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Sarik Olecar Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 112	Posted - 2012.08.10 11:54:00 - [91] - Quote ITT: People who like MMO's talk about how they don't like things that aren't MMO's... I mean seriously guys, if you thought FPS's were a blast would you be playing EVE?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 8970	Posted - 2012.08.10 11:56:00 - [92] - Quote Sarik Olecar wrote: I mean seriously guys, if you thought FPS's were a blast would you be playing EVE? Apparently. Shocking isn't it? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
Vilnius Zar Ordo Ardish 111	Posted - 2012.08.10 12:12:00 - [93] - Quote Marconus Orion wrote: I have ton of console friends foaming at the mouth to play DUST. Your entire post is, well... bullshit. It's new, they haven't played it yet, it looks shiny and it's free. OFCOURSE they'll be interested... till they get distracted by some lint in their pocket and move off to another new shooter. Amat victoria curam.
Revajin 15 Minute Outliers Novus Dominatum 42	Posted - 2012.08.10 12:22:00 - [94] - Quote Denidil wrote: So CCP, you've used our subscription money to siphon away to create dust. Stopped reading right there lol. Once you give money away its no longer yours. A used PS3 is pretty cheap bro.

ISD TYPE40 ISD Community Communications Liaisons 86	Posted - 2012.08.10 12:33:00 - [95] - Quote Thread has been cleaned of trolling, personal attacks and flaming. Please post responsibly in future - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Rats Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 128	Posted - 2012.08.10 12:38:00 - [96] - Quote Marconus Orion wrote: I have ton of console friends foaming at the mouth to play DUST. Your entire post is, well... bullshit. Not for PC users. Tal -áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á
Sexy Cakes Poasting 50	Posted - 2012.08.10 12:43:00 - [97] - Quote I bought a PS3 just to play DUST. I'm a masochist. Not today spaghetti.
Sabrina Solette Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2012.08.10 12:48:00 - [98] - Quote Sarik Olecar wrote: I mean seriously guys, if you thought FPS's were a blast would you be playing EVE? Yes, plenty of people play more than 1 style of game. Would serious FPS players consider playing an FPS attached to an MMO? Who knows, but I bet the people that play more than 1 style may consider it.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 4457	Posted - 2012.08.10 12:50:00 - [99] - Quote Shamubar wrote: dust is something i have no intentions to play or get involved with at the moment even though i have a ps3 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-13-an-entire-top-end-dust-514-load-out-costs-around-USD0-24-in-real-money pretty much paying for each life and with how quick deaths can rack up in a FPS we can all see where this is going The Carrier I'm logged out in is worth about 1 bill, plus another half a bill in fittings, plus another 2.5 bill in ships in the bay That's about $50 worth of PLEX. Your point? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Lord Ryan Quantum Cats Syndicate 556	Posted - 2012.08.10 12:57:00 - [100] - Quote I have a PS3. Have had a PS3 since they first came out. I still play my PS2 some times. But! I have never played a game that cost me more than the original $59.99. Hell I have never even logged onto PSN. I play PS3 when I need a break from the internet asshats. I know those COD types play on the net and are probably your target audience, but how many of them are going to pay for ammo? How many of them even have a debit card or whatever? People keep saying DUST is F2P. Does that mean it's not going to cost $59.99 like every other console game? If it does than it's not F2P. Is DUST going to have a single player offline mode? If so you get $60 from me. If not you can put me down for $0 -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes.
black cree Utopian Research I.E.L. 35	Posted - 2012.08.10 12:58:00 - [101] - Quote What if eve is ported to ps4 ?
Lord Ryan Quantum Cats Syndicate 556	Posted - 2012.08.10 13:10:00 - [102] - Quote NeoShocker wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: I hope Dust does well, and plan to play myself. However, I think PS3 only was a bad call too...it also should have been on the Xbox...lol...all my console FPS friends are on Xbox...I'll miss them :( It was planned for both consoles, but microsoft happened. So it wasnt ccp's call. Even valve have something against microsoft because valve wants to put free stuff and updates, but ms says no, must charge. CCP should stop microsoft support! Everyone should stop microsoft support! -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes.
