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Lady Aeri
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Raven Seldon
Well thanks for messing up my skilltraining scheme!
Never thought from 9:00 till 15:00 would take 8 hours more!
You should have loaded your training queue up fully. Everyone should whenever they take the servers down for maintenance or whatever. It's a smart thing to do in case they go offline for a few days.
We all wish it was up and running s we can play. Just calm down and go do something else for the time being. They'll be up soon enough.
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Nata Asphyxia
Cookies of Doom
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
[362]
nolifers' tears ITT
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Tigrison
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
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I have to agree with the time issue. People have been waiting up all day and all night around the world for this to come online and to keep changing the time from 15:00 to 21:00 and now to 23:00 is ridiculous. What's it going to be at 23:00? Delayed to 1am then delayed to 4am etc?
It's also particularly annoying for those players who may have structured and planned their day and their committments around the time that has been advertised. Unlike other games that are free to play, this game costs time and money to play and for some players this is a real investment, so a bit more consideration needs to apply.
Quite simply, if you unable to stick to a time, then don't bother announcing one, but rather announce how many hours it may take with updates, otherwise all you do is waste peoples time as they patiently look forward to the login time, only to have that dashed away by further delays.
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Ahd Dib
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
[364]
I'm anxious to play my favorite game, but calm down people!
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Buckaroo Kamakazee
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Macky1
on a lighter note :
A warning light just came on, on the dashboard of my car. It looks exactly like the insignia for Gears of War. How concerned should I be about this?   
I wouldn't worry about. What could possibly gow rong.
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ctx2007
Minmatar
Wychwood and Wells
United Nations Intelligence Taskforces
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
[366]
hmm still down never mind but hurry guys please before my skill training runs out 
EVE is a game and a damn good one too |
NekoKitten
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
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Its too bad that they are doing a migration on a day I have off -_- But then again, the time frame was a little too optimistic in my opinion, I was expecting it to lengthen. I'm sure the services will run smoothly sometime soon. I dont mind a little offline time for service improvement though. Just make it snappy ya hear ;)
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To Boldy Mine, Where Nobody Has Mined Before .. |
sniper29a
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
[368]
Edited by: sniper29a on 23/06/2010 21:39:24
not everyone needs to use more than one account to play game and prosper. more accounts = incompetence to do one thing properly on one account. I guess you have got many accounts to be able to play properly on one account like most do. still, most cannot buy what they need because they are too busy by multi-account chaos. at least you keep ccp guys running.
Originally by: Atomic boobinspecter
Do me a favor and take ya whiney arse to HED system and get podded 50billion times....quit crying if ya had more then one account you would dual box also so STFU
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1Esquire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
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API is running. EVE mon is linked to API but tranquility is offline still
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Canti Ludan
The Executives
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:40:00 -
[370]
Originally by: Macky1
on a lighter note :
A warning light just came on, on the dashboard of my car. It looks exactly like the insignia for Gears of War. How concerned should I be about this?
Its when it looks like the half-life symbol that you should really worry
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:40:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Rasz Lin
they use Microsoft ....
That hasn't been a valid reason for a daily downtime since NT4.
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BJK
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:41:00 -
[372]
Originally by: Poo Ka'hontas
Jebus mary and josef
Calm down people, we lost half a day of EVE.. whats the biggie? All we do when TQ is up is to complain then to About lag, nerfs, lo-sec or whatnot..
Today i ate dinner with my wife and father, played with our dog, watched some telly with said missus and generally enjoyed a fine day of delicious summer in the company of people who actually physically is in the same room as me 
CCP is doing the best they can (not that it is impressing or anything) and EVE will be back up when it is good and ready.
Call your grandma, smoke some pot, have a drink or whatnot.. (preferably NOT the other way around  ).
Beautiful :D
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Lord Moridin
Big Shadows
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: twomtNW
They've never been within the originally planned window
True ! Have CCP not heard of murphy's law ?
