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Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion
Mildly Sober
13
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:26:00 -
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I've been yelling about this afk business a long time now and it's always the same.
PVP people cry that you will take their only advantage away or some other bs and the industrialists cry that they can't make isks or that they can't find the idiotic AFK idiots.
solution: remove local
Everyone wins. Even the stupid devs that don't do nothing about this. |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
133
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:43:00 -
[92] - Quote
Azrael Dinn wrote:I've been yelling about this afk business a long time now and it's always the same.
PVP people cry that you will take their only advantage away or some other bs and the industrialists cry that they can't make isks or that they can't find the idiotic AFK idiots.
solution: remove local
Everyone wins. Even the stupid devs that don't do nothing about this.
There is no alternative for local as vital intel tool in nullsec yet. If there is any, then removing local could be an option. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
455
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:55:00 -
[93] - Quote
I don't see why local is so "vital" for nullsec anyway. Wouldn't intel channels and players active in systems basically give you the same intel anyway (just not handed on a silver platter)? |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
133
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:05:00 -
[94] - Quote
TheGunslinger42 wrote:I don't see why local is so "vital" for nullsec anyway.
Sure you can't see because you don't live in null.
Quote:Wouldn't intel channels and players active in systems basically give you the same intel anyway (just not handed on a silver platter)?
Sure not. And that's the point. |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
141
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:06:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:People whine about AFK cloakers because they can't just deal with it and move to another system.
Whining about whiners doesn`t make you better. |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion
Mildly Sober
14
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:12:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:People whine about AFK cloakers because they can't just deal with it and move to another system.
I actualy whine about AFK cloakers cause there are no possible ways to go and kill them. If there is one please tell me it now and I'll go and test it.
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:Azrael Dinn wrote:I've been yelling about this afk business a long time now and it's always the same.
PVP people cry that you will take their only advantage away or some other bs and the industrialists cry that they can't make isks or that they can't find the idiotic AFK idiots.
solution: remove local
Everyone wins. Even the stupid devs that don't do nothing about this. There is no alternative for local as vital intel tool in nullsec yet. If there is any, then removing local could be an option.
I wonder how the people in wormholes survive if there are no other ways to gather intel...  |
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
Quantum Cafe
108
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:30:00 -
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Here we go again. Someone coming on the forums rage-posting because they got too comfortable.
1) How do you KNOW they are AFK as opposed to extremely patient?
2) If they were AFK and canot see what you are doing, why are you worried about them attacking you?
Your thinking fails. Your playing fails.
Living in a WH we have no local to "warn" us someone is there, so I forget how silly this crap is.
You talk about real PVP? Having a magical chat box that warns your panzy @ss that people are in your precious system is about as PVP adverse as it gets.
CCP - Please remove local real time updates across the board It serves no purpose.
Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
133
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:39:00 -
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Azrael Dinn wrote:I wonder how the people in wormholes survive if there are no other ways to gather intel...
With one system it might work. Now lets calculate a region with 100 systems with 3 or 4 gates each.... |
Dervinus
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
96
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:40:00 -
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Not to worry friend, always assume that AFK cloakies are not at the keyboard and go about your business as usual.
o7 toonies |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
456
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Posted - 2012.10.30 15:09:00 -
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Rordan D'Kherr wrote:Sure you can't see because you don't live in null.
I used to, a long long time ago. I'll admit I haven't been part of the big null alliance shenanigans in years though, so care to jog my memory, if not enlighten me entirely. WHY is it so "vital"?
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:Without local surely not. And that's the point.
I think this is incorrect, since gathering intel on people - who, roughly how many, where, etc - without local is something that hundreds, if not thousands, of us do every day in wormholes. I have to believe it'd be even easier in nullsec, as the routes are fixed and easier to scout, and how it's inherently harder to hide giant fleets that you see only in null
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Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
215
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Posted - 2012.10.30 15:11:00 -
[101] - Quote
Jesus, this again?!?!!? Don't any of you know how to use the Search function?!?! |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
457
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Posted - 2012.10.30 15:17:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Jesus, this again?!?!!? Don't any of you know how to use the Search function?!?!
