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Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:09:00 - [1] Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 05/02/2011 17:21:42 Bond 1 Market Discussion, This will be my first bond, so it will be the most crucial one. I have researched how I should go about this and have consulted flakeys and Kara Roideater about my options. They have been a great help getting me going in the market world so I thought I would mention them here How much do you want? What do I get in return? I am requesting 1.3b at a 11% rate. Investments will be set up in 13 blocks of 100m each. The blocks will be returned along with interest (111m per block) exactly one month after I confirm receipt of all fund from my investors. How will you make money for us... I mean yourself? I plan to station trade in one of the main hubs. Buy low, sell high. Are you experienced at this? I have been trading for the past month or two. I would say I am fairly competent in doing this and I am confident in my ability to complete this bond. Well what do you believe the risks are in this and how are you going to address them? Transportation There is going to be no transportation of assets throughout this bond, any transportation done will be me in a shuttle if I decide to move hubs, which I highly doubt will occur. Failure to Capitalize Another risk is if I start to lose money. This in no way will affect the investor's money or return, which I will explain below. I currently have a NAV of 700m. With this bond I will then have 2b ISK. If at any time I drop below 1.7b ISK total worth, I will immediately end the bond and pay out the interest at that point to avoid any further mistakes and to prevent failure of the bond. The above is a worst case scenario which I cannot foresee ever occurring as I will attempt to prevent any loss by diversifying my investments and using common sense. To date I have yet to lose any money from a trade. Collateral Also I will not be securing this loan with any collateral as I have no collateral to secure this with. Conclusion I am requesting 1.3b ISK in blocks of 100m with a total return of 11% (1.443b or 111m per block) exactly one month after I confirm receipt. I plan to profit purely by station trading. This bond will not be secured, but I assure the investors I would end the bond if I suspected that I was losing money. Please feel free to ask any questions. EDIT: Changed layout, symbols didnt look correct
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:35:00 - [2] Would you please post a list of your main character and any alts you use?
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:36:00 - [3] Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 05/02/2011 17:44:33 I just updated the OP as you said that. I should note that I bought this character a few weeks ago with my alt Tergum Vigilo for roughly 1b ISK. Better to mention it here than people think I am hiding it. Linkage I have a manufacturing alt as well, although I havent been using him really. Id prefer not to let his name out incase I am transporting things with him in the future. EDIT: Added link and mentioned manufacturing alt.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:47:00 - [4] How would you describe your relationship with Controlled Chaos?
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:50:00 - [5] Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 05/02/2011 17:50:22 Originally by: Kalrand How would you describe your relationship with Controlled Chaos? I have no relationship with said alliance.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:54:00 - [6] Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 05/02/2011 17:50:22 Originally by: Kalrand How would you describe your relationship with Controlled Chaos? I have no relationship with said alliance. How would you describe your relationship with Archangel17?
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.05 18:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Kalrand Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 05/02/2011 17:50:22 Originally by: Kalrand How would you describe your relationship with Controlled Chaos? I have no relationship with said alliance. How would you describe your relationship with Archangel17? I have no relationship with him. I assume your questions are in reference to this where it lists Archangel17 as an associate of mine. I was invited to fly in the system Decon with a real life friend of mine (not Archangel) and decided low-sec wasnt for me. I have no relationship with him and only participated in a fleet or 2 with him last month.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.05 18:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Originally by: Kalrand Originally by: Lethal Entrepreneur Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 05/02/2011 17:50:22 Originally by: Kalrand How would you describe your relationship with Controlled Chaos? I have no relationship with said alliance. How would you describe your relationship with Archangel17? I have no relationship with him. I assume your questions are in reference to this where it lists Archangel17 as an associate of mine. I was invited to fly in the system Decon with a real life friend of mine (not Archangel) and decided low-sec wasnt for me. I have no relationship with him and only participated in a fleet or 2 with him last month. Killboards, yes, that particular link, no. What did you do to earn your first 1.7b isk?
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.05 18:18:00 - [9] Originally by: Kalrand Killboards, yes, that particular link, no. What did you do to earn your first 1.7b isk? I earned about 1.1ish billion before I bought this character through several means. I made (if I recall correctly) 500m selling a Wormhole location back to a corporation after (I assume) they lost it. I made probably (rough estimates) ~100-200m flying in Decon, 100m trading, and the rest was from a second plex after I bought a GTC (one to start up this account, one for money). I then started trading with what money I had left on this character and built this up to 700m.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.02.05 18:24:00 - [10] Quote: This will be my first bond, so it will be the most crucial one. I have researched how I should go about this and have consulted flakeys and Kara Roideater about my options Are you sure that that both Flakeys and Kara aka RAW23 told you just what you typed in your prospectus? - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.05 18:27:00 - [11] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: This will be my first bond, so it will be the most crucial one. I have researched how I should go about this and have consulted flakeys and Kara Roideater about my options Are you sure that that both Flakeys and Kara aka RAW23 told you just what you typed in your prospectus? Neither of them told me anything directly to post. In the beginning I consulted Kara (RAW) about what markets I was trading in etc. I have consulted both recently about the bonds, what interest rates would be appropriate and any friendly advice. I did not mean to imply that they endorsed my offering in any way.
flakeys DRAMA Inc Sev3rance	Posted - 2011.02.05 19:29:00 - [12] Unfort a bit too busy atm to dig my head into it but just wanted to make a small comment.I have been approached as said above on how to set up a bond on wich i pointed towards other bonds/ipo's on Md to use as basic and pointed out the appropriate interest rate with it. Nothing more and nothing less besides giving the advice to stay polite even if the heat is on as i was too busy going over the whole thing before and still am. That's my involvement so no i am not backing this up nor rejecting it as a scam , no i am not sure if i'll invest and no you can't have my cookie. I'll try to have a look at it once i got time but unfort after the kids now the wife is time consuming.
