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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:15:00 -
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There was a quick server reboot today to prevent an exploit.
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And for those of you who doesn't read all posts before you reply, here's what GM Wyrm posted on page 3. 
 Originally by: GM Wyrm
Again, sorry about the short notice. We needed to take it down as soon as possible. We are applying a hotfix as we speak.
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
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Latest ETA for server to be back up is at some point before 1500GMT/EVE Time.
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There's some news about it.
Originally by: Oveur
We had to take Tranquility down to address an severely exploitable situation. We found the bug causing the market exploit and were back up 80 minutes later. We are now working on reversing the damage. We apologize for the downtime and hope you understand the need for drastic measures under circumstances like this.
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I will delete the locked threads to clear up the first page of this forum.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
There was a quick server reboot today to prevent a exploit.
'There was a quick server reboot today to prevent AN exploit.
Changed, I was in a hurry to post - Wrangler
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:18:00 -
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Bah, guess it was the right thing to do.
Expect ****loads of petitions from me if my alt and I lost stuff.
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Ajaya
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:19:00 -
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So was the server reboot just to give CCP 20 mins to figure out what to do about it... or did a fix actually get applied during this reboot?
I can just imagine a Dev reading the forums and saying, "OMG, EXPLOIT! I don't know what to do, panick is setting in! Quick! Someone pull the plug to give me time to think!!!"
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little sister
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:19:00 -
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Can you confirm that people who took advanatge of this exploit have been appropriately dealt with?
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Nooey
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:19:00 -
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Man...hearing some truly incredible stories from Corpmates on MSN atm....
Show Your Support For Kaleigh Doyle.
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widgetman
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:19:00 -
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wish we could reboot the real world sometimes..........
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:20:00 -
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Yeah, I'd also like confirmation that the people who abused this exploit will be returned to their pre-exploit status.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:20:00 -
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Good job CCP I mean it Good Job...exploit ID'ed, exploit fixed. And good job to the player who brought it up!!
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
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Jaisan
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
'There was a quick server reboot today to prevent AN exploit.
There was a quick server reboot today, to prevent an exploit.
The lack of punctuation today is rather shocking.
Just too orangey for crows. |
Mina Evasngeli
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:21:00 -
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will losses becourse of this reboot be coverd by the EVE? id like to know
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: widgetman
wish we could reboot the real world sometimes..........
Rolling back would be nice at times too 
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Fredbob
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:22:00 -
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If the server had been left alone til reboot then people would benefit from the exploit aall day long, then people would complain that nothing was done and these other people gained something they shouldn't..
If the server was taken down instantly then the exploit would not become well-known and abused by mass-players as it would be stopped immediately, but people would complain that they lost their ships etc to the reboot.
If the server was taken down after a 1min warning the above would happen, but with less deaths as some peeps could warp out to safety..
I applaud the decision
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
Yeah, I'd also like confirmation that the people who abused this exploit will be returned to their pre-exploit status.
Anyone who used the market since downtime will fall into that cat.
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Karol Kei
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:22:00 -
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Well done. Game breaking exploits must be splatted like bugs, and this one was. I am confident you have the balls to roll back too, if that is needed.
To all people complaining - get a clue. Too many times the GMs don't take action fast enough and while it is all nice and dandy for a moment, it can break a game for A) long time B) forever.
If the petition line did get longer - who cares. They are replacing the lost stuff and all that is sooo minor nuisance to what this exploit was about, if what was posted in another thread was true.
Once more, well done, whoever brought the server down quickly.
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DarkD
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:23:00 -
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In any case. If that was the bug, then you're right to take the server offline straight away. This could have thrown eve upside down.
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Gissa
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:24:00 -
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Kudos to CCP for fast action regarding this xploit
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:24:00 -
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I support the decision.
Also, can upset children who threaten to cancel accounts please cancel them to put yourself out of our misery, and don't post here about it.
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Katjia
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:24:00 -
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all i got to say is kudos to the gm's on how fast they reacted. looking at the posts it took about 10 minutes to react. Most fighter squadrons can't react that fast. WTG
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Sgt Drill
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:24:00 -
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so giving us 15 min instead of 1 min was not an option. Instead you just mad pettition cue a little longer
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
Yeah, I'd also like confirmation that the people who abused this exploit will be returned to their pre-exploit status.
Screw that! If they knowingly used an exploit ban them.
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little sister
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:26:00 -
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Yep, top marks to CCP and thanks to the players who correctly brought the situation to their attention.
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Raven Dru
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:26:00 -
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Excuse me but i ask what the bug was and i get threatened with warning/ban and get my thread locked but i get directed here where its already posted.
Makes no sense to me.
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Turix
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:26:00 -
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What was wrong, that caused the 1 min reboot. I was killing a tri BS spawn :/
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jaisan
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
'There was a quick server reboot today to prevent AN exploit.
There was a quick server reboot today, to prevent an exploit.
The lack of punctuation today is rather shocking.
Actually thats wrong, you dont need anything between the 'today' and 'to'. Its the same comment and shouldnt be seperated. Basically ',' are only put in place where there should be a break or to make another point.
eg:
'I was walking down the street, after leaving my house, to get to the shop'
Tsk Tsk
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Martinus Crimson
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:27:00 -
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Yup only 4000 of the 12000 got to make use of it now ..
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Vampire Blade
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:27:00 -
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WTS: 739 'Arbalest' Siege Missle Launchers.
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Astrid Tron
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:30:00 -
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Yeah, great decission!
