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iosoti
Amarr Astral Community Enterprises Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:41:00 -
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Edited by: iosoti on 17/06/2010 17:47:12 If you look at efficiency of NC as a whole it is still at 70 percent after all those titans losses. For perspective the entire SC's efficiency is under 50 percent. Along with IT under 50 percent and TRI at some points getting a 17.9 percent efficiency.
The thing about NC is even though they lose alot, they also kill alot. Most others don't have balls for a fight. For instance SC ran away first second they saw a fight was coming. Against russians they went for it, but lag got the best of them.
White Noise don't necessarily have any logistics skill or pvp skill imo. If anyone knows about white noise they would know they exploited 6 ways to sunday on static plex's in the south to get their caps. There was a time when you could respawn structures without doing the plex every 30min-1hr with a nice bug ccp had. So the ceo from white noise would go sit in the last room and let the structure respawn over and over. He would sit in there for the whole day and lock himself in there and farm it, and no one can get in because they dont have the key.
Then one mad russia from RA got mad and told ccp about it and it got nerfed.
White Noise is still full of macros though so its no problem to make more isk if they ever need, but they don't.
If you were ever curious why russians have a huge stockpile of officer/faction on all their ships that is why
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Sidzo
Minmatar SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:43:00 -
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That is true story they got titans back ! Also today i was doing plex 9/10 and i lost my Loki (becouse lag ), then i convo one GM. After 5 minuts I got ship back and GM tell me : BE MORE CAREFUL NEXT TIME ! TNX CCP !!!
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Vuk Lau on 17/06/2010 17:43:40 I agree, that TQ is falling apart. The worst thing is that before you could predict how TQ will behave which is now impossible. NOt to mention that you can be in empty system with your fleet only and get ****ed with lag so horrible.
I am traveling to Iceland on Tuesday for CSM-CCP summit. Naturally this have highest priority on not only my agenda. Whole CSM recognize TQ being horrible as huge problem, and be sure we will push hard CCP on this matter.
I know majority of you resents SiSi mass testings, but thats the easist way for any of you to help on this matter. Sisi tests rarely last more then hour, and you can be on both sisi and TQ with same account on the same time so you are not loosing much of your time.
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Azzma
Amarr D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:45:00 -
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I kind of think we should all just team up, NC SC whoever and tell CCP what's up.
I mean, it's cool NC titans died and all but is this really the game we all want to play?
Problem is, they'll probably just post some message about "Working on it" and nothing will happen heh. Give us back Apocrypha era lag...
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MrRx7
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: boo3916
Originally by: Marlona Sky I don't see any of these losses on the Northern Coalition kill board. Wasn't this the very kill board that NC toted around as being the most accurate kill board in the game? And yet, according to their kill board, it's like the fight never took place.
NC, what is wrong with your kill board?
dont be silly, nc are a bunch of ***gots, they post kills but dont like to post losses, they like to pretend it didnt happen
Originally by: Marlona Sky Razor, why would you remove API verified kills from the NC kill board?
Perhaps you should know what your talking about before you speak. the NC Kb has never once used the API to feed kills as that would require every corp in the entire Nc to give me full director keys (good luck with that). The killboard simply pulls data from the member boards or is directly posted too if the respective alliance/corp board has the plugin installed.
That being said the Nc KB has not been maintained for the past year and its not surprising if its missing a lot of data, I have not really given much care to it and the dev who wrote it has other things to spend his time on.
The only reason kills are ever deleted is because they are corrupt or duplicate, Nobody in the entire Nc has the password to do so except for me
But hey, good troll.
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:46:00 -
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I found a Titan floating in a belt in Jita after DT this morning. If someone can tell me the color of the seat cushion for the pilots seat proving they are the rightfull owner I will give it back.. Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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Omeega
Amarr Lethal Corp RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:47:00 -
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So much spinning, my head, can't take it anymore...!
