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Saphss
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Posted - 2010.06.30 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia A magical Legion with one hell of an Autocannon bonus and 125Mb drone bandwidth. 
Ill take 4 and can i get a Frigate with Fighter Bombers and a Jump Drive?
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Takashi Halamoto
No Limit Productions Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.06.30 08:17:00 -
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Acting on behalf of Mr TaliZ88 my client would like to respond to the vile slander here that implies it would take him more than 30 seconds to kill such a horribly fit ship 
but yeah lovely fake data, Ogre2's and Ac's on a legion, i wish (really i do) now i was going to make a comment about how the word cruiser or the fact its cruiser sized does not make it equal to all cruisers and shouldnt but you wont listen to thoughtout arguments you just yell IM RIGHTZ! LOOK AT ME! and we are and we are laughing at you because funny enough we know what we are talking about you just rant and lie, the first is laughable, the second contemptible Me? im just sitting here,
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JC Anderson
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.30 08:19:00 -
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I'm just going to assume the op was flying a shuttle.
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Mari Seles
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Posted - 2010.06.30 08:25:00 -
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Geez you go to bed and all the cool action happens... too funny really.
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Balsak
Minmatar Friends of Bigfoot
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Posted - 2010.06.30 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Mari Seles Geez you go to bed and all the cool action happens... too funny really.
It's like christmas 
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Ava Starfire
Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr
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Posted - 2010.06.30 12:26:00 -
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updated tl;dr OP nerdrages about a T3 owning his poorly T1 fit...something (industrial?)
Is called on his horribly edited combat log, facing a legion equipped with ACs and 5 Ogre IIs (Ill take 10, please)
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Aldarica
Spinal Discipline
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Posted - 2010.06.30 12:48:00 -
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Edited by: Aldarica on 30/06/2010 12:52:02 Is this the one? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4896441
edit: ah, probably not, sorry... there's some Maller killed and TaliZ88 is involved but that's not the situation as OP described.
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Saelie
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Posted - 2010.06.30 12:54:00 -
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Also, that Maller had a decent bait-Maller fit.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ava Starfire updated tl;dr OP nerdrages about a T3 owning his poorly T1 fit...something (industrial?)
Is called on his horribly edited combat log, facing a legion equipped with ACs and 5 Ogre IIs (Ill take 10, please)
Good times were had by all.
I'm just amazed that he fell into the exact same trap twice. At least the last time, his log was plausible (and showed that he was wrong), so when he now tries to come across as not knowing how to post said logs and then doctoring them up to this degree, it really feels like a let-downą 
Many troll points deducted for that one. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |

Roosterton
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Posted - 2010.06.30 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 30/06/2010 14:02:34 I haven't bothered to read all 8 pages of troll-feeding and counter-troll feeding, so I don't know if I'm the first to bring this up...
But a T3 ship costs 500mil+ when fully fitted. They aren't insurable. That's around the same price as a BlackOps battleship, and some of the cheaper Tier 1 faction battleships. WHY THE **** SHOULD THEY NOT WIPE THE FLOOR WITH T1 CRUISERS, which cost just over 20mil when you have them rigged and fully insurable?
You said they're 25x better than T1 ships? How about you consider the fact that they're 25x the cost, too?
5x better than a T2 cruiser? It's 5x the cost. Funny how well it works out.
I'd wager a good Curse or Rook pilot against a Proteus pilot any day, to be honest. That same Curse can also work well against a Loki, depending on how it's fit. A Rook might not be able to catch the Loki, but it can sure as hell scare one away. Sniper Loki with "10,000 DPS?" I solo'ed one on the test server in my Cynabal. Or what about the Laserlegion? Again, Curse, Rook...
And so on. I didn't mention T1 ships, but those could work as well - a few arbitrators and two blackbirds could probably take down a blaster Proteus with little difficulty, And none of them will die.
Seriously, get a clue.
EDIT: Oh, and btw, a T3 can be trained to use well in about 40 days. If you have the cash, go for it, I hear those are good at killing T3s. 
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Hecatonis
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.30 14:17:00 -
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i guess Ekrid is trying to promote his new drink line, Dr. Log with 32 flavours of fail.
10/10 it took a day, but the results of this thread are great.
