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Athena Olaf Amarr Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 10:32:00 - [1] Edited by: Athena Olaf on 21/09/2010 10:35:05 It's a little rough but let's picture the moment... Your fleet is having a skirmish on a gate with another fleet...things start to escalate, Carriers come in to rep, Dreads come in to kill carriers, Supercarriers cyno in to take down the Dreads, Titans pop up to kill Supercarriers...it's every 0.0 pilots wet dream... Let's make things interesting, in warp the backup support fleet who went to reship from the intial engagement...HICs/Dictor bubbles are up, but they are skirmishing 50-100km away from the capitals and slowly losing their bubble launchers... In warps the Capital HIC right on top of the caps thanks to a skilled covert ops warpin, a true tank of a machine, able to with stand two Titan doomsdays. Friendly carriers lock her up and begin shield/armour boosting her to keep her alive. The CHIC's bubble extending 75km out from it's hull engulfing one half of the enemy and it's own cap fleet. Up goes another cyno, the enemy is bringing in more capitals, with super caps the majority of the reinforcements in order to take out this new threat. Your FC calls for supers and Dreads, there goes another Cyno. 400+ on the field not with more than 50% in a capital of sorts. What's that effect coming out of the CHIC..."Commander, we have entered Suppression, we are immobile, can only receive Cap and Repping alone, Resists are up to 95% across the board - no one is getting out" A Massive 350km Suppression field has extended around the battlefield, nothing can warp/jump out. This is a fight to the end, whoever holds the field will be victorious today. ========================== Ok so it's a new Capital ship. It will be expensive(10bil+), perhaps actually a Super Capital. The CHIC(Capital Interdictor) It can launch fighters(Not while in Suppression mode) It can fit the Suppression module(explained below) Base Standard EHP 2.5mil(I'm not the best when it comes to actual shield/armour levels Increased 500k by every level of the CIC Skillbook trained. Slots...depending on race of course. Gallente(6,5,3)/Amarr(7,3,4)/Mini(6,4,4) = Armour Caldari(4,7,3) = Shield High Slots - 3-4 1 for the Suppression Module 1 for normal Warp Disruption Field Generator Does not capital remote rep others. ------------- The Suppression Module Creates a 350km radius "bubble" - I would like this to be invisible(lighter than pos shields) so people can still see the action. Nothing can Cyno out or Warp out. Cynos in = Yes. You can warp in from another grid/area of the system/gate you are fighting on, to anywhere in the bubble there is a warp in. Completely imobilises the ship, like Siege/Triage. Cycles of 5 minutes, and uses Stront(Max amount held in cargo perhaps 30 minutes worth) Cap Use increase 500% Cap Rep use increase 500% Resists increase to 90-95% Unlike Triage/Siege, you can be Capped up, NOT remote repped during Suppression. ------------- Tactical Interdiction Reconfiguration(Needs Graviton Physics V) Rank 14 skill ------------- Capital Interdictor Skillbook(Needs Graviton Physics V, HIC V and Capital Ships V) Rank 14 Skill ========================== How this ships works on the battlefield. Standard bubble(using HIC interdiction module) - 75km Remote repped via Super/Carriers To ensure no one get's away, it then goes in to Suppression(350km bubble), where it will need Capacitor transferred to keep the module going during the full 5 minutes it is in Suppression mode(Stealth Archons and Chimera buff) Personally I would like Suppression to be grid wide, but I have been batted down to less than that. Still think it should be grid wide :) Yes it's for 0.0, screw low sec. Flame away. I may edit during the day, would like constructive critism :)
Vengeance Raze Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 10:59:00 - [2] Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 21/09/2010 11:00:40 I actually like this idea alot. I've always thought that relying on a cruiser hull to pin down supercaps didn't make any sense. We do need an eve version of this Interdiction Capital Ship: Simple fact is, so many capital escalations either do not happen, or are 'close to happening' but then dictor/hics get popped and super jumps out. A super cap or two being trapped by an enemy cap fleet/chic would no doubt be a huge escalation point. People moan that there are too many SC's and Titans in game. Welcome to part of the solution (with added GF's all around).
cheese monkey Vicarious.	Posted - 2010.09.21 11:10:00 - [3] i like the idea, but think it should be something like a KAOS module. Warps in, activate module. warp drives stop working for 75km, maybe a little bit of web for all on the field. little bit of Ewar, so gunz dont work as well, cant target as far drones go a bit crazy sometimes, missiles have their flight time lowered. Everyone ****s themselves :) Fog of war type thing.
Bastaardicious FinFleet IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 11:13:00 - [4] Nice idea, not sure how this will end up with lag and such but it's a good idea! Casual HIC's are killed too easily when titans start getting on the field, you simply need way too many HIC's on the field to keep capitals pinned down. One big ass bubble would become epic.
