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Cathrine Kenchov
Ice Cold Ellites
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:31:00 -
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Oh, sounds like a perfect opportunity to by Cobolt....
And its gone. |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
163
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:32:00 -
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oh well it was a good run while it lasted
~otec forever~ |
dev0n
Carbon Circle The Methodical Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:32:00 -
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Well.. about time?
Going to be interesting to see how this plays out. |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
1159
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:33:00 -
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Ivan Ward wrote:What is technetium?
It like the spice in Dune...only with Goons instead of sandworms.
-.- |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
163
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:34:00 -
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mercuryyy wrote:If the numbers in the blog are real ssssssssssssh shut uuuuuuuuuuuuuup |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
210
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:35:00 -
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mercuryyy wrote:you basically use 100 Cobalt and 5 Platinum to get just 10 Platinum Technite per reaction cycle.
Yes, but somewhere along the way your maths has broken down, it is very worthwhile untill the market reaches a new equilibrium.
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Jafit
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
297
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:36:00 -
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mercuryyy wrote:If the numbers in the blog are real
-- 100 Cobalt and 100 Platinum reacts into 1 Unrefined Platinum Technite refines into 10 Platinum Technite and 95 Platinum -
you basically use 100 Cobalt and 5 Platinum to get just 10 Platinum Technite per reaction cycle (= POS Cycle = 1 hour, i take it). At current values, you would be loosing money not only on the pure reaction, but also on the fuel needed for that reactor/refineries bzw refining taxes etc. To break even, the Tech Price (and with that the Platinum Technite price) would have to at least rise by 500% to make it worthwile to do this alchemy reaction.. This surely isnt a way to force prices down, if thats at all necessary.
[ ] Not told [ ] Told [ ] F*cking told [ ] No Country for Told Men [ ] Told Man and the Sea [x] Knights of the Told Republic |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
717
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:36:00 -
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Quote:The end goal is for the materials for tech two production to come from player activities that require group gameplay and risk taking, and that provide appropriate rewards. This will eventually involve changes to both resource collection and the build requirements for construction of tech two materials and items.
Does this mean you are trying to eliminate sources of alliance-level income? Or is there something being planned to replace moon mining on an alliance level? |
Katrina Bekers
Rim Collection RC Test Alliance Please Ignore
127
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:36:00 -
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Cobalt already skyrocketed. Jita is dry. Time to change the reaction components, CCP... << THE RABBLE BRIGADE >> |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
102
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:36:00 -
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mercuryyy wrote:If the numbers in the blog are real
-- 100 Cobalt and 100 Platinum reacts into 1 Unrefined Platinum Technite refines into 10 Platinum Technite and 95 Platinum -
you basically use 100 Cobalt and 5 Platinum to get just 10 Platinum Technite per reaction cycle (= POS Cycle = 1 hour, i take it). At current values, you would be loosing money not only on the pure reaction, but also on the fuel needed for that reactor/refineries bzw refining taxes etc. To break even, the Tech Price (and with that the Platinum Technite price) would have to at least rise by 500% to make it worthwile to do this alchemy reaction.. This surely isnt a way to force prices down, if thats at all necessary.
From the blog:
Quote:You will notice that we are starting these reactions at the same conversion rate as the original alchemy instead of the conversion rate of current boosted alchemy. These ratios can and likely will change over subsequent releases as we adjust the system.
We have a lot of data about what happens when you release 20/1 alchemy, so we started there. |
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Kyle Ward
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
241
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:37:00 -
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Nominating for best devBlog Title of the year. The Sandbox, you're playing it wrong! |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1392
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:39:00 -
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Looks like we might have to scale back our Machariel reimbursements slightly! |
Demption
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:40:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Remember that if you like this change you should hit the "like" button on this post. I need to know if this is the kind of work the community is looking for. ;) How are you going to find out if people dislike it though, there's no dislike button. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8609
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:41:00 -
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Katrina Bekers wrote:Cobalt already skyrocketed. Jita is dry. Time to change the reaction components, CCP... Please, please, please! This! It would be hilarious! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Lilliana Stelles
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
117
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:41:00 -
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Another missed chance to invest thanks to being at work =/. |
Gumpy Nighthawk
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
16
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:42:00 -
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Quote:Ahahaha just kidding moongoo is completely broken and weGÇÖre going to fix that starting in Inferno 1.2.
No you won't, just like alchemy was supposed to be the holy grail, as you guys tried to tell us, it never really was.