I think they're just the newest bots. It used to be:
bot sits ratting/mining in null
none-blue jumps into local
bot warps to pos
now it's:
bot sits ratting/mining in null
none-blue jumps into local
bot warps to pos
bot posts "REMOVE AFK CLOAKZ" on forums |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
133
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Posted - 2012.10.30 15:27:00 -
[103] - Quote
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
I think this is incorrect, since gathering intel on people - who, roughly how many, where, etc - without local is something that hundreds, if not thousands, of us do every day in wormholes. I have to believe it'd be even easier in nullsec, as the routes are fixed and easier to scout, and how it's inherently harder to hide giant fleets that you see only in null
Once again: Might work in a single system / wormhole. But not in a region with thousands of gates. Players writing in Intel channels you might think. Yeah, but that info comes from local too 
Even the biggest alliance could not keep up any intel in a region by players only because every gate (say 100 systems with at least 3 gates each) would need an active character sitting, watching, counting for 23.5/7. You might get the point now.
So, removing local completely is not the way. Remove cloakies from local might be another story. |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion
Mildly Sober
17
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Posted - 2012.11.02 11:04:00 -
[104] - Quote
Ginger Barbarella wrote:Jesus, this again?!?!!? Don't any of you know how to use the Search function?!?!
It's easier to make new ones :) |
Dar Manic
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 13:37:00 -
[105] - Quote
AFK stealth pilots = not a problem = close thread
I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
157
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:12:00 -
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AFK people = not a problem = close thread = use forum search before starting new topic
_______________________________________
Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.-á |
Kenneth O'Hara
Bareback Pornstars
Fade 2 Black
3361
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:29:00 -
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Tired of pointless and whinny threads such as this one? Click on the link in my sig... My people will call your people.
Best thread ever!!!
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke |
XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War
Union 0f Revolution
18
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:20:00 -
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Hocico wrote:Hi,
what can we do against afk stelth pilots in 0.0 ? Nothing !!!
She wait any hours and we cant mining, ratting ore others.... attacks comes only vs mining Barges ore infight Ships and are rar....
CCP we need a tactic against this idiots.... thats not pvp.
AFK waiting for 4 ore more hours is an Exploit.
Hoc
Maybe its time ccp delay local like in WH Space. There you have to rely on scouts and dscan to survive. Although I think most in nullsec will complain about a delayed local. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
1035
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:22:00 -
[109] - Quote
Durr remove null local durr
www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
The Paganism Alliance
95
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Posted - 2012.11.02 23:02:00 -
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I dont care as long as I can take a toilet break for free. I am NOT paying for cloak fuel and that's the end of it. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
Intrepid Crossing
84
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Posted - 2012.11.03 13:50:00 -
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AFK cloakers are meh,,,, OP needs to HTFU.
But here's my thoughts on it, i'd sure love to shoot cloakers who find themselves trapped in a system or if they are indeed AFK,, why,, well because i like to shoot anyting that's not supposed to be in our space.
true balance (if we are all honest) is them being able to cloak and others being able with some skills and the right ship to find them and melt their face.
i love cloaks, i use them a alot myself, but it is true that the current cloaking mechanics are broken, i'm not agreeing with the OP, i'm just making a point.
everything should have a counter to it, no counter makes something unfair. so before you jump on my comments with your size 12 virtual boots, i'm talking about the cloaking device not the ship it's fitted to. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
Intrepid Crossing
84
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Posted - 2012.11.03 13:54:00 -
[112] - Quote
Dar Manic wrote:AFK stealth pilots = not a problem = close thread
>>> CLICK ME <<< not a problem,, lol
Still think the OP should HTFU ! |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
157
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Posted - 2012.11.03 14:43:00 -
[113] - Quote
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Dar Manic wrote:AFK stealth pilots = not a problem = close thread >>> CLICK ME <<< not a problem,, lol
Hmm, moving mouse, clicking modules, voices on comms.... these guys are NOT afk, dude.
afk means to be away from keyboard. not there. not able to click or type or speak. away.
