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Baneken Gallente School of the Unseen	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:13:00 - [31] Hey, is this the awesome saucesome whine thread ? http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:34:00 - [32] Originally by: Baneken Hey, is this the awesome saucesome whine thread ? That is a pretty awesome whine, but i doubt it'll catch on. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Shootmenot dammit	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:48:00 - [33] Without killmails I would not play this game. It's always been said that PvP and its harsh consecuences were one of the main strong points of EvE. Losing your ships and your stuff is not important. Practically anything is replaceable in this game. But killmails provide the ultimate punishment: a constant, permanent testimony of one's defeat or victory.
RaTTuS BIG Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:49:00 - [34] there where killboards before the API -- Join BIG
Piercing Silence	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:50:00 - [35] You could have incident reports or something similar which was touched on earlier in this thread.
Portmanteau Fumar Puede Matar	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:51:00 - [36] Originally by: 1ee7W4rr10z the only thing i can think of is killboards should remove ALL stats. snip... just the kills er that would make blobbing and lame tactics even worse since NUMBER OF KILLS would be the only relevant figure at least now you can tell someone to STFU when they smack you about a KM with 20 / 1 odds on it. No just get rid of them
Artemis Rose Clandestine Vector	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:51:00 - [37] Without killmails, how can you brag about fighting outnumbered and outgunned? Might as well drop 10 things on everything scrap that floats in space, you won't be judged *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Piercing Silence	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:53:00 - [38] Yes they just need to go somehow
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2010.12.24 09:13:00 - [39] 5/10 - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
NickyYo	Posted - 2010.12.24 09:15:00 - [40] Great Troll post... some morons are actually faling for it.
Muad 'dib Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2010.12.24 09:32:00 - [41] i miss the actual kill mail from concord (from which KM got its name) It was nice getting a report from the police that you killed somones ship :¼D Evidence of you killing somone is vital in eve, cos 90% of the players are evil lieing spying RR-ing ECM using nano abusing basterds. Meep Meep!
Geanos Phoenix Tribe	Posted - 2010.12.24 10:04:00 - [42] Too bad OP is a troll. It would suffice to remove victim's name/corp/alliance from the KM to make most people more inclined to take risks and PVP more. You need the KM's for bragging, just remove the negative part from it.
Cupio Mortem	Posted - 2010.12.24 10:10:00 - [43] Originally by: Geanos Too bad OP is a troll. Why do people post ** like this when discussion is taking place regardless of that fact? You don't win points, especially when it's already been pointed out just a few posts back. F@660try, folks, breeds more f@660try, kind of like typing like that is in itself gotry and why I didn't threepeat it just now...please, do your part today and pod this asshat. Then just go ahead and get me too, then each other, because we've all been infected. Thanks, ***.
Geanos Phoenix Tribe	Posted - 2010.12.24 10:28:00 - [44] Originally by: Cupio Mortem Originally by: Geanos Too bad OP is a troll. Why do people post ** like this when discussion is taking place regardless of that fact? You don't win points, especially when it's already been pointed out just a few posts back. F@660try, folks, breeds more f@660try, kind of like typing like that is in itself gotry and why I didn't threepeat it just now...please, do your part today and pod this asshat. Then just go ahead and get me too, then each other, because we've all been infected. Thanks, ***. You got me!
ZenSun Total Mayhem. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2010.12.24 10:30:00 - [45] Badideabro
Snowmann	Posted - 2010.12.24 10:35:00 - [46] Edited by: Snowmann on 24/12/2010 10:35:38 Killmails must be removed to help fight lag. Just think of how much less lag there would be without them. Even if it's just a bit. I now suspect this may be done as a hotpatch the first Tuesday after New Years, Soon(tm).
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2010.12.24 11:03:00 - [47] Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 24/12/2010 11:03:43 Well someone should make a proposal in the Assembly Hall. The question is what we want: 1) remove the killmails alltogether 2) just remove them from the api so people can't prove what's on their killboard; 3) just remove lossmails so you only have a number of kills, not losses, on your killboard - so people have no idea how much ships you lost; 4) ... anyone? Personally I'd opt for option 3). I do agree with the OP that we must get rid of the silly KB farmers. I know there's a lot of you who couldn't care less but too much descisions are made with the (potential loss of) KB stats in mind. Too much people don't engage challenging fights because it will hurt their KB stats. It hurts the fun in PvP.
Vapid Court	Posted - 2010.12.24 11:09:00 - [48] Edited by: Vapid Court on 24/12/2010 11:09:56 Originally by: Jennifer Starling Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 24/12/2010 11:03:43 Well someone should make a proposal in the Assembly Hall. The question is what we want: 1) remove the killmails alltogether 2) just remove them from the api so people can't prove what's on their killboard; 3) just remove lossmails so you only have a number of kills, not losses, on your killboard - so people have no idea how much ships you lost; 4) ... anyone? Personally I'd opt for option 3). I do agree with the OP that we must get rid of the silly KB farmers. I know there's a lot of you who couldn't care less but too much descisions are made with the (potential loss of) KB stats in mind. Too much people don't engage challenging fights because it will hurt their KB stats. It hurts the fun in PvP. applauds This would also increase the chances of someone going out one night or one day and 1v2 ing or if only just 1v1 ing in their best ships instead of always going with the cheapest one they can geet away withhave the potential to not go there way. Let's face it. KBs are not a part of space and km's wouldn't exist. I don't think they should in EVE there is no good reason they should only very strong reasons why they shouldn't and why they are bad.
