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Thyme Waster
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Posted - 2010.11.11 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Emah Spina TBH, I don't see a need for a faction super carrier. What the game needs and have been needing for years is named capital mods. And instead of that worthless collection of pixels, boss loot could be faction capital mods.
And why the need for a faction pve super carrier? Why couldn't you settle for a mere faction carrier instead ?
This. Faction carriers would have been so much more useful.
Another idea to make it more interesting/useful: let it use wormholes.
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Evelgrivion
Ignatium.
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Posted - 2010.11.11 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Evelgrivion on 11/11/2010 21:53:22
Originally by: Dmoney3788 Oh I dunno, because it takes more, much much more training time to train for it, and pirate faction ships are traditionally better than the existing ones.
Also guys, the name of the ship on the test server is the REVENANT
See this post; http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1413344&page=3#83
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LoveKebab
Caldari LOST IDEA C0VEN
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:02:00 -
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i take nyx over this piece if crap anyday CCP xVid4PSP MKV Encoding Tutorial |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:06:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Emah Spina TBH, I don't see a need for a faction super carrier. What the game needs and have been needing for years is named capital mods. And instead of that worthless collection of pixels, boss loot could be faction capital mods.
And why the need for a faction pve super carrier? Why couldn't you settle for a mere faction carrier instead ?
You are aware that this expansion is adding faction capital gear, right?
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Dmoney3788
THE DISC
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 11/11/2010 21:53:22
Originally by: Dmoney3788 Oh I dunno, because it takes more, much much more training time to train for it, and pirate faction ships are traditionally better than the existing ones.
Also guys, the name of the ship on the test server is the REVENANT
See this post; http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1413344&page=3#83
Ok, so why would anyone bother flying it if its on par with a nyx, but at a probably higher cost because of the rarity of the bpc, and worse overall EHP with higher skill requirements? Hell, the reason why people bother with current faction ships, despite their increased skill requirements and cost is because they do something better than the standard ships of their classes.
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Dureem Kador
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:14:00 -
[96]
Super Carrier. More like POOPER Carrier HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Evelgrivion
Ignatium.
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Evelgrivion on 11/11/2010 22:15:14
Originally by: Dmoney3788 Ok, so why would anyone bother flying it if its on par with a nyx, but at a probably higher cost because of the rarity of the bpc, and worse overall EHP with higher skill requirements? Hell, the reason why people bother with current faction ships, despite their increased skill requirements and cost is because they do something better than the standard ships of their classes.
The Revenant not on par with the Nyx. As a matter of fact, it has more damage potential than the Nyx does; with the extra high slots, any Revenant pilot has an excuse to equip drone control units without giving up traditional high slot staples on Super Carriers. A Nyx with 5 drone control units can do 12,500 DPS with fighter bombers. A Revenant can equip six and do 13,000 DPS and have a utility high slot left over.
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Xynosura
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto ...expansion is adding faction capital gear, right?
Where you see this? I only see named capital gear and a Sansha FB.
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Dmoney3788
THE DISC
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Evelgrivion
The Revenant is not on par with the Nyx. As a matter of fact, it has more damage potential than the Nyx does; with the extra high slots, any Revenant pilot has an excuse to equip drone control units without giving up traditional high slot staples on Super Carriers. A Nyx with 5 drone control units can do 12,500 DPS with fighter bombers. A Revenant can equip six and do 13,000 DPS and have a utility high slot left over.
And like everyone in this whole thread has basically said, DCU's are seldom seen in pvp. And you're right, its not on par with the nyx, it has the EHP of a hel give or take. The Revenant reminds me of most faction ships pre dominion. More or less a way to show off how big your wallet is, but going for straight performance its garbage for the cost.
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Kesper North
Caldari Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 11/11/2010 22:17:52 The Revenant is not on par with the Nyx. As a matter of fact, it has more damage potential than the Nyx does; with the extra high slots, any Revenant pilot has an excuse to equip drone control units without giving up traditional high slot staples on Super Carriers. A Nyx with 5 drone control units can do 12,500 DPS with fighter bombers. A Revenant can equip six and do 13,000 DPS and have a utility high slot left over.
