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Adrasteia Reiko	Posted - 2010.08.15 16:37:00 - [271] I say unite and kill em all!!! They want the cure its in my machine guns
Jay Marshall Caldari Walks Forever Trade Inc	Posted - 2010.08.15 17:55:00 - [272] I have been watching, monitoring and assessing information as it has been coming in. From my corporations own small encounters with Sansha to our recent encounter with the tower in Isikemi I have see much conjecture, wild ideas and indeed rather far fetched reasoning. We know that the Sansha are not what the majority of us would call normal. The greater majority seems to be against their ideology and indeed methodology. We see their kidnapping of people as an affront to us, to our way of life. They claim they are freeing those trapped by our way of thinking, but we donÆt see it as being freed. Indeed many see it as enslavement, a loss of ones will to the greater collective that is the Nation. We have seen examples of this in their cybernetic monstrosities that pilot their ships and indeed one has to wonder how a group who claims to be freeing people so that they are free of all problems can claim that by turning said freed people into cybernetic slaves to pilot their ships is ôfreedomö. I am sure that NationÆs representatives will claim it is for the greater good, or that those that are ôenhancedö like that are volunteers, selflessly sacrificing themselves to bring the Nation to its rightful place. Anyone who would willingly sacrifice their very humanity to that extreme, in my opinion, doesnÆt need to flying a ship, they need to be in a bed, on medication and being heavily monitored. I am sure one could argue the same for many of our own pilots, but at least we still show the trappings of humanity, living with our passions, our emotions, something Nation doesnÆt seem to want. Instead, to quote Mr. Runehouse, they want to ôstripö from us that which makes each of us different. I give you a speech I heard from a Nation indoctrination video we scavenged from one of their transports carrying ôfreed peopleö to whatever gruesome fate was awaiting them. Of the two hundred we got off the ships, only eight managed to re-integrate into modern society. The others just sit catatonic on their beds awaiting instructions. We donÆt know what was done to them, but our best med tech are administering to them at this time. I congratulate you. At last peace reigns in out time At last war is but word whose meaning fades from our understanding. At last we are at home. Those of the Nation. There is a disease in the heart of man. Its symptom is hate. Its symptom is anger. Its symptom is rage. Its symptom is war. The disease is human emotion. But those of Nation. I congratulate you. For there is a cure for this disease. At the cost of the dizzying highs of human emotion, we have suppressed its abysmal lows. You as a society have embraced this cure. Now we are at peace with ourselves, and humankind is one. War is gone. Hate, a memory. We are our own conscience now, and it is this conscience that guides us to free others so that they too can embrace the cure. You have won. Against all odds, and your own natures, you have survived. This vid was playing on a continual loop in all compartments that the people onboard the ship. These compartments where the people were strapped into chairs, staring blank faced at the vid screen, monitors attached to their temples and zombie like technicians wandering around. We were unable to find out whatever this cure was, but technicians managed to destroy a healthy amount of equipment and drugs before we got onboard after disabling the engines. Sansha is not us. We the majority it seems reject its ideology. We do not want it, nor do the vast majority of the settled worlds of the empire and the territories outside them. What right does Nation have to kidnap, steal and mentally traumatize our fellow people? I say none. The majority says none. Its time the majority stood shoulder to shoulder and removed Nation. We did it once, we merely need to do it again. ------------------------ CEO Walks Forever Trade Inc
Mrs Maltaproject	Posted - 2010.08.18 11:35:00 - [273] guys look they're going to be easy kills, theyre using shield repping carriers with armor tanking dreads and titans, we all get titan KM's \o/
KoffeeKup Caldari Azule Dragoons Sspectre	Posted - 2010.08.18 11:40:00 - [274] We capsuleers are obviously one thing..... We are a weapon We were trained to kill, to overpower, out date, and destroy everything in our way. Now is the time to reach our full potential and be what we were made to be. Gods among men. Immortal and indestructible. the weakest of us can fly a frigate alone, the most powerful of us can pilot constructs of such size that humanity has never even been capable of making until now. We can clone ourselves to infinity and do the work of hundreds of men. Sansha will run out of slaves, even if they strip trillions of people from their worlds we can still remain. Be *BOLD* pilots, a hundred deaths and rebirths await us in the near future.And each incarnation will be more terrible than the last.
