Solutions dont include learn the game. Thats old and lame. Post something exciting.

Solution 1: fit a tank

Solutions dont include learn the game. Thats old and lame.

How does one fit a tank on a freighter?

Gang bonuses and logis immediately spring to mind.

Sorry, but that IS the answer, learn the game. Let the haulers get blown up, they'll learn eventually. Well, some of them will learn.

How does one fit a tank on a freighter? My problem is with freighters, not ganking. They are one size fits all, with no choice what so ever. Freighters should have their base cargo halved, and then get some low and mid slots. Let the pilot decide if they want a tank or a massive cargo hold or some kind of happy medium. With the exceptions of shuttles, I don't approve of having ships with no fittings. Ships with no fittings don't give carebears enough rope to hang themselves with lol-fits.

I think that there should be more information about piracy, griefing, scamming and ganking in the initial tutorial. I feel at the moment, that the EVE new player experience does not prepare people enough for the player-driven events.

All of that is pointless until every person that logs into EVE the first time is forced to do the tutorial.

I think it's safe to assume that a very large number of people start playing EVE and never bother doing the tutorial, just based on the amount of times people are told in NPC corp chat to "do the tutorial".

Not to mention that two tutorials require you to get blown up and and a lot of people still don't ******* get it.

Gankers just want their risk free money. Just be less efficient/use more freighters until they get bored.

Gankers just want their risk free money. Just be less efficient/use more freighters until they get bored.

Risk free isk?


By risk free isk you mean being forced to willingly have a ship blown up?

You and I must have entirely different ideas of "risk free". To me risk free isk is being able to fly around high sec knowing that you can make yourelf ungankable or just knowing that gankingis such a pain in the ass that your pretty much guaranteed to not be ganked.


Not to meniton knowing that when I don't stuff my hold with billions of ISK in valuable that I can fly around high sec with no worry of being targetted by another player. That sounds a lot more risk free to me than commiting suidice.

The frieghter by it's very nature will be profitable to gank when enough crap is stuffed in it. Reducing the cargo hold and increasing it's tank to make it worthless to gank is not the solution and just amounts to attempting to eliminate yet more pvp from high sec.

Gankers just want their risk free money. Just be less efficient/use more freighters until they get bored.

to yes, the would rather you jet your cargo for them. however they're more than happy to blow you up if you're stupid enough to stick 20bn isk in a charon and auto pilot to the arse end of nowhere.

Willingly having your ship blown up isn't a risk. It is an operating cost. The mechanics allow the gankers to mitigate the risk almost entirely. The gankers know how much they are going to spend before the freighter pilot even knows they are a target. The only "risk" is things not dropping which puts it on the same plane as PvE and hoping for officer drops.


For freighter pilots the only way to mitigate the chance of being ganked is to be less efficient. Basically a ganker is asking for a person to give up their time or risk having their day ruined by someone who thinks leet PvP is bumping a ship until his friends in their pre purchased ships can show up and blow them up.

Not risk free though. Your suggestion is correct though. Adapt or die (wo0tage, I got to use that phrase for once!!)

See "Waste your time or be killed. Either way gankers ruin your day."


I run 3 freighters in High Sec and a Jump Freighter when I need it. I have never been ganked. It doesn't mean making 3 trips instead of 1 isn't really freaking annoying.

What is the risk though? Ganks have two outcomes. Target dies or target lives. If the target lives it is because the gankers failed in the planning phase. That isn't a risk; it is a mistake. There is nothing a target can do other than make themselves a less appetizing target. I already do this. It doesn't make ganking a risky occupation though.

I'm sorry. That sucks. You have to be "less efficient" or more gankable.

Geez, how dare you have to decide between hauling more and getting ganked and hauling less and not getting ganked. To heck with CCP for doing that to you, the horror of it.

I mean the least they could do is make other ships have to be "less efficient" or more gankable. Why don't miners have to do this, why don't PvE'ers have to do this. I mean it seems so unfair that you would have to actively decide between being more efficient at the cost of increased risk or less efficient and knowing that no one is going to blow you up.


Gosh dang it CCP, stop making people have to "make decisions" and just let them do it all.






Seriously, that's frigging pathetic. Cry more man.

See "Waste your time or be killed. Either way gankers ruin your day."


I run 3 freighters in High Sec and a Jump Freighter when I need it. I have never been ganked. It doesn't mean making 3 trips instead of 1 isn't really freaking annoying.