You're missing the point: Sure the potential exists, but no one actually flies supercarriers in combat with DCUs. High slots on a supercarrier are for neuts, smartbombs, projected ECM and cloak - they are how you clear tackle and escape. The warfare link and remote rep bonuses are likewise practically useless. -- Killed me? Read about it in my blog! Northern Lights: Solo PVP in EVE Online
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xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: xttz on 11/11/2010 22:33:28 So yeah, it's a Nyx with Hel EHP
(or a Hel with Nyx DPS)
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1011/sansha.png
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Dmoney3788
THE DISC
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Xynosura
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto ...expansion is adding faction capital gear, right?
Where you see this? I only see named capital gear and a Sansha FB.
Confirmed that the test server concord lp only contains meta 2 versions of all capital turrets and launchers, capital shield, armor and energy RR and capital shield boosters and armor reps.
There's a crap ton of hardwirings in the concord lp store as well, but there are no additional attribute enhancers.
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Imnothuman
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:39:00 -
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Has no one failed to notice this is a Sansha ship as with all sansha ships it should have half the number but the same damage (turrets or drones)
I belive all the ships stats should relate to what is across the rest of the ships in its race, for this i would recomend this:
Amarr Carrier 50% bonus to Capital Energy transfer range per level 7.5% bonus to capacitor capacity
Caldari Carrier 7.5% bonus to shield resistance per level 50% bonus to Capital Shield transfer range per level
Role bonus 200% damage bonus to drone fighter and fighter bomber Can deploy 5 additional drones Can use 3 warfare modules
its similar to other SCs but is also having some major differences
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XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:48:00 -
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I see no problem with this, it's the ultimate carebear ship for the demographic of pilots who in terms of isk invested and want for a giant security blanket with little to no risk are the ultimate carebears in the game.
Two thumbs up CCP
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Floopy'Beef Curtains
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:53:00 -
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Ship:
BONUSES:
Special Ability: 30% to maximum jump range ( make 50% )
Can activate one extra Drone Control Unit
change to 7 turret slots with 200% dmg mod 50% tracking bonus or each dcu allows 3 extra drones to be used
Amarr Carrier Skill Bonuses: Can deploy 3 additional Fighters or Fighter Bombers per level
Can fit 1 additional Warfare Link module per level
Caldari Carrier Skill Bonuses: 50% bonus to Capital Energy and Shield transfer range per level ( also add 5% to amount )
5% bonus to deployed Fighters or Fighter Bomber damage per level Role Bonuses:
( add a dual role bonus for both Amarr Carrier skill and Caldari Carrier when both skill's are at lvl 5% to all shield resist per lvl )
99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules Can fit Projected Electronic Counter Measures 200% bonus to Fighter or Fighter Bomber control range Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare
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Trinergon
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:53:00 -
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Stats and design seem controversial, mediocre at least. Currently this thing doesn't look like a winner.
It should have an unique, story-related feature or a specific niche. Something like like significantly reduced mass for wormhole jumps or even a wormhole generator device.
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Travis Musgrat
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:59:00 -
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If you REALLY want to make this a good super. You need to give it a 5%/level or 25% boost to shield resistances, and also if you want to force us to use drone control units, allow each dcu to control 2 or 3 extra fighters/fighter bombers. Then it will do more damage than the Nyx, it will have a beastly shield tank, and there will be a reason for everyone to move eve from a purely armor tanking pvp game to a mixture of tanks.
If you fixed the hel that would also make a shield tanking faction super much more viable. But regardless, don't give us 1 extra dcu, because that's literally only something a carebear would worry about. Give us 2 or 3 extra drones/fighters/bombers per dcu, then we will see a noticeable value over fitting tons of smartbombs/neuts/remote rep/cloak.
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Galtiner
Gallente Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:18:00 -
[108]
From looking at the slot layout and base stats, It looks like this will have even less tank than a Hel. On the plus side the Hel will no longer be primary!