Don't speak english, f1,f2,f3... |
Orree
Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: Orree on 17/06/2010 17:49:35
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Lasakywa
Originally by: Seleene I lost a titan once.
To a dd proof AAA flycatcher. 'was a nice trick
Yeah, back in the day we lost titans one at a time to awesome ideas / traps. This **** is... hell, I don't even...
Yeah...not that some of the initial titan losses weren't equally lame, it's hard to be all that excited about something that obviously wouldn't have happened if the server was actually up to supporting what actually goes on in 0.0 these days.
I think this is also further proof, if any was needed, that you really shouldn't employ these ships unless they are really required for the task at hand. I don't know exactly what occured, but I've seen it mentioned more than once in this thread that they weren't required. It has always been a pet peeve of mine to see capitals and supercapitals employed in situations that don't call for their use and basically amount to overkill "just because you can." I'm glad the old days of DDing roaming gangs are gone, but that appears to have been replaced with the titan blob and that's just as dumb, really.
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Hyveres
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Hyveres on 17/06/2010 17:51:38
Originally by: iosoti Edited by: iosoti on 17/06/2010 17:47:12 If you look at efficiency of NC as a whole it is still at 70 percent after all those titans losses. For perspective the entire SC's efficiency is under 50 percent. Along with IT under 50 percent and TRI at some points getting a 17.9 percent efficiency.
The thing about NC is even though they lose alot, they also kill alot. Most others don't have balls for a fight. For instance SC ran away first second they saw a fight was coming. Against russians they went for it, but lag got the best of them.
White Noise don't necessarily have any logistics skill or pvp skill imo. If anyone knows about white noise they would know they exploited 6 ways to sunday on static plex's in the south to get their caps. There was a time when you could respawn structures without doing the plex every 30min-1hr with a nice bug ccp had. So the ceo from white noise would go sit in the last room and let the structure respawn over and over. He would sit in there for the whole day and lock himself in there and farm it, and no one can get in because they dont have the key.
Then one mad russia from RA got mad and told ccp about it and it got nerfed.
White Noise is still full of macros though so its no problem to make more isk if they ever need, but they don't.
If you were ever curious why russians have a huge stockpile of officer/faction on all their ships that is why
Or, they simply do not post their losses the way the southern alliances do. It helps that while the south mostly fight 3-4 alliances together they fight 20+ spreading losses out over a ton of killboards.
Coalition vs people doing stuff with their own members really. That being said the NC has been effective the last few months.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound |
Mavrixx
Gallente H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:51:00 -
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I was playing WOW this morning, was just about to fight the Lich King when a pilot-less titan suddenly appeared out of no where.
Will return to rightful owner for the right reward.
Call 800-SPIN-MOR for details. |
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Bismaru RELOADED
Amarr DEVIL'S SOULDEAD SS Circle of Steel
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Bismaru RELOADED So why would CCP give YOU titans back and not PL,..
I mean yeah no one really likes viper but come on seems a little strange that you get special treatment,..
Ok this time for all slow readers. As you could read here, I even told everyone to cancel their petitions cause they were pointless. Before I continue I will just give a quick comment on Y-2ANO. I hate myself for letting CCP slip tru with that fackup, but PL didnt wanted to bother with petitions and tbh I was sick of talking with GMs. 6NJ and Y-2ANO has nothing similar, all our caps/supercaps jumped out, consumed the fuel and capacitor, appeared in cyno-out systems and then crashed. Majority of ships we lost in 6NJ were unpiloted (pilots couldnt log for much more then 15 mins) f.e. Elvens titan was killed more then hour after he crashed. PL titans never loaded the system, tho they were killed as well hours after they crashed.
Anyway we took this 6NJ punch and went on, you lose some, you win some (I want to repeat again, I am not diminishing WN and crew accomplishment).