The exploit where you could [secret, dont say it again] if you [OMFGIFYOUSAYITAGAINWEWILLCANCELYOURRIGHTTOBREATHE] would have been devastating to the game. 1 minute warning was really a huge service to the players, considering the potential damage that could be done in 1 minute by [OKTHATSITWEKNOWWHEREYOULIVE].
Roll back or whatever you need to do. That might also have the beneficial effect of getting some of all the whiners to cancel their subscription. Hell, I'd vote for a daily rollback just to get rid of them :D
Good Work CCP!
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Lady Galadriel
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:30:00 -
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Good Work CCP ..
Quick of the mark to stop a nasty exploit !
Shame other Developers arent so quick to address unfair expiolts and practices.
( Well done - I just renewed my Sub ! keep up the good work ! )
- Granted this was a day I took of work to do some house work,,
Ill have to do that now .. cause i sneakly planed to play eve instead !
FOILED !   
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Rytir
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rytir on 10/02/2005 13:30:46
Quote:
WTS: 739 'Arbalest' Siege Missle Launchers.
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: hired goon
Yeah, I'd also like confirmation that the people who abused this exploit will be returned to their pre-exploit status.
Anyone who used the market since downtime will fall into that cat.
I hereby step forward then, or should i petition ?
I think i had the exploit, or at least found something strange :D
Bjorn Borg :
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Abraxus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:32:00 -
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I would like to say to all the people who are whining...there is a wonderful game called Lineage 2, its full of people like you, I suggest you make your way there where you will feel more at home 
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Eira Eldan
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:32:00 -
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Thanks CCP. Exploits are bad(TM) and this thing would have ruined the economy if allowed to run rampant till tomorrow.
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Missa
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:33:00 -
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I was 2 minutes from a skill change and got no warning...I don't care how bad the bug was, give everyone at least 1 minute to do something before taking the game offline for over 30 minutes. Also with no server message in sight for a new boot who knows how long it is going to be until the server is up. I wouldn't be so annoyed 'cept for the fact that I was waiting for that skill to change to GO TO SLEEP. Well at least I am only loosing sleep and skill time as opposed to all the people who probably lost their ship and will never see it back...
--Missa
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:33:00 -
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Ok so those 6 station containers I was missing will show up when the game is restarted? I was in the middle of a pettition when we got the one minute warning. As for Broken bones? Geesh dude grow up will ya? Going to cancel cause sombody reported an exploit...
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Abraxus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Broken Bones
I didn't threaten, I did cancel my subscription. Secondly, I am not a kid fyi. Thank you very much.
so why are u still here then? shoooooo 
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Higgous
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Missa
I was 2 minutes from a skill change and got no warning...I don't care how bad the bug was, give everyone at least 1 minute to do something before taking the game offline for over 30 minutes. Also with no server message in sight for a new boot who knows how long it is going to be until the server is up. I wouldn't be so annoyed 'cept for the fact that I was waiting for that skill to change to GO TO SLEEP. Well at least I am only loosing sleep and skill time as opposed to all the people who probably lost their ship and will never see it back...
so ur telling me 1 minute isnt enough to change to a different skill to leave overnight?
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Jaisan
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jaisan on 10/02/2005 13:45:51
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Actually thats wrong, you dont need anything between the 'today' and 'to'. Its the same comment and shouldnt be seperated.
Actually, that's wrong. You don't need anything between the 'today' and 'to'. It's the same comment , and shouldn't be seperated.
Tsk, Tsk.
Punctuation, the new battlefront against forum tards.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: w0rmy on 10/02/2005 13:36:04
Originally by: Astrid Tron
Roll back or whatever you need to do.
Id agree, i'm not a big fan of rollbacks, but this is one time id dare say it would be needed.
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WiZZyWiGG
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:35:00 -
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Things like this happen in every MMORPG at some point its just something you have to deal with or not play these types of games 
Hopefully they will just do a rollback to downtime today.
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:36:00 -
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good and necessary move.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Abraxus
I would like to say to all the people who are whining...there is a wonderful game called Lineage 2, its full of people like you, I suggest you make your way there where you will feel more at home
Yes please go there...god I hate that game...what a waste of money...played it for a total of three weeks...too many kids wanting to be big and powerful and kill off all the newbies...
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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GM Wyrm
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:37:00 -
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Again, sorry about the short notice. We needed to take it down as soon as possible. We are applying a hotfix as we speak.
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
GM Wyrm
Senior Game Master
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Beeszz
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:38:00 -
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I support CCP to fix an exploit as quick as possible and not let exploiters ruin the whole game.
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:38:00 -
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ye a rollback would be the only way to know for sure, you've caught everyone
This time, i agree with one.
Bjorn Borg :
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autoexec
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:39:00 -
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CCP should have just unplugged the server without any notice instead of that 1 minute notice. We would have
less "OMGWTF1MINUTEWARNINGCCPUSUCKIMCANCELINGMYACCOUNTALONGWITHMYWHOLECORPCUZWEARERETARDED" threads.
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Missa
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Higgous
so ur telling me 1 minute isnt enough to change to a different skill to leave overnight?
Read posts before replying, I didn't get ANY warning at all. I suddenly went from working game to "connection to host lost". Many, many, many people got not warning at all.
--Missa
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 10/02/2005 13:39:48
Originally by: GM Wyrm
Again, sorry about the short notice. We needed to take it down as soon as possible. We are applying a hotfix as we speak.
Off topic, but you look incredibly like me in that tiny photo. Perhaps we are distant relatives?
EDIT: Actually, looking closer, we don't look that similar. :P
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: GM Wyrm
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
Shiney new paint jobs too I hope!!
