I am a 5 months old player and I have seen many scam going on in Eve online. I have today been scam 300mil isk. To make that money, I had been playing 10 hrs a day for the last 3 weeks. I know many players can make more but as a new player, this is what i can only manage.

I saw a buy order in the market for an item 2,000 units for a minimum order of 2,000unit at 200kisk each. I purchase all the items in the market and when i select sell, the price still indicate 200k isk but when I confirm it, the buy order disappear. For that 1 transaction, I lost 300mil.

Indeed, I was con not only by the player but by CCP, because the player I purchase most item was not even online so the question is how he to cancel the buy order? But since the order disappear, make me believe that it was program to perform such by CCP themselves. I refuse to believe that any player would spent 24/7 and ever second to watch the screen and to cancel the buy order and log out at a 2 second interval. Moreover, the player which I purchase most of the item was not online, so question is how did he cancel his buy order offline? Unless it was programed.

Looking into the entire Eve, there is many scam going on that in any other games you will not see because all this loophole has been covered by the developer.

For example, we all know about PLEX scam that has been going on where you think you buy a Plex cheap in contract but you actually have to give back a plex and loss the 320mil (standard plex con rate). The question, why did CCP allow the same identical item to be allow to post as a Buy/Sell contract? Meaning, you can post that you selling an item in exchange you want the same item back. Not even in real life such system exist. Allowing minimum quantity up to a rediculess amount is another part of program that only CCP allowing it to take place. And many more scam.

Reason of me believing that CCP is the one scamming is that in such players will be force to buy more Plex or renew their account in real money. Why make us believe that we can actually make money mining/trading/manufacturing to buy a Plex where chances you get con at end of the day.

Many of my friends who actually get a Plex was totally into ratting not into to buying and selling ****.

Other than CCP is the real scammer behind all those player name, there is no other reason why CCP allow scam to take place, in the 1st place. They have the objective, the motive and the real benefit behind all those scam.

I though i was 100mil more to go to get a Plex in 2 days before my accounts expire but I was wrong, dead wrong. So no, I will not be able to buy a Plex.

Will I be paying in real money to renew my account? The question I ask myself is why? Why do I want to continue to play a game that instead of enjoying myself I get grief, I get con and scam only to feel unhappy, angry and a complete idiot. Yes I agree (no trolling require) I am a idiot to allow myself to pay real money and feel unhappy about it. This USD$14.95 I could get in a game when I can feel better achievement and pleasure.

For all those real players who are not CCP staff or part of their organization, I don't feel angry at you even if you are a scammer or griefer. It is CCP that I should be angry about. Just like in real life, when you have been rob and the police watch you being rob, instead of helping you, he tell you thats real life mechanic, so get over it. I would be extremely angry at the police more than the robber. For all you know, the robber has already team up with the police in the 1st place. Just like what CCP is telling you that this is game mechanic but they are the one who create this mechanic.

I am positive that CCP will not feel anything losing 1 player as myself nor would Eve stop it's cycle. But this is one of many reasons why it is hard for Eve to get new players. At the end of the day, it handful of people all with multiple alt surrounded by CCP scammer alt that would only exist in the game.

I wish the remaining players or those that would remain in the near future goodbye and thanks for showing me it is not worth playing Eve as long as you would cause it would be idiotic wouldn't it? Hence I have save alot of money and this money will be spent on game that is more worth my attention and where I could gain pleasure instead of any bad emotion.

1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)

You sir have fallen for the typical "Trade Margin" scam. And no CCP is not behind it.

CCP allows it because EVE is supposed to be a universe where pricks and a-holes feel at home.

If ccp really wanted to scam people they'd make isk disapear not allow people to rip each other off.

I didn't knew the margin trading scam, but now I know it

If CCP is not behind this, explain how a buy order was cancel when player not online?

You sir have fallen for the typical "Trade Margin" scam. And no CCP is not behind it.

