I am going to go ahead and give you an respectful reply.

CONCORD is a reactionary force. They do not really have the capacity to protect people from harm. The best they can do is jam and kill a group of enemy ships before they kill you. Please understand, this is how CONCORD is intended to work. They only react to aggression, and CONCORD will not take any preventative measures to protect you.

You are correct that, because of the above mechanics, a group of people with the right tactics and amount of force can find a way to kill your ship. They can find a way to do this with a high degree of accuracy, while minimizing their losses. These tactics can be sustainable, and sometimes profitable. CONCORD is not capable of preventing this type of scenario, because that is not their purpose. There are little things that you can do to protect yourself, but you probably understand this already and found these solutions to be ineffective.

The ultimate problem is you have little control of your own fate in high security space. It rests within the hands of CONCORD, and they punish any sort of unsanctioned aggression, even if it's preemptively in defense. Some people are better equipped to take that punishment, and some opportunities are worth that punishment, which seems to include your Mackinaw.

If Han shot first in empire space, he would get concordokken'ed.

But what is the core of your complaint? Do you think these opportunities should not be allowed to exist, or is it a problem with not being able to counter them? Is there a problem with mining ice in lower security space where you can better protect yourself from threats?

Don't expect much sympathy now with the buffed exhumers.

Does it ever occur to anyone to simply not mine/explore/fly/exist anywhere near goonspace?

Seriously. They want to run everything in their little empire? Fine, let them rule it by themselves. All by themselves. Alone. With no one else around. Move to the other side of the map. Let them have fun starting at their their sov map & shooting at rats until they all unsub from sheer boredom.

Does it ever occur to anyone to simply not mine/explore/fly/exist anywhere near goonspace?

Seriously. They want to run everything in their little empire? Fine, let them rule it by themselves. All by themselves. Alone. With no one else around. Move to the other side of the map. Let them have fun starting at their their sov map & shooting at rats until they all unsub from sheer boredom.

All space is goon space. It is also a liquid.

From a combination of too much mountain dew and rule 34

Does anyone mine here or what?

You getting bumped? set your ship to an orbit, when your cargo hold is full dump the stuff in station. Or use the help of the ORCA.

All space is goon space.

I have already lost TWO MACKINAWS!!!

I'm only posting on an alt so i don't get hunted down and killed AGAIN.

I am so tired of this.

How are we supposed to mine like this?

Bingo box: 4 across, 4 down.

Meanwhile, back in reality... in the last year I think I've spotted maybe two goonships pass by. While I don't doubt for a moment the manpower & firepower they can bring to bear when they want to, the fact is they can't be everywhere at once. No one can. An alliance has 1500 people? Yes that is truly Impressive, but the map has over 7500 star systems. Do the math.

Yeah, all miners should orbit because it still doesn't work.

Yeap, seriously guys from a Miner perspective STFU & HTFU! We got the buff now deal with it!

If you cant take it 2nd Life is that 'a way! --->>>

Confirming orbiting icicles does not make you invulnerable to bumping, ask anybody in Halaima & more recently Tolle.

It's called leading the target, much as you would do in clay pigeon shooting.

This will likely ensure that CCP looks into the somewhat immersion breaking bumping mechanics we currently enjoy in EVE.

This will likely ensure that CCP looks into the somewhat immersion breaking bumping mechanics we currently enjoy in EVE.

Bugger , although leading the target is based on real world physics so technically its not completely immersion breaking. What is immersion breaking is the size of the collision area on rocks and ice, if I'm 500-1000m from a rock I shouldn't bounce off the thing.

EHRMAGHERD BERMPENGHS

Depends where the distance sensor is on a ship 800m long.

..also, calling or suggesting players are stupid when you're a Dev is bad. This particular form of meme is intended to suggest the person it is directed at is stupid, while also implying that people with speech impediments are stupid. win-win?

Plus, a Skiff gives you a bit more piece of mind, which makes the 30 or so minutes in-between station runs more relaxing.

Doesn't CCP realize this is making it almost impossible to mine Ice?

I have already lost TWO MACKINAWS!!!

I'm only posting on an alt so i don't get hunted down and killed AGAIN.

I am so tired of this.

How are we supposed to mine like this?


I hate those stupid goons.

Now That's What I Call Edgy Part 9001!

Aren't you just so hard core?

Not really. I just don't understand why people choose to mine in the same systems Goons are killing Miners in, and then complain about being ganked. If it was me, I'd just move over to another system, most likely in another empire.

Not really. I just don't understand why people choose to mine in the same systems Goons are killing Miners in, and then complain about being ganked. If it was me, I'd just move over to another system, most likely in another empire.

Adapting is tough. I can see it from their way. Why are they allowed to be bullied from where they want to be and where they can make the most profits? Why should THEIR gameplay style change because some douche wants to ruin someone's day?