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Abramul
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Posted - 2010.11.18 19:18:00 -
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Had there been any statements as to whether supercarriers for other pirate factions were planned? I was assuming this was going to be the only one, which is why I'd suggested an all-around, somewhat overpowered set of bonuses.
As far as giving it (and any other pirate SCs, if they're planned) a useful role without making it too powerful, what about:
Add a siege-type module that, when active,
a) allows death clones to be set to the ship as if it were a corporate office, OR
b) automatically reroutes death clones of subordinate fleet members
Standard boosted tank/no RR, maybe require that it be outside a POS shield.
You'd probably want to have clones use materials instead of ISK, logical materials would be Biomass or corpses. Amount should be slightly to moderately more expensive than station clones, and dependent upon skill points of the cloned pilot.
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Sigras
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Posted - 2010.11.19 00:39:00 -
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so I dont understand the complaints about jump range.
These supercarriers can jump with normal carriers to repair them . . . I understand that it isnt as totally overpowered as the other faction ships are against their non faction counterparts but it is a nice bonus, and the normal supercarrier is already so overpowered, its totally worth it.
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Baylesh
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Posted - 2010.11.19 01:31:00 -
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Sansha use WH's... bonus jump range would be nice for moving between wh's or transporting... Is CCP finally being nice to WH dwellers and giving us a Mom who can love and care for us?!
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.19 05:51:00 -
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WH are still too far apart to jump between. If youve ever brought a cap into one you know there is absolutely no way even a carrier with this bonus could jump between them.
I for one would like to see the the MS bonus changed to a fleet bonus that gives +30% jump range to the entire fleet(Obviously capitals only) as stated here. I think this would give the TS MS a unique role and help it find a place in fleets as more than a ****ty gimmick which it currently is.
I would also like to know how CCP went from some of the sexiest ships in Eve and decided to throw away a previously winning formula to make *that* graphical abomination.
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Splinter 07
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Posted - 2010.11.19 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Splinter 07 on 19/11/2010 07:11:05
I dont like the idea of training 2 carrier race skill books... maybe amarr and caldari BS 5 and a faction SC skillbook?
On a side note, dont know why everyone wants shield.... you can shield tank everything these days, myrms, harbs, hyps, apocs, sacs ect almost all armor ships do better with shield, i would personally like to see a GOOD armor tank.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.11.19 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Mag''s on 19/11/2010 10:20:37
 Originally by: Splinter 07
Edited by: Splinter 07 on 19/11/2010 07:11:05
I dont like the idea of training 2 carrier race skill books... maybe amarr and caldari BS 5 and a faction SC skillbook?
They do wish they had created a Mothership skill at the time of conception, but the horse has already bolted on that.
Just be glad you don't have to deal with training both race carrier skills to 5, to fly this thing.
Both race skills for a faction ship is the norm. As it stands you've got off lightly, suck it up.
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
I would also like to know how CCP went from some of the sexiest ships in Eve and decided to throw away a previously winning formula to make *that* graphical abomination.
It's hands down, it's the fugliest ship in eve. What were they thinking?
Originally by: Allestin Villimar
Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax
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Syndemic
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Posted - 2010.11.19 18:52:00 -
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All you had to do is either make it look cool or give it useful bonuses.
You did neither.
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C4rnag3
Dark-Rising
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.20 01:24:00 -
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Im wondering, why CCP ist using this boring textures.
There is no depth, no stucture compared to earlier models from trinity.
Since the DUST develpment, all new models (ships, stationarys etc) looks the same and ugly.
Im sorry, but these new models suck!
Where is -sgeir -sgeirsson? what happened to him?
Bring up the old stuff!!
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Aria Chen
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Posted - 2010.11.20 07:08:00 -
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I think ill stick with the Nyx...
Thanks though..
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CodeBreake
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Posted - 2010.11.20 16:12:00 -
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Why ccp didnt do like 3 sansha sc models then let the comunity chose one, instead doing a crapy one and stick it up ppl throats ? |
Lady Mu
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Posted - 2010.11.20 16:55:00 -
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we have until january before this goes live.
For christ's sake ccp, give us a new model.
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Desya Dak'ann
Caldari
Special Space Marines
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Posted - 2010.11.20 18:27:00 -
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I think the Hel has a sister ship, the Revanant, or shall I say the ****naught
Rule 7: Thou Shalt not whine. |
Nicram Starfall
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Posted - 2010.11.21 02:07:00 -
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how about swap DCU bonus and jump range to:
5% shield resist per lvl
+100% bonus to smartbomb dmg (role bonus)
+100% bonus to range for neuts (role bonus)
Or at least two of those... :)
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Budrick3
Devious Decorum
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Posted - 2010.11.21 03:56:00 -
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Edited by: Budrick3 on 21/11/2010 03:56:06
this is terr-bad, and a joke. Who is running ccp anyways? I think there focusing to much on making the blondes hair fall just right, and their boobs bounce just so in the next release instead of acutally thinking this through. |
Agallis Zinthros
SniggWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.11.21 07:00:00 -
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Edited by: Agallis Zinthros on 21/11/2010 07:03:21
Shield tanked capitals are and forever will be utterly and completely worthless compared to armor caps / supercaps because of the lack of shield slaves. We need implants that give +x% shields, or to completely remove slaves in order for shield tanked capitals to ever compete with armor caps.
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Originally by: Abramul
logical materials would be Biomass or corpses. Amount should be slightly to moderately more expensive than station clones, and dependent upon skill points of the cloned pilot.
Holy crap this. Only resource being dead pods. Fund it CCP. Also maybe make it able to jump anywhere in a system with no cyno, and take a fleet of a certain size with it. Also give it a tanking bonus.