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JC Anderson
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.30 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Aldarica Edited by: Aldarica on 30/06/2010 12:52:02 Is this the one? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4896441
edit: ah, probably not, sorry... there's some Maller killed and TaliZ88 is involved but that's not the situation as OP described.
Did the Maller do it in 4 seconds flat as well? And was the OP unlucky enough to come upon a MAGICAL Maller using 10 t2 Ogres like that of the magical T3?
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Xtreem
Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.30 14:48:00 -
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1 black bird and 2 vex
all fitted with t1 would pwn up a t3 cruiser with just a few t1 nuets and drones and some jamming support.
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Shade Millith
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.06.30 15:14:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Millith on 30/06/2010 15:15:08
Originally by: Roosterton Sniper Loki with "10,000 DPS?" I solo'ed one on the test server in my Cynabal. Or what about the Laserlegion? Again, Curse, Rook...
I've solo killed 2 lokis in a drake on tranq, and something like a full neut myrm I'd wager would have a VERY decent shot 1v1 with a proteus/legion ------------------------
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Roosterton
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Posted - 2010.06.30 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Shade Millith Edited by: Shade Millith on 30/06/2010 15:15:08
Originally by: Roosterton Sniper Loki with "10,000 DPS?" I solo'ed one on the test server in my Cynabal. Or what about the Laserlegion? Again, Curse, Rook...
I've solo killed 2 lokis in a drake on tranq, and something like a full neut myrm I'd wager would have a VERY decent shot 1v1 with a proteus/legion
Exactly, just like with any other ship class, if you choose fights carefully, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to kill T3s.
The OP is too close-minded to see that, though.
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Itak Kaarta
B.O.O.M Obsidian Mining Coalition
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Posted - 2010.06.30 15:43:00 -
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I approve of this thread.
Seriously - this is "tick, tock" levels of failure.
We wander in and out of our heads, no turn unstoned, all words unsaid.
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Danny Lonnegan
Caldari Nex Somes Ubertas Venator Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.06.30 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton Edited by: Roosterton on 30/06/2010 14:02:34 I haven't bothered to read all 8 pages of troll-feeding and counter-troll feeding, so I don't know if I'm the first to bring this up...
But a T3 ship costs 500mil+ when fully fitted. They aren't insurable. That's around the same price as a BlackOps battleship, and some of the cheaper Tier 1 faction battleships. WHY THE **** SHOULD THEY NOT WIPE THE FLOOR WITH T1 CRUISERS, which cost just over 20mil when you have them rigged and fully insurable?
As near as I can tell, OP's argument is that cost-balancing is broken because rich people can buy plex cards with real money and buy whatever they want.
Of course, this argument applies to every ship in the game that costs more than a T1 frigate, plus T2/faction/officer/deadspace mods and implants. Also, OP is terrible at EVE and refuses to accept that his 12,000 EHP Maller was laughably fail-fit and would have died to a Rifter.
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Aurelius Valentius
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.30 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Aurelius Valentius on 30/06/2010 16:58:07
OP's argument is that cost-balancing is broken because rich people can buy plex cards with real money and buy whatever they want.
This argument (OPs) is full of lame-sauce, and so is the OP.
I am unemployed (eg-not rich at all) and I buy PLEX all the time with... *dum dum dum*... ISK... using a little known thing called *dum dum dum DUM!!!* - WORK, I work for ISK with: ISK making work - DAH DAH DAH DUM!!!!!!* Amazing how one can buy things IF one spends some time making ISK in game with WORK.
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Helio Amor
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Posted - 2010.06.30 17:16:00 -
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More whiners then a maternity ward....*HITS COMEDIC DRUMS* bah bom....anyone....? Ok ill go back to day time job 
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Paul Castrin
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.06.30 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Paul Castrin on 30/06/2010 17:25:53
Originally by: 1Ekrid1 T3 ships. seriously. they can kill a T1 cruiser in 4 seconds flat, with drones and tech II weapons.
Stopped reading here.
Just about anything bigger than a cruiser (or higher than T1) can kill a T1 cruiser in x seconds. Cruisers suffer as the most underwhelming and unloved ship class in EVE and can be killed by AFs flown by low skilled monkeys (assuming you are inept as well).
