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Quistis Noir
The Lotus Edge
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Florestan Bronstein Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 22/06/2011 06:48:58
Some example for microtransactions in other games I play/used to play:
WoW (EU): Celestial Steed: 20 Ç
LoL (EU): any legendary skin: 1,820 RP ~ 9.7-10.8 Ç
WoT (US): Lowe tank: 7,500 gold ~ 30-41$
except for the monocle CCP's pricing does not seem to be grossly out of line for microtransactions...
The examples you gave are the high end premium items for those games. Their micro-transaction stores also have items on the low scale which start you paying money for in game items, gateway items you could say. When the average item in your store costs about the same as the premium items in other games, it says something may be off. And there are no gateway items in the store. I could buy 5$ boots which dont look that much different from ones that are available for free, and which no-one else but me will see, or I could buy multiple characters in LoL which I wouldnt have access to otherwise and open up more gameplay for me.
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Xervish Krin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:03:00 -
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Agreed, this is utterly ridiculous. I supported Incarna, I supported microtransactions, but I'll be damned if I'm paying ú15 for a virtual shirt. Well done CCP, you've proven the naysayers right.
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RensPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:03:00 -
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One more reason to laugh at the people who actually buy this stuff.
Thats the fun part of CCPs microtransactions integration. People pay premium dollars to make themselves a laughingstock. |
Pok Nibin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:04:00 -
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Well...maybe we have to take into account they're in Iceland and in Iceland, as we saw oh too recently, the concept of "economics" is considerably different than commonly shared in civilized countries.
After all, I heard they were paying $15,000 US for a pound of whale meat just before the UK threatened to invade.
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The Doctorz
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:05:00 -
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After just seeing what all the fuss is about, perhaps this is an issue of wrong wording/definitions. I would surmise that these are of course not micro-transactions in any form and majority of the anger is the usage of this term alone. The price is evidence of that as many before me have pointed out that a micro payment is a few dollars at best. These are premium status symbols of the affluent part of eve players, optional extras == extravagance that adds nothing more than pure vanity to those people who have large wads of disposable real income and want the chance to display that wealth in the eve society. Ofc they can be traded in for ISK so those who care for a monocle can pay the iskies for it.
However luxury items will naturally be about quality and lower "boutique style" sales over bulk micro sales therefore naturally not appealing to the majority of us as demonstrated here (many of us will naturally not care for vanity at whatever price point is set) and that is the philosophy behind vanity items, they have no function other than psychological status symbols. So the rage might actually be a sign they got exactly the price point they wanted, imagine seeing a monocle on a character in local and podding him heh, who wont be calling them primary or pirating them knowing their iskies are probably plex funded.
I wont be buying a monocle ever or a nice frock for my alt but I would kinda smile if did have tonnes of $$$ (i dont ) and i saw people spitting feathers as I strolled through a station in future expansions wearing a gentleman's attire and monocle having paid for several NPC bots to follow me around, two lovely hunnies in each arm and an announcer who will announce my entry to any bar with a trumpet fanfaire. Being able to make people rage just by doing that would be funny to me at least.
(someone buy me a monocle!)
/2cents.
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Spacing Cowboy
Caldari Rule of Five Split Infinity.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:05:00 -
[726]
This is causing a mayor spike on the forum-whine index ccp, Dont forget to show it on the next fanfest.
Wonder if we see the same faces there next year tho
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:06:00 -
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Edited by: Morphisat on 22/06/2011 07:06:25 Makes you wonder what the reskinned Scorpion would have cost ? $100,- ? .
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Kingofpewpew
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:07:00 -
[728]
I rarely post... but this stupidity in CCP is beyond anything I seen before
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Benilopax
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:08:00 -
[729]
Originally by: The Doctorz After just seeing what all the fuss is about, perhaps this is an issue of wrong wording/definitions. I would surmise that these are of course not micro-transactions in any form and majority of the anger is the usage of this term alone. The price is evidence of that as many before me have pointed out that a micro payment is a few dollars at best. These are premium status symbols of the affluent part of eve players, optional extras == extravagance that adds nothing more than pure vanity to those people who have large wads of disposable real income and want the chance to display that wealth in the eve society. Ofc they can be traded in for ISK so those who care for a monocle can pay the iskies for it.
