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Salmeria
Tovarsky Pharmaceuticals
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Posted - 2010.11.26 08:36:00 -
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I am glad they are removing learning skills and so is anyone that is not trolling.
I trained that **** four years ago and its at the point where I dont even remember doing it. So pretty much I am not losing anything and I get the ability to train something like fighters V FOR FREE. HELL YES CCP!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.26 08:36:00 -
[62]
 Originally by: Yuki Kulotsuki
Wait a tic, what happened to SP totals don't matter, catching up isn't important because you can specialize and all that mumbo jumbo?
It's the people who never understood this that are complaining.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Veaon
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Posted - 2010.11.26 08:41:00 -
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Learning skills are a crusty old relic from when the game was much younger. Their only purpose was to slow down early game progression to prevent people running out of goals too quickly and give CCP time to add more content. If you don't understand why they are totally pointless now and serve only to harm the game then you are a genuine pants on head ******. Please quit eve.
tl;dr Stop baaaaaaawwwwwwww'ing, you pathetic people |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.26 08:41:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 26/11/2010 08:41:23
Out with the old players.....
I think that's the plan anyway though I an not for it, but cannot be against it. It does not matter what I think of it.
The old players are the ones who play in big fleet battles, and the clamor for more, and for fixing lag.
Few of the truly new players have been in large fleets and they know only of the game mechanics that support small fleets - that being the new scanning and the changes to other game mechanics. They don't know a "big fleet battle EvE".
Get rid of the people who want large fleet battles (that occur in 0.0 space and the participants are veterans) and they don't have to fix lag, lag that is caused by the new game mechanics for the new players.
my theory 
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Zantris
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Posted - 2010.11.26 08:46:00 -
[65]
Here is my question...
Why do you care? WTF difference does it make to you.
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.11.26 08:48:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Get rid of the people who want large fleet battles (that occur in 0.0 space and the participants are veterans) and they don't have to fix lag, lag that is caused by the new game mechanics for the new players.
Ironically, the traditional havens of 0.0 bittervets and unsubbers are full of praise for recent CCP actions (lots of long awaited fixes, waiting until expansions are actually ready and now nuking learning skills). It's bizarro world out there.
Originally by: CCP Lemur
THIS IS GOD: ...
IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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Aera Aiana
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.26 09:24:00 -
[67]
Originally by: John Mongrel
Now where's the fairness in that considering I've spent the last 5 or some years playing EVE without this permanent "bonus"?
500 years ago life was a lot harder. People didn't live as long. Now where's the fairness in that?
Originally by: John Mongrel
Even implants are more or less useless now. Having a +5 is really just a waste of money, and I'm feeling sorry for those few players that bought one for 4-500m isk a set. It won't make a difference at all now.
Makes the same difference it always did, unless of course you "vet" didn't get your learnings all the way up as you should have. Oh and why didn't you? Don't hear you moaning about those new attribute points you'll get, given that you apparently didn't max your learnings before...
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.11.26 09:30:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Wandom Wapist
Vet checking in just to call the Op a name. Vagina. Vet checking out.
this..
New Eden needs a Public Feature/Idea/Bug-Tracker |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.11.26 09:30:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Veaon
Their only purpose was to slow down early game progression
slow down
You know, I don't think the removal of learning skills really matters that much. It's the fact that everyone who wanted them removed seems to have some kind of handicap, that made me pro keeping them.
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Lillith Starfire
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Posted - 2010.11.26 09:41:00 -
[70]
Can you hear that? That's the sound of epeens deflating. It's a tragic horrible sound which nobody cares about.
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Michwich
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Posted - 2010.11.26 09:59:00 -
[71]
Progress, the future cannot be sacrificed for the past.
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Klatho Cron
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:03:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Michwich
Progress, the future cannot be sacrificed for the past.
Progress, money cannot be sacrificed for the sake of a better game.
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Nefera Sen
The Boondock Saints
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:09:00 -
[73]
At 57mill sp, you sir, are NOT a vet.
That is all.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:11:00 -
[74]
It took CCP seven years to realise learning skills are demented and fix them? Congrats!
CCP - locking the stable door after the horse has bolted, died of old age and been flogged repeatedly on the forums 
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:15:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Klatho Cron
Originally by: Michwich
Progress, the future cannot be sacrificed for the past.
Progress, money cannot be sacrificed for the sake of a better game.
And that's the neat thing: the game is better and CCP will probably make more money (which may or may not make the game better still).