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Jaigar
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Posted - 2010.11.21 07:01:00 -
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First off: Sleeper technology plays a part in this ship and thats why it looks a bit sleeper-like.
Second: While you don't want to make having this faction Supercarrier mandatory, you still want it to bring something special to the battle. While the bonuses for command links are nice, making an unprobable warfare link tengu is still a better option for pumping out bonuses.
Still, it should be a flagship and fill that role. I don't know what that means for super-cap fights, but it needs something to be worth all that time and $$$ invested.
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FluffyDice
StarFckers Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.21 10:21:00 -
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i like this ship. I don't expect for it to do anything above ordinary. i just like it being there. Nice work CCP. If people don't like it they don't have to fly it.
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Killerhound
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.11.21 10:48:00 -
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Drone Control Unit
Make them so they are actually worth something. Instead of giving +1 Drone per one unit allow that each carrier / supercarrier can fit only one but it give to you as many drones as your skills allow. So you dont need to fit 5 + 1 Drone control unit to actually have any advantage with the Revenant.
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Hemp Invader
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.11.21 11:39:00 -
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1. Looks like ****.
2. Drones flying around this thing = flies flying around ****
3. Jump range is useless.
Why on earth is a drone control unit an active module? Doesn't eat up capacitor therefore it should be passive.
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Ghost Nightmare
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.21 11:52:00 -
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Call it the Night Terror, since most of the other sansha ships are named on seemingly progressive levels of bad dreams and a night terror is the one after nightmare, also it sounds *****in
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Natasha Nikolaev
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Posted - 2010.11.21 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ghost Nightmare
Call it the Night Terror, since most of the other sansha ships are named on seemingly progressive levels of bad dreams and a night terror is the one after nightmare, also it sounds *****in
Or perhaps the "Suddenly-Nude-In-Public"
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Ghost Hunter
True Slave Foundations
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Posted - 2010.11.22 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ghost Nightmare
Call it the Night Terror, since most of the other sansha ships are named on seemingly progressive levels of bad dreams and a night terror is the one after nightmare, also it sounds *****in
Night Terror = Titan name, tbh.
In terms of the Revenant's looks, I think it could use some more menacing spikes but I was surprisingly impressed when I saw it on SISI.
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Mattias Kerensky
Minmatar
The Flying Tigers
United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.22 20:45:00 -
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Edited by: Mattias Kerensky on 22/11/2010 20:46:12
Ok, I'm just a lowly subcap and dread pilot, so I'm not an expert or anything, but having flown the smaller Sansha ships, this extremely large floating mass of whale dung doesn't really fit in with the Sansha theme.
1. As stated by many, there just aren't enough spikes. Additionally, where's all the awesome spotlights?
2. Why are you taking normal supercarrier bonuses and trying to pass them off as faction racial bonuses? Why not a double Amarr damagebonus to fighterbombers, like a normal Sansha ship has a double laser damage bonus, and a Caldari bonus to shield boost amount, or shield resistances? Hell, 5% to shield hp per level? Something.
3. What's with the bonus to jump range? Aside from hauling someone's junk somewhere, leading a bunch of carriers in your fleet and nothing else, or jumping a long way to hotdrop a JF or ratting carrier, it doesn't make sense.
To conclude, this...thing would be a waste of time to crosstrain for, a waste of isk to save for, and a waste of pos shield interior space to park it in, imho. I came in hopeful, I left sad on the insides. :(
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.23 00:49:00 -
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Please please please don't ever suggest an active tank bonus to a supercap again. That will make it only useful for ratting.
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Mattias Kerensky
Minmatar
The Flying Tigers
United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.23 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Please please please don't ever suggest an active tank bonus to a supercap again. That will make it only useful for ratting.
You mean...like CCP's DCU bonus? :P You'll note I did post alternative tank bonuses, not being a supercap pilot I wasn't sure on that one.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.23 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mattias Kerensky
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Please please please don't ever suggest an active tank bonus to a supercap again. That will make it only useful for ratting.
You mean...like CCP's DCU bonus? :P You'll note I did post alternative tank bonuses, not being a supercap pilot I wasn't sure on that one.
How about this bonus. Also the DCU bonus is good, the only reason DCU's arent used heavily is because most of the game seems to have hate DCU's like 50's America hated black people.
DCU's are actually a decent thing to put into the highs if youre going to be in a large fleet where the individual modules you would have fit are covered by hundreds of other ships
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Sporked
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Posted - 2010.11.23 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ghost Nightmare
Call it the Night Terror, since most of the other sansha ships are named on seemingly progressive levels of bad dreams and a night terror is the one after nightmare, also it sounds *****in
Succubus and Phantasm aren't dreams either, go figure 
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stysss
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Posted - 2010.11.23 19:06:00 -
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i love all the goonswarm "positive trolls" here. it is obvious they are trolls, but because they are so ******ed it almost makes you think maybey they are not trolls.
a good troll is a goonswarm and a fundamentalist, both spew such ******ed BS that sounds like it has emotional backing, so you can't really tell if it is an epic troll or if they are just ******ed :D
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.23 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: stysss
i love all the goonswarm "positive trolls" here. it is obvious they are trolls, but because they are so ******ed it almost makes you think maybey they are not trolls.
a good troll is a goonswarm and a fundamentalist, both spew such ******ed BS that sounds like it has emotional backing, so you can't really tell if it is an epic troll or if they are just ******ed :D
The fact you can't recognize between trolling and honest discussion is hilarious. It's also fun to point out that the fact you see trolls in everything we say means you are not only paranoid but perma-trolled simply by our presence.
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Veronica Kerrigan
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Posted - 2010.11.24 03:37:00 -
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I may have dropped a zero, but doesn't this have close to 4 times as much pure HP as the other super Carriers? I was looking on Eve-wiki, and that's what it looked like.
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