If CCP is not behind this, explain how a buy order was cancel when player not online?

Ability to make potentially risky investments work in your favor. Each level of skill reduces the percentage of ISK placed in market escrow when entering buy orders. Starting with an escrow percentage of 100% at Level 0 (untrained skill), each skill level cumulatively reduces the percentage by 25%. For a maximum reduction of approximately 24% total escrow at level 5.

If CCP is not behind this, explain how a buy order was cancel when player not online?

If CCP is not behind this, explain how a buy order was cancel when player not online?

Unfortunately, this Margin Scam is that scammer use the margin skills and other mechanics to scam us our isk. But all this mechanics has no real benefits to players other than player who intend to scam. So why the mechanics the 1st place? So that CCP could scam us without us pushing the blame to them and all to those players (who no1 is sure who it is? Could be CCP themselves) . Because if any real buyer, why would he place a buy order when he doesn't have the amount of money to pay in the 1st place, unless he has no intention of fulfilling the buy order. Thus the mechanic is for the sole purpose of scamming.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1645051#post1645051

That should explain it for you.

1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)

As I have stated, unless someone can explain to me how the order was cancel when the player is not online, then I would believe that CCP is not involve. And if it is due to margin, then again, the mechanics was was the sole purpose of scamming. How then CCP is not involve cos they create the mechanic in the 1st place.

This is best part .

Hmm maybe you could write to Obama to nuke Iceland. I think there is proper reason "making US people look dumb" .

Unfortunately, this Margin Scam is that scammer use the margin skills and other mechanics to scam us our isk. But all this mechanics has no real benefits to players other than player who intend to scam. So why the mechanics the 1st place? So that CCP could scam us without us pushing the blame to them and all to those players (who no1 is sure who it is? Could be CCP themselves) . Because if any real buyer, why would he place a buy order when he doesn't have the amount of money to pay in the 1st place, unless he has no intention of fulfilling the buy order. Thus the mechanic is for the sole purpose of scamming.

As I have stated, unless someone can explain to me how the order was cancel when the player is not online, then I would believe that CCP is not involve. And if it is due to margin, then again, the mechanics was was the sole purpose of scamming. How then CCP is not involve cos they create the mechanic in the 1st place.

If CCP is not behind this, explain how a buy order was cancel when player not online?

As I have stated, unless someone can explain to me how the order was cancel when the player is not online, then I would believe that CCP is not involve. And if it is due to margin, then again, the mechanics was was the sole purpose of scamming. How then CCP is not involve cos they create the mechanic in the 1st place.

1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)

lol, new players trying to market PvP
learn to play before you make these ridiculous accusations.

1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)

That why I say, why play a game where you get scam every corner? Some say that this is like real life, I beg the different, because in real life you wouldn't dare scam a person outright. I am looking for a game that I can enjoy, pve or pvp. But definitely not a game that would make you emotional angry every now and then you get grief or scam. Why play a game then if the game would only make you unhappy?

Yeah, Margin scam, Plex scam and the whole lot of different scam that evolve Eve daily. So is that all what Eve is all about? For the last 2 months I had been scam by P.I.S.S. alliance where I have to contribute all my PI and mine 5hrs of ice each day where promise of payment for my services but eventually nothing and my badger got blow up by blue cos the person wants his killmail to look good and alliance did nothing. I spent another 2 weeks moving my stuff out and settling down from null sec to back to high sec...just to con again.

Eve is all about nothing but being con or go con some1 else :(

.... because in real life you wouldn't dare scam a person outright.

That why I say, why play a game where you get scam every corner? Some say that this is like real life, I beg the different, because in real life you wouldn't dare scam a person outright. I am looking for a game that I can enjoy, pve or pvp. But definitely not a game that would make you emotional angry every now and then you get grief or scam. Why play a game then if the game would only make you unhappy?