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Alton
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:41:00 -
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I understand an exploit is around and server had to be down quickly to keep it "controled" so why do people type there little tantrums "im gonna cancel subscription" ? when ccp doing there best to make the game equal to all, kinda sad really with people crying out CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION like they want ccp to write them a personal e-mail asking for them back i guess at the end of the day if you keep leaving games everytime there is a problem then you be soon going back to playing cards LOL
Sorry about this but i needed to say whether its relevant to topic or not
Happy gaming
A.
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Engelious Angelion
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: GM Wyrm
Again, sorry about the short notice. We needed to take it down as soon as possible. We are applying a hotfix as we speak.
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
thanks thats all i needed to know no complaints from me then
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: autoexec
CCP should have just unplugged the server without any notice instead of that 1 minute notice. We would have
less "OMGWTF1MINUTEWARNINGCCPUSUCKIMCANCELINGMYACCOUNTALONGWITHMYWHOLECORPCUZWEARERETARDED" threads.
Actually then we would have gotten the same amount of "OMGWTFWHEREWASMYWARNINGCCPUSUCKIMCANCELINGMYACCOUNTALONGWITHMYWHOLECORPCUZWEARERETARDED" Threats
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: KIAHicks on 10/02/2005 13:43:40
Whatever the exploit was, I hope those who have profited either on purpose or unknowingly (no idea how obvious an exploit it was, as I havn't been on today :P) should have that profit removed.
Either way, I'd rather see a reboot and fix than have another exploit doing the rounds.
A rollback would only be needed if ccp have no way to track those who "benefited" from the exploit. No idea if they can or not, as I have no idea what it is yet.. but I'm sure I'll find out later :)
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Trinilos Bloodnova
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:41:00 -
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Out of curiousity.. when are the servers coming back up? First I ready 20 minutes, then 30, and now it's almost been an hour? Not complaining or anything, I'd just like to know if I can play before hittin' the road.
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Jamin Berry
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:42:00 -
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ur gonna ban the ppl that used the exploit?
oh crap!
onto another of one of my accounts then!
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: GM Wyrm
Again, sorry about the short notice. We needed to take it down as soon as possible. We are applying a hotfix as we speak.
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
Wait a minute here are you certified to be a "space craft" welder? And are you going to use the approved manufacture blue prints? God knows the ships are funky enough now...dont need sombody saying "Well I think this part goes there..."
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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GM Wyrm
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: GM Wyrm
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
Shiney new paint jobs too I hope!!
Yes yes, and a complimentary shine on the chrome.
GM Wyrm
Senior Game Master
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Kikapu
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:45:00 -
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When can we expect it online again?
Kind regards, Kikapu.
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Argonaught
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:46:00 -
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It's at times like this that skills currently training should advance to the next lvl automatically or if at lvl5 should change to a random skill when lvl5 one has finished.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:46:00 -
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What a brilliant time to realize that I don't have a skill training
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Fredbob
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: GM Wyrm
Again, sorry about the short notice. We needed to take it down as soon as possible. We are applying a hotfix as we speak.
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
Have a pat on the back *pats GMs on back*
Maybe if I lose me Temp you can weld it together in the shape of a Raven
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~Fredbob~
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Turix
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:46:00 -
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What about that fancy customised paintwork i had on my ravens hull?
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: GM Wyrm
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Yes yes, and a complimentary shine on the chrome.
Ohh sweet, and a free set of fluffy dice for the inconvenience?
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Missa
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: GM Wyrm
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: GM Wyrm
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
Shiney new paint jobs too I hope!!
Yes yes, and a complimentary shine on the chrome.
I ask this in all seriousness, is there any way that we can get back lost skill time because of the server shutdown due to the hotfix of an exploit?
--Missa
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:47:00 -
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I'm terribly sorry for the lack of grammar in my top post, I was in a bit of a hurry when posting it.
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Caithan
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Argonaught
It's at times like this that skills currently training should advance to the next lvl automatically or if at lvl5 should change to a random skill when lvl5 one has finished.
/signed
I am all for this (90 seconds into training Min cruiser V).
Or not somehow. I think I could live with losing like a couple of hours of skill training time ;)
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Jenna xxCyborg
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: GM Wyrm
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: GM Wyrm
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
Shiney new paint jobs too I hope!!
Yes yes, and a complimentary shine on the chrome.
GO ICELAND YOU CAN DO IT .. I BELIEF IN YOU ... HURRAY
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Missa
I ask this in all seriousness, is there any way that we can get back lost skill time because of the server shutdown due to the hotfix of an exploit?
Skills keep on training during downtimes, if your skill was done before or during then youre prolly out of luck.
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Preying Mantis
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:48:00 -
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Good job i was sitting in the station as I usually do on Eve. At least I think I was, here's to hoping it has'nt done much damage and that if it has the damage can be undone
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Steel Jackal
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Jackal on 10/02/2005 13:48:47
Originally by: GM Wyrm
Again, sorry about the short notice. We needed to take it down as soon as possible. We are applying a hotfix as we speak.
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
LOL
Personally, I think you guys have come along way since June 2003 when I started playing. Content is up and you appear (at least) to be more proactive.
Thanks
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Jamin Berry
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:49:00 -
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{quote]
Have a pat on the back Smile *pats GMs on back*
Maybe if I lose me Temp you can weld it together in the shape of a Raven Laughing
u wudnt want a rusty raven now wud ya?
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Nigel Sheldon
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:49:00 -
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how much longer does anyone know?
