone Outcasts
5
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Posted - 2011.09.26 09:03:00 -
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Sister Bliss wrote:Did the forum bug eat your post too CCP Zulu?
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RavenNyx
The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
1
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Posted - 2011.09.26 09:04:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Oh, and to the rabble brigade:
It's spaceships.
Spaceships is what I'm referring to as focus. Funny, real funny. You think being passive-aggressive with the angry mob (you know, the rabble?) is the best way you can represent CCP? You do NOT have any goodwill left Zulu - you've lost that away some time ago. We are not your equals, we're your bread and butter. Now, act mature and speak to us in a manner becomming a normal customer / customer-service relationship.
We care about this game, it's why we where ever "rabbling" in the first place. I'm starting to doubt CCP cares since the one of the only public CCP voices is Zulu and the others are backing him. I can only take that as CCPs official attitude towards me and other customers. Rabble, was that the word? Funny...
/raven
PS: Give us back the old forums - a beta such as this is pretty lame. If you quote something, you can't even see the freekin' source? Heh... It's what, 5-6 years since I last saw a forum with that feature missing.... |
Niko Takahashi
Percone Outcasts
5
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Posted - 2011.09.26 09:08:00 -
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To be honest.
I am pissed as anyone at CCP but please some bloddy patience.
If the new ship spin option. and the other stuff gets implemented it ia good first step.
And if I think what they doing is actually what they doing now it is totally undestandable that it is going to take some time.
CCP please do NOT disapoint again because IF you do I am pretty sure that is going to be the end of this game. which would be a shame.
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Duatha Hanann
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.09.26 09:15:00 -
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That-¦s it! my 3-yearold account is cancelled.
Never wanted to play GÇPspace-barbie-onlineGÇ£.
Keep going CCP and improve your shiny Gǣshopping-in-stationGǥ Keep going CCP dev-blog-proposing GǪGǪ nothing GǪGǪfor real spacepilots.
X3 will be reborn soon!
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