Yeah, Margin scam, Plex scam and the whole lot of different scam that evolve Eve daily. So is that all what Eve is all about? For the last 2 months I had been scam by P.I.S.S. alliance where I have to contribute all my PI and mine 5hrs of ice each day where promise of payment for my services but eventually nothing and my badger got blow up by blue cos the person wants his killmail to look good and alliance did nothing. I spent another 2 weeks moving my stuff out and settling down from null sec to back to high sec...just to con again.

Eve is all about nothing but being con or go con some1 else :(

CCP can't fix stupid, sorry.

That why I say, why play a game where you get scam every corner? Some say that this is like real life, I beg the different, because in real life you wouldn't dare scam a person outright. I am looking for a game that I can enjoy, pve or pvp. But definitely not a game that would make you emotional angry every now and then you get grief or scam. Why play a game then if the game would only make you unhappy?

Yeah, Margin scam, Plex scam and the whole lot of different scam that evolve Eve daily. So is that all what Eve is all about? For the last 2 months I had been scam by P.I.S.S. alliance where I have to contribute all my PI and mine 5hrs of ice each day where promise of payment for my services but eventually nothing and my badger got blow up by blue cos the person wants his killmail to look good and alliance did nothing. I spent another 2 weeks moving my stuff out and settling down from null sec to back to high sec...just to con again.

Eve is all about nothing but being con or go con some1 else :(

So when you get rob in real world, you accept it when the authorities tells you they can't fix weak cos you are one? You speak like you are CCP....are you MotherFuxker?

I insult no one in my post, I expect the same.I appreciate those who explain kindly but those who thinks your old timer in the game that you know it all and that I should take all your insult just make me sick and make yourself even dumber than i was.

I think EVE should have a minimum age requirement of 14 to avoid stuff like this.

I got scammed once, it took me 8 months but I found the ****** in the right place at the right time and I made him pay (as much as one can in internet spaceship terms).

As unhealthy as it was, the burning hatred that I had for that POS fueled my gameplay and gave me laser like focus - one purpose, to hang his frozen corpse from my fireplace with candy canes sticking out of his ass like some sort of twisted x-mas stocking. His head on front of my CNR. His eyes blown out from the vacuum of space - jamming Tritanium into his lifeless eye sockets like a Jackolantern from Hell....sorry I digress.

So you expect everyone to read every single post in to the forum before you actually play the game? You dumb enough to shove this off

So you expect everyone to read every single post in to the forum before you actually play the game? You dumb enough to shove this off

Lol, a ton of people have fallen for that scam, me included. And I would have never found out about it until i've been scammed. Which i'm sure applies to 90% of the people posting "You are a moran, don't you read!!!" on this forum.

I think it's complete bull crap that ccp allows it, but whatever. I moved on and so should you. You live and learn

Margin trading is an awesome skill. It allows traders to have more concurrent buy orders, which increases the isk sink through taxes (not much, but still) and parts fools like you with money they didn't deserve. All of that being valid uses within gameplay mechanics.
If you don't like that, then unsub, state 'ME NO LIEK SCAMERZ' as reason and be gone. No one is going to miss you.

p.s.: I'm seriously very interested what would you do if CCP was an american company? Really just tell me, pretty please :)

Margin trading is an awesome skill. It allows traders to have more concurrent buy orders, which increases the isk sink through taxes (not much, but still) and parts fools like you with money they didn't deserve. All of that being valid uses within gameplay mechanics.
If you don't like that, then unsub, state 'ME NO LIEK SCAMERZ' as reason and be gone. No one is going to miss you.

p.s.: I'm seriously very interested what would you do if CCP was an american company? Really just tell me, pretty please :)

I don't want to live in this country anymore :(

I see the Margin trading scam as an example of a broken mechanic. Glad I've never fallen for it.

we all know about PLEX scam that has been going on where you think you buy a Plex cheap in contract but you actually have to give back a plex and loss the 320mil

I insult no one in my post, I expect the same.I appreciate those who explain kindly but those who thinks your old timer in the game that you know it all and that I should take all your insult just make me sick and make yourself even dumber than i was.

