You don't apparently know how to firewall then.

6 - 8 smartbombs means a smartbomb cycling every 1 second or less

With 12km diameter, the chance of a missile making it through the gap even with 15,000 m/s speed is slim to none. On a non velocity boosted ship, it's even more severe.

And saying a "little less powerful" when a Firewall is about 90-95% effective already, is not a promising statement.

What other fleet doctrine takes that kind of hit?

Just a natural Resistance of 90% on one damage type would make it much harder to firewall.

There were a number of potential counter proposals presented to lessen if not prevent this. I'm going to take the optimistic approach here and guess they want to finish working with large missile systems during the BS rebalance before adding a mechanic that affects all missile systems.

Indeed launcher capacity increase would be very appreciated.

expecially since most damage buffs are getting changed to RoF buffs.

That's more waisted ammo for us

And more server lag ?

and more isk sinks..

more ammo used means more isk used to use that ammo...

now only if heat made it so your lenzes burn out...

expecially since most damage buffs are getting changed to RoF buffs.

That's more waisted[sic] ammo for us

Gets a superior damage bonus. Complains about ammo consumption.

Gets a superior damage bonus. Complains about ammo consumption.

Because TD would become overpowered?

Another solution instead of increasing launcher capacity aor halving missile size could be reducing reload time. Currently missiles spend more time than any weapon system to reloads.

You don't apparently know how to firewall then.

6 - 8 smartbombs means a smartbomb cycling every 1 second or less

With 12km diameter, the chance of a missile making it through the gap even with 15,000 m/s speed is slim to none. On a non velocity boosted ship, it's even more severe.

And saying a "little less powerful" when a Firewall is about 90-95% effective already, is not a promising statement.

What other fleet doctrine takes that kind of hit?

Just a natural Resistance of 90% on one damage type would make it much harder to firewall.

Well i would hope e-war is going to be more centralized as it is too strong on unbonused ships

yes its simple...

step one remove e-war scripts from all ships

step two make the use of e-war scripts a role bonus for ewar ships

step three make tech II versions of e-war scripts that have a 125% bonus to thier specific enhancement i.e. optimal range disrution bonus 125%

125% is excessive to say the least just halve the effectiveness of most of the e-war or thereabouts should do the trick maybe nerf scripts a little as-well.

so by my calculations Rage HAM's will be able to do something in the region of 15km at lv5 skills thats before any mods/rigs buff them now to me that seems excessive for a supposed short range high damage ammo type even conflag can't reach that far and lasers usually have the best range its clearly way too much as the fact that torps have the same range tells you this.

Surely 9km is more reasonable considering all the guns are well into falloff at this point

You can't compare lasers with missiles.
If you do so you can say, make every weapon in eve same with same range and same falloff then you have perfect eve, all weapons are the same.

awe i was looking forward to Tracking computers effecting missiles, i was gonna work on a sniper/short range missile combo.

I'm a little disappointed by this, since it means that missile boats will still be de facto immune to one of the types of ewar. May I ask what the reason for reversing the TD changes was?

so by my calculations Rage HAM's will be able to do something in the region of 15km at lv5 skills thats before any mods/rigs buff them now to me that seems excessive for a supposed short range high damage ammo type even conflag can't reach that far and lasers usually have the best range its clearly way too much as the fact that torps have the same range tells you this.

Surely 9km is more reasonable considering all the guns are well into falloff at this point
Which by extension means javelin is also too far ranged.

I am not trolling.
Every weapon in eve has it's special purpose so do missiles, missiles can be:
1. Smartbombed
2. Defended with defenders
3. Take a long time to get to target

Turrets do:
1. Instant damage (frigate dies in less than a second)
2. Can't be destroyed in space
3. No delay to target after activation

1. So take tengu for example and try to kill an npc frigate that's 50km away from you, you'll have hard time even hitting it.
2. Take vargur with a good fit and you'll instakill an npc frigate at 50km in less than a second.

as you see turrets are far more advanced then missiles even now before the nerf.

Why do you want everything to be the same??

How many times are you going to post in this thread in an attempt to nerf missiles to an even greater extent? Lemme guess - you don't use missiles?

15km Rage HAMs seems excessive to you?

void/hail/conflag