I have been playing for many years now, if ccp says from point A-B in time and keep it = with in expectations.
But CCP says from A-B and you get A-B+C = below expectations + threadnought
if CCP has a sales department, sales people can tell you that below expectations in not good for sales, the company and the stockholders of ccp.
so ,,, dear ccp implementation of patch team, have you heard of murphy's law ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy%27s_law
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light200
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:42:00 -
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guy's calm down sooner or later CCP will have everything up and running as we speek they are probaly sorting out the hamsters, putting them all back into their little wheels to get server up and running.
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Kerensky White
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:42:00 -
[375]
Originally by: Hunter Stevens
In the professional IT world, you don't exceed your time window. Professionals have a Implementation, validation, and back out procedures. If work can't be done in the Maintenance window as work is moving along, the backout procedure is executed, and back to the drawing board it goes to diagnose what went wrong.
Yet extended downtimes are not uncommon for any MMO.
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Xsag
Caldari
Black Fury
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:42:00 -
[376]
Originally by: Lady Aeri
Originally by: Raven Seldon
Well thanks for messing up my skilltraining scheme!
Never thought from 9:00 till 15:00 would take 8 hours more!
You should have loaded your training queue up fully. Everyone should whenever they take the servers down for maintenance or whatever. It's a smart thing to do in case they go offline for a few days.
We all wish it was up and running s we can play. Just calm down and go do something else for the time being. They'll be up soon enough.
Yea 22 day skill training ftw
i had a cool logo once, but then i moved corps and i couldnt be bothered doing a new one. |
Whenua Momona
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:43:00 -
[377]
Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong.
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blam11
Caldari
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:43:00 -
[378]
evemon say ... server offline ... online soon ? 
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StarStryder
WISE OUTCASTS
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:44:00 -
[379]
Originally by: Deb Ian
He is not clueless, you are, by attacking him instead of ccp. These are computers, and they are predictable if you have a clue about them, unlike my old neighbour who thinks that computer hates her.
CCP got problems because they didnt have a clue into what they will run in when migrating, no expereince, no clue plus using microsoft software.
Yes, they are predictable at the most basic level. However, as systems grow in complexity the chance of an unexpected issue increases.
And you're right, they probably didn't know exactly what to expect. Because you know what, they don't have the ability to completely duplicate TQ in a test environment.
Which would you prefer, the odd extended DT or adding 50% to your subscription fee because at the end of the day that's what it comes down to.
Originally by: Deb Ian
CCP pls it is already hard enough to justify paying for game in which you waste your remaining life hours trying to achive something, so pls keep servers up or you leave us with nothing to do,
when we have nothing to do we start to think (at least some of us), and thinking usually makes you quit playing, cause we already started to play not to think about something else in a first to place, full circle
I really hope you were being ironic? If you were being serious then you sound like drug addict. Sort of pathetic really.
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Kindra69
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:44:00 -
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yeah i put 3 days training on for something i don't think i really need but you should know CCP not doing this on purpose and by now you should know extended down time always longer that what they think. lol
sit back, watch some youtube or play some flash games
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Arithron
Gallente
Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:44:00 -
[381]
Originally by: Tigrison
It's also particularly annoying for those players who may have structured and planned their day and their committments around the time that has been advertised. Unlike other games that are free to play, this game costs time and money to play and for some players this is a real investment, so a bit more consideration needs to apply.
Quite simply, if you unable to stick to a time, then don't bother announcing one, but rather announce how many hours it may take with updates, otherwise all you do is waste peoples time as they patiently look forward to the login time, only to have that dashed away by further delays.
Is this a wind-up? Quite frankly, I LOLed a lot...so it must be
Seriously, you plan your time and committments around Eve...it's an investment? What exactly are you doing in Eve???
Vote Arithron for CSM!
Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Arimus Darkhart
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:45:00 -
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Why do I get a feeling the timescales are not provided by the engineers carrying out the work but by some commerical/marketing/non-tech management drone?
