I recall a dev comment that with the advent of 64bit item ID, it's possible to have maker's marks on produced goods.

Extending that, I like some of the ideas in response to the OTEC ad - get "real tech" for quality components: downgrade parts made using alchemy.

I would not mind meta levels for T2 parts, that would be based on the number of production steps involved in making the part.

But, because any T2 part should in some way be better than T1 meta 4, the difference between meta levels of T2 parts might not matter much, given that the stats for current T2 parts (high meta in a new system) should not change.

Huh, we haven't even kicked you out of your space yet, and you're crying this badly?

but you've waited too long. The goons have shown you they can do whatever they want to you, and the rest of us must suffer through it.

Don't worry, really, as soon these changes hit, the average CFC grunt is going to suffer badly. Sure there are trillions of isks in the hands of a couple of alliances, but those isk's are in the hands of only a minority of players.

You think they are going to subside the alliance running costs, reimbursement programs and tons of other stuff, with their own wallets ?...

Pity the entire playerbase didn't tell them before it went live, eh?

And you guys called mittens delusional. Oy vey do I have news for you.

The end goal is for the materials for tech two production to come from player activities that require group gameplay and risk taking, and that provide appropriate rewards.

We have allies, not pets.

If the numbers in the blog are real

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100 Cobalt and 100 Platinum
reacts into
1 Unrefined Platinum Technite
refines into
10 Platinum Technite
and
95 Platinum
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you basically use 100 Cobalt and 5 Platinum to get just 10 Platinum Technite per reaction cycle (= POS Cycle = 1 hour, i take it).
At current values, you would be loosing money not only on the pure reaction, but also on the fuel needed for that reactor/refineries bzw refining taxes etc.
To break even, the Tech Price (and with that the Platinum Technite price) would have to at least rise by 500% to make it worthwile to do this alchemy reaction.. This surely isnt a way to force prices down, if thats at all necessary.

right dont they all have allies?

or are you suggesting that all those allies are on equal footing as GSF and Test?

i would not presume so... if push came to shove they would quickly become pets and have thier moons removed if they did not preform up to your standards...

this happened a few months ago with black something or other...

so if anything they are second class allies...

Allies: get stuff to do more stuff.
Pets: pay for stuff.

vOv

The most I would classify your allies would be "vassal" allies...

timeline

PL allies with drone peeps and raiden to take out the nothern coalition...

they then set thier eyes on cfc but that fails HARD!

Eventually when it looks like raiden and friends cant hold thier space...

PL get an offer fro CFC saying we will let you keep your Tech moons if you play nice and fight for us...

so yeah... no one gave you tech PL... but you are now a member of the cfc and mittenz allowed you to keep them...

so admit it if you step out of line you loose your tech and loose your reinbursement program and then fighting becomes an actual risky adventure...

as a first step alchemy is a good one...

i am more interested in how they are going to rebalance tech II production costs... thats going to be the real Tech nerf...

How little you understand. Let's dumb it down for you. You're probably the type of kid that was always picked on at recess, so lets say your balls finally dropped and you decided to get some stronger friends so you wouldn't be picked on anymore. Now lets say your BFF, Timmy, also wants to join your group, but when you go fight the other kids, Timmy sits in a corner, shaking and mumbling like a sperg, probably like what you used to do. If Timmy keeps doing that, will you keep him in your circle of friends? No.

Just as in the coalition, every member is expected to perform the basic duties of showing up to coalition wide operations in a force equal to at least their size. If they do not, then they're given a period to correct that, if they continue to disregard orders, then they're purged.
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So i guess in reality your timeline isn't really accurate at all, along with your jaded opinion of the facts. I mean you could at least put a little effort and creativity into your hurf blurf.

And?

I mean as long as the GǣSpiceGǥ flows you guys are all buddy buddyGǪ

Just understand that after a tech Nerf (right now that has yet to happen) things will changeGǪ

Plus if ring mining for moon mins becomes a reality expect that to keep your space you will have to pay a holding tax of some sortGǪ

Then the niche market you have will no longer exist and at that point there will be trepidation and backstabbingGǪ

Well the difference is the nature of how a true ally works vs. what you have setup...

There is nothing wrong with it...

ItGÇÖs just the way it works...

I just donGÇÖt like you claiming you are any different then any of the other coalitions that have all risen and fallen in the past. When in reality you are the same just under different circumstances which allow you to be nicer and more lenient to your petsGǪ But when tech II production is fixed I would be shocked if you were able to continue the way you operateGǪ The only genuine people I have seen keep this up over the years are the Providence holdersGǪ

Confirming that as soon as moonmining is nerfed and there is nothing to be gained from holding moons, we will attack GSF to take their moons.

Oh wait.

you wont see goons doing active ring mining ops and then giving their hard earned isk to you just for nothing...

I guess if you conveniently ignore the fact that Goonswarm has pretty much always operated this way before tech was even a bottleneck. Hell, we only have tech now because we kept on good terms with TCF (an ally) instead of treating them like crap. I'm not sure what kind of relationship you'd like us to have with our allies but its certainly not going to be a democracy. At the end of the day you need somone at the top to make decisions or you're going to get your **** pushed in while you sit there counting votes.

I just donGÇÖt like you claiming you are any different then any of the other coalitions that have all risen and fallen in the past.

When in reality you are the same just under different circumstances which allow you to be nicer and more lenient to your petsGǪ

But when tech II production is fixed I would be shocked if you were able to continue the way you operateGǪ

Personally I do hope that parts of the CFC collapse

This doesn't happen now, so why would it happen then?

Are you mentally ill?

Nope. We treated our allies the same way back before we had tech.

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