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Sky Orcagna
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sky Orcagna on 06/01/2011 22:34:49 What if all of EVE was 0.0 space? At first, this might sound like a terrible idea and a recipe for nonstop griefing and rampant chaos. But not so fast. A truly open EVE would have certain advantages for almost everyone, even for carebears and more casual gamers.
Potential Pros: 1. No chokepoints camped 24/7 between areas of different security. One route might be more dangerous than another on any given day, but it also means there would be more viable possible routs. 2. Pirates and gankers would be far more spread out and not camped in predictable spots, effectively removing one of EVE's most complained about aspects. With no natural chokepoints between empire/low-sec/null-sec, pirates would have to move around and be more tactical in their thinking. More fun for both pirates and prey. 3. No limitations on weapons or ships. You would be able to take anything anywhere, and use it! This means that there truly would be no safe place in EVE, which is good. But it also means you would be free to fight back with anything in the EVE arsenal, which is also good. 4. More space for players to control; less space controlled by artificial entities. 5. Possibly more opportunities for smaller alliances. Possibly.
Potential Cons: 1. Would be less forgiving for new players. With this in mind, it might be necessary to have new players start out in a special tutorial region which becomes inaccessible after the first 30 days. 2. Large market hubs would be natural targets for pirates and roving gangs, likely resulting in the destruction of existing market hubs like Jita. One possible counter to this would be to to give alliances a vested interest in nurturing and protecting an open market (for instance, an alliance might be able to establish a global sales tax for all market transactions that occur in a specific station). This would give alliances a strong incentive to establish and protect safe zones for open trading. Pirates would have juicy targets to fight for and alliances would have a vested interest in policing the area.
It's never going to happen, but it is interesting to think about. I like it from a PvP perspective, but I also like it from a carebear perspective.
Commence the snarky replies and mindless trolling.
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Drakarin
Gallente Absentia Libertas Solus
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:31:00 -
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It would be absolute chaos at first, but things would quiet down pretty quickly.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:32:00 -
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If I'm not mistaken, EVE used to be like that in the beginnings. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:33:00 -
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COAD would be the new GD?
------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited! |
mooimafish
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:43:00 -
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... the big alliances would just take over every system and then exploit the rest of us as renters, hell the **** no. |
Hurtado JaSett
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Orcagna Large market hubs would be natural targets for pirates and roving gangs, likely resulting in the destruction of existing market hubs like Jita. One possible counter to this would be to to give alliances a vested interest in nurturing and protecting an open market (for instance, an alliance might be able to establish a global sales tax for all market transactions that occur in a specific station). This would give alliances a strong incentive to establish and protect safe zones for open trading. Pirates would have juicy targets to fight for and alliances would have a vested interest in policing the area.
Now that sounds like fun! Count me in.
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Bud Johnson
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:45:00 -
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until m0o reforms and gate to gate travel becomes "interesting" again.
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Jaina Sunspot
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:45:00 -
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The Blob...
IT`S OVER 9000!!!
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Shintai on 06/01/2011 22:53:58 EvE would consist of 10000 subscribers, no expansions would be made, no server upgrades made. Simply due to no money.
Also most trade would be dead, and you would be back mining for a cruiser for a month after you lost one. Even frigate battles would be costly.
We already tried something like this. It was the first time in EvE where you could tank Concord etc. --------------------------------------
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: mooimafish ... the big alliances would just take over every system and then exploit the rest of us as renters, hell the **** no.
This
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed.
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Spectre Wraith
Darwin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.06 23:03:00 -
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Focus on producing/marketing cloaks, recons, covert ops, etc.
$$$$$
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Cozmik R5
Minmatar Mobile Alcohol Processing Units Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2011.01.06 23:25:00 -
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I know it'll never happen, but it would be awesome if CONCORD went on strike for a few days ____________________
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
Pyro Ninja
Gallente S3MINAL FLUID Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.01.06 23:30:00 -
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This has happened before, Jita was the only secure system in eve for like 2 days. Also people were bumped up to 450mill sp for those 2 days. It was on the test server and it took forever to log in but there were a lot of titans flying around that day lol
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Kwisat Haderach
Minmatar ReallyPissedOff Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2011.01.06 23:42:00 -
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If Eve would have been like that from the beginning, I very much doubt it would have had the success it has now. If all Eve would be changed into all 0.0 (99.99% unlikely), we'll probably witness the mother of all threadnaughts ever.
Life is a joke, but I don't feel like laughing |
Ephemeron
The Dirty Dozen
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Posted - 2011.01.06 23:44:00 -
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This is how EVE should end when CCP finally decides to pull the plug on it
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Jekyl Eraser
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Posted - 2011.01.06 23:51:00 -
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Would make interesting game for current players but impossible for newcomers. With some changes... but it will never happen.