Also if this means that you guys are going to manipulate the market then well you might as well remove the complete economy..... |
saaraa
Phantom Squad Nulli Secunda
0
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:44:00 -
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mercuryyy wrote:If the numbers in the blog are real
-- 100 Cobalt and 100 Platinum reacts into 1 Unrefined Platinum Technite refines into 10 Platinum Technite and 95 Platinum -
you basically use 100 Cobalt and 5 Platinum to get just 10 Platinum Technite per reaction cycle (= POS Cycle = 1 hour, i take it). At current values, you would be loosing money not only on the pure reaction, but also on the fuel needed for that reactor/refineries bzw refining taxes etc. To break even, the Tech Price (and with that the Platinum Technite price) would have to at least rise by 500% to make it worthwile to do this alchemy reaction.. This surely isnt a way to force prices down, if thats at all necessary.
100 cobalt = 78,000 5 platinum = 10.000 = 10 platinum technite = 88.000 = 8.800 pu without fuels on a large tower u can place 2 reactors with silos so 20 platium technite pr hr. Running cost for a large pos is aprox 900.000 pr hr so u add about 45.000 to price pu
8.800 + 45.000 gives us about 53.000 wich is much better then current price...
Another idea is to add a alchemy reactors with much less cpu use so fuels doesnt effect the price in such a large scale
my 2 isk...
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Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices Silent Infinity
32
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:44:00 -
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I like it, though i think a lot more variance should be available. People can still poke around with multiple mats, manipulate them. Making alternatives even with alchemy would be better addressing future manipulations, i think.
and there should be some kind of reaction for all mats. Currently technetium itself is not a catalyzator for anything, which also should be.
otherwise it sounds fun :)
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Cathrine Kenchov
Ice Cold Ellites
23
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:44:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:We have a lot of data about what happens when you release 20/1 alchemy, so we started there.
You should release a skill, or a exploration drop that reduces the ratio. Suddenly more buff to exploration! |
Illectroculus Defined
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:46:00 -
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Good thing that I rushed through that OTEC commercial while it was still relevant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSsTxJCyCpM |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
102
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:46:00 -
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Gumpy Nighthawk wrote:Quote:Ahahaha just kidding moongoo is completely broken and weGÇÖre going to fix that starting in Inferno 1.2. No you won't, just like alchemy was supposed to be the holy grail, as you guys tried to tell us, it never really was.
I completely agree that alchemy is no holy grail. It is simply a start to the process.
Alchemy has the dual benefits of being quick enough to implement right away and having a moderating influence on the market that will make phase two much easier and safer for the eve economy. |
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Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
114
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:47:00 -
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CCP is it true that Thulium is gonna be a major component in constructing DUST 514 items? I heard it is! |
Mikron Alexarr
New Age Solutions The Laughing Men
68
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:48:00 -
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Fozzie, I don't know you yet, but my first impression is excellent ^.^ Keep up the good work. Thank you for not being that dev we the players have to say, "l2p tech is broken" to :)
I also approve of your presentation style %10000. Welcome. |
Cahvus
Hedron Industries High Rollers
19
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:48:00 -
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Didn't even wait to get home from work to like this! Congrats on the first dev blog Fozzie and keep up the good work! Look forward to hearing more from you in the future.
PS give the dev responsible for live community events a friendly syringe full of adreniline for me! We need more of those awesome events! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8611
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:48:00 -
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Illectroculus Defined wrote: To be fair, now it actually makes sense: buy genuine OTEC-brand tech rather than this horrible synthetic ersatz stuff. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
289
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:49:00 -
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interesting changes, i would love to hear more about the grand scheme of things |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
661
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:49:00 -
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Cahvus wrote:Didn't even wait to get home from work to like this! Congrats on the first dev blog Fozzie and keep up the good work! Look forward to hearing more from you in the future.
PS give the dev responsible for live community events a friendly syringe full of adreniline for me! We need more of those awesome events!
NO ADRENALINE!
Noted though. I want to get some going too, and we are working on some cool ideas.
Fozzie - great first devblog! Also excellent likewhoring CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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Xenermorph
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:50:00 -
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Cobalt is the new technetium.
Jita literally just ran out of cobalt because of this post.
CCP, messing with markets since '97.
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Elecktra Blue
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:50:00 -
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"The end goal is for the materials for tech two production to come from player activities that require group gameplay and risk taking, and that provide appropriate rewards."
Yes not like a group of players took the time to grind sov, place towers, keep up the logistics of said towers, and defended them. |
Nevigrofnu Mrots
Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:51:00 -
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cobalt moons:
Period Basis 163 Querious 358
its like we had a vision...
so we just conquered the new teck lands, lol
thanks CPP
PS: Catch 434... NEXT
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