A bit off topic but anyone think this is an alt of the guy that was complaining about wormholes staying the same when incursions were getting nerfed? I don't remember his name but his motto was "burn everyone equally". The thread was pretty popular until it got locked, these two seem similar in sentence structure, idiocy, and general lack of command of the english language.

I think we should all complain about "stupidity" and demand it gets nerfed.

I think "stupidity" is a self-correcting problem.

As I have stated, unless someone can explain to me how the order was cancel when the player is not online, then I would believe that CCP is not involve. And if it is due to margin, then again, the mechanics was was the sole purpose of scamming. How then CCP is not involve cos they create the mechanic in the 1st place.

I think "stupidity" is a self-correcting problem.

It was until the invention of the warning label. Leave it to humans to muck up Darwinism.

I know someone who ironed a shirt while he was wearing it. Got some nice burns. Warning label wouldn't have helped... he was one of the dumbest people I've ever met.

This thread makes my brain hurt from all the stupid.

So that's why it's written on the manual you cannot iron while wearing the clothes... I have always wondered why that totally ******** warning was there.

Yup. I was in the Marines doing uniform inspections on an Air Force group... I saw all these severe burns and asked him what happened. Apparently he was running late to my formation and hadn't ironed anything... so he improvised. I wish I was making it up. Totally blew my mind. I wanted to give him a point for sucking it up and showing up instead of going to medical... ended up docking him for a bad press.

I am a 5 months old player and I have seen many scam going on in Eve online. I have today been scam 300mil isk. To make that money, I had been playing 10 hrs a day for the last 3 weeks. I know many players can make more but as a new player, this is what i can only manage.

I saw a buy order in the market for an item 2,000 units for a minimum order of 2,000unit at 200kisk each. I purchase all the items in the market and when i select sell, the price still indicate 200k isk but when I confirm it, the buy order disappear. For that 1 transaction, I lost 300mil.

Indeed, I was con not only by the player but by CCP, because the player I purchase most item was not even online so the question is how he to cancel the buy order? But since the order disappear, make me believe that it was program to perform such by CCP themselves. I refuse to believe that any player would spent 24/7 and ever second to watch the screen and to cancel the buy order and log out at a 2 second interval. Moreover, the player which I purchase most of the item was not online, so question is how did he cancel his buy order offline? Unless it was programed.

Looking into the entire Eve, there is many scam going on that in any other games you will not see because all this loophole has been covered by the developer.

For example, we all know about PLEX scam that has been going on where you think you buy a Plex cheap in contract but you actually have to give back a plex and loss the 320mil (standard plex con rate). The question, why did CCP allow the same identical item to be allow to post as a Buy/Sell contract? Meaning, you can post that you selling an item in exchange you want the same item back. Not even in real life such system exist. Allowing minimum quantity up to a rediculess amount is another part of program that only CCP allowing it to take place. And many more scam.

Reason of me believing that CCP is the one scamming is that in such players will be force to buy more Plex or renew their account in real money. Why make us believe that we can actually make money mining/trading/manufacturing to buy a Plex where chances you get con at end of the day.

Many of my friends who actually get a Plex was totally into ratting not into to buying and selling ****.

Other than CCP is the real scammer behind all those player name, there is no other reason why CCP allow scam to take place, in the 1st place. They have the objective, the motive and the real benefit behind all those scam.

I though i was 100mil more to go to get a Plex in 2 days before my accounts expire but I was wrong, dead wrong. So no, I will not be able to buy a Plex.

Will I be paying in real money to renew my account? The question I ask myself is why? Why do I want to continue to play a game that instead of enjoying myself I get grief, I get con and scam only to feel unhappy, angry and a complete idiot. Yes I agree (no trolling require) I am a idiot to allow myself to pay real money and feel unhappy about it. This USD$14.95 I could get in a game when I can feel better achievement and pleasure.

