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Atandros
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Posted - 2005.03.15 04:35:00 -
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Edited by: Atandros on 15/03/2005 09:42:45
SFCPR001 (Public-Release) 15/3 04:30 / Urgent
The Star Fraction council of owner-captains has met this evening in extraordinary session to discuss the actions of Holder Marin Ankigher in granting possession of 500 Sebiestor individuals to the Curatores Veritatis Alliance in a state of mental and physical conditioning and obedience programming to the cultural dictates of slavery.
After detailed discussion a vote was held and by a 7-1 margin of voting corporate leaders; Star Fraction hereby requires that CVA release these individuals to the care of our officers without delay.
The Star Fraction council grants Curatores Veritatis until 23:59 hours on the evening of 17/03 to deliver the Sebiestor 500 to our care at a mutual location of convenience in Gallente space.
Thereafter we undertake to implement steps to ensure the future cultural and economic independence of these individuals whereupon their future destiny will be decided by none other than themselves.
If Curatores Veritatis Alliance does not comply with this request then the Star Fraction Council has authorised that ôunspecified further actionö will be taken where appropriate with more details to be released if and when such measures become appropriate.
Thank you for your attention; this has been a Star Fraction public announcement on behalf of the owner captains.
The Star Fraction
The Star Fraction forum
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Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2005.03.15 05:03:00 -
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Edited by: Dau Imperius on 15/03/2005 05:06:38
I'll translate this for those who dislike flowery words to hide things:
Star Fraction will hire mercs (most likely KIA and a few others) and maybe declare war on the CVA, if they don't hand over slaves that no one would have cared about had it not been on the news.
Now let us await the CVA response to this. Personally my isk is on PIE. I may dislike slavery but they are quite legal in the Empire and must be properly purchased to freedom, not demanded. Go to their auction and buy their freedom. It's less messy and will save lives..plus the proceeds will go to a good cause...the better treatment of slaves still in the EMpire you can't help yet. (There's more then 500 for the gods sake! You going to help them too or not?)
SF is basically treating these slaves the same way...as cattle for publicity. They care not if someone decides to space them rather then give them up. You've just sentanced these beings to a fate that may include their deaths..unless you work within the system and buy their freedom!
*sighs* Place your bets now ladies and gents. Will there be bloodshed or a cold war?
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Tairos Hakonnus
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Posted - 2005.03.15 05:07:00 -
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Interesting.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2005.03.15 05:11:00 -
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Edited by: Atandros on 15/03/2005 06:17:13
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Star Fraction will hire mercs (most likely KIA and a few others)
After due consideration, SF has decided it would not be to our benefit to hire an elite corp of Osprey pilots at this time.
Originally by: Dau Imperius
Edited by: Dau Imperius on 15/03/2005 05:06:38
Go to their auction and buy their freedom. It's less messy and will save lives..
We should give money to the slavers in exchange for people? And, to boot, acknowledge the slavers' claim of property on them? You're disgusting.
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plus the proceeds will go to a good cause...the better treatment of slaves still in the EMpire you can't help yet. (There's more then 500 for the gods sake! You going to help them too or not?)
Obscene.
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Mordax Ibrium
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Posted - 2005.03.15 05:15:00 -
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I thoroughly endorse this product or message.
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Jaydom
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Posted - 2005.03.15 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jaydom on 15/03/2005 05:41:36
Edited by: Jaydom on 15/03/2005 05:38:43
Originally by: Atandrosin ôunspecified further actionö[quote
I relish in that thought. :)
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Nooey
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Posted - 2005.03.15 06:03:00 -
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Edited by: Nooey on 16/03/2005 13:54:53
Originally by: Dau Imperius
I'll translate this for those who dislike flowery words to hide things:
Time for some more translation: "I'll totally distort this message for those without the mental capacity to handle poly-syllabic words. Wherein I will tell outright lies that display how out of touch I am.
Originally by: Dau Imperius
Star Fraction will hire mercs (most likely KIA and a few others) and maybe declare war on the CVA, if they don't hand over slaves that no one would have cared about had it not been on the news.
We kill KIA, we don't hire them. They are neutral-shooting anti-freespace delinquents. The only thing we'd pay them to do is wardec themselves. They get ammo in the face, that is all.
Furthermore, we are not fluffy kittens talking the talk. We are guerillas willing to walk the walk. Ingore that at your peril. Why don't you ask KIA how fluffy we are Dau. You seem to need to catch up with them on a few things, may as well make efficient use of your time.
Originally by: Dau Imperius
Now let us await the CVA response to this. Personally my isk is on PIE. I may dislike slavery but they are quite legal in the Empire and must be properly purchased to freedom, not demanded. Go to their auction and buy their freedom.
Legal or not. We are opposed. Where did we say we are law-abiding? Do freedom fighters often regard the law with high-esteem? We are not interested in buying freedom.
Simply because we disbelieve anybody can own it as a commidity to sell.
This whole filth about pure-bred HUMANS disgusts anyone sane enough to see reason and view the facts with an open and unclouded mind. Legality is entirely insignificant.