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Marchocias
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:27:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Marchocias on 26/11/2010 10:28:18
Originally by: John Mongrel
Originally by: Dr Fighter
so your annoyed that newbs dont have to be irritated like you were when you started and had to do your learning skills?
you got alot of growing up to do buddy, you aint no vet in life.
No it's really more about choices.
I made some that made my character slower/faster to some degree, I want all new players to experience this aswell. All those happy about the new changes are really just people who are happy that their skill plans now got a lot easier as they don't have to think about training a higher learning skill to train faster.
Sod off.
I'm a vet and I have a number of chars with maxed learning skills. I think this is a great idea... It removes one of the biggest design mistakes in the game. By complaining about this you have made yourself look simultaneously childish and very thick.
Making sweeping generalisations about other peoples motivations for disagreeing with you also makes you look like an arse.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:29:00 -
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As i said in the original thread, if not beeing at work but at home i would have emo-rage quitted now.
Go for it CCP, there are 397 (?) more skills to wipe out.
Free titan for every noob, go go go!
Introduce microtransactions, so that noob can buy "concord-god-mode heavy neutron blaster III" with plex.
I¦m sad that i told you "well done" for not allowing remapping for plex a few days ago. You did¦nt deserve that.
Presenting this as a X-mas gift in a "meant to be funny" dev blog by Greyscale is a slap in my face.
At weekend when calmed down (prolly) i will deside if this game is still worth to pay Ç 15/month.
And no, you can¦t get my stuff, if quitting Jennifer Darling will get all, as she/he asked most in various threads.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:35:00 -
[78]
Originally by: My Postman
As i said in the original thread, if not beeing at work but at home i would have emo-rage quitted now.
Why do you have to be at home? The account management is right over there ←
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Go for it CCP, there are 397 (?) more skills to wipe out.
Free titan for every noob, go go go!
Introduce microtransactions, so that noob can buy "concord-god-mode heavy neutron blaster III" with plex.
Why on earth would they do any of that? They have been regretting the learning skills since long before I even started playing, and over the years, it has become increasingly clear that they were going to fix that problem sooner or later. Not the player ù CCP said it was a problem (in fact, they were the first ones I heard saying it). Now they have done just that: fixed a very old design flaw. What you're raging about has never been brought up as an issue that needs fixing.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:35:00 -
[79]
Originally by: My Postman
As i said in the original thread, if not beeing at work but at home i would have emo-rage quitted now.
Go for it CCP, there are 397 (?) more skills to wipe out.
Free titan for every noob, go go go!
Introduce microtransactions, so that noob can buy "concord-god-mode heavy neutron blaster III" with plex.
I¦m sad that i told you "well done" for not allowing remapping for plex a few days ago. You did¦nt deserve that.
Presenting this as a X-mas gift in a "meant to be funny" dev blog by Greyscale is a slap in my face.
At weekend when calmed down (prolly) i will deside if this game is still worth to pay Ç 15/month.
And no, you can¦t get my stuff, if quitting Jennifer Darling will get all, as she/he asked most in various threads.
Rage all you want the second you step out of the cyber world Gavrilo Princip you will be arested for your crimes against humanity. You thought I forgot or wasn't watching.
No one escapes Alara IonStorm Worlds Greatest Detective!
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I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Marchocias
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:38:00 -
[80]
Originally by: My Postman
And no, you can¦t get my stuff, if quitting Jennifer Darling will get all, as she/he asked most in various threads.
Her brown nosing finally paid off!
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:42:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: My Postman
As i said in the original thread, if not beeing at work but at home i would have emo-rage quitted now.
Go for it CCP, there are 397 (?) more skills to wipe out.
Free titan for every noob, go go go!
Introduce microtransactions, so that noob can buy "concord-god-mode heavy neutron blaster III" with plex.
I¦m sad that i told you "well done" for not allowing remapping for plex a few days ago. You did¦nt deserve that.
Presenting this as a X-mas gift in a "meant to be funny" dev blog by Greyscale is a slap in my face.
At weekend when calmed down (prolly) i will deside if this game is still worth to pay Ç 15/month.
And no, you can¦t get my stuff, if quitting Jennifer Darling will get all, as she/he asked most in various threads.
Rage all you want the second you step out of the cyber world Gavrilo Princip you will be arested for your crimes against humanity. You thought I forgot or wasn't watching.
No one escapes Alara IonStorm Worlds Greatest Detective!
what about Carmen Sandiego?
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:48:00 -
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@Tippia
As i do respect you as a meaningful forum warrior knowing many of your valid quotes, at this time i can¦t be with you. Arguing with you when english is not your native tongue can be problematic, at least. So i won¦t
@ Alara
Again wow, your memory is serving you well, at least a bit better than mine, i nearly had to google (again) before remembering. But at least you made me smile a bit when having tears from anger in my eyes.
