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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:11:00 -
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As the titles says.
I just bought myself a tengu a few days back, because I heard they are crazy fast, tank thousands of dps , dish out BC damage and have one of the highest survivablity on the Battlefield.
WELL!
To be frank.. I think not...
I am barely dishing out 300 dps atm , only has an ehp of 35k.
Thats even worse than my Drake.
While on Battleclinic, I see people dishing out 1200 dps+ , and even tankier than a Skiff.
SO HERE IS THE QUESTION!
What is the minimum SP for which categories of skills should a newbie Tengu pilot should have , before he even thinks about hopping into one and go pew pew pvp style in it?
It is forbidden to kill.
Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Jim Era
5125
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:13:00 -
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the answer is 4 |
Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:14:00 -
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Accelerated Ejection Bay Subsystem |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
540
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:14:00 -
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It would be helpful to see your fit before we can tell you why you are bad. |
Katsami
Sancta Terra
10
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:15:00 -
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Place hundreds of PLEX in the cargo. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
282
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:15:00 -
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Stupid or trolling?
TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
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Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
Against ALL Anomalies
303
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:22:00 -
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Sig tanking with a 10mn afterburner with kinetic HMLs can get you almost 700 dps with lvl 5 offensive subsystem.
Sig tanking at 500m/s is what gives you the ability to offset 99% of incoming damage (everything that does a ton of damage misses, beware of battlecrusiers). The tengu does NOT have the ability to tank like a drakes does, and a drake does not have the ability to sig tank like a tengu does.
keep moving, avoid webs, kill BC's first
Rouge drones is an entirely different story.... (I LOST MY TENGU a couple days ago in a 5/10 rouge drone anom.... /sob) |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1315
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:25:00 -
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newbie Tengu pilot = not tengu pilot. |
Kobal81
14th Legion
Eternal Evocations
17
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:31:00 -
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Only 300 DPS? Confirming your skills are sh**. |
Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
61
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:34:00 -
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Too lazy to calculate the actual number, but you definitely want to have strong skills (many level 5s and 4s) before even considering any Tech 3 ship.
Also, where are you getting your numbers from? Most 3rd party calculations just report raw vacuum dps.
Also, inb4 thread moved. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
209
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:36:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Stupid or trolling?
Some from column A, some from column B.
"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
227
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:37:00 -
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Kobal81 wrote:Only 300 DPS? Confirming your skills are sh**.
ofc my skills are ****, but I don't want to go around wasting time on useless skills that'll be marginal at helping me becoming an effective tengu pilot.
Thats why I'm here to ask for advice :O
It is forbidden to kill.
Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
223
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:37:00 -
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Your first mistake was Tengu. Your second mistake was admitting to owning Tengu.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Mai Khumm
Omen Industries
-Entropy-
295
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:39:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:Stupid or trolling? Some from column A, some from column B.
Since EVE will be pay to win very soon. --> 65 Mil SP subcap pilot/45 Mil SP Caldari-Indy Cap pilot looking for Powerbloc Coalition... |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
227
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:40:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Your first mistake was Tengu. Your second mistake was admitting to owning Tengu.
why?
I got it from a bargain in Jita?
The ship was only 30 mil below market price :O
I guess since HML is getting nerfed soon, and I won't be using them on a Tengu, its not gonna affect me as bad.
Perfect time to jump onto the T3 wagon... or so I thought.
It is forbidden to kill.
Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1287
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:42:00 -
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You should fit more salvagers. 
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Robert De'Arneth
128
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:42:00 -
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Well to be frank, unless you have good skills that go with any ship you fly, you will be crap. Look at recomended certs and use that as your plan, you will need others, but the certs will keep you busy for a while. Simple rule just beause you can fly a hull, does not mean you should. And if you have crap support skills on a hull, you are just flying the hull not using it.
Also, on an ship or mod question, you would get more help if you went to the ship mod forum.
So advice, learn the differance between flying a hull and using a hull.
You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
Against ALL Anomalies
303
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:45:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Your first mistake was Tengu. Your second mistake was admitting to owning Tengu. why? I got it from a bargain in Jita? The ship was only 30 mil below market price :O I guess since HML is getting nerfed soon, and I won't be using them on a Tengu, its not gonna affect me as bad. Perfect time to jump onto the T3 wagon... or so I thought.
Well, it is a great time to enjoy their power before they get nerfed, thus pay less for them. In the future, after it had been nerfed, HAMs will be used over HMLs. I think that they will be more effective as well. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
227
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:46:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:Well to be frank, unless you have good skills that go with any ship you fly, you will be crap. Look at recomended certs and use that as your plan, you will need others, but the certs will keep you busy for a while. Simple rule just beause you can fly a hull, does not mean you should. And if you have crap support skills on a hull, you are just flying the hull not using it. Also, on an ship or mod question, you would get more help if you went to the ship mod forum. So advice, learn the differance between flying a hull and using a hull.
To fill in all the certs on the CORE and Missiles and stuff will take me at least 2 more years 
Is there a faster way around this?
It is forbidden to kill.
Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE
Initiative Mercenaries
175
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:46:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:The tengu does NOT have the ability to tank like a drakes does
That's weird. The PvE fit I came up with has a flat 1176 DPS tank against Guristas with 566 DPS on HMs. Guess I'm doing it wrong.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
223
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:48:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Your first mistake was Tengu. Your second mistake was admitting to owning Tengu. why? I got it from a bargain in Jita? The ship was only 30 mil below market price :O I guess since HML is getting nerfed soon, and I won't be using them on a Tengu, its not gonna affect me as bad. Perfect time to jump onto the T3 wagon... or so I thought.
