I will sit in a station tonight. Counting ISK.

I will get my Maelstrom blown up tonight (hopefully) and probably podded.

The problem with making meta 4 items 0.0 exclusive is that the items would then be region specific to the rat type - that runs a risk of someone ending up with a nice monopoly outcome. Removing meta 4 from high-sec, fair enough as it's that rare now it's not a big loss for most - but they shouldn't be removed from low-sec. After FW gets nerfed low-sec won't be as profitable (and anyone thinking 0.0 is more risky has never spent long around amamake etc).

The new dust tie-in might be a way for CCP to boost 0.0 income somehow (the 0.0 planets are already a nice passive income for the few who bother with the clicking). After seeing the topic about what team avatar is working on with EVA gameplay there's possibilities in that which could be used.
Then again if 0.0 space was uniformly balanced in quality and resources - what incentive is left for conflicts over resources, look at how blue lists have grown to huge sizes since systems could be upgraded, no need to go to war for better space when you can take the easy route and drop i-hubs.

Really adding more isk to the system runs a risk of inflation, it's more a need of rebalancing where the isk is generated that's needed - high-sec ores are now worth more than bistot / crokite etc. One place they could start is by looking into what basic rat items reprocess into, change it so you need to get zydrine / megacyte from low / 0.0 instead of from lvl 4 loot (make it reprocess into the same minerals as you get from mining high-sec belts).
Combine that with removing those huge spod roids from 0.0 grav belts so miners don't have to mine it out to get a respawn of decent ore would increase their income too.

Ohh space masochists Want to be spanked too?

This will not change anything. Idiots will simply quit and search for another game
where they can get their worthless satisfaction.

Have you considered all those people who are actually running lvl5s in lowsec ?
Why do they do it ? How comes they do it, but the others don't ?
The answer is:

They do it, because they aren't COWARDS !
They do it, because they love the risk and hope for rewards !
They do it, because they know how to watch out for themselves !

All the other guys, highly probably including you,
simply do not want to risk their ships,
simply don't want to put any effort into it,
but want to gain the rewards anyway !

(anybody who thinks about miners now ... bingo !)

How about you don't make me wanna kick your candy ass, thank you very much !

It is when you're the victim. Have you ever tried fitting a ship for the sole purpose of falling prey to a gatecamp? With a little planning and careful manipulation of aggression mechanics, you can create some surprising results. You might even have fun. Maybe you should try it. It might change your perspective on things.

Question is, what's the point doing it?

Zagdul for CSM8?

\o/

Not all gates are camped 23/7 - that's just pants-on-head stupid talk. Go out of Jita to the nearest gate, yeah, that's going to be camped.

There is more than one way into Null (Pro-Tip: Wormholes).

The point is to learn to enjoy PvP. To take a ship specifically designed to take on a gate camp. Play games with them, use the gate guns, use aggression to split their group up. You might even destroy a couple of ships, you might not. It doesn't matter, the point is that you are learning to enjoy EvE.

some people think that Eve is only PVP (read: playing with other people how other people want you to play)
do you really want to waste your time doing it?

Exactly.

And they won't move to lowsec just because there's more money to be made down there,
because there's also a high chance of loosing ! They don't care about the money,
they care about satisfaction ! Lowsec, for a carebear, does not relate to that !

CCP will simply continue nerfing highsec, while at the same time making it more secure ...
... and it will change exactly NOTHING, except pissing off even more people than before !


Hey, in regards to that, how about this:

To bring more people to lowsec, encourage all the pirates to instead move to highsec. %)

It's at least as "smart" as any of these "throw more money at it" ideas,
but this at least hasn't been proven wrong time and time again ..................

Would be an excellent candidate.

You don't know Zagdul do you?

I like Zagdul :colbert:

Solstice Project

good trolling

High rewards do matter, but risks that are 100 times greater prevent all attempts.

It is the ratio of risk to reward - if it was 1:10 to win 100 mill ISK - this is kind of reward people may want to try.

Today it is 1:100 to win 15 mill ISK. Contrast more than 60 times!!!

Low sec mission runners need to be protected while in mission pocket!

The solution, in my eyes, is to make PvE require the same (or at least very similar) fits to PvP. that way, if you do get jumped doing PvP, you have a chance to fight back instead of inevitably getting roflstomped even against bad PvP setups. Further, once the AI is changed so NPCs don't keep a laser focus on a single ship, and instead change targets, trying to gank someone doing missions or plexes could have some risk to it.

It would also add an interesting dynamic. For instance, it would be interesting to have a mission where a critical NPC could possibly warp off, so if you forget to pack a point you could end up having to travel all across the system trying to complete the mission. As another example, if you had to use combat scan probes to find a certain NPC for another mission, it would serve to partially train players on how to use them (though getting a human still takes more work since we tend to move around at the first sign of probes).

The solution, in my eyes, is to make PvE require the same (or at least very similar) fits to PvP. that way, if you do get jumped doing PvP, you have a chance to fight back instead of inevitably getting roflstomped even against bad PvP setups. Further, once the AI is changed so NPCs don't keep a laser focus on a single ship, and instead change targets, trying to gank someone doing missions or plexes could have some risk to it.

It would also add an interesting dynamic. For instance, it would be interesting to have a mission where a critical NPC could possibly warp off, so if you forget to pack a point you could end up having to travel all across the system trying to complete the mission. As another example, if you had to use combat scan probes to find a certain NPC for another mission, it would serve to partially train players on how to use them (though getting a human still takes more work since we tend to move around at the first sign of probes).

The solution, in my eyes, is to make PvE require the same (or at least very similar) fits to PvP. that way, if you do get jumped doing PvP, you have a chance to fight back instead of inevitably getting roflstomped even against bad PvP setups. Further, once the AI is changed so NPCs don't keep a laser focus on a single ship, and instead change targets, trying to gank someone doing missions or plexes could have some risk to it.

It would also add an interesting dynamic. For instance, it would be interesting to have a mission where a critical NPC could possibly warp off, so if you forget to pack a point you could end up having to travel all across the system trying to complete the mission. As another example, if you had to use combat scan probes to find a certain NPC for another mission, it would serve to partially train players on how to use them (though getting a human still takes more work since we tend to move around at the first sign of probes).

Nerf highsec PvE into the ground tbh.

High Security needs to stay how it is. People who want risk will go to lower security areas. I have more fun flying around High Security checking out planets and belts, and mining some ore. I don't want to be killed every 5 seconds.