Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto

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I did a count on the Eve-Kill, and threw out all the double-counted folks(stupid smartbombs, messing up related kill trackers...). This might be a bit off, but it's pretty close.

NC: 23 titan(-9), 52 mom, 49 dread(-3), 72 carrier(-5)
DRF: 14 titan(-2), 86 mom(-2), 19 dread(-7), 29 carrier(-2)

plus like 200 NC support and 150 DRF support, with minimal losses.

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Originally by: Zintrex

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GF chaps lets do it agean someday in the future.
lets see if we can beat the records set today.

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Originally by: Mister Normal

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man, i want a titan so i can fight too!

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Originally by: CARY

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Originally by: Mister Normal

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man, i want a titan so i can fight too!

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You will die!

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Originally by: Silent Dodger

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We will not stop, we will not retreat. And we don't need your space, we are here to kill you, dear NC. We are the DRF. Resistance is futile.

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Originally by: Silent Dodger

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...killing 1 of our nyx's (the pilot was too dumb to warp away so he deserved it)....

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Originally by: Ace Frehley

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How was Rudi V÷llers performance during this fight?

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Originally by: Cone Filler

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if LXQ was the NC's Stalingrad

then Uemon must be the Battle for Kursk :smug:

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Originally by: Suitonia

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Sent By: [email protected]/888874081297654086682217
To: blue
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*ALL SUPPORT OVERLOAD UEMON US TIME ZONE ALL NC MOVE TO UEMON IN BATTLESHIPS HICTORS REST HOSTILE CAPS D/C AND HOSTILE SUPPORT #'s DROPPING
WAR IS ON!*to everyone
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Originally by: Shamus McFly

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Dear CCP,

Please use player subscriptions to buy Road Runner super computer.

thanks,
SHAM

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Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk

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oh noes, PL still has access to our jabber, the horror

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Originally by: Carniflex

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Originally by: Cone Filler

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if LXQ was the NC's Stalingrad

then Uemon must be the Battle for Kursk :smug:

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While Uemon losses are not quite negligible I would say that the amount of losses are not quite there for the Kursk scale. As they say in the south, it aint over till the FAT lady sings ;) - in south the FAT lady means usually FAT-GP, a coffin nail of several alliances. No system of strong tactical value has fallen yet.

By taking advantage of the inside disbanding of rebellion alliance the DRF has gained a bridgehead in Geminate, but it will remain to be seen if they can keep it as well. It is long way to to the sov levels needed for Cyno jammers and we have yet to see the Stalingrad and Kursk battles of the current invasion. Being on NC side I believe that NC can field more than they did in LXQ when you push their back to the wall.

It will not be the last battle where we will see the soul crushing lag in this campaign. Regadless if CCP cooks their Jita node inside liquid nitrogen pool far past any sane OC levels or not. If the NC decides it's 'do or die' battle I expect them to be able field approx 6000 pilots with approx 1000 of them in supercapitals/capitals. Remember - goons are still in the south atm and if they walk over to north for THAT battle then it would bring nontrivial amount of pilots on table. On the same token I expect DRF forces to be able to field approx 3000 pilots altogehter as well if they mobilize every single man they can and decide it's 'do or die' battle - however being able to get these 3000 for invasion .. probably not. If it would be for their core territory .. then yes. LXQ for example was pretty important DRF system although by that point morale probably was not as good as it could have been.

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Originally by: Carniflex

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Originally by: Cone Filler

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if LXQ was the NC's Stalingrad

then Uemon must be the Battle for Kursk :smug:

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It will not be the last battle where we will see the soul crushing lag in this campaign. Regadless if CCP cooks their Jita node inside liquid nitrogen pool far past any sane OC levels or not. If the NC decides it's 'do or die' battle I expect them to be able field approx 6000 pilots with approx 1000 of them in supercapitals/capitals. Remember - goons are still in the south atm and if they walk over to north for THAT battle then it would bring nontrivial amount of pilots on table. On the same token I expect DRF forces to be able to field approx 3000 pilots altogehter as well if they mobilize every single man they can and decide it's 'do or die' battle - however being able to get these 3000 for invasion .. probably not. If it would be for their core territory .. then yes. LXQ for example was pretty important DRF system although by that point morale probably was not as good as it could have been.

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Originally by: Max50

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While you all do that i hope more fights like this can deliver lols for the sanctum fitted supers too.Some players are limited by their ISK potential when they fit and others by their intelligence.
Therefore the loggin of 6000 crap in a system waiting for the others is propable the best option given what you have to work with.
EVE's endgame....

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Originally by: Carniflex

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Every alliance has its lemmings. NC, DRF, South, leet pvp - it does not matter. There is always someone who jumps while FC screams HOLD ON GATE or asks 'wut?' 3 secs after orders are told in teamspeak, relayed in text in fleet chat and boradcasted in fleet system.

Ofc at the end of day in a blob you need just one skilled guy to save the day - assuming it's in command. All others have just do as ordered. So in the endgame is is reasonably simple, good FC, dicipline and fielding what FC asked you to field determine the outcome. Well some luck with lag gods can help as well, but it's rarely the luck that determines the lag luck as it's more often than not the blob that is jumping in who suffers the higher casualty rate.

