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Liberator 1
One Man No Tax Corp
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:44:00 -
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What is it with these low-sec whiners ? Why do they think that everyone has to play the game like they do ? Seriously, it's like some kind of religious fundamentalism. People can play the game how they want, most of them don't give a toss about the WAAAH HI SEC SUCKS foaming at the mouth PvP obsessed lunacy, I sure as hell don't. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:45:00 -
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Yet you cared enough to post about how much you didn't care.
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:01:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Yet you cared enough to post about how much you didn't care.
Human psychology.
Much like having an informed opinion.
If you have done research and thus have facts it is no longer an opinion.
It instead is a factual statement. |
Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:51:00 -
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Just another whine thread, nothing to see here.
Also, that's a terrible metaphor. Catering to the majority is not trying to boil a frog, slowly rolling out small changes to put their WiS vision back into the game whilst we didn't notice would be the whole "boiling a frog" scenario. As it stands they're not doing that (much to my dismay). The new bounty system only caters to carebears as much as it caters to hardcore players and PvPers.
Now a good PvPer can steal from a can in a low population high sec system and see if anyone will engage him. Free solo highsec PvP for all. Huzzah! Killright transfers means hardcore pirates who kill pods in lowsec can now fly around highsec doing the same thing, but having to wait for someone to activate their killrights. Smart suicide gankers are immune as they use disposable alts, except the freighter and hauler suicide gankers who earn enough sometimes that they deserve the risk. And now PvPers will be able to fund their PvP, by killing people! Honestly, You think they're catering to carebears there?
The Macks are still suicide gankable, don't kid yourself. Goon are doing it alot at the moment as a matter of fact. Suicide ganking Exhumers was never profitable and as such they haven't been affected, they just need to find an extra friend or two to help out.
As for dreaming of a player policed highsec; a man can dream right? Even if it is a pipe dream.
To summarise: the OP doesn't know what they're talking about. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:59:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The flip side of the new idiot switch is that CCP are trying to appeal to a wider demographic, hopefully drawing them in from other MMOs where molly coddling and hand holding are the norm. Some of the current mechanics are arcane and convoluted to say the least and it's very easy to trick the uneducated into doing something unwise. Personally I hope they succeed in bringing in new players so that we can introduce them to a proper game that doesn't involve cartoon pets and proper PvP where if you die you actually lose stuff.
However if they go too far with the idjit proofing they risk alienating their current players, and the current players are the ones that have created Eves reputation as the pinnacle of what a game can be.
TL;DR Gaining new players is good, losing old players is not.
'trying to appeal to a wider demographic'
When will the game-industry ever learn that's just a recipe for unmitigated disaster?
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Opertone
Aurora Empire
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:12:00 -
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OMG?
it is a thoughtful read.
But what is the point? Do you hate carebears or do you care for them?
What happens if EVE caters to carebears?
When CCP evolves and changes the game, for me it is a lot better than if it was static, until death, then eve 2.0 and EVE 3.0 and EVE - free to play china grind franchise.
Things must change, else you grow bored sooner than you realize that you've quit logging in. |
Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:14:00 -
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Opertone wrote:
What happens if EVE caters to carebears?
Doesn't matter, because they're not. |
Bogus Ozran
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:43:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:Wait, if we can set the game to automatically block suspect/criminal actions, does that mean we can go the other direction so no more "Are you sure you want to attack?" box pops up when I'm trying to suicide someone? That would be sweet. I believe this was the other half the point of the safety switch. Somehow I don't think it's going to be any more difficult to turn off the "safety" than it is to make those annoying pop up messages to go away. But nobody EVER does that.....
Yeah what's with those messages rat shoots at me I target and go to shoot back and "Are you sure you want to shoot this peaceful entity" grips my s**t |
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
Quantum Cafe
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:56:00 -
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A more apt analogy would be salami tactics.
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Karrl Tian
Star-Trackers
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:57:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:this frog still living?
Got him into structure then he jumped.  |
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:04:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:this frog still living?