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Dog277
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Posted - 2010.11.26 11:48:00 -
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I for one am glad to rid of the learning skills. Having been in game somewhere between 1 1/2 - 2 years now there are still more choices in this game that effect what u can do, and where to go in the game that, i feel, this decision made by ccp devs will make it better for new players to get a feel for EVE before they get bored and quite. To the players that are complaining about this ccp DID NOT have to let us reallocate those skillpoints we trained they could have just taken them out and said too bad so ur not really losing anything but gaining the time back u spent training them in the first place, on top of the training time u gained training with the learning skills trained up. I have played other MMO's that the devs didn't put half the thought into the changes they made making the game better but instead made changes in the game to get more money out of the ppl that played it. CCP has made a game that they could have total control over but they give us, the players, more control over our gaming experience, we control the market as players we are given the opportunity to control a sector of the game, 0.0 and wormhole space, or play in the safe havens of high sec. My hat goes off to CCP and the devs who strive to make this game what it is. THEY LET US PLAY THIS FOR FREE BY ALLOWING US TO BUY PLEX WITH ISK THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT! They could be like WOW and make u buy everything and pay to play instead EVE is free to download and they give u all the upgrades FREE!! SO STOP THE " WHINING " and yes this is coming from a toon with 31+ mil sp.
TO THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES OF CREATING A GAME OF THIS CALIBER GO PLAY DARK ORBIT OR WOW
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Dog277
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Posted - 2010.11.26 11:51:00 -
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AND YES I DO REALIZE I'M STILL A NOOBIE BY EVE STANDARDS THANK YOU
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.11.26 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Marchocias
Originally by: My Postman
And no, you can¦t get my stuff, if quitting Jennifer Darling will get all, as she/he asked most in various threads.
Her brown nosing finally paid off!
Well, it¦s not over yet, as i said i will deside over the weekend.
It¦s all about this plex for remap (which is obviously cancelled yet), microtransactions introducing (or not) and removal of learning skills, which makes me feel that eve is changing in a way i don¦t like.
As everybody else i have a drawn line, and when crossed it¦s time to take action.
@ Dog
It¦s good to hear that you thank CCP for letting you play the game for free. Take out your main and your army of alts and mine/mission away for plex for endless hours.
Unfortunatly i have a life with work and GF included, and both are holding me back for doing as you do. Unfortunatly my credit card must solve this problem.
And as i¦m paying for this service/product it¦s up to me to know if i still need it.
Fake edit: Dark Orbit is on my "lookout list" anyway.
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.26 13:23:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 26/11/2010 13:25:04
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 26/11/2010 13:24:36
Originally by: My Postman
And no, you can¦t get my stuff, if quitting Jennifer Darling will get all, as she/he asked most in various threads.
who's Jennifer Darling? 
Don't contract it to the wrong person! :o
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Klatho Cron
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Posted - 2010.11.26 13:35:00 -
[87]
Hey postman, youre so right man.
And dont donate your stuff to little jenn. Shes the person who would deserve it last.
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2010.11.26 13:43:00 -
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OP,
Why are your learnings only at 4/4? If you had trained them early and are of the age and SP you claim they should be 5/4.
What hax did you use to avoid the advanced learnings pre-req of basic learning to 5?
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JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir. Academy
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.11.26 13:47:00 -
[89]
Edited by: JC Anderson on 26/11/2010 13:52:12
Originally by: Lauren Hellfury
OP,
Why are your learnings only at 4/4? If you had trained them early and are of the age and SP you claim they should be 5/4.
What hax did you use to avoid the advanced learnings pre-req of basic learning to 5?
Pre-Req is 4 not 5.
Focus
Though if it makes you feel any better, I also could have sworn it was 5 years back when I trained them. So my memory is really bad OR CCP changed the pre-req since that time.
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2010.11.26 13:50:00 -
[90]
Originally by: JC Anderson
Originally by: Lauren Hellfury
OP,
Why are your learnings only at 4/4? If you had trained them early and are of the age and SP you claim they should be 5/4.
What hax did you use to avoid the advanced learnings pre-req of basic learning to 5?
Pre-Req is 4 not 5.
Though if it makes you feel any better, I also could have sworn it was 5 years back when I trained them. So my memory is really bad OR CCP changed the pre-req since that time.
Correct, years back (2) the pre-req was 5. CCP changed it down to 4 as they have done with some other pre-reqs for some other skills.
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