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Don Rumata
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Posted - 2003.12.24 10:48:00 - [31]

Love this idea, would bring a whole new facet to Eve!! Come on Devs... Take a look at this :)
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Posted - 2003.12.24 10:48:00 - [32]

Love this idea, would bring a whole new facet to Eve!! Come on Devs... Take a look at this :)
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Posted - 2003.12.24 11:28:00 - [33]

yes it would be nice indeed Love the idea

even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Posted - 2003.12.24 11:28:00 - [34]

yes it would be nice indeed Love the idea

even the paranoid has real enemies...
Darsk'hul
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Posted - 2003.12.24 12:33:00 - [35]

You've got my vote !
Good idea for me
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Posted - 2003.12.24 12:33:00 - [36]

You've got my vote !
Good idea for me
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Posted - 2003.12.26 11:05:00 - [37]

Oups ! i've bumped Wink
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Posted - 2003.12.26 11:05:00 - [38]

Oups ! i've bumped Wink
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Asharee Intrefer
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Posted - 2003.12.26 19:24:00 - [39]

It's a nice idea, but I see one flaw in the logic: Why wouldn't an unpowered hunk of metal show up on scan, when the regular (and certainly unpowered) roid does?
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Gallente
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Posted - 2003.12.26 19:24:00 - [40]

It's a nice idea, but I see one flaw in the logic: Why wouldn't an unpowered hunk of metal show up on scan, when the regular (and certainly unpowered) roid does?
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Posted - 2003.12.26 21:08:00 - [41]

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Yep . that's the idea .. picture this:

"A 'lone' miner is busy drilling holes in a Jaspet rock. He has 'miner 1' so it's going to take a while - which can be dangerous in this 0.3 security sector. You never know who's going to turn up.

Low and behold, the asteroid belt shudders to the sync signature of two cruisers dropping out of warp. They take no time at all to turn their attention to the lone miner, after all he/she is easy prey with a nice cargo load and only a miner 1 and a few sharp words for defence. They lock on, quickly routing the helpless Indy to the spot with a good dose of 'warp scramble' and 'stasis webifier'.

The Indy is doomed - no doubt - and a podding is on the cards. He/she knew that it was a bad idea to mine the sector - after all, these pirates had claimed the roid belts as their own hunting grounds for the last two weeks and the evidence was strewn across miles of space in the form of burnt out pods, looted cargo containers and twisted capital class super structure.

As they closed in for the kill, the pirate corp were far too complacent about their next 'easy meat' kill to notice the Maller and Omen class cruisers gently powering up from deep within the belt ... 5 in total. The first they knew about it was when they received a lock on warning - but that was only seconds before the heavy beam lasers carved great holes through their hull and armour plating ... and with the volley of gremlin fire incoming, they didn't even have the power in their capacitors to jump to the nearest gate.

Begging for mercy in their pods didn't seem to help much ... pretty soon it was over.

The Indy smiled then got on the Com ... "Nice work people, seems like our job here is done. We have another similar job in Kador system, lets move out". With that, the fleet jumped from the belt.

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There you have it ... Power Down (and power up if we ever want to get the ships started again without getting out and pushing them). It would work just as well for Pirates.

Of course - a powered down ship would be one without shields or sensors - which means that if they are found then they are easy prey.

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MeanMofo
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Posted - 2003.12.26 21:08:00 - [42]

Quote:
Yep . that's the idea .. picture this:

"A 'lone' miner is busy drilling holes in a Jaspet rock. He has 'miner 1' so it's going to take a while - which can be dangerous in this 0.3 security sector. You never know who's going to turn up.

Low and behold, the asteroid belt shudders to the sync signature of two cruisers dropping out of warp. They take no time at all to turn their attention to the lone miner, after all he/she is easy prey with a nice cargo load and only a miner 1 and a few sharp words for defence. They lock on, quickly routing the helpless Indy to the spot with a good dose of 'warp scramble' and 'stasis webifier'.

The Indy is doomed - no doubt - and a podding is on the cards. He/she knew that it was a bad idea to mine the sector - after all, these pirates had claimed the roid belts as their own hunting grounds for the last two weeks and the evidence was strewn across miles of space in the form of burnt out pods, looted cargo containers and twisted capital class super structure.

As they closed in for the kill, the pirate corp were far too complacent about their next 'easy meat' kill to notice the Maller and Omen class cruisers gently powering up from deep within the belt ... 5 in total. The first they knew about it was when they received a lock on warning - but that was only seconds before the heavy beam lasers carved great holes through their hull and armour plating ... and with the volley of gremlin fire incoming, they didn't even have the power in their capacitors to jump to the nearest gate.

Begging for mercy in their pods didn't seem to help much ... pretty soon it was over.

The Indy smiled then got on the Com ... "Nice work people, seems like our job here is done. We have another similar job in Kador system, lets move out". With that, the fleet jumped from the belt.

------------

There you have it ... Power Down (and power up if we ever want to get the ships started again without getting out and pushing them). It would work just as well for Pirates.

Of course - a powered down ship would be one without shields or sensors - which means that if they are found then they are easy prey.

Just a thought .. brought to you by :








I LOVE IT!!!!!

Eisha
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Posted - 2003.12.26 22:14:00 - [43]

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Isn't stuff like white noise ECM, supposed to do the same thing?