There was not any divine DEV intervention. We found few of them in A-A this morning, then rechecked all other exit systems and boarded all of them. You can smack as long as you want, but as many of the trolls who crawled under the rocks said here in last 12 hours - Karma is a *****.
I truly hope TQ will stop being **** soon, so we could have epic fights with dozens of supers on both sides. Luckily we are blessed with hostiles who has the balls to bring them out.
After reading your posts I can safely say the following,..
1. CCP whether or not reimburse NEVER just bring back dead ships by leaving them in space floating,.. Whats the point, lets entertain your post for a second and assume this is accurate the loot that dropped is still in tact with the enemy, did CCP just create new officer mods,.. :O
2. Lets play along for now and say the summoned titans spawn was meant to be given in stations however ended in space instead, this isnt like CCP either to make an unusual error on reimursing in space,..
3. An announcement of the losses has already been made official on facebook, ISD reports and the front page, surely CCP wouldnt be so quick to make a post about the event if they were planning on reimbursing,..
4. Rawr forums have yet any ACTUAL proof on this, only speculation based on what you have said, at least post the GM responses on there so I can read it,.. :P
5. Since none of the enemy ships have reimbused, you would think a roll back would be more suitable,..
6. One of the titan pilots didnt upgrade his clone and wasnt allowed his SP back, interesting how they reimbursed ships but not SP,..
Without actual proof of anything I would say this is a weak troll, however you managed to get me bite so tactical victory I guess,..
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.17 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau Whole CSM recognize TQ being horrible as huge problem, and be sure we will push hard CCP on this matter.
So you think that when the CSM gets there they will ride into the CCP offices like white knights and demand CCP kill the Lag Monster and just like that it will be done?
What could the CSM possibly say or do that will help in this matter? You know damn well that when you say, "CCP! We of the CSM demand that you fix this post Domintion lag now!" that they will simply reply, as they have already done with the past CSM's with, "We are working on it."
Don't be so naive.
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hyveres Or, they simply do not post their losses the way the southern alliances do. It helps that while the south mostly fight 3-4 alliances together they fight 20+ spreading losses out over a ton of killboards.
We all know that k/d ratio on alliance killboards doesnt mean nothing from the reasons you said, but if anyone in New Eden doesnt have a right to talk about not posting losses its your alliance and all their reincarnations, esp before when you guys were so anal about it.
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Gavin Neltharek
Caldari Debitum Naturae BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
I truly hope TQ will stop being **** soon, so we could have epic fights with dozens of supers on both sides. Luckily we are blessed with hostiles who has the balls to bring them out.[/quote
Stop bringing 1000 people to every damned engagement and maybe Lag will diminish somewhat. The nodes will definitely love you more. <----------------------------------> Carebears aren't people, they're giant flying piniatas.
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Uphnir
Amarr Salus Novus United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:09:00 -
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After reading many posts here I think many are not understanding that CCP had nothing to do with the return of the ships they just respawned, I have had this happen to myslef befor lost a ship in lag logged on next day in the ship even though I had a killmail generated , the ship had lost all it's lows and a few mids modules but was still insured and working.
Nobody has said anyware that the titans was replaced via petitions......
L2READ...
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LadyScarlet
Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Bismaru RELOADED I guess losing 93% of all your caps in one battle was too much to handle and you begged your dev friends to :help: you,..
Shame you have no proof of anything you said and its already been confirmed as lost and wont be reimbursed,..
Derek Chu is far more convincing than you, anyway less posting more mining those capital parts arent going to build themselves,..
Ask WN/Co2 they boarded some of them, including one titan if you dont trust me, and as I said few were already returned to owners. Just for the record I am not trying to diminish WN accomplishment in that fight, if there was no lag, there would be for sure supercap losses on both sides. On more then several occasions I stated that WN is one of the most formidable opponents we have.
because TROLLZ are so kooooool
I found iMic ger for you The scumsucker is located at EQI2 Lisztomania station in the EQI2-2 system, KWCZ-A constellation of Branch region.
