Hey, you are the one making brainless assertions like "suicide gankers get angry" when they lose..... a disposable ship that was intended to die anyway.

And the rest of it doesn't make sense either. I measure success in terms of ISK destroyed and # of carebears I cause to quit the game.

Behind Door 1:
Roam low-sec, waste hours and maybe blow up a Rupture worth 10M that is guaranteed to be Platinum insured. Collect no tears, because the victim doesn't really care if they die - because in low-sec people expect to die and risk nothing.

Behind Door 2:
Or, blow up 300M ISK uninsurable Hulks, inflict significant pain while earning ISK from salvage and extortion fees.

Gee, Monty, I think I'll go with Door 2.

It doesnt make sense to blow up an orca full of suicide ganker ships and a noctis? lol. OKAY. btw, hulks dont cost that much and are insurable. Judging by the nonsense comming from you, I can assume you are a troll, and a bad one at that. Seems like all you do is salvage other ppl wrecks, lol. Thanks for making me feel better about my brain, kid. Glad I'm not nearly as pathetic.

This is a bad idea. What about mining ops where you have miners out of your corp or alliance. You need to empty jetcans just to get the ore, picking up with an Orca or a hauler. You get flagged that way, but no one shoots you because you are a friendly. After these changes anyone would be able to shoot your orca or hauler. This would end out of corp mining ops.

Are you really crying about aggressors having to take some risks? LOL.

Clearly, you do not have the capacity to think rationally and are in no position to call others "idiots".

It is really amazing how so many disgruntled losers feel the need to take their anger out on miners instead of targets that will fight back. Cowards and scrubs trying to take revenge on the world. Glad I don't feel the need to stoop so low. Normal people would prefer a challenge than to shoot fish in a barrel. I'm glad CCP is taking away your riskless, easymode "pvp".

I'm really glad that miner ganking is possible, but to dedicate very much time into annoying random people on the internet, instead of those who actually deserve to get **** on and clearly would rage more, is indicative of a sore loser trying to share his pain. Surely these miner gankers and can flippers would rage at least 10x harder than any miner they kill. Personally I prefer to blow up can flippers and would be suicide gankers because I know they are already in emotional pain and actually deserve it.

when you blow up a miner, they really probably don't think much of it, that they are overdue, and can recover losses quickly with minimal effort. When you blow up some angst-filled loser who dedicates all his time to being a douchebag to random people, you know they are probably jumping up and down, screaming at their monitor and pulling their hair out. You know who you are.

Can't wait for this, should be fun to see all the orcas that get pop'd due to this. Hopefully I'll catch a couple.

Can't wait for this, should be fun to see all the orcas that get pop'd due to this. Hopefully I'll catch a couple.

you might be waiting a long time. Nobody would do what you say if you get flagged to everyone. Not surprised at all at the brainless comments made by miner gankers. They pick on the defenseless because they themselves are stupid and awful at any pvp that takes actual skill.

I cant thank CCP enough for finally making this game attractive to real pvpers, instead of being the mindless joke it has been.

^___^

Highsec PvP will never be better after CCP's gone and worked on it :)

(Because maybe it gets worse, har har)

its just unfortunate that most can flippers are cowards and probably wont be flipping many cans after this change. Still, I look foward to extracting many tears from the losers of EVE who are dumb enough to flip a can when I'm in system.

Plain and simple Concord is declaring that can flipping is a now more punishable offence. Sucks but it makes sense in game concord controls the rules =P

its just unfortunate that most can flippers are cowards and probably wont be flipping many cans after this change. Still, I look foward to extracting many tears from the losers of EVE who are dumb enough to flip a can when I'm in system.

As has been said all CCP is doing now is catering hand over firs tto the pve crowd. They want people to start talking about eve being "nice" an friendly an no risk... As the guy from Razor stated "complacency, stupidity will be even more widespread now. No matter how many times you tell them how to avoid trouble, it all comes down to them not wanting to take any responsibility. They have harrased CCP into playing for them.

Without over dramatizing things to much, it's a sad day for EVE to see it going down this path....

"its just unfortunate that most can flippers are cowards and probably wont be flipping many cans after this change. Still, I look foward to extracting many tears from the losers of EVE who are dumb enough to flip a can when I'm in system."

LOL there is no such thing as cowards in a computer game. I get you want to sound like your hard etc etc, but it comes off as...well, anyway.
Fact is, CCP seem to have declared that our playstyle is now no longer valid.
Mission runners will be next to get protection.

Can flipping (not something I bother with)
ganking (my main gameplay style)

Seem to be on the outs.

why not try PvP instead, it takes some skill i know, but.. give it a whirl you might even enjoy it. but i doubt you have the balls tbh.

Why are you using a posting alt?

Why are you using a posting alt?

Because im a miner of course...

I do agree however that if your in a fleet with someone and you get can flipped, you should be flagged to everyone in that fleet. To me, a fleet is a temporary alliance that should be treated as "we are temporarily in the same corp" so that if I get war deced and fleet up with people, we are now all at war. This to me is in the spirit of the game and a missing component of the flagging mechanic.

The problem with that is that fleets are fluid. People can join, leave, DC and come back etc etc and that would create a nightmare for the flagging system and it would be SUCH a mess it just won't work. There really is no problem in keeping it corp only, if people choose to not be in the same corp then they choose to have less options, it really is that simple. I would agree to an alliance wide flagging, simply because "it makes sense".

As has been said all CCP is doing now is catering hand over firs tto the pve crowd. They want people to start talking about eve being "nice" an friendly an no risk... As the guy from Razor stated "complacency, stupidity will be even more widespread now. No matter how many times you tell them how to avoid trouble, it all comes down to them not wanting to take any responsibility. They have harrased CCP into playing for them.

Without over dramatizing things to much, it's a sad day for EVE to see it going down this path....

"its just unfortunate that most can flippers are cowards and probably wont be flipping many cans after this change. Still, I look foward to extracting many tears from the losers of EVE who are dumb enough to flip a can when I'm in system."

LOL there is no such thing as cowards in a computer game. I get you want to sound like your hard etc etc, but it comes off as...well, anyway.
Fact is, CCP seem to have declared that our playstyle is now no longer valid.
Mission runners will be next to get protection.

Can flipping (not something I bother with)
ganking (my main gameplay style)

Seem to be on the outs.

You must be confused. CONCORD is a fictional entity.

why not try PvP instead, it takes some skill i know, but.. give it a whirl you might even enjoy it. but i doubt you have the balls tbh.