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Cash Equivalent
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Posted - 2010.10.22 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Cash Equivalent on 22/10/2010 19:01:31
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
How is that floor 'false' if I may ask? 
I'm glad you did!
It's false because it's being maintained by an individual or consortium following a common plan to keep prices up as long as possible. 1 guy with 6 accounts, Margin Trading V, and deep pockets could be responsible for this whole mess. Prices aren't staying this high due to natural market forces. They aren't going to be going any higher because there are inherent limits to this kind of strategy. Things are starting to tip so we'll see what happens.
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Razor Tuna
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Posted - 2010.10.22 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Razor Tuna on 22/10/2010 19:57:43 This ISK manipulation began occuring around the time or just after the Bad Bobby scam. If I remember correctly Plex was going for ~300m ISK before that. He's one of the only people I can think of who have the ISK and motive to do it that are on the top of my head.
I know it sounds trite "ooo bab bobby!" and if anyone knows of anyone else who has the means and motive to do it that is a possibility as well. But this is surely not the work of a group of players because the opportunity to screw everyone else would be way to high.
So who else has close to a trillion ISK to do suck a thing? Perhaps the EBANK scammers? It could only be a a couple of suspects.
Koodos to you if you're reading this and your doing it with unfounded billions just because you can and I am nowhere near your identity because you are unknown.
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.10.22 22:02:00 -
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... or it could be that there are just now a whole lot of fewer sellers and a lot more buyers.
What you get for one PLEX hasn't changed ever, it's 30 days of game time, yet the price went up and up over the years. Why didn't it stay at the original ~110mil? Because people want more ISK for the $15 the spent. Gradually sellers raise the price because they can as buyers are willing to pay that price. Why are PLEXes selling for 400 now? Because there are plenty of people who are willing to pay that and more since there's nothing else to spend ISK on anyway. Not that hard really. |

Razor Tuna
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Posted - 2010.10.23 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Donai ... or it could be that there are just now a whole lot of fewer sellers and a lot more buyers.
What you get for one PLEX hasn't changed ever, it's 30 days of game time, yet the price went up and up over the years. Why didn't it stay at the original ~110mil? Because people want more ISK for the $15 the spent. Gradually sellers raise the price because they can as buyers are willing to pay that price. Why are PLEXes selling for 400 now? Because there are plenty of people who are willing to pay that and more since there's nothing else to spend ISK on anyway. Not that hard really.
Did you miss this thread.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.10.23 00:13:00 -
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I can think of at least a dozen or so players who have a couple-few hundred Bil they could throw at something like this because they either felt like it or thought it was a good idea, and this isn't including nameless alts that deal in such volumes in public places (such as with T2 BPO trading, etc). EVE is not that small. ______________________________
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.10.23 02:58:00 -
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argh its over :(. Was fun while it lasted.
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.10.23 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Selene D'Celeste I can think of at least a dozen or so players who have a couple-few hundred Bil they could throw at something like this because they either felt like it or thought it was a good idea, and this isn't including nameless alts that deal in such volumes in public places (such as with T2 BPO trading, etc). EVE is not that small.
I blame F90OEX and his untold trillions.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2010.10.23 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin argh its over :(. Was fun while it lasted.
Yeah and while ya'll weren't watching large sections of PI started doing fun things.
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Dositheus
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Posted - 2010.10.23 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin argh its over :(. Was fun while it lasted.
Or... is it?

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AstarothPrime
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Posted - 2010.10.25 07:01:00 -
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Maybe it one of the ISK farmers / scammers cashing out.
You need to be quick about it before CCP locks your account... therefore you need to sell them FAST to ppl who you previously gathered / made arrangements with, then big action to buy off enough PLEX to cover the arrangement...
Seems viable option. And 30% - 50% loss is nothing when ISK came from nowhere and $$ are deposited to your RL account, dont you think?
Just my 2 cents - this is purely a speculation of possible reason to this PLEX situation.
I.
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Inbrainsane
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Posted - 2010.10.25 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dositheus
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It is.
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Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.10.28 02:59:00 -
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be interesting to see how far plex fall now that the plex for remap thing appears to be in doubt.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2010.10.28 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Vilgan Mazran be interesting to see how far plex fall now that the plex for remap thing appears to be in doubt.
Source?
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.10.28 06:39:00 -
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actually looks like plex just rebound
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: corestwo
Originally by: Vilgan Mazran be interesting to see how far plex fall now that the plex for remap thing appears to be in doubt.
Source?
Yes, sauce?
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Lanais Suleia
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Posted - 2010.10.28 21:12:00 -
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Anonymous delivers.
http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_11-12_10_2010.pdf
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Tasko Pal
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.10.29 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lanais Suleia Anonymous delivers.
http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_11-12_10_2010.pdf
It starts on page 4. Basically the CSM raised several concerns about the use of PLEX instead of isk for these things. For example, PLEX for non-vanity items could grant advantage to alliances with "sugar daddies", things that can only be bought with PLEX could result in devaluation/inflation of isk, and PLEX for remaps is a crude case of cash for skill points.
