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Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:39:00 -
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You're all missing the point.
It's not about increasing the number of targets in losec.
It's about removing the high income at no risk that level 4 hisec missions give.
If you want that kind of income there should be an associated risk, and there isn't. Noone suicide ganks t1 battleships with t2 fittings anyway.
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Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:41:00 -
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I'm for anything that can make the desert wasteland that is losec to be more active. Right now it's void of pretty much anything but empty space.
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Cys Root
Gallente
Onefix RD
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:42:00 -
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I make more money trading than any normal person makes running level 4 missions, should we restrict trade to low-sec only also?
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:43:00 -
[34]
 Originally by: Ariz Black
Remove level 4 agents from highsec. Levels 4 and 5 should be only 0.4 and down.
Oh look, suddenly lots of people have a reason to leave carebearland.
Dear sir or GIRL, you have been officially declared too stupid to post in this forums. Please leave the forums and stop embarrassing yourself.
Thanks.
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Wtes Noreun Detanileym
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:46:00 -
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Drop every system's sec status by 0.1 except newbie starters.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:47:00 -
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That would not substantially boost lowsec. Lowsec already produces huge, easy ISK for those willing to risk it via level 5's and FW missions. All your proposal would do is nerf highsec.
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Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Cheney
All your proposal would do is nerf highsec.
by nerfing hisec, losec is relatiely boosted. hisec is op anyway.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
All your proposal would do is nerf highsec.
by nerfing hisec, losec is relatiely boosted. hisec is op anyway.
Just ask yourself how many people is actually doing Lvl5 since they where "fixed" and only happen in lowsec... those lvl5 agents are now the loneliest NPCs in EvE & most Lvl5 could break down and nobody ever notice it.
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garus banta
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:14:00 -
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oh you are so naive. see the little fish dont go the pond where the big fish hunt. No amount of mission tweaking will change that, see it's still ALL YOUR FAULT. It's not the missions it's YOU!
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Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:17:00 -
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i will now re-quote myself just because people fail at reading.
Originally by: Ariz Black
You're all missing the point.
It's not about increasing the number of targets in losec.
It's about removing the high income at no risk that level 4 hisec missions give.
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Admiral Sarah Solette
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette on 19/03/2011 21:25:41
Originally by: Myelinated
Maybe you shouldn't generalize that all mission ships can't be made unprobable like a smacktard then. Hmm?
You created a new word just for me? I'm touched, really.
That's one ship class that could successfully run a level 4 without being scanned down. Pull your head out of your ass ****tard, and think about the proposal a little more. k?
Here, I'll fix it since you can't wrap your puny brain around the concept: It would render the majority of level 4 missioning ships useless. Better now? Can you understand a basic concept now?
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:34:00 -
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Highsec-only players will never go to lowsec. Lowsec is fundamentally unappealing to those players. They do go to null, where safety can also be achieved. This does not in any way "boost low sec."
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Myelinated
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Sarah Solette
Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette on 19/03/2011 21:25:41
Originally by: Myelinated
Maybe you shouldn't generalize that all mission ships can't be made unprobable like a smacktard then. Hmm?
You created a new word just for me? I'm touched, really.
That's one ship class that could successfully run a level 4 without being scanned down. Pull your head out of your ass ****tard, and think about the proposal a little more. k?
Here, I'll fix it since you can't wrap your puny brain around the concept: It would render the majority of level 4 missioning ships useless. Better now? Can you understand a basic concept now?
Carriers, Mauraders and battleships are still being used to rat, plex and mission in nullsec, so they wouldn't be rendered useless. Scanning down mission runners isn't instant and you can easily evade being warped in on if you pay attention.
But for somone like you who is bad at eve it is too much to ask.
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I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black
i will now re-quote myself just because people fail at reading.
Originally by: Ariz Black
You're all missing the point.
It's not about increasing the number of targets in losec.
It's about removing the high income at no risk that level 4 hisec missions give.