PHPR Freighter Minmatar Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.20 05:34:00 - [275] After doing some very very light research, doesn't the nation have more enemies then just the Empires? I am reading through some historical records about who the Nation has for allies, but I cannot say much other then they have possibly the Covenant as allies. Please correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't this escalate to a much larger event if he managed to talk with contacts inside the Guristas, Covenant, Serpentis, and the Cartel? If he has access to sleeper technology, wouldn't he also find a way to control the rogue drones? -------- I am Anti-Macro, I am Anti-Roadkill, I am Anti-Asshats. This is just personal standings, not those of any corps or alliances I may join. -Insert KB here-
Scorpio365 Gallente Dark Viper Industries	Posted - 2010.08.20 06:32:00 - [276] Caldari vs. Gallente Minmatar vs. Amarr WE HAVE ALL LOST!!!! A great deal are these conflicts between us! But we stand to lose everything, If we do not stop fighting and work together!!!
Sgt Hallard	Posted - 2010.08.22 15:19:00 - [277] Hey, more ratting!!!
Amadeus Gaila	Posted - 2010.08.23 04:17:00 - [278] Hello. I have this weird fuzzy sensation reading how all you guys are actually role playing this. I would like to know more about the philosophy of this game. i do know very well, but the degree of acting in this thread makes it look like there's a lot going on in th e backgrounds (governments, secret techs, masterminds and consipracy theories...) i would like to have these questions answered by you guys: 1- Are you referring to the Sansha nation as Human Pilots or as the NPC ships? as far as the fleet in the picture in concerned. 2-if they are NPCs, are they self-controlled and plan policies and attacks on their own? 3- i always thought that politics, governments and such are all background stories and what actually happens in game is player driven and benefit centered. However, reading ur comments, it feels like players are following the traditional war policies as in the background stories... or are these NPC pilots and not players.. thanks for sharing.
Savasaan Todaro Caldari Black Lotus Heavy Industries Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2010.08.23 04:52:00 - [279] Edited by: Savasaan Todaro on 23/08/2010 04:56:55 Please tell it's time again to gang up on Sansha and blow them into a fine dust? perhaps thi On another note, perhaps this is the start of the Talocan Invasion, our overseers in deep space have vanished and their racially closest active people, in terms of technology and mindset, have assembled a great fleet to assist them. The Sansha never runs out of people. They are indeed fighting, but not us, not the four Empires it seems. They are drafting these "kidnapees" the True Slaves are dieing out, but from what? What could make the Jove vanish, and challenge the might of the Sansha Nation!? The people of New Eden! Prepare for Invasion!!!
Amadeus Gaila	Posted - 2010.08.23 23:33:00 - [280] can anyone help me understand please? ^
Usagi Tsukino Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.08.24 01:11:00 - [281] Originally by: Amadeus Gaila can anyone help me understand please? ^ ((Check your in game mail.)) ___ *Chaotic Dreams*
Dilaro thagriin	Posted - 2010.08.24 06:59:00 - [282] Originally by: Ghost Hunter And yet this great wrath stops cold in its tracks against CONCORD. It is not us this posturing should be directed to. you seem to forget here, that in the eyes of CONCORD, the sansha's nation are criminals, and have a DED bounty upon their heads. your master, and his army of unthinking minions are fodder for our cannons, and slushfund money for all capsuleers who choose to take a pop at you. correct, we are outmatched by CONCORD, but if you are claiming that they would protect sansha's assets, or allies, then you are hiding behind jovian tech... hiding behind the very things you claim to hate, and that you claim are the problem. once again, hipocrisy. the more i read, the more i am convinced of simple tyrannical dreams being the basis of sansha's doctrine.
Arvo Katsuya Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.08.24 08:02:00 - [283] Originally by: Dilaro thagriin Originally by: Ghost Hunter And yet this great wrath stops cold in its tracks against CONCORD. It is not us this posturing should be directed to. you seem to forget here, that in the eyes of CONCORD, the sansha's nation are criminals, and have a DED bounty upon their heads. your master, and his army of unthinking minions are fodder for our cannons, and slushfund money for all capsuleers who choose to take a pop at you. correct, we are outmatched by CONCORD, but if you are claiming that they would protect sansha's assets, or allies, then you are hiding behind jovian tech... hiding behind the very things you claim to hate, and that you claim are the problem. once again, hipocrisy. the more i read, the more i am convinced of simple tyrannical dreams being the basis of sansha's doctrine. Why go to the extent to quote something Ghost said two months ago, now? Thank you for showing your true colors here. I will reply to your questions on my thread as soon as I can, but I realize after you replied here, that no matter what I say or prove otherwise, the notion of Nation being evil to you is too far heavily indoctrinated in your mind. Unfortunately, CONCORD is as corrupt as they come, and you seem to be only in it for the ISK. Why are you telling them what to fly? Caldari do fly Gallente, and vice versa. Same with Amarr with Minmatar. The more open-minded will utilize ship hulls to their best advantage, even it is made by who they view is an enemy. The Jove are no exception, and their ships are superior over all in technology. This is what makes them feared.
