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Sealiah Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Aegis Militia	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:24:00 - [31] I find that perfectly ok if it's just the first and last name... As long as nobody wants my personal ID number or license number... I'm all for it! I don't think it is against my privacy. I think it'll kill all the stupid bumping with 10 of your alts, nonsensical loltalk posts. EVE is a game where your REPUTATION counts, make it impossible to escape from what you've done at some point - corp theft for example. And it would make a GOOD name even easier to remember. I vote YES, implement such a thing to the EVE-o forums!
Chesty McJubblies	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:24:00 - [32] Edited by: Chesty McJubblies on 07/07/2010 11:24:37 Originally by: Sekretarka I wonder how would Role Play part of the forums work with RealID... People can probably still RP the part of an ********, even with this. ( - sphincter)
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:24:00 - [33] I say do this tbh, people who hide behind alts etc fail but then again CCPs security is pretty funny you can actually change your RL details without any GM intervention I say make this a video forum where you can only talk via cam
Mistress Ingrid Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:25:00 - [34] Imagine a world where Goons have to post with their real names. Blizzards move is just a high profile case of the move towards reputation based filtering of internet user generated content. This idea has been kicking around for a long time. Berners-Lee even supported the idea of Internet licensing way back in the day. Digg and Reddit have shown the idea is one that can work. By linking content to a static ID, it allows for irrelevant content (trolls) to be filtered by users or moderators. I hope Blizzards move is a step towards enabling age verification services too. I don't want to play with children anymore.
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb Focused Intentions	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:26:00 - [35] Edited by: Wacktopia on 07/07/2010 11:28:23 Nobody needs to panic about this. EULA.8.B clearly states: Originally by: CCP EULA CCP's aim is to keep your personal information confidential The exceptions listed are if a third party were to "unlawfully intercept transmissions" or if the third party were "private entities, law enforcement or other government officials".
Miilla	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:26:00 - [36] Edited by: Miilla on 07/07/2010 11:32:35 So how do they manage PARENTAL CONSENT? Eve has parental consent forms as I am sure Blizzard has. So, now they are esposing those "children" who play the game to predators. we know that never happens. The only way to beat this is to play the evil card. Turn these features as a weapon against them :) Newsflash: Sexual predators grooming children now aided by company publishing real account personal information (names for now, when do they add Countries to help locating you easier? What about age too?) I have reported many petitions for "sexual harassment" and "real life threats" In eve. I am not kidding. Can you imagine if CCP give them more information? That takes it to a new level, now its really PERSONAL! Every bit of information I get about somebody makes my job of making their lives harder, easier :) And supprisingly it does not take much to get a lot more information, snowball effect. A tiny bit of info here, leads to more and more and more. Eventually I build up a big picture of who you are.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:28:00 - [37] Anonymity is waaaaaaaaaay overrated for things that don't pertain to real-life politics, and even there, only as far as voting goes. Besides, it would be freaking HILARIOUS to see alts linked with mains and also real-life names over here in EVE. Too bad it will never happen.
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:31:00 - [38] Originally by: Mistress Ingrid Imagine a world where Goons have to post with their real names. Imagine a world where goons have access to your real name.
Miztli Tonahuac Microcredits	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:33:00 - [39] Originally by: omgevenmoarfreemoniez AWWWWWW NOOOO IF THEY DO THIS ** I WONT B ABEL 2 POAST LIEK A **** ANY MORE :(((((((((((((((((((((((( roflcopter
omgevenmoarfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:38:00 - [40] I wonder if the changes would be retroactive, if implemented. Then I'd REALLY have to worry.
Miilla	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:38:00 - [41] Edited by: Miilla on 07/07/2010 11:39:11 What happens to the posts you made years ago? They all get changed to show your real name, regardless of whether you want to post in future under it or not. Would be fun if they psoted moderator's REAL NAMES too :) Wait, they wont do that. you are all forgetting MINORS (not miners) play games too, with parental consent.