*looks at thread title and OP*
Yes, all this misuderstanding is obviously because some people fail at reading  |
Lucy Journey
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black
You're all missing the point.
It's not about increasing the number of targets in losec.
It's about removing the high income at no risk that level 4 hisec missions give.
I could be inclined to agree that risk vs reward for L4's in highsec is a bit skewed with a tad too high reward for a smidgeon too low risk.
Moving them to lowsec on the other hand would greatly skew the risk vs reward the other way around. Risk would be unacceptably high for the given reward.
So if this ever get's implemented (I wouldn't count on it), and with the new risk vs reward balance being way worse than it is now, can I trust you will be coming to the forums and suggesting changes to counter this new imbalance?
I mean, since you clearly are not suggesting these changes to get more targets in lowsec, but from a more unbiased and elevated standpoint. I would expect nothing less.
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Admiral Sarah Solette
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette on 19/03/2011 21:41:08
Originally by: Myelinated
Carriers, Mauraders and battleships are still being used to rat, plex and mission in nullsec, so they wouldn't be rendered useless. Scanning down mission runners isn't instant and you can easily evade being warped in on if you pay attention.
That is an excellent point! For null sec. Where you can have an entire alliance in the same system ready to come at your call of trouble.
We're talking about low sec here, not nullsec. So according to you, I'm bad at eve, but according to your reading comprehension, you suck at reading. All's good.
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Myelinated
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Sarah Solette
Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette on 19/03/2011 21:41:08
Originally by: Myelinated
Carriers, Mauraders and battleships are still being used to rat, plex and mission in nullsec, so they wouldn't be rendered useless. Scanning down mission runners isn't instant and you can easily evade being warped in on if you pay attention.
That is an excellent point! For null sec. Where you can have an entire alliance in the same system ready to come at your call of trouble.
We're talking about low sec here, not nullsec. So according to you, I'm bad at eve, but according to your reading comprehension, you suck at reading. All's good.
Same applies to lowsec. if you have your corperation based out of the same space in lowsec then you can call for help as well! Unless you're an anti-social loner who doesn't have a Corperation, but then the question becomes why do you even bother playing mmos?
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Myelinated
Originally by: Admiral Sarah Solette
Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette on 19/03/2011 21:41:08
Originally by: Myelinated
Carriers, Mauraders and battleships are still being used to rat, plex and mission in nullsec, so they wouldn't be rendered useless. Scanning down mission runners isn't instant and you can easily evade being warped in on if you pay attention.
That is an excellent point! For null sec. Where you can have an entire alliance in the same system ready to come at your call of trouble.
We're talking about low sec here, not nullsec. So according to you, I'm bad at eve, but according to your reading comprehension, you suck at reading. All's good.
Same applies to lowsec. if you have your corperation based out of the same space in lowsec then you can call for help as well! Unless you're an anti-social loner who doesn't have a Corperation, but then the question becomes why do you even bother playing mmos?
This is "my playstyle is better than other people's playstyle" thread #2384723
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Myelinated
Originally by: Admiral Sarah Solette
Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette on 19/03/2011 21:41:08
Originally by: Myelinated
Carriers, Mauraders and battleships are still being used to rat, plex and mission in nullsec, so they wouldn't be rendered useless. Scanning down mission runners isn't instant and you can easily evade being warped in on if you pay attention.
That is an excellent point! For null sec. Where you can have an entire alliance in the same system ready to come at your call of trouble.
We're talking about low sec here, not nullsec. So according to you, I'm bad at eve, but according to your reading comprehension, you suck at reading. All's good.
Same applies to lowsec. if you have your corperation based out of the same space in lowsec then you can call for help as well! Unless you're an anti-social loner who doesn't have a Corperation, but then the question becomes why do you even bother playing mmos?
Doh, as if the OP wasn't enough, now we get this "Play my way or leave the game" plummeting the IQ of the thread even lower... what would be next?