On average I have seen better FC's in the south than in the north. The core FC's - who are in command when supercaps die left and right these are about the same quality and it's matter of preference whose style you prefer.

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Originally by: Sun sue

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And we are using titans in low sec because.......... ?

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Originally by: Xeen McKenna

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McWookiesRevolution dot com

check it out, youll love it

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Originally by: Eggmuffin Two

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Having said that, I would love to hear an objective report (more detailed than "NC sux", please) on how NC ended up losing the majority of the capital and supercapital ships, despite fielding superior numbers.

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Originally by: Sun sue

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And we are using titans in low sec because.......... ?

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Originally by: Daco Cutter

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Originally by: Xeen McKenna

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McWookiesRevolution dot com

check it out, youll love it

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You spelt Wookies wrong mate, it's Wookiees

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Originally by: Requiescat

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someone care to explain quite how this came about? battlereport?

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Originally by: SourceThree

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Edited by: SourceThree on 16/02/2011 15:13:52
This fight was bull$h!t. Had soul crushing lag for over an hour, once I actually got in my client wouldn't load the grid. So I could only see a few neutrals which were actually friendly. Then somehow my ship got popped even though I couldn't see anything.

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Originally by: SourceThree

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Also there were NC Supercaps and Titans that tried to jump out and log off, and even though they weren't pointed they still somehow died hours after the clients gave the command to jump out or log off.

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Originally by: SourceThree

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They really shouldn't make it seem like it was a fair fight from any standpoint, would have been epic if the lag weren't so bad!

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Originally by: Silent Dodger

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The Battlereport.

Nc decided to check our ballz. They have gathered like 250 members in capital fleet (about 20 titans, 40 sc's and many regular caps), and jumped to uemon, killing 1 of our nyx's (the pilot was too dumb to warp away so he deserved it).

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Originally by: Darius III

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This fight would have been very different if the game was playable.

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Originally by: Darius III

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I have played the Eve "Endgame" and let me tell you-it sucks. This isnt me whining about some BS like missions are unbalanced etc-this is about the really important battles- with hundreds of billions of isk on the battlefield-being totally unplayable. This is the most important fight for us in months(if not ever)-and most of our guys couldnt get into system.

I spent several hours just trying to jump in system. Once I loaded grid after a three hour wait-I was stuck at the emergency warp location off the gate for another few hours.

I really can not in good consciousness, recommend eve as a PvP game any more. It really isn't a PvP game if it is unplayable at the core of the endgame when super-capital fights take place.

If you are an aspiring Titan pilot: Don't waste your time on this crappy excuse of a lagged out unplayable "game". Just do some incursions or mining, maybe run some Level 5 missions. As it stands now- there is no reason to field anything big until the game gets "fixed".

This fight would have been very different if the game was playable. Not saying NC would have won or DRF would have done better or worse-but fight would have been much different. Eve Online 1/5 stars

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Originally by: Exxter Evox

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Friendly forces (331 ships, 2 840 974 points, 336 pilots)
Hostile forces (472 ships, 2 523 312 points, 470 pilots)

Seen from the perspective of RUS it wasn't such a big loose after all.
Sure 10 titans popped but who cares, this game is build around looses.

The battle ratio is at 53%:47% efficiency, rounded up by 0.1% in favour of RUS.

For me its a draw in looses. Anyone knows Wayne? :D

Winner in this draw is the site that can faster reimburse "everyone".

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Originally by: Chib

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Originally by: Daco Cutter

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Originally by: Xeen McKenna

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McWookiesRevolution dot com

check it out, youll love it

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You spelt Wookies wrong mate, it's Wookiees

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did i spell wookies wrong too?

And yes the only thing dealing any damage were infact drones/fighters/FB if you were lucky enough to get them out. Alliance dude in a drake mentioned he went through 2 reloads in 8hrs or something to give you an idea of how badly modules were cycling. We spent 4hrs+ shooting a nyx at a planet belonging to raiden which eventually died and no KM was generated for

One of the NC titans went from full Shield to dead instantly while he wasnt even primary ...explain that if you can

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Originally by: Exxter Evox

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Friendly forces (331 ships, 2 840 974 points, 336 pilots)
Hostile forces (472 ships, 2 523 312 points, 470 pilots)

Seen from the perspective of RUS it wasn't such a big loose after all.
Sure 10 titans popped but who cares, this game is build around looses.

The battle ratio is at 53%:47% efficiency, rounded up by 0.1% in favour of RUS.

For me its a draw in looses. Anyone knows Wayne? :D

Winner in this draw is the site that can faster reimburse "everyone".

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Originally by: Eggmuffin Two

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Would I be correct to assume that yet again both sides failed to fill out the fleet fight notification form?

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Originally by: LiMu Bai

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Welp :D

Always nice to write history .D

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Originally by: CCP Veritas

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Hi there guys.

A few corrections before I get into the meat:

• Uemon was already on its own node for that fight


• Uemon was not overloaded because of drones, at least not mostly. We've isolated a bulk of the load to systems that are not present in nullsec.

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