I agree that is the reason people generally fight on gates. However, why should it always be that way? Why not add in factors to either encourage pilots to be in belts, at planets etc?

It's amazing how the rest of the game thinks in a different way than I do. I have absolutely no sense of attachment or fear of loss or risk. If I lose a ship, I lose several millions sure, then I have to buy a new clone and fit a new ship, but big ******* deal?

Are all of these pirates seriously running around with pods and ships they can't afford to lose? What's wrong with you people. Stop being girly-men. Engage your target and fight to the death. If you lose your officer-fit rifter and 10b pod, that's your dumb-ass mistake not mine.

Okay genius, where should people fight in low sec then?

You can't drag people into bubbles in low sec so the only places fights can happen is gates and stations (docking games are fun?).

Ps. ganking mission runners isn't legit pvp.

If you turds would just get off gates and hunt like REAL pirates,

If you turds would just get off gates and hunt like REAL pirates, there wouldn't be a need to change the way gates work in low. Stop hugging gates to gain an advantage (because your 93843 million ISK ship going after that cheaply fit Rifter wasn't good enough) and get your asses out there and destroy ships in SPACE. Get off your front porch, you whiny pussies.

I'm a goddamn new player that immediately went to lowsec space to carve out my niche. Even I'M not ***** enough to sit at a gate. I hunt when I'm feeling froggy. You veterans sitting around at the gates make my teeth itch. Get off the gates and join the rest of the world.

So , as with the last null guy who showed the way to small gang piracy i'll just burst the bubble of this char too.


Battleclinic shows 119 kills of wich the largest portion was 50 to 200+ people on the killmail and the smallest i believe was a dramkill with 3 people. Not one single kill on your name , not even for a damn cyno kessie.

Regarding how you don't mind loosing crap as you say: 33 losses of wich the most expensive is a blackbird - you know the 5 mille isk ship - and all the rest are rifters and pods.


Now if you want to come in here and show the pirates how to properly pvp and compare it to your own awsomness then by all means post with a character that HAS a decent killboard showing his 1vs1 or 2vs1 fights and if possible low-sec kills would even top it offf to prove your point.

So as i told the other guy too , go to low-sec ALONE or with 2 to 3 friends at most and try it for a month and see how many kills you'll get that are not on the gates.Your small gang fleets are 30 guys , for a pirate fleet that's massive.Unless you have another char wich HAS pvp'd in low-sec you have absolutely no frikking idea what you're talking about.


And yet again just to re-iterate : i am not a pirate but these types of posts are just too hilarious/sad and full of air.

You mean the Real Pirates who fart around the Gulf of Aiden (the best route for Oil Tankers to take from the Middle East)?
Or the Real Pirates who sit around the Strait of Malacca (the best route for crossing between the Pacific and Indian Oceans?

Pirates hang around Choke Points to catch their prey. Always have, always will.

You mean the Real Pirates who fart around the Gulf of Aiden (the best route for Oil Tankers to take from the Middle East)?
Or the Real Pirates who sit around the Strait of Malacca (the best route for crossing between the Pacific and Indian Oceans?

Pirates hang around Choke Points to catch their prey. Always have, always will.

Educate yourself before you post bullshit, those pirates are not in right in the strait, they are in nearby shipping lanes. The straits themselves are gaurded by several nations warships.

"around the" not "around in the"

"around Choke Points" not "around in Choke Points"

A decent pirate corp/alliance cares about its killboard in much the same way as a hi-sec merc corp does. Both groups usually fit their ship to win, not by using t2 modules, but hi-end faction and in some cases officer mods. So when you get ganked, its not because they cheat, it's because they are better and more well prepared than you :-)

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Yeah because low sec entities never hot drop with 10+ BO's/reccons a single ship, hell I saw hot drop on a single command ship with those + supers...so funny indeed, wow, that's great stuff.

"around the" not "around in the"

"around Choke Points" not "around in Choke Points"

You mean the Real Pirates who fart around the Gulf of Aiden (the best route for Oil Tankers to take from the Middle East)?
Or the Real Pirates who sit around the Strait of Malacca (the best route for crossing between the Pacific and Indian Oceans?

Pirates hang around Choke Points to catch their prey. Always have, always will.