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Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:28:00 -
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lvl 4s are "high income"? i must be doing it wrong.
they're mediocre income at best. as for "no risk", not if you do it in a mission hub and lose a good chunk of your revenue to ninja salvagers ganking your loot and salvage.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Myelinated
Originally by: Admiral Sarah Solette
Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette on 19/03/2011 21:41:08
Originally by: Myelinated
Carriers, Mauraders and battleships are still being used to rat, plex and mission in nullsec, so they wouldn't be rendered useless. Scanning down mission runners isn't instant and you can easily evade being warped in on if you pay attention.
That is an excellent point! For null sec. Where you can have an entire alliance in the same system ready to come at your call of trouble.
We're talking about low sec here, not nullsec. So according to you, I'm bad at eve, but according to your reading comprehension, you suck at reading. All's good.
Same applies to lowsec. if you have your corperation based out of the same space in lowsec then you can call for help as well! Unless you're an anti-social loner who doesn't have a Corperation, but then the question becomes why do you even bother playing mmos?
This is amusing. Why don't you try undocking once in a while? We hotdropped a shuttle in with titan & company a while back. Why? Because we can. Lolsec is lol. We then went back to sov null home to chain sanctums for 100+ mil per hr.
Lowsec mission runners soon lose enough agent standing and are forced to move back to highsec, regardless of their willingness to risk boats. No amount of reward is going to make a difference. If this weren't the case lvl5s would've been a boon to lowsec.
Before mission scanning, carebears were in lowsec. Then it got implemented, and they left. Come up with whatever "fixes" you want, only one will work.
Lvl5s that pays up to 150k LP per mission are by far the most profitable activity in all of Eve, more than 100 mil/hr sov null sanctums, more than whs, rivaled only by exceptionally lucky plex drops. The most profitable activity in Eve is already in lowsec, and lowsec only. Yet almost no one bothers to do it. Why do you think that is?
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Myelinated
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:29:00 -
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I forgot that people play mmos such eve to isolate themselves from others playing the game.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:42:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai on 19/03/2011 22:43:15
Originally by: Myelinated
I forgot that people play mmos such eve to isolate themselves from others playing the game.
You forget that this game is essentially about people trying to grief and bully people, which is fine for a jail's yard but doesn't exactly count as a social club in my book.
And all in all, we don't know each other and you already are scorning me and inviting me to leave the game becase I am not like you and your buddies... 
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Selinate
Amarr
Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Selinate on 19/03/2011 22:45:13
level 4's aren't as profitable as level 5's (which are all in low sec) or 0.0, plain and simple.
Did I poke a hole in the reason for this thread?
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Myelinated
I forgot that people play mmos such eve to isolate themselves from others playing the game.
No. What people don't do is play to enhance your fun at the expense of theirs . Go troll somewhere else.
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Wtes Noreun Detanileym
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Myelinated
I forgot that people play mmos such eve to isolate themselves from others playing the game.
No. What people don't do is play to enhance your fun at the expense of theirs . Go troll somewhere else.
Apparently you are playing tye wrong game then.
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Selinate
Amarr
Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Goose99
The most profitable activity in Eve is already in lowsec, and lowsec only. Yet almost no one bothers to do it. Why do you think that is?
Because null sec is typically safer than low sec if you're in one of your alliance's systems (as far as staying in one system at a time and doing something to make isk goes).
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Goose99
Lvl5s that pays up to 150k LP per mission are by far the most profitable activity in all of Eve
Up to 150k. Per mission.
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adriaans
Amarr
Ankaa.
Nair Al-Zaurak
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Posted - 2011.03.19 23:02:00 -
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150k LP per lvl 5? WTF are you smoking? 
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dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.03.19 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black
Remove level 4 agents from highsec. Levels 4 and 5 should be only 0.4 and down.
Oh look, suddenly lots of people have a reason to leave carebearland.
lol.. why is it ever "fix" for low sec basically is a scheme to fill it pve players, so pvp players can blow them up with no chance of getting into a real fight.
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