Yes but is that value adjusted for the price increase in everything else?
If everything has risen in proportion, then ganks are cheaper now.

The cost of ganking in a T3 was increased over ganking in a tempest the instant the insurance nerf went through, i.e. before the prices of minerals etc increased.

Try another strawman.

Poasting on page 10 of this years winter expansion wah-wah-waaaaaah dickers getting upset about change thread rage

Go to null

Let me kill you over and over please (no wah-wah-wailing)

Go to null

Let me kill you over and over please (no wah-wah-wailing)

from http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2012/10/how-to-boil-frog.html
And then thesummer of 2011 came, the **** hit the fan, the players were unhappy, subscriptions were cancelled. CCP was faced with the realization that what they did might not be appreciated. The goose might not lay golden eggs in perpetuity. CCP discovered fear.

It was the expansion that must not be named.

Malarky most whines on EVENEWS24, THEMITTANI.COM, & EVE forum posts/blogs are NULL seccerz bleating about how to move HI SECerz into NULL so they have more EZ prey. Your post is yet another whine that everybody's sandbox shouldbe the way you want it.

since you're against a risky hisec, i guess you're for removing incursions and other high-reward activities from hisec

oh wait, no you're not lmao

All these "questions" just another alt trying to act as though there's a great need to nerf ganking.

Look, it's already happening, there's no need to be all excited about it and egg CCP on.

I'm a bit new here. I've seen people here refer to some sort of apocalyptic event that happened in 2011. What exactly happened here? I joined after Incursion released so don't really know what this reference is to... can someone please explain?

Every player meet, every fanfest, CCP Soundwave trots out the same tired vision, how one day he would like to turn off CONCORD and leave policing in the players hands.

Increasing the costs of wardecs. Buffing mining ships to an obscene, nearly ungankable level. Removing insurance if killed by CONCORD. The so-called idiot switch to protect players from their own stupidity. The removal of can-flipping. Buffing CONCORD response. A change here, a change there. Control the message of those changes ("this behaviour was never intended," even when those behaviours have existed for years and never classified as exploits.)

Toss a frog into some boiling water, it's going to freak the hell out and immediately try to escape. But, put a frog in some cool water, very slowly increase the temperature of the water over time and the frog will not perceive the danger, eventually boiling to death. Or so the hypothesis goes. Turns out it is complete bunk, the frog will hop out of the water when it becomes uncomfortably warm. As a metaphor, though, the boiling frog anecdote is instructive.

Incarna was released with it's microtransaction store ($70 Monocles, and nothing under ~$10 IIRC) and anemic CQ, with little FIS content. A horrendously damaging internal newsletter was released (it could easily be read as "Microtransaction Everything"). There was a revelation about that anemic CQ being responsible for the relatively anemic expansions of the previous months. There was an emergency CSM summit (with a bungled and delayed release of minutes).

All of that resulted in giant protests and cost CCP ~25k Subs. That was CCP's summer 2011.

You seem to be forgetting all the stuff CCP did that helped suicide gankers, like Tier 3 BCs, the destroyer buffs, etc.

since you're against a risky hisec, i guess you're for removing incursions and other high-reward activities from hisec

oh wait, no you're not lmao

When tech moons can be depleted perhaps those incursions should leave high sec.

Or maybe remove local in 0.0.

OK, so we've got theoretical FFA in hisec --just ask CCP, they'll tell you-- although I suspect the actual result will be much different.

So, let's take this to its logical endpoint:

CCP, allow covert cyno generation and bridging-to/between in hisec, with the legal possibility to escape CONCORD through same.

Have you scanned a region before? A constellation? A single system?


What's that you say, you wanted incursions, L4s and L3s to be removed from hisec?

Okay then.

I spends months at a time in 0.0, trespassing, and go weeks at a time without seeing anybody else. I can say I scanned quite a few systems since exploration is pretty much the bulk of what I have done since they revamped it.

I spends months at a time in 0.0, trespassing, and go weeks at a time without seeing anybody else. I can say I scanned quite a few systems since exploration is pretty much the bulk of what I have done since they revamped it.