Lord Ryan Quantum Cats Syndicate 556	Posted - 2012.08.10 13:21:00 - [103] - Quote Jorma Morkkis wrote: King Rothgar wrote: The wisdom of targeting the console market, and specifically PS3 is dubious at best. Additionally, the PS3 is over 6 years old now. People who don't have one aren't going to go get one. Those things are antiques with their 256mb of RAM and 3.2 GHZ single core processor. Not a single core processor. 8 SPEs and one PPE. Just shows how much some "PC gamers" know about consoles... I don't know what any of that means. I do know I like playing games on my PS3 when I'm not playing Eve on my Mac. -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 8972	Posted - 2012.08.10 13:21:00 - [104] - Quote Lord Ryan wrote: People keep saying DUST is F2P. Does that mean it's not going to cost $59.99 like every other console game? If it does than it's not F2P. They've been wavering a bit on that point. In some instances, they've said that it would just be free to download and start playing, in others, that it would be a $10 administration fee to set up the account but you'd get $10 worth of AUR as part of it. Quote: Is DUST going to have a single player offline mode? If so you get $60 from me. If not you can put me down for $0 No. I might get an online single(ish)-player mode, thoughGÇª or at least there was some talk about PvE vs. rogue drones, but that might be squad-based as well for all we know. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
Wilhelm Riley Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 85	Posted - 2012.08.10 13:27:00 - [105] - Quote Abel Merkabah wrote: I hope Dust does well, and plan to play myself. However, I think PS3 only was a bad call too...it also should have been on the Xbox...lol...all my console FPS friends are on Xbox...I'll miss them :( Xbox just wasn't an option apparently, Microsoft are too strict for it to have worked.
Terrorfrodo Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency 145	Posted - 2012.08.10 13:32:00 - [106] - Quote I've never owned a console, I hate them. But I'd like to try DUST. I wouldn't even completely rule out that I would buy a used PS3 if I knew I want to play it long-term (partly because a PS3 is also a bluray player and I don't have one currently). The thing that holds me back is that while I occasionally play old FPS's (UT 3) in single-player mode as a diversion, I'm not very good at it and would probably totally suck when playing against real enemies. And unlike EVE a FPS cannot be learned and mastered by virtue of intelligence, you either suck or you don't The Invulnerability Sphere:Make mining/industrial vessels defendable, better fights for everyone!
Virgil Travis Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated 566	Posted - 2012.08.10 13:48:00 - [107] - Quote Shamubar wrote: Virgil Travis wrote: CCP have said they are launching DUST on PS3. I bolded & underlined the important word there. if you mean it may be out for something else then you are wrong they have stated countless times that it will be a PS3 Exclusive http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-07-dust-514-confirmed-ps3-exclusive That's fair enough, but they could have a rethink. Edit: That went a bit pear shaped, quoting fail. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective 2192	Posted - 2012.08.10 13:51:00 - [108] - Quote The lack of PC support was disappointing. I'd have loved to hop into Dust on slow Eve nights. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711
El Cid Campeador Exploding Squirrels 52	Posted - 2012.08.10 14:04:00 - [109] - Quote Id love to play the game, to at least test it out. But unfortunately its PS3 exclusive and by no means am I buying a PS3 just for 1 game., which means Planetside 2 will get my time for my FPS for the next couple years... At least CCP will still get my eve sub? :)
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4288	Posted - 2012.08.10 14:05:00 - [110] - Quote Lord Ryan wrote: CCP should stop microsoft support! Everyone should stop microsoft support! I somehow doubt that CCP is going to deploy Linux across their entire cluster, have all of their programmers spend months rewriting code for a new DBMS, spend even more time testing, force their customers (i.e. us) to endure months of TQ being unreliable (not because of Linux, mind you, but because the scale of the switch means that mistakes /will/ be made) all for the sake of making a petty gesture at Microsoft over DUST. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012
Denidil Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 446	Posted - 2012.08.10 15:42:00 - [111] - Quote As stated in the edit - i dropped this post then real life pulled me from the forums. For the record I hope i am wrong and that Dust bucks the observed player retention trend. I don't hate Dust players - i don't think anyone does. So go to the dust forums and tell them that is a silly assumption. I want Dust to succeed, if it has any lasting power I will bite the bullet and buy a ******* PS3 [i have the money.. it's not an issue] PS: to those of you assuming I am speaking for a position of ignorance and are like "CCP KNOWS BETTER THAN YOU!!" perhaps you should no make assumptions about people. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains.
Denidil Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 446	Posted - 2012.08.10 15:52:00 - [112] - Quote Marconus Orion wrote: The fact is there are people out there (including the OP and a few in this thread) that would rather see DUST available on PC only yes.. because that is exactly what i said.. i totally said it should have been PC only. entirely. don't put words into my mouth you infernal jackass. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains.