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
I'm terribly sorry for the lack of grammar in my top post, I was in a bit of a hurry when posting it.
Post me a case of quafe and all will be forgiven.
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Fredbob
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jamin Berry
{quote]
Have a pat on the back Smile *pats GMs on back*
Maybe if I lose me Temp you can weld it together in the shape of a Raven Laughing
u wudnt want a rusty raven now wud ya?
haha well even a half-built, brown, rusty, cobbled-together Raven would be safer than a Temp
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~Fredbob~
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Hunt Smacker
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:51:00 -
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Quote:
What a brilliant time to realize that I don't have a skill training
I wouldn't worry - I've lost about 4 days of training because I've forgot about it/was in a rush and didn't have time before going out etc.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:51:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Nigel Sheldon
how much longer does anyone know?
Not to long i hope, my hands are starting to shake.
2 downtimes a day is bad for the health.
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Keav
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:51:00 -
[77]
The latest from the Game Login screen is that the server will be back up by 15:00 GMT at the latest.
Keav.net |
Sternburg Export
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:51:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Sternburg Export on 10/02/2005 13:51:40
user ************* has been disabled
Last Login: 2004.12.30 02:47
Number of Visits: 1772
reason: Account Expired
Damn...
Can¦t log on to singularity (sisi ) 
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Jamin Berry
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:52:00 -
[79]
indeed
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Missa
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:52:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Missa on 10/02/2005 13:52:02
Originally by: Nigel Sheldon
how much longer does anyone know?
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie-pop? ...The world may never know.
--Missa
New Siggy to Come Soon(tm) |
WiZZyWiGG
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:53:00 -
[81]
Edited by: WiZZyWiGG on 10/02/2005 13:53:54
Edited by: WiZZyWiGG on 10/02/2005 13:53:39
Looks like its due back at 1500 GMT.
Doh beaten to it :)
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:53:00 -
[82]
They tell me the server will be up before 1500 GMT/EVE Time.
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DeathSpawn66
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:54:00 -
[83]
What time is that for eastern standard time?
-The Loveable Nub |
Kikapu
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:54:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Argonaught
It's at times like this that skills currently training should advance to the next lvl automatically or if at lvl5 should change to a random skill when lvl5 one has finished.
There were 2 cows standing in a field then the one said: "MOOH". The other cow then said: "OMG, i got wtfpwned, that was what i was going to say".
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:54:00 -
[85]
(No idea of actual bug/exploit, just random thoughts)
So basically people have acquired items through market in excess numbers and/or lowered prices, since point of time x.
1. Therefore it should be investigated if the point of time x can be traced.
2. After that it is necessary to investigate if the transactions can be traced from the point of time x.
3. Then it's time to analyze if the removal of those transactions can be handled in timely fashion. (Got 2 items, sold one, one you sold to sold it again, used the money to buy something.. and soforth)
4. If it's not timeworthy, then it's decision time for rollback.
5. If it's rollback time, it's time to decide if it's the "point of time x" or some point of time after it (and analyze the transactions between time x -> rollback)
So we'll be waiting this day.. guess cpp is in crisis meeting.
SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR |
Alton
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:55:00 -
[86]
I understand an exploit is around and server had to be down quickly to keep it "controled" so why do people type there little tantrums "im gonna cancel subscription" ? when ccp doing there best to make the game equal to all, kinda sad really with people crying out CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION like they want ccp to write them a personal e-mail asking for them back i guess at the end of the day if you keep leaving games everytime there is a problem then you be soon going back to playing cards LOL
Sorry about this but i needed to say whether its relevant to topic or not
Happy gaming
A.
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DeathSpawn66
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:55:00 -
[87]
and completely off topic how do you create your profile on here so it shows my corp n all that fun stuff.
-The Loveable Nub |
Jags
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:55:00 -
[88]
Rollback please then i get to do Gone Beserk again :D
BSKillingTastic Fun
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Nigel Sheldon
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:55:00 -
[89]
so anyone know any good jokes?
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Longortha
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:56:00 -
[90]
For those that are cancelling their subscriptions, sounds to me like you're ****ed you didn't get a chance to utilize the exploit and now you're jealous. Gimmie a break!
I've worked on a network server with just three remotes. All wireless, spread over about 15 square miles. In the deserts of Iraq. Where Iraqi's tried breaking in all the time. Some were successful, most weren't. We were always taking the server down to check the integritity of the server, correct weaknesses and assess unauthorized accesses. Funny how the only people who complained were the immature people. Have some respect for the way CCP is trying to fix this situation. Be patient and be glad that CCP has enough respect for US, the gamers, to actually be on top of things. They will do their best to make things right.
Until you've tried running a game based on a WAN, keep your little whinny crap to yourself.
The only thing you will see me cry about on here is if the peeps who used the exploits don't get permanently BANNED from this game. 
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Soulah
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:56:00 -
[91]
No doubt your gonna get a flame from mod for breaking rule XX of speakin of an exploit, but I agree with and think your line of questioning is fair and deserves and answer also :)
hirr today..
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Kikapu
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:57:00 -
[92]
Originally by: DeathSpawn66
and completely off topic how do you create your profile on here so it shows my corp n all that fun stuff.
under forums, to ur left. its called "settings"
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marshal123
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:58:00 -
[93]
ok can i just say why is everyone praising ccp for closing an exploit.. when if they had done there job properly there wouldnt be one to start with,, just another of ccp's co** ups which have been so comon over the last couple of months.. i will save my congratulations for when i get some uninterupted game time, and yes i am still bitter for the loss of yesterdays mission bonus ccp sort this mess out please this game could be great if it werent so fuc*** up...