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:38:00 - [42] Originally by: Akita T Anonymity is waaaaaaaaaay overrated for things that don't pertain to real-life politics, and even there, only as far as voting goes. Besides, it would be freaking HILARIOUS to see alts linked with mains and also real-life names over here in EVE. Too bad it will never happen. Which consequence is more likely? (1) The obsessives, professional *****s, L33t kiddies and creeps are intimidated from posting (2) Everyone else just walks away from: Sexual harrassment Racial/nationalistic/religion prejudice Account Security issues (lol CCP GMs, amirite?) Online Harassment (got facebook?) Once you have someone's name, it's not so hard to get a lot more information about them. So tell me "Akita T", when you're getting phone calls 24 hours a day, when your boss is getting emails from strangers about you, when random fast food orders, magazine subscriptions, credit card applications get made in your name, because you **ed off someone who mplays an online game... will you still think it's "freaking HILARIOUS"? If so, post your real name right here and right now. Put your money where your mouth is.
Creepy Goat Schindlers Ignore List	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:40:00 - [43] Edited by: Creepy Goat on 07/07/2010 11:42:10 It's surprisingly easy to track someone down starting with just their name. It's less likely to stop trolls and more likely to cause RL griefing fo popping some dudes thorax. Also I like the now-approaching-1000-pages-and-~19000-replies-threadnaught on the insertblasphemyhere forums. This is one of the stupidest ideas any gaming company has had, it's up there with skill buying. e: Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 07/07/2010 11:39:11 Would be fun if they psoted moderator's REAL NAMES too :) Wait, they wont do that. They did and the dev/mod who posted his name had to delete his facebook and cut off his phone after being bombarded by angry forum goers. See where this is heading?
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:42:00 - [44] Edited by: Furb Killer on 07/07/2010 11:45:34 Quote: it's up there with skill buying. So not worse than eve character bazaar? Hiding everything that might be a problem for some random moron (gender, race, etc) is not a better solution that removing the anonimity which will make sure people behave better. What is stupid is that some people apparently think that knowing the real name of someone else is the end of the world as we know it. I also go to my job without a fake id. I am not known under an alias at the local sport club. There I also manage to deal with people knowing my name, and alot more. Why not on the intertubes? Quote: They did and the dev/mod who posted his name had to delete his facebook and cut off his phone after being bombarded by angry forum goers. See where this is heading? And see where it would go to when all those idiots would also be known under their real name? That is indeed the perfect example of why it SHOULD be done. Too many people apparently cant handle the responsibility of being anonymous.
Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:43:00 - [45] Who cares about Blizzard ? It's not about EVE, CCP will not do this. So please close topic.
omgevenmoarfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:44:00 - [46] Originally by: Creepy Goat It's surprisingly easy to track someone down starting with just their name. It's less likely to stop trolls and more likely to cause RL griefing fo popping some dudes thorax. So?
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:46:00 - [47] Implementing something similar would kill the lulz to be had on coad and such. I cannot heal stupid.
Creepy Goat Schindlers Ignore List	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:47:00 - [48] Originally by: Furb Killer Quote: it's up there with skill buying. So not worse than eve character bazaar? Hiding everything that might be a problem for some random moron (gender, race, etc) is not a better solution that removing the anonimity which will make sure people behave better. Character bazaar works well for EvE, it is not a credit card based series of micro-transactions. Yes you can buy PLEX, however the cost of characters on the bazaar when bought with PLEX is pretty damn high, making it very difficult for people to 'just buy SPs'. Removing anonymity will not make people behave better, it will stop them from posting at all. YOu get all manner of crazy ******s on the internet, highlighted frequenly in EvE by all the psoted hate mail and chat logs. Trolls would still troll, but nutty sociopaths would now have an oppurtunity to actually do RL harm just like they always 'threaten' they will. Hell, there are people that would go to great lengths to track you down simply because you have a different opinion on game mechanics or some crap. Signature not appropriate - Adida
Meissa Anunthiel	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:49:00 - [49] In a game such as Eve where meta-gaming is prevalent, this would never work... Also one can only begin to imagine what people would do when they realize the people who scammed them for a few billions lives 3 miles away... And people don't necessarily want their in-game behaviour associated with them.