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Cozmik R5
Minmatar Mobile Alcohol Processing Units Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2011.01.06 23:59:00 -
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Yeah I remember Super Cap Testing Day.... crapton of lag that was
But on TQ.... just a small strike.... plz !!! ____________________
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
Anubis Xian
Word Bearers of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.07 00:43:00 -
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I think all empire should be low sec. What I mean is no npc police of any kind. Sentry guns could be tweaked to help with the sudden lack of security.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Jaina Sunspot
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.07 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian I think all empire should be low sec. What I mean is no npc police of any kind. Sentry guns could be tweaked to help with the sudden lack of security.
Make them so powerful that they **** even Carriers on Gates and Stations, no more camping.
Add in a few NPC Condord and Navy Patrols that wander around and respond to agression with in a few AU. Eliminate High Sec and Low Sec. Leave 0.o as is...
It would be interesting to say the least.
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2011.01.07 01:43:00 -
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Results
1. Total chaos for next 30 days as people adjusted and as many waited for their subscriptions to end.
2. On mass, carebears and casual players would quit eve.
3. Everyone left would have to form or submit to an alliance entity to provide defense, industry and logistics. Small corporations would only continue to exist if pirate NPC space continued to exist allowing docking.
4. Prices of everything would x10 for next year making PvP for most people highly unplesent, encouraging blobbing further.
Basically this would kill eve.
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Headerman
Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.01.07 02:15:00 -
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I imagine it would be fun for TEST to camp Jita 4-4 with 100 Sieged Nags...
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Ryhss
Caldari 42nd Airborn
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Posted - 2011.01.07 07:21:00 -
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I'm a huge carebear and the OP's idea isn't the worst I ever heard.
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Fat Willy
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Posted - 2011.01.07 11:18:00 -
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I'm also a huge carebear but...
Why is security status fixed for systems? There are systems thht are high sec status but almost empty... all those concord ships and poncing around by themselves. Why? Concord resources should be deployed to where their presence is needed. As the populations of different systems rise and wane over time, the sec status and concord presence should too.
Then there's stations. Massive and hugely expensive constructions abound in empire, but they see little traffic and empty offices. Jita 4/4 should be a massive and prosperous construction, a busy and bustling centre of commerce. But other stations that see little traffic or manufacturing should be of the smaller variety.
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leich
Amarr bish bash bosh
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Posted - 2011.01.07 11:31:00 -
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I really think flexible Empire would be a great idea.
using faction warfare as the catalist.
One faction could take a load of systems of another Faction turning these systems into low-sec systems of the attackers. and vice versa.
Would be awsome to see the map change hands.
it would also drive PVP wich is always good
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Rin Vires
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Posted - 2011.01.07 11:43:00 -
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There is one amazingly postive thing that would come from all of EVE turning 0.0
All macros/bots would die!
Just imagine, people actually having to play the game again to make ISK. It's crazy I know, but just think about it.
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.01.07 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rin Vires There is one amazingly postive thing that would come from all of EVE turning 0.0
All macros/bots would die!
Just imagine, people actually having to play the game again to make ISK. It's crazy I know, but just think about it.
I like how naive you are.
If there's a good industry related boost to go with the all-0.0 change, not too much would change. With less inter-regional trade and encouraged self sufficiency there might be a problem with isotope and moon mineral cartels, but trade agreements between alliances would be the standard modus operandi.
Chances are the blocks would grow and make their space safer than empire is now (if 0.0 isn't already).
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.01.07 12:23:00 -
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If EVE was all 0.0 it would suck - bubble are ansurd and cheap game play and that what bubbles are what 0.0 is all about.
If EVE was all low sec it might be ok except that no one would be able to undock from trading hubs - and tading hubs matter more than some people think.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Davich MacGregor
Minmatar Stellar Products and Quality Resources
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Posted - 2011.01.07 12:26:00 -
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Next time do a search. This is the 1000th time for this question.
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Davich MacGregor
Minmatar Stellar Products and Quality Resources
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Posted - 2011.01.07 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus If I'm not mistaken, EVE used to be like that in the beginnings.
You are highly misinformed. If anything it was even safer in the beginning.
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Alamaurie Lystlan
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Posted - 2011.01.07 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rin Vires There is one amazingly postive thing that would come from all of EVE turning 0.0
All macros/bots would die!
Just imagine, people actually having to play the game again to make ISK. It's crazy I know, but just think about it.
Naive doesn't begin to describe this as there's a ton of bots in 0.0 as well. You'd have to get rid of local to really hurt them.
A lot of people enjoy high-sec - the majority of people would be ****ed off from even a temporary removal of CONCORD penalties. The op hit the nail on the head though - new players are going to be completely alienated and the Industry/Market would go nuts.
Cons completely outweigh the pros. That being said, isn't it time for some more 0.0 systems =)? |
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