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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
259
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Posted - 2012.11.20 13:48:00 -
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Doddy wrote:
Podkilling is a bit different, there is no gain.
For the main podkillers, pirates, podkilling serves as "next time done come through here as a noob and we might ransom you" , as well as "next time take the ransom and we won't kill you".
Now if only there was an implant scanner module, we could ALWAYS ransom the proper amount and people could go on living for a percentage of what it would have costed them...
unless they had zero implants of course. |
Alara IonStorm
3541
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Posted - 2012.11.20 13:52:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Why do Battlefield and CoD players just want to shoot each other? Sociopaths and Belligerent Undesirable I have been told.
People with Morals try to negotiate a peaceful solution and coexist on a map together. |
Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
139
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Posted - 2012.11.20 13:55:00 -
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Why not? Music for robots, geeks, hackers, and nerds. Nerdiest homepage on the internet? |
The Logi
The Scope Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.11.20 14:46:00 -
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YARRRRR There b many a reason to pirate! |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10715
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:05:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Podkilling is a bit different, there is no gain. Sorry, but you are in fact wrong about this.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
420
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:08:00 -
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Harland White wrote:To the OP, it's more a thing of parenting. It depends on how many of the players in EVE were raised, and honestly, 95% of players in EVE were not raised. At all. There is a severe lack of proper parenting in the civilized world today, and it produces some pretty nasty offspring (much of the EVE Online population is a good example) that is very detrimental to a normal society. Don't waste your time trying to explain civility or kindness to any of them---it goes completely over their heads because they weren't raised to cherish any good values like that. I'd recommend doing what some of the folks in this thread have recommended, and tank out your haulers and be very cautious. EVE is a huge attractive playground for the animals without parents, that's why it's so full of them.
Inb4 wardecs and rage replies from people I touched a nerve in.
And then you have those people who need to feel superior in order to improve their self-worth. Some will attempt to show this attitude by attacking anything they know they can kill, especially if it can't fight back. Others choose a more passive approach and try to berate the general eve population on the forums. The end result is still the same, someone out there attacking others in some manner to inflate their own self-worth by proving they are in some way superior.
It's actually kind of nice because it is part of what makes eve unique... Plus if you get frustrated with them, you can always do your own violence to knock them down a few pegs. |
Dervinus
Sniggwaffe
98
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:12:00 -
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OP got his freighter killed in lowsec earlier today, and he comes here claiming this is not a thread about "tears." Heh o7 toonies |
Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
368
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:20:00 -
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Lashauna wrote:what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?
is this all EVE is about?
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer:
You can't expect to apply ideas like honor to a game like EVE. The entire premise of the game is to observe the Eleventh Commandment: "Do Onto Others, Before They Do Onto You".
As a gamer, I always had a code of conduct of sorts. For example, if I stumble onto someone fighting NPCs in another MMO, I don't jump on top of it and yell "Gangb***g!" I'll politely wait until he's done killing AND looting. Why? Well, he did all the work, might as well make sure he gets the rewards, in case I win. We then duke it out. It's nice, clean, honorable. And it means something if I win. What meaning does it have to beat someone down who is already on the verge of possibly dying to a bunch of NPCs?
Same goes for attacking "lowbies". People who can't effectively fight back. Or "ganking" (Nv1 fights where the victim has no chance of winning, and only a slim chance of escape). I just see very little point in it, nor do I have much fun doing it.
Now, in EVE, people will tell you none of this applies, because of loot and ISK. That is a fallacy, and an obvious one at that. Because what is ISK? You can BUY ISK in EVE for crying out loud, legally. Something you can't do even in a carebear game like WoW. Want to become a billionaire in EVE? Dump a hundred bucks into the game, and viola, you're a billionaire! Congratulations, you win EVE! Credits roll, uninstall?
But hey, that's just me. I'm crazy and quirky like that. |
Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
36
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:28:00 -
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Because blowing unsuspecting and defenceless ships in Eve gives some people feelings they can never achieve in RL.
Also, do not think that honourable acts never occur in Eve. They just rarely get mentioned on the forums. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
307
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:42:00 -
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In every corner of the universe you will find those who will see this as a weakness to be exploited and those who will see it as a way of living.
If you believe what Hollywood teaches you, that good will always prevail, then find those who think like you. Who knows, you might actually make a difference.
