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Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2010.09.25 21:54:00 - [151] So what we've learnt from this thread is: a) F90's CNR business is a pathetic fantasy b) He's a trusted third party, apart from all the times where he'll just steal your items because he'll never be rich enough to buy them off the market c) He proudly claims that he doesn't "do" alts, apart from all the alts he has for shill bidding and faux-bumping c) this scam is about the level of charon = carbon
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.09.25 22:03:00 - [152] Quote: I'd do what I stated above and what I WILL allow is You and some other respectable auditor on here I suppose you know that around 27th of this month, a lot of auditing programs will stop working. Therefore if you want a verification it should be done before that date. No character in corp is needed, but: - Full API for a character holding the assets + wallet - Trade window to show BPOs as authentic and 100B+ ships as being in your personal control. If you are still up for the auditor thing, I am right here. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
cosmoray Cosmoray Holdings Corp	Posted - 2010.09.25 22:34:00 - [153] I have never actually done an audit, and at present I am away from the game and I have zero time at present. My suggested auditors would be: Vaerah Vahrokh or Grendell (he offered). Both of those will not give any industrial secrets away, and will give an honest accounting. Give them a shout.
harsh jack	Posted - 2010.09.26 00:54:00 - [154] Originally by: AnakieNine Just show people the 10 trillion+ isk using chribbas site on a trade free character. Salvage some of your previous rep and move on. ^ This
Noun Verber Gallente	Posted - 2010.09.26 01:59:00 - [155] Originally by: cosmoray A few points I would like to make: 1. F9X is a well known person and has been trustworthy for 3rd part transactions. I see a problem right here. It has been raised multiple times that there is in fact a blemish on his record as a neutral 3rd party
Htrag The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2010.09.26 04:57:00 - [156] Originally by: F90OEX Originally by: cosmoray A few points I would like to make: 1. F9X is a well known person and has been trustworthy for 3rd part transactions. 2. On a business level this bond doesn't make sense. F9 doesn't need the cash so he is effectively paying close to 170B to get an extra 500B for 3 months and that is awfully difficult to turn a profit on after financing costs. 3. Due to the wierd status of the bond and recent issues with BB, F9's status/reputation is taking a big hit here. 4. As a piece of advice I would suggest that F9 makes ammends to repair the damage hit, through a basic audit to prove cash reserve. 5. This offering doesn't look like it has too many customers, so I would advise listing them here. I am not saying I do not trust F9, but what I am saying that F9 should go through some measures to improve his credibility on this bond. The perception from this bond launch is bad, and even though the things are probably not going to happen, perception easily becomes reality and it will be difficult to work in the public domain with a bad cloud over you. All Good points cosmoray, I'd do what I stated above and what I WILL allow is You and some other respectable auditor on here, to either have Full API along with ( if needed) a char in the corp, so you can see what I have and how much and whatever else you want. I have NO problem in that what so ever.. I will work it out with you, just let me start making good and my promises and agreements and you will be able to see the interest been paid out etc... Htrag, I don't know why I even bother , IF I was in the position you state I am in, I could easily just sell the State Raven along with the Officer mods and get 300bil for it easy, I have had my fun with it, got some nice kills but I have no need to use it anymore. If I needed more ISK, I have a long list of nicely fitted ships, BPOs and some other crap. I have no interest in selling anything I own, CASH OUT ??? for what , is there something in game that I don't have, that interest's me ? Do tell. Again let's go over it for the 100th time, I have everything I want that interests me in game. I have no need or use for Titan's, Super caps etc.. if I did it can be easily built. In all honestly I don't spend a lot of time playing Eve anymore, it's not as exciting as it once was, kinda burned out. Hopefully CCP will add new exciting expansions over the next 1-2 Years but not holding out for that. I know you and your bum chum SFS are still mad and probably get told often WTF where you thinking, tbh I'd be MAD also... But you said it perfectly in your last line. SFS could of waited a few hrs before Chribba got online or even Darkness since there on every day, I mean given the time he spend in BOB and the effort he put into it, he could not wait a few more hrs, but guess what he succumbed to greed and laziness After all within the same week the tribal tempest was up on a lottery and then the other State Raven got sold to Mr Poker owner .. You don't see me doing the same and I have been offered more then what Sel paid for his. Anyways I will be in touch cosmoray or just send me a mail...... quoting before he edits this, no response.