Originally by: Dau Imperius
It's less messy and will save lives..plus the proceeds will go to a good cause...the better treatment of slaves still in the Empire you can't help yet. (There's more then 500 for the gods sake! You going to help them too or not?)
Mess? Good lord. The mess has already been made. The mess is upon us. We are only here to clean it all up. The better treatment of slaves, although in ONE way is a good cause, it pales in insignificance to the granting of their freedom. You Dau, may be content in conscience to give them mere happiness in slavery, we however are not.
Originally by: Dau Imperius
SF is basically treating these slaves the same way...as cattle for publicity. They care not if someone decides to space them rather then give them up. You've just sentanced these beings to a fate that may include their deaths..unless you work within the system and buy their freedom!
Obsecene indeed. We make it public so as to make our message clear and resolute. To rally like-minded people behind the cause.
The cause is what is on display here, not ourselves. It is the cause, the fight for freespace, and individual libery therein, that is being promoted, not Star Fraction. We are mere catalysts for a better time.
Get your facts straight. And refrain from any future attempts to "Translate" our words.
Originally by: Dau Imperius
*sighs* Place your bets now ladies and gents. Will there be bloodshed or a cold war?
That is for C.V.A to decide. We are more than prepared to spill the blood of the ignorant.
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Tairos Hakonnus
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Posted - 2005.03.15 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nooey
We are more than prepared to spill the blood of the ignorant.
Does this mean we can start blasting indies in X-70MU?
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.03.15 06:14:00 -
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We will see how many ships and clones your publicity is worth to you. |
Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.03.15 06:20:00 -
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ok, they admited it!
Star Fraction is terrorists! onos! 
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.03.15 06:30:00 -
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The Star Fraction council grants Curatores Veritatis until 23:59 hours on the evening of 17/03 to deliver the Sebiestor 500 to our care at a mutual location of convenience in Gallente space.
You aren't too familiar with Gallente Customs laws, are you?
Yes, this should be a well run campaign from Star Fraction. They're right on top of everything.
Minister - Public Affairs
AEGIS MILITIA
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.03.15 06:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 15/03/2005 06:37:23
Originally by: Graelyn
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The Star Fraction council grants Curatores Veritatis until 23:59 hours on the evening of 17/03 to deliver the Sebiestor 500 to our care at a mutual location of convenience in Gallente space.
You aren't too familiar with Gallente Customs laws, are you?
Well doh! If they are on their way to freedom they aren't "slaves" anymore are they mr Graelyn. (I reckon gallente customs would reclassify them as "exotic dancers" if we passed them a few million isk to clear the diplomatic channels.
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Yes, this should be a well run campaign from Star Fraction. They're right on top of everything.
I wouldn't go quite that far 
Star Fraction
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.03.15 06:40:00 -
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Edited by: Graelyn on 15/03/2005 06:46:18
You speak of a bureaucratic process that takes ages.
Not that it matters. I'd bet my bottom ISK that CVA are going to laugh you off. Then you will come to fight them. Afterwards, they will laugh you off again.
But your feinged 'chance' to avoid the war would result in the returning ship being destroyed. Period.
Come now, your political folks can generate better than this transparent facade, surely.
Minister - Public Affairs
AEGIS MILITIA
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.03.15 07:07:00 -
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This was amusing.
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Jobe Katarn
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Posted - 2005.03.15 08:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jobe Katarn on 15/03/2005 08:13:46
Declare.
I need a trip to Gallante space. Perhaps I can buy some nubile Gallante slaves whilst I'm there.
In arduis fidelis
Steadfast in Adversity
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.15 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tairos Hakonnus
Does this mean we can start blasting indies in X-70MU?
As long as they're not Star Fraction indies.
We're not the PB Police you know, although attacking neutral shipping has been known to get our attention for all the wrong reasons.
We're not 'moving' our base of operations at all, and if CVA are sensible about this we won't need to fly over there to pursue less diplomatic solutions. *coughs*
Do try to be good...
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Joaquin Farrad
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Posted - 2005.03.15 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kyle Caldrel
ok, they admited it!
Star Fraction is terrorists! onos!
I prefer to think of us as gypsies more than pirates.
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Gen Denrk
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Posted - 2005.03.15 09:10:00 -
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I can handle being a gypsie ... but not a pirate :D
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Tairos Hakonnus
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Posted - 2005.03.15 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Originally by: Tairos Hakonnus
Does this mean we can start blasting indies in X-70MU?
As long as they're not Star Fraction indies.
We're not the PB Police you know, although attacking neutral shipping has been known to get our attention for all the wrong reasons.
Maybe we can work something out?
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/03/2005 09:31:23
I think I speak for the whole CVA when I say that we do not give in to blackmail.
I really hope that you don't expect us to give in to your demands, in the same way that we don't expect you flower powered beatniks to give up your addictions to boosters and erotic Gallente holoreels.
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.15 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Joaquin Farrad
I prefer to think of us as gypsies more than pirates.
Do we get to wear those dangly headdress things with the little gold coins hanging off them? I like those. I'll have to get the outside of my ship painted with some nice designs - maybe rambling roses and Tarot cards.
*Wanders off singing.. "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves..."*
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:01:00 -
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This is not an offical CVA reply as I have yet to consult my other CVA colleagues...