I found Countrywv for you The sleazebag is currently at IMK Mount Kailasa station in the IMK-K1 system, W-XBGF constellation of Tribute region.
I found Rolk's Drift for you The sleazebag is currently in the GEKJ-9 system, DMXN-3 constellation of the Vale of the Silent region.
I found Heptameron for you The sleazebag is currently at IMK Mount Kailasa station in the IMK-K1 system, W-XBGF constellation of Tribute region.
I found Tzadkiel for you The scumsucker is located at 4S Rod Of Happiness station in the WH-JCA system, 52-JKU constellation of Tribute region.
I found Genevieve Beaulieu for you The scumsucker is located at Airaken V - Moon 1 - Sisters of EVE Academy station in the Airaken system, Aulari constellation of The Forge region.
station huggin for the win :)
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Zuquar Bonaparte
Gallente New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:13:00 -
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I can confirm every thing vuk says is true, actually just found 3 titans and a superC in my delivery hanger in pf-q.
unfortunately i cant ride these types of ships , so vuk, pls come and get them since they can only belong to you and your trolls:)
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
Lord TGR
Minmatar Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin Neltharek Stop bringing 1000 people to every damned engagement and maybe Lag will diminish somewhat. The nodes will definitely love you more.
Why? Because CCP ****ed up their code?
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:17:00 -
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Nice effort my lady. Tzadkiel Avatar is taken by hostiles. CountryYW is working, his Erebus is with Coji, Capataz Rolk Drift is with him. We also scooped Lou Cypher horribly fitted supercarrier in D7T. I am going out now, but I will check who is babysitting other supers.
If you are so sure that I am trolling lets bet in 100 bil I am not. We can use Chribba as 3rd party. We can use ship IDs to confirm if I am saying the truth or not?
Are you up for it?
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NC DamageControl
Caldari Stellar Convertors
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:20:00 -
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As the official press spokesman I can confirm that Vuk is telling the truth. We didn't lose anything and 6NJ never happened.
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Zuquar Bonaparte
Gallente New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Zuquar Bonaparte on 17/06/2010 18:25:45
Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Bismaru RELOADED I guess losing 93% of all your caps in one battle was too much to handle and you begged your dev friends to :help: you,..
Shame you have no proof of anything you said and its already been confirmed as lost and wont be reimbursed,..
Derek Chu is far more convincing than you, anyway less posting more mining those capital parts arent going to build themselves,..
Ask WN/Co2 they boarded some of them, including one titan if you dont trust me, and as I said few were already returned to owners. Just for the record I am not trying to diminish WN accomplishment in that fight, if there was no lag, there would be for sure supercap losses on both sides. On more then several occasions I stated that WN is one of the most formidable opponents we have.
i can confirm, we now have 8 titans instead of the 5 we ownd b4 the fight thnx ccp and thnx vuk for buiulding them for us
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
LadyScarlet
Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:22:00 -
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i don't need to bet because
1. take gms usually a week or more to sort petitions ( unless you got one in your back pocket )
2. sc's floating in space would have to be docked by a gm for them to be in a station seems far fetched
3. you getting your **** back that fast would cause epic ****fest in ccp for all those who h ave lost sc's in the past in lagg battles.
if you have them replaced im sure its not by means of ccp or just "spawned in a system "
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Emsee
Minmatar Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:23:00 -
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I just found NC's titan in my pants.
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G00dWin
Amarr Red Rodgers. White Noise.
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:24:00 -
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Vuk is troll? Nice to meet you dude! 100 bil bet ok =)
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Super Twinkey69
Minmatar D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:28:00 -
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jesus vuk....stop man...just stop...give it up...there is no way that the general member of the nc could be THAT stupid to belive u anyways.....right?