Htrag The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2010.09.26 05:21:00 - [157] Originally by: Gypsio III So what we've learnt from this thread is: a) F90's CNR business is a pathetic fantasy b) He's a trusted third party, apart from all the times where he'll just steal your items because he'll never be rich enough to buy them off the market c) He proudly claims that he doesn't "do" alts, apart from all the alts he has for shill bidding and faux-bumping c) this scam is about the level of charon = carbon Gypsio is a crazy scientist and although I dont understand the second c) it still makes me ****ing laugh.
SFShootme The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2010.09.26 09:24:00 - [158] Just like you could've handed the thing over to Chribba and got the full story out of it, but guess what, i guess you succumbed to greed.... Or somethin? Stop pretending you have 500b in investments reeled in, stop pretending you have isk that you don't. You might wanna edit your OP because at the moment your just plain lying in there as well. Originally by: F90OEX Again the INTENTION will be to have it secured (I send the Isk to Chribba before I receive anything from you) If for whatever reason it is not I will not run it here. You could so easily proof you're not just reeling in isk by showing someone your ~trillions~. But you refrain from it, just like you refrained from showing the community your nothing more then a untrustworthy 3rd party. Mad? No, i thought it was ****ing hilarious.
Meathireland Reaction Theory Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.26 12:48:00 - [159] I have talked to F90 a number of times in the past, where he has expressed his enthuasism for a venture such as this. Saying that, this bond does raise quite a few red flags in the way it has been dealt with, particularly as F90 has expressed a loss of enthuasism for the game. And where are the investors, will they come forward ? I know I received no response, when I expressed an interest. F90 seems like a smart guy I'd have thought he would have handled it better than this. I know F90 does have quite a few high end assets as I have recently seen the State Raven in his possession, but as to the levels claimed I'm not sure. Cosmo & VV have given a number of options to allay peoples fears. I can't suggest more than that, and besides I'm not a glorious member of the market elite anyway :)
Michela Bosun Shipyards	Posted - 2010.09.26 13:04:00 - [160] This thing, from the original post, has screamed of "scam". Nearly every statement has oozed of one scamming / bad debate technique or another. - Only allowing those who are already rich to join ... appealing to ego. - INTENDS to have it secured ... appeal to authority. - Unwilling to be audited except by certain people. - I don't have to do this, I'm just being nice. I could peruse the entire thread and get more. But, folks, seriously, if this doesn't scream "scam", nothing does. There's no debate here. F90 is probably just having fun seeing how long various people will continue to try to convince him otherwise.
Mishkaii	Posted - 2010.09.26 21:04:00 - [161] Originally by: SFShootme SFS talking about trust. Obvious troll is obvious, would lol again.
Estella Vance	Posted - 2010.09.26 22:53:00 - [162] I see this thread has greatly developed... in a way, that bugs this forum lurker to post again. OP's lost enthusiasm in game, claims of huge wealth, no audit, no real business plan (I'm smart, I know how to make isk out of thin air, and cnr markets), fleet of expensive ships in possession, floating through forums on a bubble of charisma and fame... Curzon Dax is back! (hey, you owe me some isk, you sneaky sweettalker). If not a scam (oh, my silly belief in humans...), this is at least a (very failed) rep grind attempt, because there are much better ways for charity, and helping people to "recoupe". What made quite a few people here to react, is that still unconfirmed bold claim about 20 tril.+ total wealth. To earn that amount of isk in eve, playing for 7 years, you have to earn on average 7.828 bil./day. Forget about nerfing missions, nerf whatever this guy is doing! Originally by: AnakieNine Just show people the 10 trillion+ isk using chribbas site on a trade free character. Salvage some of your previous rep and move on. I think it's the only real way, to save this thread from spiralling further down to the abyss of lol's, regardless if this fishy bond is real or not. To encourage OP, I will start. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Estella_Vance Easy way to show, that you have the claimed isk. C'mon, you will push Akita T down to 3rd place! Good luck to OP, and all the mysterious and wealthy ghost investors out there.
