i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?






please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times

honor?...do not waste both of our times

Please note the above quote does not say "The object of war is not to die for your country, So lets go club defenseless villagers to death"

Are we still pondering why people get ganked oh god?

i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?






please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times

Consequences in EVE are purely idealistic with no mechanics to enforce them. Why I push for standards in EVE, without a mechanic to back them it's fluff and that's what consequences are in EVE. Laughable fluff. I'm not gullible. I really don't know how CCP can change it and make us accountable. it isn't an accusation, just an observation.

The reason that they do it basic human psychology. It is the classic "pecking order." You can see in other species as well. For example, let us say that you have three cats in a house. A big cat, a medium sized cat, and a tiny cat. The big swats at the medium sized cat. The medium sized cat does not fight back, however, because he knows that he can not win. Instead he goes over and swats the tiny cat to make himself feel empowered again.

Humans are no different and, sadly, no better in this regard. When some sad person gets yelled at by their boss they can not fight back. So the come home, log into EvE, and gank a helpless miner. Or their mother tells them to do household chores and the self-entitled little twit feels that this is some sort of cosmic injustice that must be avenged, but he obviously is not about to stand up for himself in real life, so again he logs onto EvE and goes to look for an unarmed freighter to prey upon.

The "big cats" in this picture of EvE would be the nullsec alliances with their fleets of titans and capital ships, able to cyno in giant blobs to crush any opposition faster than lag itself. The "tiny cats" are the miners, freighters, and other "carebare" types. The gankers, pirates and whatnot are the "middle cats." They are not big enough, skilled enough, or strong enough to take on the major players in the harsh world of PvP. So instead they seek out those even weaker than themselves to prey upon. A cheap self-delusional affirmation of power over someone else designed to make them feel better & distract them from their own weakness & inability to play in the "big cat" league.

The reason to commit violence is to achieve violence.

Violence is a great equaliser in that it is something anyone can achieve, some better than others.
It is an undiluted concept, simple in its nature and also a part in nature which is red in tooth and claw.
It is a great achievement to do violence well and generally its goals are made and achieved by its participants.
Death is a a part of life and in order for some life to flourish death and destruction are the methods for sustaining it
and also moving the universe along otherwise you get stagnation.

crazy cat lady stuff.

Ive always wanted to gank someone, ive been ganked before.
Only reason I haven't done it is "lol sec status hit" and I haven't grown a pair yet.

Maybe one day ill stop being a 100% bear and only be a 99% bear.

The time it took for you to write up this moronic, simplistic codswallop would have been better spent changing your overflowing kitty litter box.

because killing you and taking your stuff is how i make money.

No no no its all to do with with cats you see

Does that mean that our Avatars will soon have a /dance emote, and we will have an overwhelming desire to be part of a Broadway musical?

i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?


please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times

My corp always has a shoot and recruit policy. If we kill someone who's unaffiliated and they seem to either show a bit of toughness or good sportsmanship about it, we tend to talk to them and get a feel for them and we recruit a lot of members that way.

All and all I consider it fair. Unless if a noob is a few days or weeks old, he/she should know better than to allow themselves to get killed. Learning to survive is the first thing you have to learn in eve, and I help to teach that.

Shoot-and-recruit policy... I like that term and I fully agree. When you play in lowsec / WH you are just as well playing a survival game. There's also the other side of the coin, like surviving an attempt on your ship that would have absolutely slaughtered the uninitiated. That super-expensive pirate Cynabal on the gate? Yeah, just throw 3x warp stabs on a hoarder and a few shield extenders for a whopping 5000+ EHP and you pass that dude with 50% shield damage and 0 effort. You then harvest his empty threats (aka pirate tears) from local.

Honor is not a thing that matters in EVE, you can have and it is valuable to who trusts you and your own sense of what is right and wrong but it is absolutely critical to understand that it has 0 relevance to other people who have their own scale of what they do.

Some people play this game as hero's, some villains, some neutral and some it is all business. Some are petty thugs and extortionist, others are syndicate bosses or warlords. Whatever the case the reality is that these people exist and precaution is key to make sure they don't break you.

Precaution against economic attacks.

* Tank your Ship. My Haulers go out with 50 Million ISK per 10K EHP and I don't leave slots unfit that can help me. I buy different ships for Cargo Capacity and Tank depending the value per m3 of Cargo
* Read Contracts, read every word and check every item.
* If something is small and very valuable it goes in a Maller or Drake instead of a stuffed Hauler and is sent separate like 200mil ISK Implants.
* If I do not have the Tank to Cargo Ratio needed I hire someone who does this professionally.

Precaution against random attacks.

* Wrap your Pod. Fitting a ship around your pod is a big deal, a Shuttle T1 Frigate or Rookie Ship can Pop but nothing of value is lost. Clone Costs and what you put in your head is valuable.
* Tank your Ship as best you can.

Precaution in General.

* I keep sizable amount of my assets either liquid or invested in items in safe stations, so when I undock if I am a victim that day I can afford the loss comfortably.
* I always have a back up or two to something important. A Mission Ship, PvP Boat, Hauler or Barge I either have more or ISK for more ready to go.
* Keep your savings on a same account alt and cash on hand for purchase on your main. A miss click in the market or on a contract and you are covered. Still be ever vigilant making sure that doesn't happen but if it does you don't break the bank by draining everything.

EVE isn't hard if you take precaution. The best analogy to survival: Don't walk around with a $1000 in Bills in your pocket, keep most of your Assets in the Bank and always wear a Seat Belt(Tank). You may get knocked down but with proper management never knocked out.

Sure you can not do some of that but that is Risk and while Risk can be profitable there is a chance of it going sideways so be prepared. Losing is never a non option.

i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?