I personally found training autocannons V helped me more than typing "karma" in local. I also found using/training the right ship also saved me countless deaths. Finally, I also found that some days, you just need to know when to back off. Accepting defeat is the hardest part towards "winning EVE Online". |
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Blind Phew
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:48:00 -
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Remember:
"Don't fly what you can't afford to lose"
&
"Don't marry someone you can't afford to get rid of"
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1646
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Posted - 2012.11.20 16:08:00 -
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Lashauna wrote:is this all EVE is about?
Some people play to build things and others play to destroy things. Each playstyle is valid and right.
. |
Alice Saki
Mug of Coffee
20185
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Posted - 2012.11.20 16:10:00 -
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A Kill is a Kill
This is Over used but oh well
http://youtu.be/5q3z4IP_nNU All You're Likes Belong to Me. |
Harland White
Circle of Fortune
19
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:10:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Harland White wrote:To the OP, it's more a thing of parenting. It depends on how many of the players in EVE were raised, and honestly, 95% of players in EVE were not raised. At all. There is a severe lack of proper parenting in the civilized world today, and it produces some pretty nasty offspring (much of the EVE Online population is a good example) that is very detrimental to a normal society. Don't waste your time trying to explain civility or kindness to any of them---it goes completely over their heads because they weren't raised to cherish any good values like that. I'd recommend doing what some of the folks in this thread have recommended, and tank out your haulers and be very cautious. EVE is a huge attractive playground for the animals without parents, that's why it's so full of them.
Inb4 wardecs and rage replies from people I touched a nerve in. And then you have those people who need to feel superior in order to improve their self-worth. Some will attempt to show this attitude by attacking anything they know they can kill, especially if it can't fight back. Others choose a more passive approach and try to berate the general eve population on the forums. The end result is still the same, someone out there attacking others in some manner to inflate their own self-worth by proving they are in some way superior. It's actually kind of nice because it is part of what makes eve unique... Plus if you get frustrated with them, you can always do your own violence to knock them down a few pegs.
Oh you so edgy and clever. I see what you did there. |
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:22:00 -
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Lashauna wrote: why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?
even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...
what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?
is this all EVE is about?
I suppose it is a matter of where you are in space.
For most of my EVE time the vast majority of players have not tried to kill me.
I've been in 0.0 space and hung out with neutrals. I've even flown next to 'reds' and not been shot at.
In high sec I had one encounter with someone who tried to kill my ship. One. In years of playing.
That means that in all of the other time nothing happened. No one tried to kill me. No one attacked me. No one did anything mean to me.
And yet, I can tell you right now that I vividly remember being attacked. But, if I am honest with myself EVE isn't anywhere near as 'harsh' as people claim it is. The greater majority of players are nice, affable, and even kind. Yeah, there are some dorks out there and there are some meanies but they aren't as prevalent as forum posts, videos, or news reports would suggest.
We just remember the bad stuff more than the quiet times. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
246
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:32:00 -
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*insert obligatory "Hello Kitty Online is that way ---> " comment... * |
Ammutseba Gangulur
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:37:00 -
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EVE aka Everyone Vs Everone. The game is designed around this concept. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
432
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:50:00 -
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Lashauna wrote:i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...
why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?
even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...
what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?
is this all EVE is about?
Short Answer: Yes
Longer Answer: YEESSSSSSSSSSSS
More Formal Answer: Afirmative
EVE is conflict. undocking is consent to be Conflict'd lol. Do't like it find a space ship game with no non-consensual pvp. CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
432
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Posted - 2012.11.20 17:52:00 -
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C DeLeon wrote:Try to see the bigger picture. If nobody would want to shoot nobody down, trying to survive in the deepwater wouldn't be thrilling. Eve is like a zombie survival game except the zombies are the other players (braaaaaaainimplants :D).
In other MMOs winning is the most exciting thing. In EvE it's the survival.
Yo CCP, can I file a petion to make this person a DEV? Promotion through Adoration lol.
Seriously, on of the best quotes i've seen today.
CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |
Merouk Baas
The Scope
1
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:17:00 -
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"Ship that has no defenses or offenses" would be a freighter, and I'd bet it was full of valuables.
So why? Because they can scoop up 50% of the valuable stuff in your cargo hold. Almost for free. |
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
421
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:30:00 -
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Dervinus wrote:OP got his freighter killed in lowsec earlier today, and he comes here claiming this is not a thread about "tears." Heh
If the above is true, this has nothing to do with honor, being kind to others, or noble playing style.
Taking a freighter into low sec with no support fleet is just plain foolish. That's like driving a Cadillac filled with bags of money into the area of the city with the highest crime rate and car thefts, then walking away with the doors open and the key in the ignition. you can expect and pray for all the honor in the world, but that car is getting stolen.