Yeah because low sec entities never hot drop with 10+ BO's/reccons a single ship, hell I saw hot drop on a single command ship with those + supers...so funny indeed, wow, that's great stuff.

You mean the Real Pirates who fart around the Gulf of Aiden (the best route for Oil Tankers to take from the Middle East)?
Or the Real Pirates who sit around the Strait of Malacca (the best route for crossing between the Pacific and Indian Oceans?

Pirates hang around Choke Points to catch their prey. Always have, always will.

If you turds would just get off gates and hunt like REAL pirates, there wouldn't be a need to change the way gates work in low. Stop hugging gates to gain an advantage (because your 93843 million ISK ship going after that cheaply fit Rifter wasn't good enough) and get your asses out there and destroy ships in SPACE. Get off your front porch, you whiny pussies.

I'm a goddamn new player that immediately went to lowsec space to carve out my niche. Even I'M not ***** enough to sit at a gate. I hunt when I'm feeling froggy. You veterans sitting around at the gates make my teeth itch. Get off the gates and join the rest of the world.

So , as with the last null guy who showed the way to small gang piracy i'll just burst the bubble of this char too.


Battleclinic shows 119 kills of wich the largest portion was 50 to 200+ people on the killmail and the smallest i believe was a dramkill with 3 people. Not one single kill on your name , not even for a damn cyno kessie.

Regarding how you don't mind loosing crap as you say: 33 losses of wich the most expensive is a blackbird - you know the 5 mille isk ship - and all the rest are rifters and pods.


Now if you want to come in here and show the pirates how to properly pvp and compare it to your own awsomness then by all means post with a character that HAS a decent killboard showing his 1vs1 or 2vs1 fights and if possible low-sec kills would even top it offf to prove your point.

So as i told the other guy too , go to low-sec ALONE or with 2 to 3 friends at most and try it for a month and see how many kills you'll get that are not on the gates.Your small gang fleets are 30 guys , for a pirate fleet that's massive.Unless you have another char wich HAS pvp'd in low-sec you have absolutely no frikking idea what you're talking about.


And yet again just to re-iterate : i am not a pirate but these types of posts are just too hilarious/sad and full of air.

And?

So because you saw it once its automaticly normal for lowsec, dont be ******* stupid. I can make the exact same claim about every major null sec alliance and guess what, it still means nothing!!

You have no problem with blobbing the crap out of things so I fail to see how you can complain about '90% of PVP being on gates' (It isn't and you are completely ignorant of the facts). Get a grip and learn to be competent.

Agreed, piracy has nothing to do with Quake or Team Fortress like PvP, it's not about being fair, it's about trying to make a profit. You go where the prey is and try to move to odds into your favor as much as possible.

And I don't do piracy, or any pvp, I'm just another carebear. There should be a big banner every time you start up EVE saying: THIS GAME IS NOT FAIR, DEAL WITH IT.

Around as in far, out of sight far, away.

So in gate terms, not in scan range.

We agree, pirates should not hang at the gates.

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I understand the problem which the OP has.
But it's a general problem of EvE and how it works.

Just two points:
1) you fly in a bubble which is 500*500 km (grid) and even Belts which are just 0,1 AU in distance are to far to travel without warp.

2) no collision detection. You can shot through Asteriods (HARD ROCK), Stations, other Ships and all the stuff which make fights tactical in other games. It's funny, that you can bump ships, rocks, stations ... but your weapons ignore them ALL.

First problem could be solved by makeing grids bigger like 2000km*2000km.

Second problem is easy to solve too.

But both problems can't be solved as CCP wanted to much with fights 1000 v 1000 v 1000 as they happen sometimes. The pur CPU power which woud be needed ... isn't invented till now ;).

Second problem (collisions/line of sight) is easy to WRITE a solution for, but if you know anything about computer science you know about the efficiency issue.

Why not add in factors to either encourage pilots to be in belts, at planets etc?

You've missed the point entirely. This isn't about what's fair or not. This is about people bitching that lowsec is dead. People have stated time and time and time and time again that they are afraid of gate campers. I hear it EVERY night. CCP tries to apply a fix to gatecamping to get people to move out of High and into Low, and they ***** more.