Athena Olaf Amarr Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 11:23:00 - [5] Edited by: Athena Olaf on 21/09/2010 11:26:35 Ok, after thinking a little more and some suggestions... It would have to be a Super Cap. 1, To stop spammge of them in fleets 2, The pilot commits to the ship 3, Cost needs to be higher than 10bil. Base resists would be that of a Mothership now. Perhaps... Instead of the Resist bonus(as typically faction/officer fit it would be +91-95% resists anyway on each resist) 500% Capital Repair Cycle reduction, 500% Capital Repair increase 150k Capacitor Base It's a stand alone machine, still with Cap Transfer to help it along. No control on Fighters after Suppression is released.
Athena Olaf Amarr Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 11:42:00 - [6] Another change... Rep amount would be insane with those resists(100k+). Base EHP reduced to 75% of a Super Carrier Thinking of who would have one of these... 1 or 2 per alliance in each TZ most likely, placement of them in to the battle can hurt you as well, as the effects affect all. I'm thinking cost wise...between a SC and Titan, 25bilish build, maybe 30bil for ME 0.
Ciaa Gallente The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 12:19:00 - [7] Nerd chills... I see a lot of fun in that one... fights to the knife with losses in the high Hundreds of Billions, if not Thousands of Billions. It did make me think that we really need some dedicated refuelling ship, but that for another thread. DON'T PANIC!
Vitelius Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 12:37:00 - [8] Edited by: Vitelius on 21/09/2010 12:38:14 I dig this CHIC Nice idea, it'll be risky to fly one in a capital slugfest... then again its tackling power... priceless! This genuinely is a good idea.
el jaulata	Posted - 2010.09.21 13:02:00 - [9] Athena, this is awesome!!! CCP Check it now!!!
Imperian hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.21 14:35:00 - [10] I like chics. Nice idea RAWR
Montolio Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.09.21 14:38:00 - [11] Edited by: Montolio on 21/09/2010 14:39:59 Couldn't this just be a new module / script that a titan could use? Interesting idea either way.
Selma Body Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.21 14:39:00 - [12] I like this idea a lot.
Athena Olaf Amarr Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 14:44:00 - [13] Originally by: Montolio Edited by: Montolio on 21/09/2010 14:39:59 Couldn't this just be a new module / script that a titan could use? Interesting idea either way. Yes it very much could be, which a numbe of people I've spoke to have suggested...Interdictor Dread/Carrier/SC and Titan. However I love the idea so much, I want another Super Cap :) Fighters removed or reduced to only 5 being deployed...
GavinGoodrich Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2010.09.21 14:47:00 - [14] Ooh. Me likey. \o
moranno	Posted - 2010.09.21 14:53:00 - [15] No fighters at all. It shouldnt be able to deal any dps whatsoever, and maybe a shorter range in supression. But i`m not sure about the last one. Awesome ideea anyway, but in order to work CCP MUST FIX LAAAAAG first!
StaticViolence The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 14:54:00 - [16] I always thought a ship like this should just impede jump drives, not warp drives.
Athena Olaf Amarr Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 15:14:00 - [17] Originally by: StaticViolence I always thought a ship like this should just impede jump drives, not warp drives. More talk on our forums and elsewhere regarding this. I agree thinking about it, and I wouldn't expect CCP to implement what I have suggested completely. The idea came about with me chatting on MSN with a friend regarding Cyno Jammers..."what if you could have a moving jammer...or one that stops people jumping out...not in...like bubbles....just bigger....on a grid....." train of thought went on quite a bit from there... So...solely to capture Cap ships jumping out...they can still warp off under Suppression(obviously not when in bubble mode - 75km) just not Cyno out while on grid(within a distance of the ship - 250km...)
Athena Olaf Amarr Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 15:28:00 - [18] Added/Changed: Disrupts Capital Warp Drives ONLY. I removed the resists bonus, and changed it to a local rep bonus. There is now no remote help while in Suppression, like triage/siege etc Suppression timer increased to 15mins, Maximum Stront held in cargo for only 2 cycles.
Mitch Taylor Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 15:30:00 - [19] presses like button The Dark is Rising...
Montolio Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.09.21 15:53:00 - [20] Originally by: Athena Olaf Originally by: StaticViolence I always thought a ship like this should just impede jump drives, not warp drives. More talk on our forums and elsewhere regarding this. I agree thinking about it, and I wouldn't expect CCP to implement what I have suggested completely. The idea came about with me chatting on MSN with a friend regarding Cyno Jammers..."what if you could have a moving jammer...or one that stops people jumping out...not in...like bubbles....just bigger....on a grid....." train of thought went on quite a bit from there... So...solely to capture Cap ships jumping out...they can still warp off under Suppression(obviously not when in bubble mode - 75km) just not Cyno out while on grid(within a distance of the ship - 250km...) If its going to be its own ship and focused completely on jump drives why not actually have it be a mobile cyno jammer with two scripts? One that keeps ships from jumping out, another that keeps them from jumping in.