For all those real players who are not CCP staff or part of their organization, I don't feel angry at you even if you are a scammer or griefer. It is CCP that I should be angry about. Just like in real life, when you have been rob and the police watch you being rob, instead of helping you, he tell you thats real life mechanic, so get over it. I would be extremely angry at the police more than the robber. For all you know, the robber has already team up with the police in the 1st place. Just like what CCP is telling you that this is game mechanic but they are the one who create this mechanic.

I am positive that CCP will not feel anything losing 1 player as myself nor would Eve stop it's cycle. But this is one of many reasons why it is hard for Eve to get new players. At the end of the day, it handful of people all with multiple alt surrounded by CCP scammer alt that would only exist in the game.

I wish the remaining players or those that would remain in the near future goodbye and thanks for showing me it is not worth playing Eve as long as you would cause it would be idiotic wouldn't it? Hence I have save alot of money and this money will be spent on game that is more worth my attention and where I could gain pleasure instead of any bad emotion.

1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)

I am a 5 months old player and I have seen many scam going on in Eve online. I have today been scam 300mil isk. To make that money, I had been playing 10 hrs a day for the last 3 weeks. I know many players can make more but as a new player, this is what i can only manage.

I saw a buy order in the market for an item 2,000 units for a minimum order of 2,000unit at 200kisk each. I purchase all the items in the market and when i select sell, the price still indicate 200k isk but when I confirm it, the buy order disappear. For that 1 transaction, I lost 300mil.

Indeed, I was con not only by the player but by CCP, because the player I purchase most item was not even online so the question is how he to cancel the buy order? But since the order disappear, make me believe that it was program to perform such by CCP themselves. I refuse to believe that any player would spent 24/7 and ever second to watch the screen and to cancel the buy order and log out at a 2 second interval. Moreover, the player which I purchase most of the item was not online, so question is how did he cancel his buy order offline? Unless it was programed.

Looking into the entire Eve, there is many scam going on that in any other games you will not see because all this loophole has been covered by the developer.

For example, we all know about PLEX scam that has been going on where you think you buy a Plex cheap in contract but you actually have to give back a plex and loss the 320mil (standard plex con rate). The question, why did CCP allow the same identical item to be allow to post as a Buy/Sell contract? Meaning, you can post that you selling an item in exchange you want the same item back. Not even in real life such system exist. Allowing minimum quantity up to a rediculess amount is another part of program that only CCP allowing it to take place. And many more scam.

Reason of me believing that CCP is the one scamming is that in such players will be force to buy more Plex or renew their account in real money. Why make us believe that we can actually make money mining/trading/manufacturing to buy a Plex where chances you get con at end of the day.

Many of my friends who actually get a Plex was totally into ratting not into to buying and selling ****.

Other than CCP is the real scammer behind all those player name, there is no other reason why CCP allow scam to take place, in the 1st place. They have the objective, the motive and the real benefit behind all those scam.

I though i was 100mil more to go to get a Plex in 2 days before my accounts expire but I was wrong, dead wrong. So no, I will not be able to buy a Plex.

Will I be paying in real money to renew my account? The question I ask myself is why? Why do I want to continue to play a game that instead of enjoying myself I get grief, I get con and scam only to feel unhappy, angry and a complete idiot. Yes I agree (no trolling require) I am a idiot to allow myself to pay real money and feel unhappy about it. This USD$14.95 I could get in a game when I can feel better achievement and pleasure.

For all those real players who are not CCP staff or part of their organization, I don't feel angry at you even if you are a scammer or griefer. It is CCP that I should be angry about. Just like in real life, when you have been rob and the police watch you being rob, instead of helping you, he tell you thats real life mechanic, so get over it. I would be extremely angry at the police more than the robber. For all you know, the robber has already team up with the police in the 1st place. Just like what CCP is telling you that this is game mechanic but they are the one who create this mechanic.