However luxury items will naturally be about quality and lower "boutique style" sales over bulk micro sales therefore naturally not appealing to the majority of us as demonstrated here (many of us will naturally not care for vanity at whatever price point is set) and that is the philosophy behind vanity items, they have no function other than psychological status symbols. So the rage might actually be a sign they got exactly the price point they wanted, imagine seeing a monocle on a character in local and podding him heh, who wont be calling them primary or pirating them knowing their iskies are probably plex funded.
I wont be buying a monocle ever or a nice frock for my alt but I would kinda smile if did have tonnes of $$$ (i dont ) and i saw people spitting feathers as I strolled through a station in future expansions wearing a gentleman's attire and monocle having paid for several NPC bots to follow me around, two lovely hunnies in each arm and an announcer who will announce my entry to any bar with a trumpet fanfaire. Being able to make people rage just by doing that would be funny to me at least.
(someone buy me a monocle!)
/2cents.
I will not be impressed or intimidated by anyone who spent 4 months worth of game time in isk or rl cash, if anything I will laugh at how pathetic they are and try to kill them all the same. The only thing that intimidates me is their piloting skill. ----------------------------------- New Eden Chronicles: Prime, Coming soon. |
Syphon Lodian
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:08:00 -
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If anyone buys these items with the price they are at now, I will find you, and I will punch you in your damn face. ------------------------------------------------- Go pod yourself. |
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Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:11:00 -
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So much idiocy and ignorance in this thread I don't know where to look anymore.
Did any of you actually stop and think that the pricing might NOT be deliberate but perhaps will change once the expansion is out and the dust settles?
I suppose to stop and actually think takes too much work from the lonely brain cell most of you idiots have occupying that sticky membrane inside your skulls.
Wait and see what happens. Wait for a representative from CCP to clarify the situation. Right now you're worse than the WoW crowd and that is disgusting behaviour indeed. I'm really ashamed of this so-called community at present.
æIf you are not big enough to lose, then you are not big enough to win.Æ |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:15:00 -
[732]
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin Did any of you actually stop and think that the pricing might NOT be deliberate
Considering that the CCP reps have said it is deliberate, why would anyone stop and think that?
Quote: Wait and see what happens. Wait for a representative from CCP to clarify the situation.
They already have. Read the thread. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
CyberGh0st
Minmatar Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:16:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 22/06/2011 07:17:08
Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Actually I'm laughing at the subtle sales technique.
1 PLEX = 3,500 Aurum aaaand.. wait for it.. "Women's 'Impress' Skirt": 3,600 Aurum!
Yeah lol, I thought wow 3500 Aurum, they may even seduce me, one of the biggest haters of microtransaction. I mean wtf is the point splitting a plex into 3500 Aurum and then charge the full amount and then some? Might as well have just charged plexes for it ...
Actually I am glad, this will fail soo hard :p
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE / EVE Pre-Microtransactions |
Benilopax
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Aderata Nonkin So much idiocy and ignorance in this thread I don't know where to look anymore.
Did any of you actually stop and think that the pricing might NOT be deliberate but perhaps will change once the expansion is out and the dust settles?
I suppose to stop and actually think takes too much work from the lonely brain cell most of you idiots have occupying that sticky membrane inside your skulls.
Wait and see what happens. Wait for a representative from CCP to clarify the situation. Right now you're worse than the WoW crowd and that is disgusting behaviour indeed. I'm really ashamed of this so-called community at present.
We did think that, then CCP stated that the price was intentional in the in-game help channel last night. Read around page 10 for CCP's comments on the prices. ----------------------------------- New Eden Chronicles: Prime, Coming soon. |
Rico Minali
Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:17:00 -
[735]
Hmmm, Do I buy a monacle, or a FULLY FITTED CARRIER? Insane.
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TheImpossibleDream
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:17:00 -
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I'm a sexy virtual girl ( read : RL fat bold programmer ), can i sell my clothes and walk naked in captain quarters ? wow this incarna will surely look great !
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Did any of you actually stop and think that the pricing might NOT be deliberate but perhaps will change once the expansion is out and the dust settles?
If the pricing was an accident, and they let this out the door by mistake, then might I suggest pointing the idiot finger elsewhere. The places I have worked, 'accidents' like this are a ticket to an escorted walk out of the building.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ |
Hemp Invader
Inverted Worlds
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:20:00 -
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I think a real life monocle is less expensive than this piece of **** virtual monocle.
Just my 2 cents. (which CCP translates into...just my 12.000 aurum)
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Bumbaclaat
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Bumbaclaat on 22/06/2011 07:25:16 I think there's an important overriding point that's being missed here. EVE players are some of the most intelligent gamers on the planet. We're not Xbox Live and we make carefully considered purchasing decisions.