Denidil Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 446	Posted - 2012.08.10 16:13:00 - [113] - Quote Herr Hammer Draken wrote: Oh for crying out loud. You guys are complete dolts. Of course CCP is interested in porting dust for a PC. But if they have a contract with Sony which I am sure they do then that contract spells out what they can and can not do.. I am aware of that potentially ill advised contract Forum Harlot wrote: Get a PS3 and quit this never-ending, relentless whine. Can't afford a PS3? Get a job. I love people who probably make in a month what I make in a week assume that because I post something that means I don't like something and cannot afford it. I do have an issue with the security problems inherent in PSN. Yaaar Smackdaddy wrote: You speak like an investor. You are not an investor you are a customer. There is a big difference. I speak like a stakeholder.. slightly different from an investor. All EvE Players are stakeholders because of the interconnection between the games and the potential for negative blowback should Dust fail. Jake Warbird wrote: So,DUST is dying too? DAMMNIT! netcraft confirms, EVERYTHING IS DYING Shamubar wrote: what happens with the ps3 becomes outdated replaced? This argument isn't really a concern well considering PS3 could play PS2 games.. Xbox 360 could play xbox games... next gen will probable follow suit. then they can also just tweek the client and launch a native one for the 8th generation with better graphics. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains.
Khergit Deserters Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2012.08.10 16:14:00 - [114] - Quote Whut the...? 15 bucks a month makes somebody think they have an opinion on how a company runs its business? Gawd, I feel sorry for CCP forum mods, having to read stuff like this and keep their mouths shut.
Lateris Posiden Industrial 10	Posted - 2012.08.10 16:26:00 - [115] - Quote As a member of the Eve community I want to see Dust 514 on the PC as well as on the console. I have worked with the UT III UDK development tools and its all there in the tools. CCP hasn't ruled it out based on past statements, just search for it. And I personally think D514 will make it to the PC. My concern is that the features such as corporations may not exist on release for D514. Plus, how flexible will console players be waiting for new features? And in all honesty I am more concerned with CCP going IPO. This global economy is very hostile. I don't want Eve Online to have to answer to shareholders who don't subscribe to the game, don't play the game, and don't know jack about the gaming industry. Look at what happened to SWTOR end game... On the flip side where is all the PI promised that would interact with D514?
Jame Jarl Retief Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy 228	Posted - 2012.08.10 16:32:00 - [116] - Quote Baby ChuChu wrote: ....because another post about why/how 514 can fail will solve everything? Right? Listen, I get that people are worried that 514 might have a negative effect on CCP. I get that people want it on PC. I get that people don't like 'console kiddies' because it makes them feel better. i get it all. Fact of the matter is all this negativity and naysaying isn't helping anything...at all. It's not like CCP is going to magically whip up a PC version in the span of a few days and be like, "hey you guys, you were right." They're apparently betting heavily on the PS3 and they're too deep to just quit right now. I'm sorry to say, but the only thing you can do right now is deal with it. Deal with it and help make the Eve & Dust community a better place for everyone. If the game fails, then the game fails. Sucks, but so be it. But standing over the corpse and yelling "I told you so" is infinitely more useless than any failure that could possibly occur. I applaud the general sentiment. But it's just really hard to comply because it's just so painful to watch. It's like seeing someone inside a shopping cart getting ready to take a ride off a roof. You get an almost overwhelming urge to yell "Stop! WTH are you thinking?!" Especially if you care in the least about the person that's about to do it.
Jagoff Haverford The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort Get Off My Lawn 34	Posted - 2012.08.10 16:32:00 - [117] - Quote Marconus Orion wrote: I have ton of... friends foaming at the mouth... Then it may already be too late. Rabies is all but universally fatal once it reaches that stage.
Josef Djugashvilis The Scope Gallente Federation 398	Posted - 2012.08.10 16:38:00 - [118] - Quote Marconus Orion wrote: I have ton of console friends foaming at the mouth to play DUST. Your entire post is, well... bullshit. How many friends are there in a ton? You want fries with that?
Denidil Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 447	Posted - 2012.08.10 16:41:00 - [119] - Quote thread title was more negative than I really intended.. changed. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains.
Denidil Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 447	Posted - 2012.08.10 16:42:00 - [120] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Marconus Orion wrote: I have ton of console friends foaming at the mouth to play DUST. Your entire post is, well... bullshit. How many friends are there in a ton? depends on if his friends are 500lb basement dwellers or svelte mountaineers.. but i'd say anywhere from 4 to 10. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains.

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