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Dana Gilmour
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Posted - 2010.10.29 06:57:00 -
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The only thing that keeps PLEX price from crashing to previous values are the very large buy orders that continues to appear. However, they can only buy so much PLEXes at an artificially inflated price. In the end market will have its way and most of them will end up with hundreds of PLEXes bought at prices way bigger than the price PLEX will stabilize to.
It's fun to watch these pointless efforts though.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.10.29 09:44:00 -
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yes, im sure it has nothing to do with only 20 something plexes in Citadel on sell orders for example. Lets face it - people buy plexes and will buy them no matter the price, and it looks like price is rising again.
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Dana Gilmour
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Posted - 2010.10.29 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: Dana Gilmour on 29/10/2010 10:51:54
Originally by: Rasz Lin yes, im sure it has nothing to do with only 20 something plexes in Citadel on sell orders for example. Lets face it - people buy plexes and will buy them no matter the price, and it looks like price is rising again.
Read again what you just wrote. The stupidity of it might amaze even yourself.
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Spruillo
Gallente Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.30 22:24:00 -
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I just dumped my stock should have done it a week ago a few traders have 15 more plex prob wont get what they bought for
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Dana Gilmour
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Posted - 2010.10.31 05:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dana Gilmour on 31/10/2010 05:09:51
Originally by: Spruillo I just dumped my stock should have done it a week ago a few traders have 15 more plex prob wont get what they bought for
Don't worry, there are many like you. Will be fun to watch the price when all those thousands of stashed PLEXes will be out for sale.
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Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.10.31 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dana Gilmour Edited by: Dana Gilmour on 31/10/2010 05:09:51
Originally by: Spruillo I just dumped my stock should have done it a week ago a few traders have 15 more plex prob wont get what they bought for
Don't worry, there are many like you. Will be fun to watch the price when all those thousands of stashed PLEXes will be out for sale.
probably won't be a big crash until the expansion comes out and you can't remap for plex after all.
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.10.31 19:22:00 -
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I doubt CCP will roll back their plans for the remap though.
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Dana Gilmour
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Posted - 2010.10.31 20:42:00 -
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Doesn't matter much. The rise in price due to the remap announcement happened already, from now on prices will only go down no matter if PLEX for remap will be introduced or not. And I have a hunch that even if it will be, they'll limit it to 1-2 plex a year so the effect on market won't be significant anyways.
But would be indeed fun to not happen at all.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.11.01 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dana Gilmour Doesn't matter much. The rise in price due to the remap announcement happened already, from now on prices will only go down no matter if PLEX for remap will be introduced or not. And I have a hunch that even if it will be, they'll limit it to 1-2 plex a year so the effect on market won't be significant anyways.
But would be indeed fun to not happen at all.
I like how you made this alt only to try and convince everyone that plex is tanking :) What is your problem anyway? Too poor to plex ur accounts? Too hard to farm isk for plexes sold on ebay?
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Dana Gilmour
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Posted - 2010.11.01 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin
Originally by: Dana Gilmour Doesn't matter much. The rise in price due to the remap announcement happened already, from now on prices will only go down no matter if PLEX for remap will be introduced or not. And I have a hunch that even if it will be, they'll limit it to 1-2 plex a year so the effect on market won't be significant anyways.
But would be indeed fun to not happen at all.
I like how you made this alt only to try and convince everyone that plex is tanking :) What is your problem anyway? Too poor to plex ur accounts? Too hard to farm isk for plexes sold on ebay?
I like how you try and convinge others that PLEX can only rise to high heaven and above. What's your problem anyway? Bought too many PLEXex at 380M? Too stupid to produce any decent amount of ISK?
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.01 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin
Originally by: Dana Gilmour Doesn't matter much. The rise in price due to the remap announcement happened already, from now on prices will only go down no matter if PLEX for remap will be introduced or not. And I have a hunch that even if it will be, they'll limit it to 1-2 plex a year so the effect on market won't be significant anyways.
But would be indeed fun to not happen at all.
I like how you made this alt only to try and convince everyone that plex is tanking :) What is your problem anyway? Too poor to plex ur accounts? Too hard to farm isk for plexes sold on ebay?
What is your definition of 'tanking' I wonder? Since PLEX prices have indeed gone down quite fast after the manipulation attempt.
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Dana Gilmour
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Posted - 2010.11.01 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Originally by: Rasz Lin
I like how you made this alt only to try and convince everyone that plex is tanking :) What is your problem anyway? Too poor to plex ur accounts? Too hard to farm isk for plexes sold on ebay?
What is your definition of 'tanking' I wonder? Since PLEX prices have indeed gone down quite fast after the manipulation attempt.
But it's a known fact that after each manipulation the "normal" price is the price for that item changes to the highest recorded price when the manipulation was peaking. Especially if you have an interest in wanting to fool people that the price will rise to the skies and never come down. Or if you have no brain. One or the other.
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.07 08:47:00 -
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Plexs just jumped up to 380.
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