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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
897
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Posted - 2012.11.20 05:52:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Gotch Urarse wrote:This is one n00b who got to covert-ops, decided to duck into null, had to go afk (RL family issue), warped cloaked to 100km of a moon (I did have probes out)... returned to a few nice guys who made sure I took a quick/safe trip back to my clone.
Soooo.... AFK stealth isn't so AFK stealth -OR- I'm a dumb a$$. (my ISK is on the latter)
That said, refitting and heading back out. The thrill out here is way to much fun. If you warped to 100, and sat there, honestly people will usually check by warping to stuff at 0 or 100, so they guessed and decloaked you. Next time, set your ship to move (upwards) at full speed and they shouldn't be able to do that. Or use a safespot.
Confirming: I check planets at those ranges. Learn to make a safe spot, or alternatively uncloak, pulse your mwd once and cloak back up and just travel in a direction. |

Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
271
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Posted - 2012.11.20 08:07:00 -
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Hocico wrote:Hi,
what can we do against afk stelth pilots in 0.0 ? Nothing !!!
She wait any hours and we cant mining, ratting ore others.... attacks comes only vs mining Barges ore infight Ships and are rar....
CCP we need a tactic against this idiots.... thats not pvp.
AFK waiting for 4 ore more hours is an Exploit.
Hoc
Hatch a plan and kill and pod him you sad excuse for a capsuleer. Or go back to sitting and crying in station that the nasty cloaked person is cloaked and nasty.
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Kno Smo
Deutsche Lichtbringer AG
1
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Posted - 2012.11.20 09:12:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:/bangs head at keyboard.
- Hey OP, how do you know he is AFK? - And if he's indeed AFK, how can he possibly shoot you?
Is it possible that a lot People on this froum don't understand that AFK means "away from keyboard"?
Looks like pple think AFK means "Person doesn't behave like I want them to behave"... no idea where you the the A and F and K in this sentence :). Wir (alle 25+ Jahre alt) suchen Mitspieler, m+¦glichst (aber nicht nur) mit Headset (Teamspeak 3). Corp-Mitgliedschaft ist NICHT notwendig! Einfach zusammen Zocken und Erfahrungen austauschen ist das Ziel. Teamspeak-Server: 213.202.206.161?port=5065 |

Ripperljohn
New Eden Renegades Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
46
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Posted - 2012.11.20 09:30:00 -
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EVE General: because no1 in german forums gives a **** about OP
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Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
273
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Posted - 2012.11.20 11:03:00 -
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Kno Smo wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:/bangs head at keyboard.
- Hey OP, how do you know he is AFK? - And if he's indeed AFK, how can he possibly shoot you?
Is it possible that a lot People on this froum don't understand that AFK means "away from keyboard"? Looks like pple think AFK means "Person doesn't behave like I want them to behave"... no idea where you the the A and F and K in this sentence :).
That sentence has an A and a K
.|.. There's your F If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if i'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |

Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
284
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Posted - 2012.11.20 12:23:00 -
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Ripperljohn wrote:EVE General: because no1 in german forums gives a **** about OP
And CCP sure as hell aint reading the German forums.
Most people who come here have a fantastic notion they are talking to CCP employees. I'm guilty.
LOL |

Random Woman
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.20 12:35:00 -
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Get rid of local, AFK cloaking problem solved. If you dont see it you cant whine about it |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
702
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Posted - 2012.11.20 12:47:00 -
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Afk cloakies are not a problem.
If they are afk they can not hurt you. If your afraid they may come out of afk and gank you, then move to another system to rat or mine. If they follow you, they're not afk and as such you can form a fleet to catch them. Interdictor and an interceptor with drones assigned will catch them most times.
If you live in a vaguely busy system you don't even need to change system, just get everyone who is active into a standing fleet so that everyone in system is in the same fleet. Then even the PvErs can turn up to help. Right click, warp to. That is presuming of course, that your on coms. If your in null and not in coms then that's your own fault.
If your not trying to catch this person, then your not defending your system and as such you don't deserve to be safe. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

rothmal
Generation Dead Shadow of Fate
3
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Posted - 2012.11.20 13:20:00 -
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psycho freak wrote:I allways thought thats what cloaks were for to be sneaky and wait out your target before attacking when not expected hmmm i must be mistaken
no way man your supposed to tell everyone in local that your in the system looking for pvp and put meme's like webed and Who is the Bombers Bar? after you kill them. |

Ix Aideron
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:03:00 -
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The cloaked individual remains in an AFK state and non-AFK state until the cloak is removed! To test this, I put my pet cat, Schrodinger, in a cloaky ship................ |

Probebly Afk Cloaking
No Self Esteem Malefic Aspects
8
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:32:00 -
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working as intended |

Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
221
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:33:00 -
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Random Woman wrote:Get rid of local, AFK cloaking problem solved. If you dont see it you cant whine about it
If there wouldn't by the colateral downsides...
_______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade Intrepid Crossing
496
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:38:00 -
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Quick, dock up and stop posting! Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't. |

Kenneth O'Hara
Bareback Pornstars Fade 2 Black
6427
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:39:00 -
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Funny how you don't hear about this kind of stuff in wormholes. Best thread ever!!!
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke |

Alice Saki
Mug of Coffee
20149
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:44:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Funny how you don't hear about this kind of stuff in wormholes.
^^  http://i.imgur.com/vXey1.png |