In that sense, EVE has trained us all to be budding economists - to make careful decisions about what is really worth the money and what is not. No one, and I mean no one, is going to buy any of this stuff unless the price comes down to 1/10th of what it is.
Even the muppets of Xbox Live wouldn't pay $60 for a master chief hat for their avatar... which is why that only costs a dollar. It's as much as you can charge for something that does nothing. I'm stunned that CCP is trying to charge these prices. Literally stunned.
But I will be more stunned if anyone buys any of them.
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jowming
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:24:00 -
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Edited by: jowming on 22/06/2011 07:25:22 huh this would make sence if we could jackinto our pc's like in the matrix or something but as of now. no it does not make a bit of sence why someone would pay that much for a vertual item
man my spelling and sentence making may be bad but when it comes to budgeting and marketing i dont fall for these dam tricks may be why i like games like eve and not wow
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Rex Nefarius
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:25:00 -
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I fail to see the problem with the prices beeing too high. About 1b isk for the priciest item, sounds maybe a little low instead for beeing eve. They are called vanity items, they are not for the poor rabble flying around outside jita 4-4.
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Hyperforce99
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:27:00 -
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And I thought the sparkle pony in WOW or the ability to color my triple top hat in team fortress 2's MANCO (4$ for a one time only paintjob) was expensive...
CCP, have you gone off the deep end. Microtransactions implies its MICRO, small miniscule amounts of money for a vanity item, NOT 4 MONTHS WORTH OF GAME TIME!!!! --------------------------------------------- Somewhere beyond happyness and sadness, I need to calculate what creates my own madness o/ |
Shereza
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Nefarius I fail to see the problem with the prices beeing too high. About 1b isk for the priciest item, sounds maybe a little low instead for beeing eve. They are called vanity items, they are not for the poor rabble flying around outside jita 4-4.
Hey, the poor are allowed to be vain too! I mean come on, what self-respecting bum would sleep in McDonald's Trash when he could get access to trash from Wendy's?
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Julian Assagne
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:29:00 -
[744]
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Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:31:00 -
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ú12.50 for a virtual T-Shirt I lose when I die in game? AWESOME I WILL SPEND THAT RIGHT NOW!
Or I might go on Amazon and buy a real t-shirt...
CCP, are failing hardcore these days.
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Xander Hunt
Minmatar Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Did any of you actually stop and think that the pricing might NOT be deliberate but perhaps will change once the expansion is out and the dust settles?
If the pricing was an accident, and they let this out the door by mistake, then might I suggest pointing the idiot finger elsewhere. The places I have worked, 'accidents' like this are a ticket to an escorted walk out of the building.
I wouldn't say its a permanent (My word, not yours) escort out, but a "Adjust the database tables, wait until DT, client re-downloads the new prices, and take the week off unpaid".
I work in a company who offers software world wide. I've seen this kind of crap happen before, and normally its an accident. Considering this patch was started at 7am and finished towards midnight, they may have not noticed this adjustment, people are sleeping as its been a long day, etc, etc.
AFAIK, CCP isn't a 24/7/365 kind of company. They're offices are closed, so we'll just have to wait and see.
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Amber Helfer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:34:00 -
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25 pages of anger and no blue response to explain the pricing.. I was thinking i would actually use the noble exchange.. at these prices i wont bother.
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Biltic Creen
Minmatar Shattered Reality
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:34:00 -
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Just passing by to agree with everybody that said "This is ****ed up!!!" so far _____
This post is not my personal opinion. It does represent the standpoint of every single player ! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Turelus ú12.50 for a virtual T-Shirt I lose when I die in game? AWESOME I WILL SPEND THAT RIGHT NOW!
As someone mentionedà
àthe two Quafe shirts I got for spending $$áon the HD Fanfest stream suddenly turn out to be the bargain of a lifetime. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Reilly Duvolle
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:35:00 -
[750]
Edited by: Reilly Duvolle on 22/06/2011 07:37:39 Seeing CCP actions over the past few weeks has really been an eye-opener. Especially with the USD 99 fee for 3rd party developers that get the occasional isk donation from players (EFT, EVEMON, DOTLAN etc) and this RMT-store, CCP has finally exposed themselves as the Gordon Gekko fans they are. Unfortunately, once a company starting heading down this path, the only language they understand is money.
So 2 subscriptions cancelled today.
And no, you can not have my stuff.
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