Originally by: Lady Rona

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Well our POS is running we got enough Fuel now for a year (yep takes some ISK). But having this POS in 0.0 and we can leave the BS at POS and the Mining ships it saves a lot of time moving around. With this we can generate more income due people hunting in belts on BS and mining the good Minerals. Its not the Cost of maintenance but how you gonna use the POS are you gonna see it as home or only use it for Moon mining. When you gonna use only for Moon mining well your bad it will cost ya ISK. We got most members at POS and we not even that big a corp usually 5 peeps online but you need to coordinate your efforts.

Downsides CCP needs to change in my opinion:

Corp hangers need more space in it. We got 3 deployed now and still not enough cargo space.
Need factorys with POS :-) then we dont have to fly back for ammo and stuff.
Maintenance Array needs bit better interface.
Need More CPU and Grid on POS.

Well this might not sum it all up maybe but we are very happy with the POS handeling at moment :).

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Originally by: Lady Rona

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Well our POS is running we got enough Fuel now for a year (yep takes some ISK). But having this POS in 0.0 and we can leave the BS at POS and the Mining ships it saves a lot of time moving around. With this we can generate more income due people hunting in belts on BS and mining the good Minerals. Its not the Cost of maintenance but how you gonna use the POS are you gonna see it as home or only use it for Moon mining. When you gonna use only for Moon mining well your bad it will cost ya ISK. We got most members at POS and we not even that big a corp usually 5 peeps online but you need to coordinate your efforts.

Downsides CCP needs to change in my opinion:

Corp hangers need more space in it. We got 3 deployed now and still not enough cargo space.
Need factorys with POS :-) then we dont have to fly back for ammo and stuff.
Maintenance Array needs bit better interface.
Need More CPU and Grid on POS.

Well this might not sum it all up maybe but we are very happy with the POS handeling at moment :).

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Originally by: Johnson McCrae

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I do recall CCP saying they'd be for large corps,and would be money sinks. . Nobody listened, so here you are. Broke.

The POS's are not the be all end all items of Exodus. But many thought they were going to make big ISK from them. Won't happen for some time.

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Originally by: Johnson McCrae

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I do recall CCP saying they'd be for large corps,and would be money sinks. . Nobody listened, so here you are. Broke.

The POS's are not the be all end all items of Exodus. But many thought they were going to make big ISK from them. Won't happen for some time.

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Originally by: Hakera

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Originally by: mrbabooon

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mine your ice..then it costs next to nothing..and we dont have more posts about this on forums.

ours POS is fine.

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this is incorrect, its still a cost in materials and man hours.

If you could sell your ice for 10 mill, then its a 10mill cost, if those characters mining the ice could have mined more value in veldspaer with their barges, then you should do that instead and buy the isotopes.

You cannot ignore ice as a cost though, its just not good business.

Needless to say, my POS is in my hanger after the fun feeling of playing with something new left when I realised it would only be a isk sink. But as Redundancy says unless you find another use for them like 0.0 mining stations, they are not meant to be profitable .

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Originally by: Hakera

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Originally by: mrbabooon

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mine your ice..then it costs next to nothing..and we dont have more posts about this on forums.

ours POS is fine.

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this is incorrect, its still a cost in materials and man hours.

If you could sell your ice for 10 mill, then its a 10mill cost, if those characters mining the ice could have mined more value in veldspaer with their barges, then you should do that instead and buy the isotopes.

You cannot ignore ice as a cost though, its just not good business.

Needless to say, my POS is in my hanger after the fun feeling of playing with something new left when I realised it would only be a isk sink. But as Redundancy says unless you find another use for them like 0.0 mining stations, they are not meant to be profitable .

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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If you build a station next to ark/bistot, and you can't make money, then you should probably un-install.

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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If you build a station next to ark/bistot, and you can't make money, then you should probably un-install.

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Originally by: Shintai

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Those using a POS as pure military or refinery stations are useless in this thread.

This is about Tech2 components and production. Not about if your refining of bis, ark etc is worth the time.

If POS doesn¦t get profitable, we wont see any Tech2 other than agent Tech2.

There might be a few complex reaction POS that makes profit. But only due to putting the loss on the simple reaction POS, and thats only a matter of time before that changes.

I will post numbers later ¼_¼

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Originally by: Shintai

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Those using a POS as pure military or refinery stations are useless in this thread.

This is about Tech2 components and production. Not about if your refining of bis, ark etc is worth the time.

If POS doesn¦t get profitable, we wont see any Tech2 other than agent Tech2.

There might be a few complex reaction POS that makes profit. But only due to putting the loss on the simple reaction POS, and thats only a matter of time before that changes.

I will post numbers later ¼_¼

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Originally by: Tas Devil

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It would indeed be nice if those that claim to be making 'tonnes' of isk from their POS had the maturity to share some of their calculations and results ... it seems only those that claim that POS are not profitable or even remotedly economically viable are the ones backing these claims with serious calculations and data... those that supposedly make isk with them have, it seems, very little to back up their claims...

Perhaps those claiming to make loads of isk with their POS are the same ones constantly trolling the forums claiming to have perfect PVP setups ? and to deliver critical hits of 1500hp damage every few shots ?

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Originally by: Tas Devil

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It would indeed be nice if those that claim to be making 'tonnes' of isk from their POS had the maturity to share some of their calculations and results ... it seems only those that claim that POS are not profitable or even remotedly economically viable are the ones backing these claims with serious calculations and data... those that supposedly make isk with them have, it seems, very little to back up their claims...

Perhaps those claiming to make loads of isk with their POS are the same ones constantly trolling the forums claiming to have perfect PVP setups ? and to deliver critical hits of 1500hp damage every few shots ?

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