Eve has never been kind to fools. This is just more proof of that. |
XJennieX
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:33:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Dervinus wrote:OP got his freighter killed in lowsec earlier today, and he comes here claiming this is not a thread about "tears." Heh If the above is true, this has nothing to do with honor, being kind to others, or noble playing style. Taking a freighter into low sec with no support fleet is just plain foolish. That's like driving a Cadillac filled with bags of money into the area of the city with the highest crime rate and car thefts, then walking away with the doors open and the key in the ignition. you can expect and pray for all the honor in the world, but that car is getting stolen. Eve has never been kind to fools. This is just more proof of that.
havent you heard? taking freighter to anywhere aka undocking is atm foolish. |
Lord Calus
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
51
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:34:00 -
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ABLOO. |
Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
154
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:41:00 -
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IT MAKES ME FEEL BIG AND STRONG! 8-D |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
421
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:44:00 -
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XJennieX wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Dervinus wrote:OP got his freighter killed in lowsec earlier today, and he comes here claiming this is not a thread about "tears." Heh If the above is true, this has nothing to do with honor, being kind to others, or noble playing style. Taking a freighter into low sec with no support fleet is just plain foolish. That's like driving a Cadillac filled with bags of money into the area of the city with the highest crime rate and car thefts, then walking away with the doors open and the key in the ignition. you can expect and pray for all the honor in the world, but that car is getting stolen. Eve has never been kind to fools. This is just more proof of that. havent you heard? taking freighter to anywhere aka undocking is atm foolish.
No, taking freighters filled with too much loot past known choke point systems is foolish, especially on auto pilot. Limited the value of the cargo to around 1 billion isk and avoiding systems like sivala or uedema is very safe. |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
244
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Posted - 2012.11.20 21:11:00 -
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It is the EvE culture.
I used to play Jump Gate [classic]. As a noob, I stayed in the "noob area" thinking I was safe from PKs. Turns out that game was a total sandbox + non consentual PvP and I could have been killed at any time. In EvE, I would have been. But the culture of that game was that you only PvP consentually. If a potential opponent does not want to PvP, you leave them alone. Not ALL players followed that cutural norm, but 99% did.
ROFLSTOMPing nubz whenever possible is the EvE culture.
(my spell checker is broken) |
Pontifex Rex
DESTINATION CHAOS Zombie Ninja Space Bears
10
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Posted - 2012.11.20 21:50:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Dervinus wrote:OP got his freighter killed in lowsec earlier today, and he comes here claiming this is not a thread about "tears." Heh If the above is true, this has nothing to do with honor, being kind to others, or noble playing style.
Its true, just check "big kills" on Eve-Kill for today. Unfortunately linking to killboards is not *allowed* here, so you will have to check for yourself. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
498
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Posted - 2012.11.20 21:55:00 -
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Is this a 'My Freighter/Mining barge got ganked, WAAAAAAAAA' thread? If it is, what number would this be? Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
45
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Posted - 2012.11.20 22:02:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:XJennieX wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Dervinus wrote:OP got his freighter killed in lowsec earlier today, and he comes here claiming this is not a thread about "tears." Heh If the above is true, this has nothing to do with honor, being kind to others, or noble playing style. Taking a freighter into low sec with no support fleet is just plain foolish. That's like driving a Cadillac filled with bags of money into the area of the city with the highest crime rate and car thefts, then walking away with the doors open and the key in the ignition. you can expect and pray for all the honor in the world, but that car is getting stolen. Eve has never been kind to fools. This is just more proof of that. havent you heard? taking freighter to anywhere aka undocking is atm foolish. No, taking freighters filled with too much loot past known choke point systems is foolish, especially on auto pilot. Limited the value of the cargo to around 1 billion isk and avoiding systems like sivala or uedema is very safe. This. I have two hauler chars living close to Uedama and go with them through Sivala and Uedama more or less regularly to Jita and Amarr.
Jita undock is an unfriendly place for any kind of hauler, but you can mostly stay away from trouble with an instant undock bookmark there. The Kaputeenen / Niarja and especially the Niarja / Madirmilire gates are worse than the surroundings of Uedama in my opinion. |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1314
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Posted - 2012.11.20 22:28:00 -
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Ocih wrote:EVE is a 'blow stuff up' game. Everything about the game requires ships to be blown up. There are a million reasons why things are the way they are right now in this game. I'm not sure it can be fixed. You're implying something needs fixing about this. |
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