_______________________________________
Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.-á |
Praxis Ginimic
73
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Posted - 2012.11.03 14:52:00 -
[114] - Quote
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Dar Manic wrote:AFK stealth pilots = not a problem = close thread >>> CLICK ME <<< not a problem,, lol Still think the OP should HTFU !
That was quite enjoyable. torps are now in the q. |
Dar Manic
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:45:00 -
[115] - Quote
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Dar Manic wrote:AFK stealth pilots = not a problem = close thread >>> CLICK ME <<< not a problem,, lol Hmm, moving mouse, clicking modules, voices on comms.... these guys are NOT afk, dude. afk means to be away from keyboard. not there. not able to click or type or speak. away.
This.
Why is AFK a problem when cloaked? How do you know they are AFK? If they are AFK, how do they harm you? Is it that your bot safes up when a non-blue shows up in local?
I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |
Melodee619
The Scope
Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.11.04 03:54:00 -
[116] - Quote
Just gob smacks me how you all want eve to be another wow, where there is no risk, an everything is handed to you on a plate.
0.0 is NEVER be safe. If you want to mine in the open in 0.0 thne get escorts. You should NEVER be immune to death in 0.0.
It's bad enough that HS is now nothing but carebears skipping through the bloody flowers.
A single SB cant kill you if you have half a brain. CCP have done enough damage to HS by pandering to these fools who scream it isnt fair!!, waaa I am at risk.....
You want the profits of 0.0 without any risk, then why play eve... you can get that in wow. |
Kairos Antilles
Cerulean Eagles
Li3 Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.11.04 04:08:00 -
[117] - Quote
Melodee619 wrote:Just gob smacks me how you all want eve to be another wow, where there is no risk, an everything is handed to you on a plate.
0.0 is NEVER be safe. If you want to mine in the open in 0.0 thne get escorts. You should NEVER be immune to death in 0.0.
It's bad enough that HS is now nothing but carebears skipping through the bloody flowers.
A single SB cant kill you if you have half a brain. CCP have done enough damage to HS by pandering to these fools who scream it isnt fair!!, waaa I am at risk.....
You want the profits of 0.0 without any risk, then why play eve... you can get that in wow.
Oh hai, Melodee - the voice of reason in The Scope. Spot on, as always... |
Julius Priscus
8
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Posted - 2012.11.04 04:13:00 -
[118] - Quote
do one of the following.
1. dock up
2. rat in another system
3. log out
4. not allowed to tell you the last one.. |
Melodee619
The Scope
Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.11.04 04:15:00 -
[119] - Quote
Kairos Antilles wrote:Melodee619 wrote:Just gob smacks me how you all want eve to be another wow, where there is no risk, an everything is handed to you on a plate.
0.0 is NEVER be safe. If you want to mine in the open in 0.0 thne get escorts. You should NEVER be immune to death in 0.0.
It's bad enough that HS is now nothing but carebears skipping through the bloody flowers.
A single SB cant kill you if you have half a brain. CCP have done enough damage to HS by pandering to these fools who scream it isnt fair!!, waaa I am at risk.....
You want the profits of 0.0 without any risk, then why play eve... you can get that in wow. Oh hai, Melodee - the voice of reason in The Scope. Spot on, as always...
lol I do try:) |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
Intrepid Crossing
84
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Posted - 2012.11.05 11:36:00 -
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Rordan D'Kherr wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Dar Manic wrote:AFK stealth pilots = not a problem = close thread >>> CLICK ME <<< not a problem,, lol Hmm, moving mouse, clicking modules, voices on comms.... these guys are NOT afk, dude. afk means to be away from keyboard. not there. not able to click or type or speak. away.
the single pilot who dropped the cyno seemed to be AFK before they struck was the point. but meh, you knew that already. |
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