Every time I've done a server uplift which involves taking any part of the service down I always give an overestimate of the time (well not so much as an overestimate but estimate of time + contingency for the usual last minute gotchas)... then when its done inside the timescale people are satisfied, if done to the timescale still no biggy, if it goes on longer I'll backout the change... I make the backout decision well before the point at which I'm comitted beyond recovery.
Think CCP should be more realistic and for a change of any significant nature schedule a 24 hour down time window, or 36/48 hours whatever they consider to be reasonable and caveat it with something like 'this is an estimated time, service may be restored before the 24 hour period but it is not guaranteed' etc.
I'd rather have a realistic estimate to start with than the usual ever increasing estimates we get.
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Oddesa Acosta
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:45:00 -
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puuuf how long will take this ?
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Jaabaa
Minmatar
Dental Drilling Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:46:00 -
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+7 years of EVE
+8 hours downtime
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No surprise (+25 days training skill set)
... Guess who's been here before ;)
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Hunter Stevens
the backout procedure is executed
A data centre move is more of a 'fix on fail' change than a backout.
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Cannon Fodd3r
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
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I think reading these posts is nearly s much fun as playing the game!! Come on CCP, lets have some more extended DTs.....
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G Mixolydian
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: G Mixolydian on 23/06/2010 21:51:46
People like this are the only thing I hate about working in IT or any service provider.
If they break down the cost, even if the site/game were down for 24 hours, they've lost $.50. 50 cents of game time... Really?! You're going to complain about that? They have the right guys on the job. They explained thoroughly what they were doing.
Get up, go do something else. Read a book. Once you saw the extension from 1500 to 1800. Or even to 2100, you should have just told yourself "alright this is going to need some time, i'll do something else".
Even with the downtime you still have a >95% uptime in a year.
They can do the job right, or they can do the job hastily. If they rushed the servers up, you'd all complain that they released garbage. They're taking their time, getting the job done. Fire up your xbox, find 50 cents to replace the day lost in the damn couch, and stfu already.
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1Esquire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
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Yep ALL OF US every upgrade is underestimated... morons=set short skills
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carebear one
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
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Hello,
hm I followed this thread a while and basically its "nice" to see how many people are allready brainwashed and indoctrinated by the content industry. Not able to act as a customer anymore ... only able to act like a beggar.
Well I dont think CCP provides this service because they are Altruists ... and I dont gave my money as a gift. CCP want to make a fortune and I want to play. So ... I understand that they have to do maintenance jobs and I dont complain about it BUT also I think as a customer I can expect some kind of compensation for an unreachable service for over 18 hours for wich I paid for. Its not my problem that they let the server outdate ... lets see it from the other side ... I never had heared that CCP said "well he paid for EVE over 5 years now ... now he forgot to put in a new GTC lets have his Account open because he is such a good customer for over 5 years now" ... I have to fullfill my duties to be able to play EVE and so I can expect CCP to do there duties and when they are unable to do it in time there has to be some compensation.
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De'Vadder
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Neko
I Snapped this picture of CCP Technical Team earlier
Also good work on the updating, to be honest it could be worse. They could be like Dice when Bad Company 2 was released and told us it would be down an hour which turned out to be a couple of days.
As for time estimation, i'm not to fussed about the wait but it would be nice to have a lil link in Eve to just small updates about whats going on.
Good lord, dont remember me of DICE. Battlefield heroes was soo badly supported with players buying stuff for real money and than not beeing able to play, contacting customer support, they said post in the forums, the forums guys said, nah, not our job, wait till someone from customer support sees your thread.... and then nothing happens for almost 3 months.
Or there was an easy bug (that stacked an effect that shouldnt have stacked) occuring in a non-content patch (meaning reroll would have been easy) that gave the one team an unbelieveable edge to were the servers were almost empty and not even the slightest official posts on the concern for 3 weeks.
Glad i dont have to bother with that anymore as i quitted when they broke their promise to never give paying players an advantage.
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