Your comparison/complaint is therefor rendered moot.
Peace.
p.s. and yes, I fly them and BCs more than anything cause I'm a glutton for punishment, so bleehh.

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LQven
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Posted - 2010.06.30 17:28:00 -
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The only way CCP ruined this game is by letting the OP post/play. Another incredibly idiotic rant.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.06.30 17:34:00 -
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I have to admit op is pretty succesfull troll.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.30 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 I have to admit op is pretty succesfull troll.
Not particularly. A successful troll wouldn't have been suckered into posting logsą twice. A successful troll would actually have had a somewhat plausible story, and be able to stick with it without forgetting what he said a page earlier and thus accidentally contradicting himsel. A successful troll would have managed to bow out at page #2 or so and stirred up so much ire that it still reached 8 pages.
A successful troll wouldn't have had his main posting char banned from the forums. A troll that gets banned is a failtroll by very definitioną  ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |

Saelie
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Posted - 2010.06.30 18:44:00 -
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I think my best troll to date was back in the old pre-EVE days, on an Ultima Online discussion forum. I started a topic with a little three-paragraph thought and went to bed. Woke up, the thread was 15 pages long full of irate people attacking each other. I was quite proud of it, even though I wasn't trying to troll - I'd just touched a nerve.
This troll provides decent amusement, especially the fake log.
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Baneken
Gallente Aseveljet
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Posted - 2010.06.30 19:21:00 -
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For the record MH tag is [RAWR] not MMH or something and logs don't always show your opponents 'tags' like when I lost my Ishkur against Dramiel and another Ishkur... Only Ishkur pilots 'tags' were in the log and that in the last line of the combat log. Not a bad fight though and my little Ishkur lasted far longer then I had figured it would.
That kill mail was rather funny though my first thought was "how in the hell can those ogre II's miss if medium auto cannons score 1000's a shot". 
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Danny Lonnegan
Caldari Nex Somes Ubertas Venator Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.06.30 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Aurelius Valentius Edited by: Aurelius Valentius on 30/06/2010 16:58:07
OP's argument is that cost-balancing is broken because rich people can buy plex cards with real money and buy whatever they want.
This argument (OPs) is full of lame-sauce, and so is the OP.
I am unemployed (eg-not rich at all) and I buy PLEX all the time with... *dum dum dum*... ISK... using a little known thing called *dum dum dum DUM!!!* - WORK, I work for ISK with: ISK making work - DAH DAH DAH DUM!!!!!!* Amazing how one can buy things IF one spends some time making ISK in game with WORK.
To be fair, there are guys who just break out the credit card every time they want something shiny. But that's a fact of life in every MMO. Unless CCP eliminates ISK and player-to-player trading entirely and only seeded ships in loyalty point stores, people with real-world money to spend on EVE have a theoretical advantage.
Of course, if someone spends $50 US on a Legion and then gets it blown up, he's out $50 real world dollars. That's a lot more satisfying than just killing someone's pixel spaceship.
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Ryan Darkwolf
Amarr Sins Of Lost Souls Einherjar Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.30 20:54:00 -
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TL;DR : You fail and thats all there is to it.
Just a little info in case you are a little too dur dur dur for everyone else...you realize that the strategic cruisers are made from sleeper parts, which are incredibly higher teched than the current empires, meaning that the ships made from higher tech would make them...I dunno...stronger than tech 2 or tech 1...
I mean they are concidered tech 3...that to me sounds like its supposed to be stronger.
Just wait until they make tech 3 weapon systems that can fire doomsday weapon blasts
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.06.30 20:55:00 -
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I think statwise T3 ships are pretty much where they should be, the perceived "OP"-ness is, imo, due to their price and the fact that they are the best "small" ship.
The result is that these ships are almost exclusively flown by capable PvP pilots with fat wallets backing them up. They have implants, they have faction mods, and they know what they're doing. And that's worth so much more than the slightly better stats of a T3 hull.
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2010.06.30 21:50:00 -
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the thing i find with T3 i s there pimp in Wormholes other than that i have only used it for a few kills, im not rich enough to throw it at stuff yet
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.30 22:42:00 -
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Excellent troll! See how many more pages you can keep Akita and the others hanging on for the promise of a killmail!
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