I am positive that CCP will not feel anything losing 1 player as myself nor would Eve stop it's cycle. But this is one of many reasons why it is hard for Eve to get new players. At the end of the day, it handful of people all with multiple alt surrounded by CCP scammer alt that would only exist in the game.

I wish the remaining players or those that would remain in the near future goodbye and thanks for showing me it is not worth playing Eve as long as you would cause it would be idiotic wouldn't it? Hence I have save alot of money and this money will be spent on game that is more worth my attention and where I could gain pleasure instead of any bad emotion.

1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)

These men ladies and gentlemen, are allowed in on top-secret information, control bombings of "enemies" and work with some extremely expensive and technical equipment...

murcuh, **** yea

Believe it or not, you will look back on this and laugh and relize its just part of the learning process. Pilots lose supers and even Titans in battles which cost 10's of billions and still move foward. nuff said.

Unfortunately, this Margin Scam is that scammer use the margin skills and other mechanics to scam us our isk. But all this mechanics has no real benefits to players other than player who intend to scam. So why the mechanics the 1st place? So that CCP could scam us without us pushing the blame to them and all to those players (who no1 is sure who it is? Could be CCP themselves) . Because if any real buyer, why would he place a buy order when he doesn't have the amount of money to pay in the 1st place, unless he has no intention of fulfilling the buy order. Thus the mechanic is for the sole purpose of scamming.

At this point i think we're all wishing you were making this up

I have been SCAM by CCP

I dunno.. I was in the Marines and I can see a Marine doing that, but a chairborne ranger? One of Uncle Sam's Aerial Fairies (USAF)?

5 month old player and he's just learning now about the margin trading scam?

fuuuuu, what do corps do with/for their members these days? I knew the general mechanic by the end of my first month ... and I was still in a noobcorp then...

I am a 5 months old player and I have seen many scam going on in Eve online. I have today been scam 300mil isk.

I think EVE should have a minimum age requirement of 14 to avoid stuff like this.

I dunno.. I was in the Marines and I can see a Marine doing that, but a chairborne ranger? One of Uncle Sam's Aerial Fairies (USAF)?

Oh... it gets better. It was at an intelligence training school.

CCP can't fix stupid, sorry.

5 month old player and he's just learning now about the margin trading scam?

good idea, as it would remove some 85% of forum posters. :) ]

1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)

if ccp did this you can try this link,

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Internal_affairs

bunch of random bullcrap

anyone think of a decent reason to keep the margin trading skill?

anyone think of a decent reason to keep the margin trading skill?

You are dumb as hell.

If CCP is not behind this, explain how a buy order was cancel when player not online?

And your an fkin idiot...

Tal

To make that money, I had been playing 10 hrs a day for the last 3 weeks.

You don't seems to understand I think. Yes I do know now that this is a Margin Scam, but the Margin scam uses the help of the Margin Skill to perform such scam. However, no true buyer would bother training that skill unless they want to false a buy order. Thus the Margin Skills should be know as Scam Skill instead. My point is that when CCP introduce this skill, they promote or assist scammer a new line of scamming. So they are responsible just like how I explain the robber and the police story, unless you didn't care to read it and just busy posting your insults.

*you're

Really dumb stuff.

Thanks lol that's always getting me you sure you're not my boss in disguise ?

Also, an is used prior to a work beginning with a vowel, not a constantant.
And you're still fired.

.Not even in real life such system exist.

...EVERY single person commenting here knows exactly what happened here, except you. I suspect the reason nobody has explained it to you is because there's a thread like this every other week and they are tired of ctrl+c ctrl+v the answer for the zillionth time.