Nadarius Chrome Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2010.09.26 23:14:00 - [163] Epic, epic stuff. Maybe this is the psych study that those "university of Pheonix (sic)" students are always talking about in Jita. EG See how bad a scam you can make yet still attract ISK. It's a study into gullibility.
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six	Posted - 2010.09.27 03:00:00 - [164] It's funny because it's trivial to prove that you're wealthy, unless there is less truth to your previous words. Myself and many others would eat their own words if you would stop ****ing around and stop acting shady. Anything else is just, well, sad really. ______________________________
RAW23	Posted - 2010.09.27 11:10:00 - [165] I would love to see F900EX prove his wealth on eveboard. The site motto is: Quote: Tracking 685.70 billion SP and 18.06 trillion ISK in 21,887 pilots! Apparently F900 could increase the isk level by 50-100% singlehandedly!
SFShootme The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2010.09.27 15:08:00 - [166] Originally by: Mishkaii Originally by: SFShootme SFS talking about trust. Obvious troll is obvious, would lol again. I don't ask for people to trust me, thats the difference.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2010.09.27 15:49:00 - [167] Originally by: TheWrit F900EX , alliance ISK sent through my alt . Thanks for the opportunity and i look forward to future business with you . TheWrit. Bumping F90's previous threads - check and check. Dodgy grammar like Metallion1 - look for the spaces before commas, full stops and other exclamation marks, and use of the "o/" sign-off - check. Another F90 alt that he "doesn't care for" burnt - check.
RAW23	Posted - 2010.09.27 16:19:00 - [168] Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: TheWrit F900EX , alliance ISK sent through my alt . Thanks for the opportunity and i look forward to future business with you . TheWrit. Bumping F90's previous threads - check and check. Dodgy grammar like Metallion1 - look for the spaces before commas, full stops and other exclamation marks, and use of the "o/" sign-off - check. Another F90 alt that he "doesn't care for" burnt - check. Conspiracy theory time! I had a look back over this thread and found that the space before a punctuation mark occurs at least 12 times in F9's posts here. Now to look again at a control group (i.e. all other posters in this thread).
SFShootme The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2010.09.27 16:38:00 - [169] Edited by: SFShootme on 27/09/2010 16:40:54 Edited by: SFShootme on 27/09/2010 16:39:19 Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: TheWrit F900EX , alliance ISK sent through my alt . Thanks for the opportunity and i look forward to future business with you . TheWrit. Bumping F90's previous threads - check and check. Dodgy grammar like Metallion1 - look for the spaces before commas, full stops and other exclamation marks, and use of the "o/" sign-off - check. Another F90 alt that he "doesn't care for" burnt - check. Lmao... Really, could this get any more obvious.... Not to mention that ~1000 cnr batch offc went to another person we shall never know. f9 your full of **** man, haha.
RAW23	Posted - 2010.09.27 17:14:00 - [170] Eve search stats are quite interesting. TheWrit Metallion1 In addition to the identical posting styles and the surprising proportion of their small number of posts that are in F900's threads, they both have a large proportion of their posts as thread OPs (6 out of 54 for Metallion, 10 out of 21 for TheWrit), which in the latter case at least might appear to be padding their post counts. Most interestingly, they each made their first posts 4 days apart and 2 months after F900's first post (and his early posts also include a lot of spaces before punctuation marks). Very interesting ...
F90OEX F9X WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.09.27 17:26:00 - [171] Originally by: SFShootme Edited by: SFShootme on 27/09/2010 16:40:54 Edited by: SFShootme on 27/09/2010 16:39:19 Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: TheWrit F900EX , alliance ISK sent through my alt . Thanks for the opportunity and i look forward to future business with you . TheWrit. Bumping F90's previous threads - check and check. Dodgy grammar like Metallion1 - look for the spaces before commas, full stops and other exclamation marks, and use of the "o/" sign-off - check. Another F90 alt that he "doesn't care for" burnt - check. Lmao... Really, could this get any more obvious.... Not to mention that ~1000 cnr batch offc went to another person we shall never know. f9 your full of ** man, haha. Between my 2 accounts, none of them are my alts, nor have I used any of my alt's in this thread or any other linked. SFS keep posting, just shows me a year later your still **ed off, week after I had the State Raven you where looking to gank me in Jita now this... Regardless of what you say it does not change anything with the deal.