Getting a bargain on something is usually the first sign that the product is bad, or being replaced by something better.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
227
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:49:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:The tengu does NOT have the ability to tank like a drakes does That's weird. The PvE fit I came up with has a flat 1176 DPS tank against Guristas with 566 DPS on HMs. Guess I'm doing it wrong.
only 566???
It is forbidden to kill.
Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
227
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:50:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Your first mistake was Tengu. Your second mistake was admitting to owning Tengu. why? I got it from a bargain in Jita? The ship was only 30 mil below market price :O I guess since HML is getting nerfed soon, and I won't be using them on a Tengu, its not gonna affect me as bad. Perfect time to jump onto the T3 wagon... or so I thought. Getting a bargain on something is usually the first sign that the product is bad.
well, they use to say T3 and caps are the endgame of EVE..... I don't see how is 566 dps gonna end anything :P
It is forbidden to kill.
Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Robert De'Arneth
128
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:50:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote:Well to be frank, unless you have good skills that go with any ship you fly, you will be crap. Look at recomended certs and use that as your plan, you will need others, but the certs will keep you busy for a while. Simple rule just beause you can fly a hull, does not mean you should. And if you have crap support skills on a hull, you are just flying the hull not using it. Also, on an ship or mod question, you would get more help if you went to the ship mod forum. So advice, learn the differance between flying a hull and using a hull. To fill in all the certs on the CORE and Missiles and stuff will take me at least 2 more years Is there a faster way around this?
No i am very sorry there really is not, while you can ignore the certs, for the most part they are right. go to lower cheaper hull, and work your way up. There are no shortcuts here that i know of. 
You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
227
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:51:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote:Well to be frank, unless you have good skills that go with any ship you fly, you will be crap. Look at recomended certs and use that as your plan, you will need others, but the certs will keep you busy for a while. Simple rule just beause you can fly a hull, does not mean you should. And if you have crap support skills on a hull, you are just flying the hull not using it. Also, on an ship or mod question, you would get more help if you went to the ship mod forum. So advice, learn the differance between flying a hull and using a hull. To fill in all the certs on the CORE and Missiles and stuff will take me at least 2 more years Is there a faster way around this? No i am very sorry there really is not, while you can ignore the certs, for the most part they are right. go to lower cheaper hull, and work your way up. There are no shortcuts here that i know of.
well.. I guess me and Drakey is gonna be stuck together for a while.
It is forbidden to kill.
Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE
Initiative Mercenaries
175
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:51:00 -
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Yep. |
Teibor
Quay Industries
CAStabouts
10
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:51:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote:Well to be frank, unless you have good skills that go with any ship you fly, you will be crap. Look at recomended certs and use that as your plan, you will need others, but the certs will keep you busy for a while. Simple rule just beause you can fly a hull, does not mean you should. And if you have crap support skills on a hull, you are just flying the hull not using it. Also, on an ship or mod question, you would get more help if you went to the ship mod forum. So advice, learn the differance between flying a hull and using a hull. To fill in all the certs on the CORE and Missiles and stuff will take me at least 2 more years Is there a faster way around this?
2 years to get -
- Core Comp Standard
- Active Shield Tanking standard
- Cruiser Launcher Control Standard
??? |
Robert De'Arneth
128
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:54:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote:Well to be frank, unless you have good skills that go with any ship you fly, you will be crap. Look at recomended certs and use that as your plan, you will need others, but the certs will keep you busy for a while. Simple rule just beause you can fly a hull, does not mean you should. And if you have crap support skills on a hull, you are just flying the hull not using it. Also, on an ship or mod question, you would get more help if you went to the ship mod forum. So advice, learn the differance between flying a hull and using a hull. To fill in all the certs on the CORE and Missiles and stuff will take me at least 2 more years Is there a faster way around this? No i am very sorry there really is not, while you can ignore the certs, for the most part they are right. go to lower cheaper hull, and work your way up. There are no shortcuts here that i know of. well.. I guess me and Drakey is gonna be stuck together for a while.
Just make a plan, and stick to it!! Time is on your side, if you have the time you can fly any ship in the game. Good luck and I think you made a good choice.
You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
227
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:55:00 -
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Teibor wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Robert De'Arneth wrote:Well to be frank, unless you have good skills that go with any ship you fly, you will be crap. Look at recomended certs and use that as your plan, you will need others, but the certs will keep you busy for a while. Simple rule just beause you can fly a hull, does not mean you should. And if you have crap support skills on a hull, you are just flying the hull not using it. Also, on an ship or mod question, you would get more help if you went to the ship mod forum. So advice, learn the differance between flying a hull and using a hull. To fill in all the certs on the CORE and Missiles and stuff will take me at least 2 more years Is there a faster way around this? 2 years to get - - Core Comp Standard - Active Shield Tanking standard - Cruiser Launcher Control Standard ???
lol standard?
I already have most of the stuff to standard, I mean to get to ELITE
It is forbidden to kill.
Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Kobal81
14th Legion
Eternal Evocations
17
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:56:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Kobal81 wrote:Only 300 DPS? Confirming your skills are sh**. ofc my skills are ****, but I don't want to go around wasting time on useless skills that'll be marginal at helping me becoming an effective tengu pilot. Thats why I'm here to ask for advice :O
Advises max out ur skills or Don't fly a T3 if your too lazy to train the skills needed to be effective. |
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