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Nigel Sheldon
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:58:00 -
[94]
any jokes
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Soulah
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:58:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Longortha
For those that are cancelling their subscriptions, sounds to me like you're ****ed you didn't get a chance to utilize the exploit and now you're jealous. Gimmie a break!
I've worked on a network server with just three remotes. All wireless, spread over about 15 square miles. In the deserts of Iraq. Where Iraqi's tried breaking in all the time. Some were successful, most weren't. We were always taking the server down to check the integritity of the server, correct weaknesses and assess unauthorized accesses. Funny how the only people who complained were the immature people. Have some respect for the way CCP is trying to fix this situation. Be patient and be glad that CCP has enough respect for US, the gamers, to actually be on top of things. They will do their best to make things right.
Until you've tried running a game based on a WAN, keep your little whinny crap to yourself.
The only thing you will see me cry about on here is if the peeps who used the exploits don't get permanently BANNED from this game.
LOL.. O...K who gives a **** about your network lmao?
hirr today..
..gone tomorrow |
w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:58:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Steven Dynahir
4. If it's not timeworthy, then it's decision time for rollback.
1 hour of our gametime, vs xx hours of their time.
Personaly, id rather see the rollback, and leave their time to other stuff. That is unless their time involved in rollback is greater than their time in doing something along the lines of your suggestion.
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Jenna xxCyborg
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:00:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Keav
The latest from the Game Login screen is that the server will be back up by 15:00 GMT at the latest.
What !! 15:00 man why?? i have to go at 15:00 if the server would be online i would of have played from 12-15 but noooo the server booted me 59 times and then they shut it down ...
BTW why dont you move the downtime and patch releases at early morning or late at night ... its anoying when you have it in midday 
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TheHerbster
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:00:00 -
[98]
Yeah the thing is, I was just testing my new Jove Battleship and the server died... if it's not there in space when I get back on... well, there will be hell to pay.
Don't worry sir!! They couldn't hit an elephant at this ra..... |
Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:01:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Steven Dynahir
(No idea of actual bug/exploit, just random thoughts)
So basically people have acquired items through market in excess numbers and/or lowered prices, since point of time x.
1. Therefore it should be investigated if the point of time x can be traced.
2. After that it is necessary to investigate if the transactions can be traced from the point of time x.
3. Then it's time to analyze if the removal of those transactions can be handled in timely fashion. (Got 2 items, sold one, one you sold to sold it again, used the money to buy something.. and soforth)
4. If it's not timeworthy, then it's decision time for rollback.
5. If it's rollback time, it's time to decide if it's the "point of time x" or some point of time after it (and analyze the transactions between time x -> rollback)
So we'll be waiting this day.. guess cpp is in crisis meeting.
I think the bug has been in the market since downtime.
*snip*
Personally a rollback wouldnt bother me, im missing my bonus because all of this so perhaps ill get another shot at it
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little sister
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:04:00 -
[100]
11:00 till 12:00...I love it, its when I'm at work. Thank you iceland! for being where you are!! And using London as your Server HQ!!
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:04:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Jenna xxCyborg
BTW why dont you move the downtime and patch releases at early morning or late at night ... its anoying when you have it in midday
DT is midnight here, its CCP's way of tucking me into bed
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Alton
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:06:00 -
[102]
Personally i have never heard of ANY game which has had no updates most games need updates sometime or another due to problems with original. Unfortunately for online games which i believe? are slightly more complex and can be fully upgraded for the better (like to Exodus) are bound to have bugs in it. So i take all those who moaned and whined about bugs and crap will be moaning and whining yet again for the next big exodus'y thing? lmao
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:06:00 -
[103]
Seems like TQ is starting up.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:08:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Wrangler
There was a quick server reboot today to prevent an exploit.
And for those of you who doesn't read all posts before you reply, here's what GM Wyrm posted on page 3.
Originally by: GM Wyrm
Again, sorry about the short notice. We needed to take it down as soon as possible. We are applying a hotfix as we speak.
If you log back in and find yourself in a pod, send us a petition through the Ask A Question page and we will find the scrap metal that used to be your ship weld it back together.
Latest ETA for server to be back up is at some point before 1500GMT/EVE Time.
You cheated :( you edited your post without the 'Edit' thing in there... h4x!
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Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Katjia
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:08:00 -
[105]
dt is 2-3 am for me....tries to figure out where wormy is located...middle of the pacific?
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:09:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Katjia
dt is 2-3 am for me....tries to figure out where wormy is located...middle of the pacific?
Aotearoa, Land of the Long White Cloud
AKA New Zealand
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GM Wyrm
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:10:00 -
[107]
Tranquility is starting up again now.
GM Wyrm
Senior Game Master
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Lazydog
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:10:00 -
[108]
this is gonna be interesting........
will the fit hit the shan
or will the email server go down!
I aint flippin bothered
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Nigel Sheldon
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:10:00 -
[109]
YEAH 300 seconds till start up
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:10:00 -
[110]
Quote:
I think the bug has been in the market since downtime.
If that's the case, rollback+fix would be optimal solution.
SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR |
Missa
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:11:00 -
[111]
....quickly....must skillchange...before server goes down again for hotfix 2...
I guess ty at least for not making us wait another hour.
--Missa
New Siggy to Come Soon(tm) |
Hanilein
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:12:00 -
[112]
I simply cannot understand, why it is so hard to say "we have a problem with the market/missions/mining/pvp". That would'nt give anyone the possibility to cheat but instead calm down the rumours. BTW - using the scissors leaves holes - and those are informative too.