Only just, boredom with the constant circular aguments in this thread have almost killed the frog.
This is not a signature. |
Becka Goldbeck
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:33:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:The highsec hate has really been heating up the forums lately, hasn't it?  James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Pray do explain how that works.
You know, bumping?
Do you mean bumping or leaving system while it's under heavy TiDi to wait out aggression |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:21:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:What is wrong with making hisec safer?
it kills the rest of the game
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NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:37:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:What is wrong with making hisec safer? it kills the rest of the game
How?
I keep hearing this accusation yet never hear the argument to support it. |
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:41:00 -
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This just marks the continuing trend and the road that CCP has been on forever: making hisec "safe" for everyone..
I agree with OP's assessment of the mackinaw and also agree that this changing what made eve 'special' for so many of us.
Hmmm |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:42:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This just marks the continuing trend and the road that CCP has been on forever: making hisec "safe" for everyone..
I agree with OP's assessment of the mackinaw and also agree that this changing what made eve 'special' for so many of us.
On the other hand it will induce much more rage when they do get popped
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:45:00 -
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I can't even fathom how making it player versus player conflict more difficult in a game marketed entirely on various types of player versus player conflict seems like a good idea to anyone, regardless of which particular variety of space it happens in.
I guess that's just how far removed the trains of thought of people who actually want to play EVE and the people who want to play world of warcraft with spaceships are. |
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
Republic Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:04:00 -
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CCP has just entered a phase of the game where it is milking the consumer for all that's left before they jump ship. We've seen this trend happen over the past two or three years and it's only getting more blatant. It's like watching a family member get cancer and die slowly. |
Connaght Badasaz
Reasonable People
Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:22:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Historically, the most whining, the most threats of ending subscriptions, have come from the carebear segment of the playerbase.
Malarky most whines on EVENEWS24, THEMITTANI.COM, & EVE forum posts/blogs are NULL seccerz bleating about how to move HI SECerz into NULL so they have more EZ prey. Your post is yet another whine that everybody's sandbox shouldbe the way you want it.
I don't want you in null so I can kill you. Buy my stuff, and if you want to fight, we'll get it going. Carebears delude themselves into thinking everyone else wants to kill them. It's really not that bad "out there", and a lot easier than it used to be before WTZ and other changes.
What is a ship here but a few pixels and some time, lose it? So what, get another. It's not that complicated. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:27:00 -
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Korinne wrote:CCP has just entered a phase of the game where it is milking the consumer for all that's left before they jump ship. We've seen this trend happen over the past two or three years and it's only getting more blatant. It's like watching a family member get cancer and die slowly.
Except actually, it's us.
We're the ones being boiled slowly.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Marzuq
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:50:00 -
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Frog legs are delicious. |
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
Republic Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:50:00 -
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Well, we as players exist in a symbiotic (or perhaps parasitic for some) relationship with Eve. When one gets sick, the other feels it. Eve gets cancer and dies, so does the playerbase. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
Reckless Ambition
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Posted - 2012.10.17 03:25:00 -
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Marzuq wrote:Frog legs are delicious.
Yeah, but you're supposed to fry them:
So come on, CCP, fire up that skillet and shut-off all aggro in hisec already. Stop mincing around and kill your game already, --we know you want to so you can milk as much pay to win out of the Dusties as possible, you know you want to-- so ******* do it already.
So then the rest of us will finally have to face that we have no choice but to finally move on from your increasingly-archaic and obsolescent game.
But do keep the forums open so we can all come back and say "I told you so."
Stealth Bomber bombs and covert-bridging in hisec naow, please: It's the only way to make sure! |
Frau Richter
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.17 03:40:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This just marks the continuing trend and the road that CCP has been on forever: making hisec "safe" for everyone..
I agree with OP's assessment of the mackinaw and also agree that this changing what made eve 'special' for so many of us.
maybe if you did something with your ******* CSM slot, you could have prevented it. instead, you like to comment long long after the fact. You sit on your ass for your entire term but now you're back to tell us how wrong CCP is? Where the **** were you? |
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