Kalashnikiov	Posted - 2010.08.26 16:54:00 - [284] Personally, I think a direct attack on Jita, although it would be devastating, is not feasable, seeing that every day thousands of people go through the system for trading. The response by pilots would be quiet possibly large enough to inflict massive casualties on the Nation. Also a pilot in Amarr is less than 20 jumps from Jita so not only the people in system but those around it would help. I would susspect that the Nation in the near future would start to hit more immortant targets farther away from Caldari space (if they havent started yet). Say an attack on the Tash system or Amarr would be a devastating blow to Amarr trading in their empire. And maybe the Jove are wanting to study us for a war, well, we could always bring the war to them since they may have the technology but we have the numbers.
Karishnikov	Posted - 2010.08.26 17:03:00 - [285] Personally, I think a direct attack on Jita, although it would be devastating, is not feasable, seeing that every day thousands of people go through the system for trading. The response by pilots would be quiet possibly large enough to inflict massive casualties on the Nation. Also a pilot in Amarr is less than 20 jumps from Jita so not only the people in system but those around it would help. I would susspect that the Nation in the near future would start to hit more immortant targets farther away from Caldari space (if they havent started yet). Say an attack on the Tash system or Amarr would be a devastating blow to Amarr trading in their empire. And maybe the Jove are wanting to study us for a war, well, we could always bring the war to them since they may have the technology but we have the numbers.
ISECHS4ISK Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2010.08.29 04:24:00 - [286] Mmmm. Yeahh. Spread your asteroid for me. You like it when I deep core mine like that. Mmm. Yeah.
Vivien Sureflight	Posted - 2010.08.31 02:23:00 - [287] From what's been said here, it appears that Nation wishes to, what, wipe out our free will? Control everything? And there have been innumerable calls to arms, "Capsuleers unite!", "All against one!". So my question is, what is your free will worth to you? If the empires want capsuleer intervention, fine. But it's going to cost them. These are the empires that vilify me and my brothers, that force us into the far corners of their space because we refuse to bend to their laws. The only thing I owe to the empires is a well-placed plasma round up their respective posteriors. But I'm not an unreasonable woman. Hard ISK can induce amazing amounts of forgetfulness. __________________________________ Give a man some fire and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life...
PleasureBabe PorNstars Inc	Posted - 2010.09.01 10:03:00 - [288] Is this for real or yet again some RP bullcrap?
Infinion Caldari Endless Destruction Imperial 0rder	Posted - 2010.09.10 03:55:00 - [289] Originally by: PleasureBabe Is this for real or yet again some RP bullcrap? this is quite real. You would believe it if you saw so yourself
Clytemnestra Nor	Posted - 2010.09.12 17:48:00 - [290] Ok - where do I go again to experience this horror? Stain, wormholes, 0.0? I do want to see for myself. Who has the road map?
Rabbit Blacksun Gallente Space Reclamation Corporation	Posted - 2010.09.14 15:44:00 - [291] I would say ... Worm Hole or maybe jita since that was mentioned some where in some upcoming event. But yeah WH be your best bet xD as for me ... im taking my BS an heading for deep black :P
Eris Davion	Posted - 2010.09.14 18:42:00 - [292] Originally by: Fournone So the sansha have fleet, they hacked into a CONCORD ship, are nearing the 13 million mark on thier mass kidnapping, are in Jove space, and the empires think the Nation is not a threat. That about some it up? No more a threat than each other, at least. I think the blame for that rests as much apon the various militias as it does with the formal leaders of the empires themselves.
evildrone1	Posted - 2010.09.16 19:32:00 - [293] where is this to happen ?
Caspardian	Posted - 2010.09.21 00:17:00 - [294] My thoughts on this an more at this thread. I think it's a theory that could hold some water. I'd like to hear what others have to say.