However my initial reaction echoes that of Rodj Blake. We do not give in to blackmail and terror.
If Star Fraction wish to align their 246 pilots to the 308 terrorist pilots of Ushra'Khan then so be it.
The CVA has never been daunted by odds... We shall face this difficulty and overcome it for we have right on our side.
This is yet another example of OUTSIDERS meddling in Amarrian affairs. What right have the Gallente got to tell us how to live our lives? What right have they got to attack our traditions and customs?
The CVA has and will continue to remain steadfast in its duty towards the Empire - whether that is removing the threat of piracy from within its borders or opposing those who wish to interfere in our internal affairs. We may be outnumbered but we will continue the struggle until our dying breath for we are Amarrians, stubborn and true...
Let all Amarrians know our race is under attack, our way of life is threatened.
Do not stand idly by...
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:08:00 -
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[Considers calling off his servant from her current duties, to violate Star Fraction pilots instead.]
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Atandros
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: Atandros on 15/03/2005 10:20:16
Originally by: Hardin
This is yet another example of OUTSIDERS meddling in Amarrian affairs. What right have the Gallente got to tell us how to live our lives? What right have they got to attack our traditions and customs?
You ask what right others have to intrude and attack your traditions and customs - after what you've done to the Minmatar? You're, frankly, amazingly repulsive and, as I've said elsewhere, personally I wholeheartedly support the extermination of the CVA to the greatest degree at the earliest opportunity.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
This is yet another example of OUTSIDERS meddling in Amarrian affairs. What right have the Gallente got to tell us how to live our lives? What right have they got to attack our traditions and customs?
Laughable. The Amarrian Empire's stock-in-trade is inteference in the affairs of others, whether it be by direct force-of-arms as in the conquest of the Minmatar Empire and other races suppressed by the Empire throughout the ages or whether it by proxy forces, political meddling or economic pressure.
Do not make the mistake of thinking that The Star Fraction is a Gallente front organisation just because your gang of thugs operates with the veneer of imperial backing. The Star Fraction includes many races and many strands of political thought.
As to our right to attack your 'traditions and customs'. This is an absurd protest in the face of your suppression of Matari traditions and customs throughout the ages.
You may well bray your usual 'God is on our side' justification and I respond with the ethics of freespace and self-determination that underpins The Star Fraction political movement.
The reason this act of slavery is so vile is that it both symbolizes everything that is wrong with the Amarrian system, economic, political and religious, and because it is being used to justify a spurious 'free space' in Providence. All the world knows that this is merely an attempt by renegades and malcontents to annex Providence for the Empire in order to curry favour with their lords and masters.
The near unanimity of The Star Fraction owner-pilot council in this question (in a political movement that by its very nature is a medley of views and positions) indicates our resolve in this matter and will provide a solid foundation for our young movement's first campaign against manifestations of tyranny, whether that tyranny be slavery or enclosurism.
The Cosmopolite
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/03/2005 10:30:48
Originally by: Atandros
Edited by: Atandros on 15/03/2005 10:20:16
Originally by: Hardin
This is yet another example of OUTSIDERS meddling in Amarrian affairs. What right have the Gallente got to tell us how to live our lives? What right have they got to attack our traditions and customs?
You ask what right others have to intrude and attack your traditions and customs - after what you've done to the Minmatar? You're, frankly, amazingly repulsive and, as I've said elsewhere, personally I wholeheartedly support the extermination of the CVA to the greatest degree at the earliest opportunity.
So, you will attack us even if we submit to your demands?
Admitting to that hardly seems like the best way for your to secure the release of the workers.
If you've ever paid for training in negotiation or diplomacy, I think that maybe you should ask for your money back.
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Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:34:00 -
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From:TES Leviathan Apocalypse class.
Location:Mamet high orbit.
***AMUSED ADMIRAL APPEARS ON HOLO***
Empty threats by a bunch of transvestites and prostitutes, the galenteans make such poor soldiers...they really have no stomach for fighting ,your flimsy ships will be no match for the golden fleet.
***TRANSMISSION ENDS***
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:35:00 -
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Clearly Atandros you are just jealous of my amazing charisma and attraction to your female folk. That is the real reason for this war 
Joking aside... are you simply going to regurgitate Minmatar propoganda?
What we have done to the Minmatar?
We have taken a backwards tribal people and are moulding them into valuable contributors to the galactic community.
Yes we benefit from slavery... but so do the barbaric Minmatar. They are simply too short sighted to see this.
Now stop interfering in Amarr affairs. Your involvement will come to haunt you and your people...
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Atandros
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
So, you will attack us even if we submit to your demands?
Admitting to that hardly seems like the best way for your to secure the release of the workers.
If you've ever paid for training in negotiation or diplomacy, I think that maybe you should ask for your money back.
Quite the acerbic tongue you have.
No, note I said personally. Jerome Atandros the individual and Jerome Atandros the Star Fraction representative are two different personas.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:37:00 -
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Mmm.
Might be wise to consider this what it is, Hardin, one Alliance vs an other. Involving one's race in every debate is counter-productive 
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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