Censorship succs.
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Balancing doesn't mean to equal every fitting, it means
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Jenna xxCyborg
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:12:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Wrangler
They tell me the server will be up before 1500 GMT/EVE Time.
What happend ? plz explain what is an exploit ? What was the stuff that made everything crasy?
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:13:00 -
[114]
Please don't discuss the exploit, read forum rule 13.
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Ztone Harvestor
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:13:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Ztone Harvestor on 10/02/2005 14:19:02
Edited so I don't get silenced again :(
- Ztone |
Jenna xxCyborg
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:14:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Ztone Harvestor
Oh BTW Wyrm, I bought 50 Strip Miner I's and 50 Ice Harvester I's on Singularity this morning after they rebooted after the 'hotfix' and I never got them... if this happens on tranquility there is going to be serious problems
ARG
ARRGGG i bought stuff to i hope it will be there :/ I made many jumps to have it
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Longortha
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:15:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Soulah
Originally by: Longortha
For those that are cancelling their subscriptions, sounds to me like you're ****ed you didn't get a chance to utilize the exploit and now you're jealous. Gimmie a break!
I've worked on a network server with just three remotes. All wireless, spread over about 15 square miles. In the deserts of Iraq. Where Iraqi's tried breaking in all the time. Some were successful, most weren't. We were always taking the server down to check the integritity of the server, correct weaknesses and assess unauthorized accesses. Funny how the only people who complained were the immature people. Have some respect for the way CCP is trying to fix this situation. Be patient and be glad that CCP has enough respect for US, the gamers, to actually be on top of things. They will do their best to make things right.
Until you've tried running a game based on a WAN, keep your little whinny crap to yourself.
The only thing you will see me cry about on here is if the peeps who used the exploits don't get permanently BANNED from this game.
LOL.. O...K who gives a **** about your network lmao?
Evidently you do since you made a post about it fool.
I used my experience on a very small network in an attempt to illustrate that it's time consuming and quite difficult to keep one running when you have peeps taking advantage of weaknesses instead of reporting them. Now I never expected Iraqi's to report weaknesses, but it sure would be nice if the disgusting little cheaters of the world didn't cause us so many problems by taking advantage of things in this game.
And if you don't have something intelligent and constructive to say, don't remove all doubt as to your stupidity by opening your mouth little child.
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Soulah
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:16:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Soulah on 10/02/2005 14:17:15
Yes then you finish your post saying youll cry if the people who managed to abuse it arent permanently banned. lol. Isnt that what your saying you dont wanna hear then spammin about "the" server no one cares about lol.
hirr today..
..gone tomorrow |
Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:17:00 -
[119]
Play nice or uncle Wrangler will punish you a bit.
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |
Longortha
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:18:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Soulah
Edited by: Soulah on 10/02/2005 14:17:15
Yes then you finish your post saying youll cry if the people who managed to abuse it arent permanently banned. lol. Isnt that what your saying you dont wanna hear then spammin about "the" server no one cares about lol.
OK. Let me break it down for you Barney style. Have something worth complaining about. Something that is of substance and not beyond the reasonable control of CCP. Get it now?
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:19:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Wrangler
Play nice or uncle Wrangler will punish you a bit.
Yes plz...
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Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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C4w3
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:19:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Wrangler
Play nice or uncle Wrangler will punish you a bit.
mmmm punish mmm what do you have in mind sweetie ;0)
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
Longortha
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:19:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Wrangler
Play nice or uncle Wrangler will punish you a bit.
Ooops. Sorry about the last post then. Was posting it as you posted your warning.
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Shocky
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:20:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Shocky on 10/02/2005 14:20:33
I think they should name and shame all the people that used the exploit as well as punish them of course.
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Longortha
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:21:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Shocky
Edited by: Shocky on 10/02/2005 14:20:33
I think they should name and shame all the people that used the exploit as well as punish them of course.
I agree.
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Zel0ta
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:22:00 -
[126]
OMFGILOVEEVEIAMNEVERLEAVINGFORWOWCUSIPLAYEDIABLOANDGOTTOLVL99ANDAFTERTHATIHATEDGAMESLIKETHAT
!!WOOPE!!
wow 4 teh nub EvE 4 teh WIN!
I havent slept for 32 HOURS NOW but im on my pills BUT 32 HOURS WOHOO im doing.....GREAT! |
GM Wyrm
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:23:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Jenna xxCyborg
Originally by: Ztone Harvestor
Oh BTW Wyrm, I bought 50 Strip Miner I's and 50 Ice Harvester I's on Singularity this morning after they rebooted after the 'hotfix' and I never got them... if this happens on tranquility there is going to be serious problems
ARG
ARRGGG i bought stuff to i hope it will be there :/ I made many jumps to have it
Singularity was like that for a few minutes while we were still in the process of applying the hotfix to it. That won't happen on TQ.
GM Wyrm
Senior Game Master
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flummox
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:28:00 -
[128]
information, please. this "see rule 13" in the dark thing is getting old. a lot of curious people who p(l)ay this game would like to know what EXACTLY is going on in their world they love. if an attrocity has been committed, we would like to know about it.
good work on squashing it. just keep your whips for the people who deserve it. not those simply asking for information.
flummox
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
Longortha
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:28:00 -
[129]
Heh. All my stuff is still where I left it. Thanks for the hard work guys.