Anika Mobius Solid State Security	Posted - 2010.09.26 04:22:00 - [295] CCP has tipped their hat - Anika Mobius - CEO Solid State Security [3SX]

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Dreadius Rajal	Posted - 2010.10.01 05:02:00 - [297] LOLs you wanna walk into that http://go-dl3.eve-files.com/media/1006/Mouse.Nell.Wormhole.Probe.Huttaken.IV.jpg good luck to you and btw when did jovians fly wyverns avatars and nightmares ?
Caspardian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2010.10.04 01:00:00 - [298] Originally by: Dreadius Rajal LOLs you wanna walk into that http://go-dl3.eve-files.com/media/1006/Mouse.Nell.Wormhole.Probe.Huttaken.IV.jpg good luck to you and btw when did jovians fly wyverns avatars and nightmares ? ... They never did. That's a Sansha fleet.
Caspardian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2010.10.04 01:06:00 - [299] Originally by: Eris Davion Originally by: Fournone So the sansha have fleet, they hacked into a CONCORD ship, are nearing the 13 million mark on thier mass kidnapping, are in Jove space, and the empires think the Nation is not a threat. That about some it up? No more a threat than each other, at least. I think the blame for that rests as much apon the various militias as it does with the formal leaders of the empires themselves. 13 million really isn't a lot when you think about how many people live in New Eden, too. For the most part the empires are still the greatest threats to each other.
Gustaph Brackman	Posted - 2010.11.11 08:18:00 - [300] After going through this entire discussion and consolidating what i believe to be the more... shall we say... important facts regarding the intel released by The Nation I've come up with a few thoughts, or more correctly, concerns. 1) Sansha's Nation has already demonstrated that they are in possession of a Jovian financial vault Kuvakai made it clear that he is in possession of a Jovian station in the heartlands of Jovian territory. Now while the nature of the station, a financial vault, dismisses most concerns of it housing Jovian armaments or ships, we are left with still no way whatsoever to confirm that this is the only station of Jovian origin now controlled by The Nation. My concern is that The Nation, having made it clear that they've breached Jovian borders, has no doubt only shown us but a fraction of their progress within Jovian space and may very well control much larger areas of territory than we're lead to believe. 2) Sansha's Nation has demonstrated that they possess considerable firepower as well as Capitol class ships within Jovian space My concern here is not that i wish to argue over the power of the fleet we've been shown (the one orbiting the previously mentioned Prosper Vault), but rather it's numbers and ship compositions. The Nation fleet pictured has already been shown as having a rather signifigant level of Capitol ship support as well as sub-Capitol vessels numbering in the thousands... In Jovian space... I would imagine that it's safe to assume the mix of Capitol vessels were not aquired through theft within the Empires but through the same means as any of the other Alliances would apply. Construction. My question though is where was such a fleet constructed? In the Stain Region? In Nation space?... Given the level of influence the other Capsuleer Alliances have in the outer regions i find it hard to believe that such a fleet could be constructed in Stain or moved at once to Jovian space for that matter, without someone seeing it until now. My concern here is that the facilities, resources and time required would prevent all of the above without being seen in the process and therefore, it seems the fleet may then have been constructed within Jovian space instead... the one place the Capsuleer's eyes don't often wander... If that were the case, given the reports of "conflicts" between The Nation and Jovian's only weeks ago it would be impossible for that many Titan class vessels to be already constructed and operational in the aftermath while unfeasable to attempt construction while engaged in hostilities. The only way I can imagine such a feat being achieved is through Jovian assistance, but that too wouldn't fit with the recent supposed conflicts... leading me to believe them to be a ruse or simply faulty information and that perhaps the Jovians and The Nation are now allies. 3) The Nation has fleets, stations and possibly allies in the Jovians yet we expect CONCORD devices in empire space to prevent fleet operation I read earlier that one "ace in the hole" as it were we had over any Capitol fleet incursion into Empire space from The Nation was that they'd be subject to the same jamming of Capitol class operation as any other faction would when in Empire or CONCORD controlled space. Now while this may stand true to any standard blueprint vessel, i stated earlier that we may be against ships augmented with Jovian tech and it's no secret that the Jovians have shown their superiority over the other Empires many times before (e.g. The Jovian mothership vs. The Ammatar Fleet). CONCORD however, has their tech constructed using the best parts of all non-Jovian tech... all of which has had it's inferiority proven against Jovian tech before. So we may actually end up against a fleet not only augmented to circumvent CONCORD jamming, but what happens if a Nation Titan jumps into Jita with a remake of Jovian Mothership Weaponry?

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