Victor Valka Caldari Endoxa Corporation	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:53:00 - [50] Originally by: Akita T Anonymity is waaaaaaaaaay overrated for things that don't pertain to real-life politics, and even there, only as far as voting goes. Besides, it would be freaking HILARIOUS to see alts linked with mains and also real-life names over here in EVE. Too bad it will never happen. I prefer that people only know about me what I tell them. They have no business knowing something I myself haven't decided they should. Call me a loony recluse, but I do love my privacy. Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
Alpay	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:54:00 - [51] You could argue it's taking it a bit too far, however they are at least trying to make the forums better it seems. Would be nice to see some threads that wasn't about trolling X,internal joke with Y or spam....and I'm not talking about the WoW forums.
Creepy Goat Schindlers Ignore List	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:55:00 - [52] Edited by: Creepy Goat on 07/07/2010 11:56:02 Originally by: Furb Killer Edited by: Furb Killer on 07/07/2010 11:45:34 What is stupid is that some people apparently think that knowing the real name of someone else is the end of the world as we know it. I also go to my job without a fake id. I am not known under an alias at the local sport club. There I also manage to deal with people knowing my name, and alot more. Why not on the intertubes? The internet has a much larger number of people than your job. There is also a much wider variety of people, look at 4chan for example. They manage to ruin peoples lives for saying something they dont like just by finding their name on a blog or youtube account. Not to mention the fact that when looking for jobs etc, most employers google your name. As soon as it pops up in some WoW RolePlaying board, you're going to look like a right *got, and likely not ge an interview. Quote: They did and the dev/mod who posted his name had to delete his facebook and cut off his phone after being bombarded by angry forum goers. See where this is heading? Quote:** And see where it would go to when all those idiots would also be known under their real name? That is indeed the perfect example of why it SHOULD be done. Too many people apparently cant handle the responsibility of being anonymous. How is that? If they had their real name on the forum, I doubt they would post. They would still abuse others via this method however. Also, I don't see how phoning abuse to someone can be directly linked to your WoW posting account? When you call on a private number it doesn't say 'John Smith calling (aka Mystic ElfWarrior)' over the speaker. Signature not appropriate - Adida
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:56:00 - [53] What to stop people creating multiple free email accounts and just having multiple real ID's under different names? Anyhow, it's not something I see them doing in eve as, well, it's eve and meta gaming it huge. It'd screw spys etc wouldn't it? -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb Focused Intentions	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:58:00 - [54] Edited by: Wacktopia on 07/07/2010 11:59:13 I should probably also point out that RealID forces the player to display their real name but not their character name - linking the two is optional. This makes linking a player in game to a real life name/identity more difficult. Not saying I agree with it, before anyone jumps in, but just wanted to state the fact.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.07.07 11:58:00 - [55] Edited by: Dan O''Connor on 07/07/2010 11:58:53 Originally by: Sealiah I find that perfectly ok if it's just the first and last name... As long as nobody wants my personal ID number or license number... I'm all for it! I don't think it is against my privacy. I think it'll kill all the stupid bumping with 10 of your alts, nonsensical loltalk posts. So you are perfectly okay with the fact that if CCP were to implement this, potentially ~300,000 people could find your address, phone number, and other information that you might possibly not want others to know? Or in the case of JUST World Of Warcraft, ~11,000,000 people? If so... enjoy strangers and odd phone calls. Or people who drop by. They can close the forums after their next expansion because no one will say anything. It's the end of the World.......... of Warcraft Item DB \| Sigs
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.07.07 12:16:00 - [56] Originally by: Furb Killer Edited by: Furb Killer on 07/07/2010 11:45:34 Quote: it's up there with skill buying. So not worse than eve character bazaar? Hiding everything that might be a problem for some random moron (gender, race, etc) is not a better solution that removing the anonimity which will make sure people behave better. What is stupid is that some people apparently think that knowing the real name of someone else is the end of the world as we know it. I also go to my job without a fake id. I am not known under an alias at the local sport club. There I also manage to deal with people knowing my name, and alot more. Why not on the intertubes? Quote: They did and the dev/mod who posted his name had to delete his facebook and cut off his phone after being bombarded by angry forum goers. See where this is heading? And see where it would go to when all those idiots would also be known under their real name? That is indeed the perfect example of why it SHOULD be done. Too many people apparently cant handle the responsibility of being anonymous. What's your name? Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.07 12:18:00 - [57] Using RL names is not a good idea. However, the idea of removing anonymity is a good thing as it would reduce a lot of the trolling that goes on. To this end, I suggest that rather than linking all characters to a RL name, they should just link all characters together - so it's possible to see which alt belongs to who. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.07.07 12:19:00 - [58] Edited by: Akita T on 07/07/2010 12:24:27 Originally by: Victor Valka I prefer that people only know about me what I tell them. They have no business knowing something I myself haven't decided they should. Call me a loony recluse, but I do love my privacy. There's also always the option of, you know, NOT POSTING anything at all BTW, I'm somewhat of a recluse myself (at least lately), but I still hate COMPLETE ANONYMITY. There's a huge spectrum between (some) privacy and absolute anonymity. A real name falls quite a bit closer to the anonymity end than the full disclosure end. Originally by: Malcanis So tell me "Akita T", when you're getting phone calls 24 hours a day, when your boss is getting emails from strangers about you, when random fast food orders, magazine subscriptions, credit card applications get made in your name, because you ****ed off someone who mplays an online game... will you still think it's "freaking HILARIOUS"? If so, post your real name right here and right now. Put your money where your mouth is. I WOULD post my real name in here too, if it wouldn't be against the EULA/TOS as they stand right now, and they'd most likely be removed by a mod soon, with a warning given to me for posting private information in the forums. In other games where it was permitted (I wasn't less vocal about my opinions there either, although none had such a wide public as EVE) I had absolutely no reservation about giving out not just my contact info and real name but also my phone number. I can count on my hands the number of unsolicited calls I've got, and none were prank calls nor calls I've hung up on before finishing the conversation. My corpmates aren't at all scrutinized on joining (we actually have a mostly open recruitment policy), yet some contact info for me is posted right there on the corp bulletin board, contact info which COULD allow you to find who I am, where I live, what my phone number is and even find my full CV eventually if you keep at it. Besides, I don't really have a boss right now, and you wouldn't find the contact info of my clients anwyay (or if you did, you would most likely just be ignored altogether), I have a long-standing habit of turning down the volume on my phone before going to sleep and screening most of my calls anyway (so not even constant phonecalls would annoy me), you have to SERIOUSLY BOTHER to get a credit card in this country, nobody ever sends pre-approved ones, you have to go into a bank with mountains of paperwork to even have a chance to get one, I never order any food BECAUSE NOBODY DELIVERS in this city, you have to actually go there, I have a large mailbox which is also very close to the trashcan so I can just throw unwanted magazines inside (but then again, no magazine can be completely unwanted)... ...so no, I don't have a problem with giving out just about any kind of personal info. And I gladly do it here too if it would be allowed, but it's not. However, members of the CSM have had their real names divulged already, which is slightly weird all things considered. ___ P.S. Of course, you can always get the least bad of two worlds. You can have the FORUM account linked with your real name, and disconnect the in-game characters from the forum profile. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.07.07 12:23:00 - [59] The changes would stop some of the more rude trolls - definitely. They would also lead to more women being harassed in game. More RL threats and personal information attacks online. I think trolls are the better of 2 evils. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Ava Starfire Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr	Posted - 2010.07.07 12:24:00 - [60] Anyone who thinks this is actually an OK idea, go ahead and post your real name. Go ahead, its not like its your driver's license number and SSN, right? Right?!!? I dont see CCP ever being this ****ed, but sadly I can see American companies not only doing it (apparently WoW is) but law actually requiring it. The ability to remain anonymous has basically been erased with the internet, and I could see some idiot, somewhere, trying to spin video game forums as "a threat to homeland security". Actually, it wouldnt surprise me for American businesses to push for something like this... Overweight Manager; "Bob, you were late yesterday" Bob; "Sorry about that sir, I overslept." Overweight Manager: "oh, Indeed. I googled you, turns out you play <enter name of random MMO>. We dont think you have the level of responsibility our company requires. What would our customers think if they knew!" Yes, this country is that **ed up. Space is fun!

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