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Necronomicon
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:28:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Necronomicon on 10/02/2005 14:29:00
My 2 Cents
Exlpoits (once fixed) should be explained to the gaming community, also the people found to have taken advantage should be named and shamwed (and banned)
This whole "Thou shalt not discuss anything in the game" mentality of CCP is very dictorial and makes us feel like mushrooms. You can admit that you make mistakes/bugs so why not give us a bit more info?
EDIT : Damn it Flummox, you beat me to it
Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them. |
Amaron Ghant
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:29:00 -
[131]
Fixing an exploit? Nice. what about the ccp exploit, whereby they remove money from your account every month, wave the eula in your face and frolick in the snow whilst snickering about corporation tax and the lack of it in game?
Please excuse the acidity of my comments, it would appear that my medication is losing it's effectiveness the longer the question of CORPORATION TAX is ignored.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:30:00 -
[132]
Once it's confirmed that it is fixed I'll see what I can do about telling you what it was, but that isn't up to me. I'm just a overworked and underpaid poor forum moderator, doing his best to survive in an harsh and unforgiving world.
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |
Amaron Ghant
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:31:00 -
[133]
More quafe for Wrangler please :) |
Lettuce Prey
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:31:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Jamin Berry
indeed
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" the only thing i used IE for was downloading mozilla"
this is way off topic, but i love that sig.
nuff sed |
flummox
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:32:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Wrangler
Once it's confirmed that it is fixed I'll see what I can do about telling you what it was, but that isn't up to me. I'm just a overworked and underpaid poor forum moderator, doing his best to survive in an harsh and unforgiving world.
TL2 Tissue?
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
hired goon
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:33:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Longortha
Now I never expected Iraqi's to report weaknesses
Lol! That just put a really funny image in my mind
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:34:00 -
[137]
Reposted here just for Wrangler :)
This is not a complaint, a whine, just a serious question as to whats going to happen regarding this issue. Ive read the rules and im trying to tiptoe round them without stubbing my toe, but I do feel this is a serious enough issue and needs to be queried and addressed.
Have those who gained unfair advantage had the advantage reversed? Or will this be being done over the next period?
I only ask this as an item I got prior to petition this, is still there. If I havent had it reversed, it concerns me that others havent also? There are also another couple of issues regarding it I still see, but I will not discuss them here.
I only ask here on the forums, instead of petition as I think everyone will be interested in the answer, and i didnt wish to clog the petition queue anymore.
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Ztone Harvestor
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:34:00 -
[138]
Originally by: GM Wyrm
Originally by: Jenna xxCyborg
Originally by: Ztone Harvestor
Oh BTW Wyrm, I bought 50 Strip Miner I's and 50 Ice Harvester I's on Singularity this morning after they rebooted after the 'hotfix' and I never got them... if this happens on tranquility there is going to be serious problems
ARG
ARRGGG i bought stuff to i hope it will be there :/ I made many jumps to have it
Singularity was like that for a few minutes while we were still in the process of applying the hotfix to it. That won't happen on TQ.
Hopefully I can get that ISK refunded to buy more :|
- Ztone |
Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:36:00 -
[139]
w0rmy, I've asked, but I haven't gotten an answer, I'll keep asking and post when/if I get one. Or someone else might post.
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |
w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:40:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Wrangler
w0rmy, I've asked, but I haven't gotten an answer, I'll keep asking and post when/if I get one. Or someone else might post.
Thats cool, I didnt expect an answer right away, I just wanted to assure it was bought to the attention of the people involved.
I'm sure the devs are aware of all the facts, but a reminder notice never hurts. We all miss even obvious things at times
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:41:00 -
[141]
Someone told me the petition system is manned by an elderly couple. I have to ask though, in light of this recent crisis, will they be getting a hand from other staff members? Or just be left and expected to manage?
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Schroni
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:42:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Fixing an exploit? Nice. what about the ccp exploit, whereby they remove money from your account every month, wave the eula in your face and frolick in the snow whilst snickering about corporation tax and the lack of it in game?
buhuu?
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foster
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:43:00 -
[143]
Edited by: foster on 10/02/2005 14:43:29
Originally by: Wrangler
Play nice or uncle Wrangler will punish you a bit.
in a good way?, bad way? or that seedy way everyone enjoys but will not admit to
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:47:00 -
[144]
There's some news about it.
Originally by: Oveur
We had to take Tranquility down to address an severely exploitable situation. We found the bug causing the market exploit and were back up 80 minutes later. We are now working on reversing the damage. We apologize for the downtime and hope you understand the need for drastic measures under circumstances like this.
[Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators] |
pardux
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:48:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Zel0ta
OMFGILOVEEVEIAMNEVERLEAVINGFORWOWCUSIPLAYEDIABLOANDGOTTOLVL99
ANDAFTERTHATIHATEDGAMESLIKETHAT
!!WOOPE!!
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Amaron Ghant
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Schroni
Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Fixing an exploit? Nice. what about the ccp exploit, whereby they remove money from your account every month, wave the eula in your face and frolick in the snow whilst snickering about corporation tax and the lack of it in game?
buhuu?
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Schroni
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Ahhhh schools out I see.
yep, like 9 years ago
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:57:00 -
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I will delete the locked threads to clear up the first page of this forum.
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flummox
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Posted - 2005.02.10 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
I will delete the locked threads to clear up the first page of this forum.
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Fabiusbile
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Posted - 2005.02.10 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
w0rmy, I've asked, but I haven't gotten an answer, I'll keep asking and post when/if I get one. Or someone else might post.
if some one else posts what the exploit was will they be in trouble?
if some one posts where to find out about the post will they be in trouble?