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CannibalCorpseZor
Caldari ZER0. IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:26:00 -
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At first give a normal bonus for Hel, then think out something new!
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Pervigilo Alea
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: Pervigilo Alea on 11/11/2010 23:42:07 Hm I dunno, with the prototype specs the Sansha SC is literally only good for PVE (lol ******ed sanctum boat) or solo long-range cynogen ganking.
Also, is it me or the Sansha Fighterbomber aka "Shadow" is crap, seems to be inferior in nearly every way compared to conventional fighterbombers?
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Kastsumi Kobayariel
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:42:00 -
[111]
So not only does it look like a turd, it also has the stats of a turd. Nice troll, CCP, nice troll.
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Thyme Waster
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:52:00 -
[112]
Maybe they introduce it with crap-tastic looks / stats, THEN patch it into super-pwnmobile later?
Still in favor of making it weirder instead of better. Wormhole generation sounds like a cool idea, maybe as an AOE attack that sucks everything in with it to a random wormhole?
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Douchie McNitpick
Money Liberation Services Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.12 00:08:00 -
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Balance will surely improve by introducing another overpowered pile of ***** into the game. No matter how bad the stats are for this turd, it's still an overpowered ship without a counter.
Congratulations ccp, keep pouring more ***** over 0.0 balance. Much appreciated.
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teeknuckles
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Posted - 2010.11.12 00:13:00 -
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what this ship really needs is to be like the t3 where u can make your set up make it either are sheild/armor as many mids are lows or highs as u want.it would be only fair seince you have too train for two carriers.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.12 00:16:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Douchie McNitpick Balance will surely improve by introducing another overpowered pile of ***** into the game. No matter how bad the stats are for this turd, it's still an overpowered ship without a counter.
Congratulations ccp, keep pouring more ***** over 0.0 balance. Much appreciated.
the counter is an aeon
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Eessi
Caldari Murderous Inc
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Posted - 2010.11.12 00:20:00 -
[116]
Hahahaha!!!
CCP thinks super carriers are logistics ships! ahahaha!!! they have the sansha SC a 30% range bonus! hahahahaha
this is F'ed up. hahahahaha!!
a supercarrier with a bonus which a jump freighter would kill to have. hahahaha!! F*'ing losers.
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Doctero
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.11.12 00:28:00 -
[117]
I get it, it'a not a faction SC, its a faction CS: Sansha's Christmas Special
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.12 00:38:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 11/11/2010 22:15:14
Originally by: Dmoney3788 Ok, so why would anyone bother flying it if its on par with a nyx, but at a probably higher cost because of the rarity of the bpc, and worse overall EHP with higher skill requirements? Hell, the reason why people bother with current faction ships, despite their increased skill requirements and cost is because they do something better than the standard ships of their classes.
The Revenant is not on par with the Nyx. As a matter of fact, it has more damage potential than the Nyx does; with the extra high slots, any Revenant pilot has an excuse to equip drone control units without giving up traditional high slot staples on Super Carriers. A Nyx with 5 drone control units can do 12,500 DPS with fighter bombers. A Revenant can equip six and do 13,000 DPS and have a utility high slot left over.
And if I take the tank off my Avatar to add six extra heat sinks I can gain like 500 DPS too. The question you should be asking is now why would I be such a goddamned idiot that I take off 6 useful modules for that crap?
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Dayfox
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.12 01:00:00 -
[119]
Revenant Image
Wonder if im the first to post this? Enjoy, hope its better than any of you expected after the placeholder images that were posted.
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Lascano
Traumark Shadow Elite H Y E N A
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Posted - 2010.11.12 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Lascano on 12/11/2010 01:27:34 CCP how about makeing it 50% less dps than a regular SC 50% less tank than a regular SC 50% less cost than a regular SC and make it a trend to all ''new comming faction SC'' -if it ever comes to that
That way we'd see 5~6k dps... 10~15mil EHP... 6~10bil 'supercarriers'.... i'm sore that way the ship would be much more popular... maybe even let it dock ? |
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