Actually... maybe it's my turn. There is a skill called "Margin Trading" that allows you to put up buy orders in excess of what you actually have in your wallet. For people who have Tycoon 5 this is useful, because it can take months for an order to fill, and in the meantime you have all this isk doing nothing tied up in your orders. So if I have 305 orders out on one account and I'm buying large volumes of some material on the market in a dozen regions, I may only want 1/4 of what I have orders for, but I get a better price by pushing out the orders to more places, which allows me to get the volume I need faster. I am actually using the margin skill to buy stuff right now, because the volume is low all over new eden but I need a lot... so I can put large orders in on different regional markets to try and 1) get a better price and 2) fill the volume I require more quickly. I'm using it as it was intended to be used, and it's allowed me to move like a big trader despite the fact that I'm a little trader.

Some people use the Margin Skill in another way. They put in a minimum buy order of lets say 200,000 of something for 10x it's value on one character, and empty their wallet into another account. They use the other account to sell 200,000 of that same item for 5x its usual price. Then a chump comes along (in this case, you) and sees the disparity on the market. Thinking they will double their money in a minute, they buy the 200,000 units of that item and ignore the warning that it's 5x the going rate for that item, thinking they will just flip it. However, when they go to sell it the buy order disappears, because the account that put in that buy order doesn't have the ISK to pay you, so the order disappears and you just gave the scammer 4x his initial investment.

tl;dr; google harder. This scam happens every day.

No, I am. You're fired.

Also, an is used prior to a work beginning with a vowel, not a constantant. For example, it's "you're fired because you're a fking idiot" not "you're fired because you're an fking idiot".

And you're still fired.

This thread was answered on page 1, surprised it's still going. Must be slow on the forums at the moment.

It always amazes me when people whine about being scammed, there is only one conclusion to draw and that is these people are stupid. I have been playing EvE since 2005 and I have Never, not once, fallen for a single scam.

Maybe CCP should make new players take an IQ test before signing up.

The scam is the IQ test

So you expect everyone to read every single post in to the forum before you actually play the game? You dumb enough to shove this off

The scam is the IQ test

Not particularly, i'm sure if you guys really got into trading when you first started you'd get scammed as well. But hey, my ***** is bigger than yours so there!!!

if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)

1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)

Pretty sure Test is responsible for 95% of scams

Honestly.. I think they should remove the margin trading skill.

Not because of this guy but because I'm sure that he's not the first nor the last person to get scammed by it.

I bet the skill is mostly used by scammers, real traders don't need the benefits that skill provides.

First I like how the ISD changes the TOPIC TITLE lol... what power do these idiots not have?

Ok so now were getting the intellectually superior in their own minds types posting. The guy is new, he looks at the market as buy low sell high, problem is as for anyone new, he doesn't know all the skills, this is not a matter of intelligence but knowing some pretty obscure rules, so settle down geniuses.

Having said that, OP you are getting a bit paranoid there, claiming some of these "geniuses" are CCP, they are just trying to feel better about themselves based on you being new and Fing up. Also you are better off just taking your loss and not bitching about this. Take it as a lesson learned, most here have had at least one.

I am a 5 months old player and (...)

Iceland is no different.

I agree the ISD's editing of the thread is a joke. "I have been SCAM" ?!?!?!?!


"EDIT: Changed your thread title since it has been explained to you that CCP has not scammed you at all - ISD Type40."

I would still put forth the original title is correct because the Margin Trading Scam err Skill is a broken game mechanic & CCP is aware of it & lets it continue. SEC would have shut down Eve's market years ago if they got the number of complaints GM's do about escow fraud.

You don't seems to understand I think. Yes I do know now that this is a Margin Scam, but the Margin scam uses the help of the Margin Skill to perform such scam. However, no true buyer would bother training that skill unless they want to false a buy order. Thus the Margin Skills should be know as Scam Skill instead. My point is that when CCP introduce this skill, they promote or assist scammer a new line of scamming. So they are responsible just like how I explain the robber and the police story, unless you didn't care to read it and just busy posting your insults.