MasterEnt
The Scope Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:46:00 -
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Hocico wrote:Hi, What can we do against afk stelth pilots in 0.0 ? Nothing !!! She wait any hours and we cant mining, ratting ore others.... attacks comes only vs mining Barges ore infight Ships and are rar.... CCP we need a tactic against this idiots.... thats not pvp. AFK waiting for 4 ore more hours is an Exploit.
Here we go again, you mean you can't mine or rat SOLO. And PLEASE inform us how you KNOW they are AFK as opposed to Extremely Patient. Please tell us because on one hand you say they are waiting 4 hours, then you say they are AFK, which means they are NOT waiting.
I know PLENTY of players who are that patient for a kill, so need some proof. Not to mention, cloaked ships can't target or shoot.
Besides, you DO have a tactic... and even a strategy. It's not really up to CCP to spell out either for you considering the whole "sandbox" theme, but it involves having friends and laying a wait-and-bait.
This ia good scenario in which delayed local would work: - You would not be scared by a magical local pop-up, especially of a ship supposedly covert-ops. - They would not know if you had friends waiting to bail you out.
Either way, the point is to roll with a crew. |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
101
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:13:00 -
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scram / disruptor on the barge
a couple cloaked bombers or recons near it waiting.. problem solved..
it's also worth mentionining:
if he is AFK, you have nothing to fear from him if he is not AFK, then he is engaging in legitimate pvp.
stop whining and learn to play. you are in NULL SEC if you want relative safety go mine in HIGH SEC
ffs |

Blind Phew
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:28:00 -
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Hocico wrote:CCP we need a tactic against this idiots.... thats not pvp. The only idiot here is you. This stupid whine has been hashed to death. The cloaker is getting the desired effect which is you crapping. If you are afraid of someone who is AFK there isn't much hope for the future...
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Virtuous Death
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:29:00 -
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Quote:AFK Stealth Pilots in 0.0 meaning pilot is AWAY FROM KEYBOARD meaning he cant hurt you. OP loses. |

Wodan Re
The Intelligence Agency
1
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:41:00 -
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Why not make defeating AFK cloakers a game mechanic.
Have a very large POS module external of shields create some form of interference that has a small chance to decloak anything in the system every 30 mins when running.
Could consume some form of fuel (Isotope) each cycle.
But needs to be very bulking as basically it would be a huge generator. Then you could scan them done as normal |

Wodan Re
The Intelligence Agency
1
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Posted - 2012.11.28 23:02:00 -
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Wodan Re wrote:Why not make defeating AFK cloakers a game mechanic.
Have a very large POS module external of shields create some form of interference that has a small chance to decloak anything in the system every 30 mins when running.
Could consume some form of fuel (Isotope) each cycle.
But needs to be very bulking as basically it would be a huge generator. Then you could scan them down as normal. As a POS module make it not need to be tied to Sov so could be used in Lowsec also.
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Singoth
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
133
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Posted - 2012.11.28 23:06:00 -
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Once I was scared of AFK cloakers. Then I thought: screw it, they're AFK anyway, I'll go back to mining/ratting/derping around.
What threat do they pose, hmm? What are you afraid of? Capital bubble dropped on you? Stop kidding yourself, as if that happens on a regular basis. Less yappin', more zappin'! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1803
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Posted - 2012.11.28 23:08:00 -
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1. Get to enemy system 2. Use cloaking device 3. ??? No idea, I'm AFK 4. Collect tears
Just like afk mining~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
884
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Posted - 2012.11.28 23:11:00 -
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People who are AFK are by definition not a threat since they are AFK and hence not going to shoot you. So what's the issue?
What youre actually scared of is that they are NOT AFK and will shoot you. In which case, they are not AFK and hence don't fall into the category of AFK cloaker.
You see where your argument falls apart right? |

Wodan Re
The Intelligence Agency
1
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Posted - 2012.11.28 23:31:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:People who are AFK are by definition not a threat since they are AFK and hence not going to shoot you. So what's the issue?
What youre actually scared of is that they are NOT AFK and will shoot you. In which case, they are not AFK and hence don't fall into the category of AFK cloaker.
You see where your argument falls apart right? Have you actually ever been to Nullsec. An AFK cloaky is rarely fully AFK |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1803
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Posted - 2012.11.28 23:38:00 -
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EVE Online: Cloaking is Magic Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
884
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Posted - 2012.11.29 00:07:00 -
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Wodan Re wrote:Jack Miton wrote:People who are AFK are by definition not a threat since they are AFK and hence not going to shoot you. So what's the issue?
What youre actually scared of is that they are NOT AFK and will shoot you. In which case, they are not AFK and hence don't fall into the category of AFK cloaker.
You see where your argument falls apart right? Have you actually ever been to Nullsec. An AFK cloaky is rarely fully AFK
and hence, NOT an AFK cloaky, like i said. |

Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
192
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Posted - 2012.11.29 00:15:00 -
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Of your are in null.sec and can't handle afk cloakers it is a good indication that you are not ready for null sec. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1803
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Posted - 2012.11.29 00:20:00 -
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So we've agreed local has to be nerfed, right? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Nylith Empyreal
Crowbar Industries.
165
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Posted - 2012.11.29 00:27:00 -
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Troll successful? "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
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