Grarr Dexx Amarr GK inc. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.09.21 16:11:00 - [21] Is it really a good idea to move yet ANOTHER class of ships into the realms of capitals? I don't like it for just that reason, it's already bad enough that a cap blob can just ignore a subcap blob.
Asuka Solo Gallente We Br4ke for Nobody	Posted - 2010.09.21 16:27:00 - [22] I was hoping to be the first to propose this idea and you beat me to it XD. I was of the same mind about the suppression field, but I figured it would be something a bit more useful than a 140km bubble wide anti-"cyno into local" or even a grid wide suppression system. I had hoped that we could create a Capital Interdictor that would have a standard warp scrambler bubble effect module, that produces a conventional anti-warpdrive bubble of say 90km that can be powered by the ships capacitor as if it were a standard warp scrambler module. The effect would be a 90 km (45 km radius) bubble emitting from the ship, but rendering the ship immobile for the duration that the module is active, similar to a cyno. In addition to this standard bubble module, it would have the ability to generate "Gravity wells" for entire systems and not just a grid or a bubbled area, or for a number of systems (within x amount of light years range of the ship) if it activated the gravity well generator which could be fueled by Stront. Essentially, the Capital Interdictor would be a mobile system wide cynojamming dreadnought hybrid. If the Generator is activated, it would lose all maneuvering and warping capability, in addition to targeting sensors as with conventional siege modules, but would still retain low and medium slot functionality to enable tanking. But once the Generator is active, no captial ship can jump into the field to reinforce the attacking/defending fleets, nor can they jump out of the system until the CDIC runs out of stront or is destroyed. I would also recommend that the Capital Interdictor Skillbook as suggested by Athena, have the prerequisites of Dreadnought 4/5 & Tactical Weapon Reconfiguration 3/4 in addition to Graviton Physics V, HIC V, Capital Ships V Rank 14 Skill
Vengeance Raze Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 16:39:00 - [23] Taking out the entire grid is ott, but taking out a system, or a couple is psycho ott!
I'm Down	Posted - 2010.09.21 16:39:00 - [24] I mean, basically what you got there is a mothership with a focused point type of siege.... so why do we need a new ship in game. Just add a module to a mothership that creates the listed effects.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2010.09.21 16:46:00 - [25] We need to reign in capitals, not expand on them. Your solution is very wasteful as well, why not just add a capital size version of the warp disruption field generators that is non-scriptable (ie. permanent infini-point)?
Athena Olaf Amarr Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 17:02:00 - [26] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida We need to reign in capitals, not expand on them. Your solution is very wasteful as well, why not just add a capital size version of the warp disruption field generators that is non-scriptable (ie. permanent infini-point)? As others have posted, yes this is an option. But IMO having what...Carriers, Dreads, Supercarriers, Titans...4 classes of ship(not including the Cap indys but if you want 6 total)...woooo dude don't go too far compared to the 24 sub-cap classes... People moan about reigning in Capitals...but thats on the massive totals we have in game now...this new type/class, actively goes out to pin the feckers down = more dead capitals...including the Supers. A solution to your gripe.
Zilberfrid	Posted - 2010.09.21 17:04:00 - [27] I like this idea, a lot, I want to cover it with wet sloppy kisses. ------------------------------------- I like to fly around and shoot stuff.
Asuka Solo Gallente We Br4ke for Nobody	Posted - 2010.09.21 17:08:00 - [28] Edited by: Asuka Solo on 21/09/2010 17:17:56 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida We need to reign in capitals, not expand on them. Your solution is very wasteful as well, why not just add a capital size version of the warp disruption field generators that is non-scriptable (ie. permanent infini-point)? I disagree. I believe we should be expanding capitals. The moment we have multiple variants of dread and carrier hulls, t2s and t3 capitals, with more uses for them aside from logistics and POS bashing then I would be willing to wager we've started going overboard. But until the 4 capital classes have been expanded somewhat & new hulls brought in, i think give sub capital expansion the back seat.
Nomistrav	Posted - 2010.09.21 17:13:00 - [29] While I like the idea I don't like the idea of it being Doomsday preventable. This would make the Titans sort of null in the aspect of being an anti-capital imo and pretty much all the more reason to keep a titan in a POS and bridge only..
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.09.21 17:43:00 - [30] I like the idea of it being a new Titan module. It could use the doomsday mount - meaning, you either mount a DD or this. -> More logistical roles for Titans, not just "space taxi" or "click you're dead". -> No need for another art asset - more likely to be implemented. -> No need for even more capships. -> With this power should come the responsibility of losing a BIG ship. I also agree that it shouldn't effect subcaps - disabling warps in such a large radius removes a lot of tactical options. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real!

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