I haven't got into electronic warfare yet, but looking at some of the kit, it looks to me as if you can kit a ship out to be nigh on radar invisible. Unless the player 'sees' you and clicks on you, you don't see the "here l am" crosshair. Correct me if l'm wrong.

It would be a good idea used as an added effect to existing stealth technology, but it shouldn't be an easy replacement for it.
After all, a rock is pretty inert and you can still pick that up and scan it.



I'm just now getting into it myself, but it seems to that your hud gives you these nice bracets with the players name. I've even seen them on ships that are "invincable". So some clarification on how this stuff works would be nice.

Still, the White Noise ECM say's, "Hey I'm setting a trap here!" Where the power down is just that. Silent.



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Posted - 2003.12.26 22:14:00 - [44]

Quote:
Isn't stuff like white noise ECM, supposed to do the same thing?

I haven't got into electronic warfare yet, but looking at some of the kit, it looks to me as if you can kit a ship out to be nigh on radar invisible. Unless the player 'sees' you and clicks on you, you don't see the "here l am" crosshair. Correct me if l'm wrong.

It would be a good idea used as an added effect to existing stealth technology, but it shouldn't be an easy replacement for it.
After all, a rock is pretty inert and you can still pick that up and scan it.



I'm just now getting into it myself, but it seems to that your hud gives you these nice bracets with the players name. I've even seen them on ships that are "invincable". So some clarification on how this stuff works would be nice.

Still, the White Noise ECM say's, "Hey I'm setting a trap here!" Where the power down is just that. Silent.



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thats how the light gets in." -Lenord Cohen
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Posted - 2003.12.26 22:18:00 - [45]

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It's a nice idea, but I see one flaw in the logic: Why wouldn't an unpowered hunk of metal show up on scan, when the regular (and certainly unpowered) roid does?


Those are active scanners, specificly for astroids. For the most part your using passive scanners, taking in what comes to you and interpriting it. Active scanners have range limits, though if your in range of a silent ship that you haven't already spotted then I suppose it would show up.



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thats how the light gets in." -Lenord Cohen
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Posted - 2003.12.26 22:18:00 - [46]

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It's a nice idea, but I see one flaw in the logic: Why wouldn't an unpowered hunk of metal show up on scan, when the regular (and certainly unpowered) roid does?


Those are active scanners, specificly for astroids. For the most part your using passive scanners, taking in what comes to you and interpriting it. Active scanners have range limits, though if your in range of a silent ship that you haven't already spotted then I suppose it would show up.



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Sicori Malaki
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Posted - 2003.12.27 07:24:00 - [47]

I absolutely love this idea, would give Pirate hunting another meaning, easy to set traps, and would make everyone in low-sec systems paranoid,

Really hope the Dev's pick up this thread,

but how does the White Noise thingie work?
I have the skill to use it but I can't seem to find it anywhere where I am :(
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Posted - 2003.12.27 07:24:00 - [48]

I absolutely love this idea, would give Pirate hunting another meaning, easy to set traps, and would make everyone in low-sec systems paranoid,

Really hope the Dev's pick up this thread,

but how does the White Noise thingie work?
I have the skill to use it but I can't seem to find it anywhere where I am :(
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Mr Raine
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Posted - 2003.12.27 08:19:00 - [49]

Good idea worthy of a bump.
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Posted - 2003.12.27 08:19:00 - [50]

Good idea worthy of a bump.
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Posted - 2003.12.28 13:12:00 - [51]

great idea
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Posted - 2003.12.28 13:12:00 - [52]

great idea
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Posted - 2004.01.07 05:12:00 - [53]

Bumpity-bump-bump-bump Very Happy
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Posted - 2004.01.07 05:12:00 - [54]

Bumpity-bump-bump-bump Very Happy
Darsk'hul
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Posted - 2004.01.07 07:14:00 - [55]

Have you suggested that power-down implies no chat at all, local and others, so you can't see who is in the place. You just have visual check.
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Posted - 2004.01.07 07:14:00 - [56]

Have you suggested that power-down implies no chat at all, local and others, so you can't see who is in the place. You just have visual check.
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Posted - 2004.01.07 12:09:00 - [57]

Shockedso. if i get this right, then the powered down state results in simply not showing any targeting brackets on the other ships... so if he manually spots you within the roid field, he can target you by right clicking... same when he does a scan..... right?

doesnt sound like a bad idea...
what about the new handy auto function of the scanner though?
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Curatores Veritatis Alliance

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Posted - 2004.01.07 12:09:00 - [58]

Shockedso. if i get this right, then the powered down state results in simply not showing any targeting brackets on the other ships... so if he manually spots you within the roid field, he can target you by right clicking... same when he does a scan..... right?

doesnt sound like a bad idea...
what about the new handy auto function of the scanner though?
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Darsk'hul
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Posted - 2004.01.07 12:30:00 - [59]

Well, maybe powered down ships should be referenced as "space debris". Following that idea, powering down its ship implies shutting down all lights (and so, change the ship texture where all lights are off), this should help to "hide" in or next abandonned stuffs (stations, debris etc etc ...).
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Darsk'hul
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Posted - 2004.01.07 12:30:00 - [60]

Well, maybe powered down ships should be referenced as "space debris". Following that idea, powering down its ship implies shutting down all lights (and so, change the ship texture where all lights are off), this should help to "hide" in or next abandonned stuffs (stations, debris etc etc ...).
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