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harriet
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Posted - 2005.02.10 15:11:00 -
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I reported this bug yesterday, although it was on test server.
Is there gonna be a rollback, as some people could have made millions from it, while honest people have allowed you to correct the situation quickly, and with minimal damage to market/economy.
A large mining barge fully equipped with t2 strip miners would be nice
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Fabiusbile
Originally by: Wrangler
w0rmy, I've asked, but I haven't gotten an answer, I'll keep asking and post when/if I get one. Or someone else might post.
if some one else posts what the exploit was will they be in trouble?
if some one posts where to find out about the post will they be in trouble?
Posting about an exploit can result in a warning or a ban. If you post a link to a place, or a description on how to find it, it will be regarded as if you would have posted about it.
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Fabiusbile
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Posted - 2005.02.10 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Fabiusbile
Originally by: Wrangler
w0rmy, I've asked, but I haven't gotten an answer, I'll keep asking and post when/if I get one. Or someone else might post.
if some one else posts what the exploit was will they be in trouble?
if some one posts where to find out about the post will they be in trouble?
Posting about an exploit can result in a warning or a ban. If you post a link to a place, or a description on how to find it, it will be regarded as if you would have posted about it.
thanks Wrangler, i'll keep my mouth firmly shut.
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Alicomb
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Posted - 2005.02.10 15:32:00 -
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I missed all the fun, what exactly happened what was this exploit?
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.02.10 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Alicomb
I missed all the fun, what exactly happened what was this exploit?
Unfortunately, nobody can actually tell anyone on the forum since that's against the rules. However, thinking logically, it had to be something extremely important if they decided to pull the server down as soon as they found out about it. Be glad that they got it sorted.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 16:18:00 -
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It was a market related exploit.
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Fabiusbile
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Posted - 2005.02.10 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
It was a market related exploit.
question: seeing as the "exploit" has been fixed can you tell the rest of us what it was ?
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fabiusbile
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.02.10 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
It was a market related exploit.
Wasn't it more of a bug since some people unknowingly did it, although the people that realised what was happening exploited it?
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.02.10 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Fabiusbile
Originally by: Wrangler
It was a market related exploit.
question: seeing as the "exploit" has been fixed can you tell the rest of us what it was ?
Sorry, but "market related exploit" is all I can say.
Originally by: Soren
Originally by: Wrangler
It was a market related exploit.
Wasn't it more of a bug since some people unknowingly did it, although the people that realised what was happening exploited it?
It's both, since a bug is a design flaw of some kind and a exploit is when you get an unintentional advantage from that bug.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.02.10 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 10/02/2005 16:37:47
There's also a difference between people getting one or two items accidentally from it (bug) and people abusing the bug hundreds of times in an hour (exploit).
Leave the first lot's ISK alone (unlikely to have really gained much, if at all - and no, I wasn't even ON just before the reboot and have no idea what the bug is) and go for the exploiters.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.02.10 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 10/02/2005 17:49:50
...and here I was thinking that there was something wrong with General Discussion, only 2 stickes, but it appears that it's been taken care of
(Didn't want to start a new thread about it so I posted it in an existing one...)
Ok back on topic : Good that you keep us updated and stuff. It was probably the right decision to bring the server down.
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.02.10 18:15:00 -
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It's kinda like this: imagine yourself working in the field, just doing your usual thing, then suddenly you notice a wallet on the ground. You pick it up, it has money. Do you put it down where you find it? do your keep it? do you report a found wallet?
Keeping the wallet would be rather selfish of you, but would you get arrested for it? would police confiscate that wallet? nah Would the police put you in jail for telling others where you found the wallet? nah
Anyway, once the bug has been fixed, letting people know about it should be okay.
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2005.02.10 18:38:00 -
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I am still curious as to thejustification behind the secrecy on exploits once they're fixed. Surely once it's fixed it is a good news item to say this was what went wrong, this is what we did to fix it. Everyone loves a good gossip and i'm sure this type of thing as these posts prove is a massive opportunity to have a good gossip. If its fixed then no harm can come of it surely?
I am not expecting an official comment from anyone on this but I am curious if anyone can think of a reason why this policy is as it is? Just curious really as I can't but there again i ain't always the genius i like to think i am
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Lochlann
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Posted - 2005.02.10 18:48:00 -
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Ever hear of the phrase - "Don't give them any bright ideas?"
That's essentially CCP Games trying to protect their assets and everyone's account. Don't question it. Don't talk about it. Thats their policy, and it's the one everyone agreed to when they started the game for the first time (and after every patch). If you don't appreciate the terms they have set forth then it's simple: stop playing and cancel your subscriptions.
Most likely no matter what MUD/MMORPG you play, each one has a similiar clause concerning exploits.
Security through obscurity, no matter how feeble, does have small merit.
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.02.10 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 10/02/2005 21:41:09
Originally by: Maya Rkell
There's also a difference between people getting one or two items accidentally from it (bug) and people abusing the bug hundreds of times in an hour (exploit).
I hope, that the logs show, who excessively abused this bug. In my opinion, they and their alts should loose everything except a rookie ship. Then they can decide for themselves, if they want to work hard to get everything back or give up. They thought that gaining an advantage from this bug is ok, so they shouldn't complain, if they loose some stuff instead
BTW. Shutting the servers down after only one minute was a good decision. Even if I had lost my battleship, I would still say, that the decision to react immediatly was right. And everybody can petition a ship loss due to this anyway.
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Basileus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 21:49:00 -
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What I would have given just to see the guy in charge go "OMFG" when he noticed.
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