SFShootme The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2010.09.27 17:37:00 - [172] Edited by: SFShootme on 27/09/2010 17:41:54 Don't flatter yourself, testing out my new Navy Mega with Slaveset is something you do at jita 4-4 playing docking games. The fact that you where there was nothing more then a coincidence. Not to mention you showed up after I started doeing it. A gank is more then 1 people fyi, pretty sure I was alone. If i wanted to kill you I would've done it with more then 1 and definatly not on the undock ramp of 4-4. ****ed off? Nah, just want to be part of this absolute hilarity. Please dun stop.
mechtech SRS Industries SRS.	Posted - 2010.09.27 18:28:00 - [173] The alts use the same weird grammar, that's gold . Seriously F900, hurry up and post 5-10T isk or so to eve-board, what's the hold up?
Estel Arador	Posted - 2010.09.27 19:56:00 - [174] So has F90OEX contacted Grendell? Free universal jumpclone service: 10.000 users!
Dana Gilmour	Posted - 2010.09.27 20:21:00 - [175] Stop beating the poor horse. He's dead already for quite a long time now.
Grendell Technologies Unlimited	Posted - 2010.09.27 20:28:00 - [176] Edited by: Grendell on 27/09/2010 20:28:26 Originally by: Estel Arador So has F90OEX contacted Grendell? Just to clarify a few things. I have not been contacted by F9 regarding my offer to secure or audit this offering. Given the amount negative press surrounding this offering, I'm not entirely sure I want to either. I wish F9 and his investors the best of luck. Grendell ♥
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six	Posted - 2010.09.27 21:28:00 - [177] Originally by: SFShootme Edited by: SFShootme on 27/09/2010 17:46:44 Don't flatter yourself, testing out my new Navy Mega with Slaveset is something you do at jita 4-4 playing docking games. The fact that you where there was nothing more then a coincidence. Not to mention you showed up after I started doeing it. A gank is more then 1 people fyi, pretty sure I was alone. If i wanted to kill you I would've done it with more then 1 and definatly not on the undock ramp of 4-4. **ed off? Nah, just want to be part of this absolute hilarity. The more we hit this Pi±ata the more ** comes out, haha. I probably wouldn't have been too sad in your place either, considering you got a decent enough pile of ISK from me when I bought the two remaining ships. =D ______________________________
SFShootme The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2010.09.27 21:36:00 - [178] Originally by: Selene D'Celeste Originally by: SFShootme Edited by: SFShootme on 27/09/2010 17:46:44 Don't flatter yourself, testing out my new Navy Mega with Slaveset is something you do at jita 4-4 playing docking games. The fact that you where there was nothing more then a coincidence. Not to mention you showed up after I started doeing it. A gank is more then 1 people fyi, pretty sure I was alone. If i wanted to kill you I would've done it with more then 1 and definatly not on the undock ramp of 4-4. **ed off? Nah, just want to be part of this absolute hilarity. The more we hit this Pi±ata the more ** comes out, haha. I probably wouldn't have been too sad in your place either, considering you got a decent enough pile of ISK from me when I bought the two remaining ships. =D I can confirm i'm still sitting on a very very nice amount of isk here. It has even become more then originally
SFShootme The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2010.09.27 21:52:00 - [179] I forgot to mention I totally control the Gila market now. I will be selling 500 of them in a batch to very soon, but i will only accept in game bids. I sold over 1000 of them already but my contract history is bugged which is normal for characters with allot of contract history. I was thinking about creating a bond as well to ~give back to the community~. The intention will off course be to have it secured. You know, to help people out. Whatya guys think?
Imperator Principes Minmatar SSGS Marketing and Analysis	Posted - 2010.09.27 21:54:00 - [180] Originally by: SFShootme I forgot to mention I totally control the Gila market now. I will be selling 500 of them in a batch to very soon, but i will only accept in game bids. I sold over 1000 of them already but my contract history is bugged which is normal for characters with allot of contract history. I was thinking about creating a bond as well to ~give back to the community~. The intention will off course be to have it secured. You know, to help people out. Whatya guys think? In for 2 waffles.

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