Narusegawa Naru Gallente Unicorn Faction	Posted - 2011.02.05 20:32:00 - [13] After a few evemails, I've decided to trust you with 100m towards your bond. Good luck!
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.05 21:05:00 - [14] Originally by: Narusegawa Naru After a few evemails, I've decided to trust you with 100m towards your bond. Good luck! Thanks! Updated the OP with the investor list.
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.02.05 22:48:00 - [15] I'll have to double-check tonight, but assuming I've got the liquid I think I do I'd like to fill the remainder of your bond.
reservent	Posted - 2011.02.05 23:31:00 - [16] If Dethmourne decides not to invest or if there is any left over I'll cover 500m.
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.06 00:02:00 - [17] Alright I updated the investor list and added a reserved investor list should one of the other investors retract their offer. I should note I already received ISK from Naru, but the bond does not launch until it is filled completely.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.06 00:20:00 - [18] Originally by: Narusegawa Naru After a few evemails, I've decided to trust you with 100m towards your bond. Good luck! Wow. This is your first post since 2008. Welcome back.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.06 00:23:00 - [19] Originally by: reservent If Dethmourne decides not to invest or if there is any left over I'll cover 500m. And your first one ever. Welcome to MD.
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.06 00:33:00 - [20] Originally by: Kalrand Originally by: Narusegawa Naru After a few evemails, I've decided to trust you with 100m towards your bond. Good luck! Wow. This is your first post since 2008. Welcome back. Originally by: Kalrand Originally by: reservent If Dethmourne decides not to invest or if there is any left over I'll cover 500m. And your first one ever. Welcome to MD. Guess I just have the magic touch?
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.02.06 01:06:00 - [21] I'm surprised this picked up an investment.
Narusegawa Naru Gallente Unicorn Faction	Posted - 2011.02.06 01:39:00 - [22] Been away for a while, and only just come back. Figuring what to do with some money. I think the last bond I gave out was to the ISS IPO. Happy to give a new person a break, give them a chance to earn trust of others.
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.02.06 02:51:00 - [23] Originally by: Liberty Eternal I'm surprised this picked up an investment. I'm not investing so much as gambling; I can gamble from work on MD but not on EOH.
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.06 02:55:00 - [24] Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane Originally by: Liberty Eternal I'm surprised this picked up an investment. I'm not investing so much as gambling; I can gamble from work on MD but not on EOH. Maybe I should have just opened a Casino instead of this bond All jokes aside, just waiting on verification from Deth to see if we can get the bond launched tonight.
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.02.06 03:05:00 - [25] Tell you what, since you've got somebody else asking to get in on the action for 500m, let me cut mine by 500m and we'll split the fun Got another bil magically added to my wallet today, not really sure what's going on so I gotta find out if somebody's cashing out on something or what when I get home, but definitely can cover the bil if your 500m investor doesn't want in after all.
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.06 03:09:00 - [26] Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 06/02/2011 03:15:48 Alright, Deth is now investing 7 blocks and reservant is investing 5 blocks. Awaiting isk from investors. EDIT: Misread Deths post.
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.02.06 06:17:00 - [27] 700m sent.
reservent	Posted - 2011.02.06 09:10:00 - [28] 500m isk sent. Thanks Dethmourne Been looking for a first time bond that I got a good feeling about for a few months now for my first investment.
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.06 14:40:00 - [29] Confirming ISK received. The bond has launched and will end on March 6th, 2011.
Lethal Entrepreneur	Posted - 2011.02.09 01:58:00 - [30] Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 09/02/2011 02:04:20 Edited by: Lethal Entrepreneur on 09/02/2011 02:00:23 Update 2 Days in: One of my many markets has been growing much faster than I anticipated and I have already gathered 15% in profits in regards to the original investment, already exceeding the necessary funds to fulfill the interest on this bond. Due to this I have consulted my original investors and I have decided that expanding my original bond for another 3.7 billion. I would like to take advantage of this market before anyone else does as well. While I understand that I should have asked for a higher amount in the beginning rather than expanding I did not anticipate such growth and since I am gathering profits of this magnitude, I doubt anyone else did as well. I understand that an expansion of this size may make the investors uncomfortable (although there was no indication of the when I had consulted them) so I am offering to pay them out now following the below equation: 1.11x(n/28) + x where x is the original investment and n is the amount of days I have been holding their money, which at this point is 3. Please contact me in-game if you wish to withdraw. I have also decided that I am now offering any investor in this bond the opportunity to rollover on March 6th, retaining the same interest with the possibility for increased investment. This should allow for trust to be built between me and my investors to ensure a successful and stable future. Original Investor List (Available for withdrawal until Feb 10th) reservent - 5 blocks - 500m Narusegawa Naru - 1 block - 100m Dethmourne Silvermane - 7 blocks - 700m Updated Investor List reservent - 10 blocks -1000m Narusegawa Naru - 3 blocks - 300m Dethmourne Silvermane - 7 blocks - 700m Von Bonez - 18 blocks - 1800m Hrabandur2 - 5 blocks - 500m Total: 4.3 billion (700m free) I have received all ISK from the above parties. Potential Investor List kitenz - 2 blocks - 200m Feel free to ask any questions below.

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