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0ca
Gallente ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: LadyScarlet i don't need to bet because
1. take gms usually a week or more to sort petitions ( unless you got one in your back pocket )
2. sc's floating in space would have to be docked by a gm for them to be in a station seems far fetched
3. you getting your **** back that fast would cause epic ****fest in ccp for all those who h ave lost sc's in the past in lagg battles.
if you have them replaced im sure its not by means of ccp or just "spawned in a system "
i agree, it would take a massive, no, gargantuan lie to even come close to the gravity that troll represents. i think the nc's corpulence will be their doom and this bloated fight in 6NJ seems to prove it.
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darius mclever
Gallente Merchants of Lore
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:29:00 -
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Dear Mister Vuk Lau,
I am quite new to this whole capital and supercapital thingie, but I have 2 questions on game mechanics and procedures for you.
From what I gathered there had been API verified killmails and that should mean those had been legit kills.
1. So on what base did you put your petition that those randomly spawned ships belong to the NC and not the first person who found it?
2. Assuming those had been legit kills, I assume your pilots also got insurance payout. When the GM returned the ships to you, did they remove the insurance money from their wallets?
Thank you in advance for answering those questions, I just want to understand the game better.
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: LadyScarlet i don't need to bet because
1. take gms usually a week or more to sort petitions ( unless you got one in your back pocket )
2. sc's floating in space would have to be docked by a gm for them to be in a station seems far fetched
3. you getting your **** back that fast would cause epic ****fest in ccp for all those who h ave lost sc's in the past in lagg battles.
if you have them replaced im sure its not by means of ccp or just "spawned in a system "
1. We didnt got them back from petition, i said that more then once 2. Read again what I already wrote. Tzad avatar is taken by hostiles, country is still on work so Coji boarded his titan, Capataz boarded his, and I dont know who is babysiting other titans, but I can find out that too. I never said we found them all. 3. I say again we didnt got them tru petitions, and I dont recall Molle getting his Titan back in E-O which was perfectly valid kill, caused any turmoils in CCP, nor rage in community.
If you are so sure lets bet as I said, I am sure isk is not an issue for you. 100 bil bet ok?
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Zeekar
Amarr Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: LadyScarlet i don't need to bet because
1. take gms usually a week or more to sort petitions ( unless you got one in your back pocket )
2. sc's floating in space would have to be docked by a gm for them to be in a station seems far fetched
3. you getting your **** back that fast would cause epic ****fest in ccp for all those who h ave lost sc's in the past in lagg battles.
if you have them replaced im sure its not by means of ccp or just "spawned in a system "
1. We didnt got them back from petition, i said that more then once 2. Read again what I already wrote. Tzad avatar is taken by hostiles, country is still on work so Coji boarded his titan, Capataz boarded his, and I dont know who is babysiting other titans, but I can find out that too. I never said we found them all. 3. I say again we didnt got them tru petitions, and I dont recall Molle getting his Titan back in E-O which was perfectly valid kill, caused any turmoils in CCP, nor rage in community.
If you are so sure lets bet as I said, I am sure isk is not an issue for you. 100 bil bet ok?
Ill take your bet. Send me a mail with details.
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2010.06.17 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever Dear Mister Vuk Lau,
I am quite new to this whole capital and supercapital thingie, but I have 2 questions on game mechanics and procedures for you.
From what I gathered there had been API verified killmails and that should mean those had been legit kills.
1. So on what base did you put your petition that those randomly spawned ships belong to the NC and not the first person who found it?
2. Assuming those had been legit kills, I assume your pilots also got insurance payout. When the GM returned the ships to you, did they remove the insurance money from their wallets?
Thank you in advance for answering those questions, I just want to understand the game better.
I never disputed any of the kills, tho its obvious that was not normal circuimstances, but as I already said more then couple of times - props to WN for bringing it.
1. Cause game is fubared, and players should not pay the price for that
2. GM didnt returned ships to anyone, and for the record insurance on titans is 500-600 mil :p
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