Siouxsie B	Posted - 2010.12.24 11:16:00 - [49] CCP REMOVE KILL MAILS
heheheh Phoenix Club	Posted - 2010.12.24 11:31:00 - [50] I say keep the killboards, i never use them much myself, but some sad acts really do need some way of getting off.
Mr Dilkington	Posted - 2010.12.24 11:51:00 - [51] Originally by: heheheh I say keep the killboards, i never use them much myself, but some sad acts really do need some way of getting off. I wouldnt use them either if i lost as many ships as you.
heheheh Phoenix Club	Posted - 2010.12.24 11:59:00 - [52] Originally by: Mr Dilkington Originally by: heheheh I say keep the killboards, i never use them much myself, but some sad acts really do need some way of getting off. I wouldnt use them either if i lost as many ships as you. changes POS password
1600 RT	Posted - 2010.12.24 12:32:00 - [53] 100% agree remove kilmails
Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.12.24 12:56:00 - [54] Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 24/12/2010 12:57:30 Sure, I'll bite Originally by: Fvr Pvpr Than a fat kid playing soccer. You just ruin every game your in especially eve. I'm in a pvp corp. We get tons of kills you think that would be fun right NO its NOT because everyone is obsessed with their KB and their stats. The ISK the DAMAGE the K:L ration blahblahblah jesus christ. Everything is about this. Nope, it's not. If you happen to like the solo or small gang PvP (yep... a NC member who likes this... go figure ), you'll see that killboards are useful for analysing fleet setups and past battles. As basketball coaches spend hours looking at the statistics and previous games to see the strengths and weaknesses of their own and the opposite team, you can look at the killboard and battle statistics in EVE to see what ship(s) and when you can engage and what tactics should you use. The only problem with killmails is that they are not accurate enough.
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.12.24 13:01:00 - [55] [orange]one time i got a killmail lol it said a ship blew up but if not for killmail why would a ship blow up? lol you people dont think! i think killmails are fine because otherwise how will i inflate my pride lol [/size=5]
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.12.24 13:08:00 - [56] Originally by: Cupio Mortem Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Cupio Mortem my reward usually comes in the form of cackling laughter followed by trying to rouse up some tears-filled-evemails from the loser. I'm not sadistic, so that stuff doesn't amuse or satisfy me. Laughter doesn't amuse you? Aren't we awesome. You ain't too bright. Re-read his post again and see if you can figure it out this time. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.24 13:12:00 - [57] Edited by: Hooch Flux on 24/12/2010 13:12:33 Nah, don't get rid of Killmails! Just change them so only the person who does the most damage shows... The problem isn't really KM's, it's the attitude of the players. KM's are just information at the end of the day, it's what people do with it that is the issue... I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Jenn aSide	Posted - 2010.12.24 13:13:00 - [58] I'm willing to bet that most of the "remove killboards" people are the ones who lost multi-billion isk ships to gankers while they were missioning lol. Yes ccp, remove killmails, but don't stop there, buy up all the professional sports teams and eliminate score boards too!. Hell, eliminate scoring all together, someone might get embarrased if they actually lose to other people, omg the humanitiy, think of the children. In my 4 years of playing what is touted as a pvp centric game, I've never understood why EVE doesn't have 1 central ccp operated totally neutral killboard that people can't dispute. Oh and the peoiple who want names removed from killmails should go play wow.
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.12.24 13:18:00 - [59] Edited by: Space Pinata on 24/12/2010 13:19:00 Originally by: Jenn aSide I'm willing to bet that most of the "remove killboards" people are the ones who lost multi-billion isk ships to gankers while they were missioning lol. Yes ccp, remove killmails, but don't stop there, buy up all the professional sports teams and eliminate score boards too!. Hell, eliminate scoring all together, someone might get embarrased if they actually lose to other people, omg the humanitiy, think of the children. In my 4 years of playing what is touted as a pvp centric game, I've never understood why EVE doesn't have 1 central ccp operated totally neutral killboard that people can't dispute. Oh and the peoiple who want names removed from killmails should go play wow. Ah, one of you. Protip: Insulting people all day won't change how they are. Whether or not you think people should be OK with lossmails doesn't change the fact that a lot of them aren't, and that a lot of them aren't PVPing because of it. The question, then, is.. Do you want the game to be more fun, with more PVP? Or do you want to spite people you disagree with? The difference between EVE and other the other games is that killmails('score') don't determine who wins. Kinda like all the alliances that touted their K:D ratio against the old goonblob... and still lost their space to it, at the end of the day. At least they felt good about their 'score' though.
Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.12.24 13:21:00 - [60] Originally by: Space Pinata Whether or not you think people should be OK with lossmails doesn't change the fact that a lot of them aren't, and that a lot of them aren't PVPing because of it. Ahhh... finally... so the actual problem are LOSSMAILS not KILLMAILS

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