i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?






please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times

The concept of 'honor' around killing ships died with the 'U-Boat Menace' in WWI with any lasting hope of it it going up in smoke and down in flames in the Laconia Incident in 1942.

The concept of 'honor' around killing ships died with the 'U-Boat Menace' in WWI with any lasting hope of it it going up in smoke and down in flames in the Laconia Incident in 1942.

The concept of 'honour' in applied violence died with chivalric tournaments sometimes around the 15th century. Arthur Conan Doyle's "Sir Nigel" and "The White Company" are a delightfully nostalgic and sentimental farewell salute to the concept. For the last half-millenium, professionals have got the job done with a minimum of risk because dying so someone else can read a god damb bedtime story is possibly the worst cause I can imagine.

The concept of 'honour' in applied violence died with chivalric tournaments sometimes around the 15th century. Arthur Conan Doyle's "Sir Nigel" and "The White Company" are a delightfully nostalgic and sentimental farewell salute to the concept. For the last half-millenium, professionals have got the job done with a minimum of risk because dying so someone else can read a god damb bedtime story is possibly the worst cause I can imagine.

also heroism died the same day. Those 9/11 heroes firemen in NY? lazy tossers who were to scared to go up those stairs. The ones who died were too stupid and deserved to die anyway.

The concept of 'honour' in applied violence died with chivalric tournaments sometimes around the 15th century. Arthur Conan Doyle's "Sir Nigel" and "The White Company" are a delightfully nostalgic and sentimental farewell salute to the concept. For the last half-millenium, professionals have got the job done with a minimum of risk because dying so someone else can read a god damb bedtime story is possibly the worst cause I can imagine.

You don't know much about cats or EVE.

I have three cats.

also heroism died the same day. Those 9/11 heroes firemen in NY? lazy tossers who were to scared to go up those stairs. The ones who died were too stupid and deserved to die anyway.

Honour is irrelevant to most people.
Killmails are relevant to some people.
Gain is relevant to most people.

So a defenceless ship is almost always worth killing to most people, given that there is always at least the chance of gain plus a killmail.

Podkilling is a bit different, there is no gain.

also heroism died the same day. Those 9/11 heroes firemen in NY? lazy tossers who were to scared to go up those stairs. The ones who died were too stupid and deserved to die anyway.

Having standards is work. It requires you to think.

While people pretend they want that in EVE what they really mean is they want to be able to min/max and number crunch.

That's simply not true, everyone has lines they simply will not cross. The problem is, a lot of people forget that EVE is a game where those lines don't apply. Blowing up pixels isn't the same thing as [insert lines you won't cross IRL here].

EVE is an MMO. A social scenario. There are plenty of people in EVE who have no bottom. They will scrape the barrel like there is no tomorrow and do anything they are allowed to get away with to 'win EVE'. You and I both know it. EVE is supposed to be built on consequence and the fact is, there is none.

Well, there are consequences in EvE, they just are the same sort of consequences you'd face for such behavior in reality.

When your character simply need have no fear of death, and imprisonment isn't really a viable option (I suppose you can always find a way to commit suicide if you really want to... but actually being locked up makes for a boring game), the only consequences that can befall you are loss of possessions or loss of status (reputation). The former can sting for awhile, the latter (if done properly) can leave a mark you won't soon forget.

is this all EVE is about?

The concept of 'honour' in applied violence died with chivalric tournaments sometimes around the 15th century. Arthur Conan Doyle's "Sir Nigel" and "The White Company" are a delightfully nostalgic and sentimental farewell salute to the concept. For the last half-millenium, professionals have got the job done with a minimum of risk because dying so someone else can read a god damb bedtime story is possibly the worst cause I can imagine.

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."

- George S. Patton

GǪalso, the reason the French lost at Agincourt was because they were a bunch of killwh0res who wanted points for getting as many squishy peasants as possible on their score board, only this time, they got baited and kited.

Sounds awfully familiar even some 600 years later, doesn't it?

Please note the above quote does not say "The object of war is not to die for your country, So lets go club defenseless villagers to death"

I have three cats. But by all means, don't let little things like facts get in the way of your self-important delusions. Keep trying and you might make assistant manager someday.

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