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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2012.11.20 23:28:00 -
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Why? For lulz and ur tears.... |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3091
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Posted - 2012.11.20 23:35:00 -
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I removed a few obvious troll posts as well as non EVE related political commentary from this thread.
Forum Rules wrote:
7. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the players. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not contribute to the sense of community we want for our forums.
Please remember to post within the rules when making or responding to threads/posts, thank you - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
165
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Posted - 2012.11.20 23:36:00 -
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Vanell Draeko wrote:ISK
If your ship has no defence or offence modules must have other modules that worth something so... *shuttles* I Endorse this Product and/or Service Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1314
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Posted - 2012.11.20 23:37:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:Vanell Draeko wrote:ISK
If your ship has no defence or offence modules must have other modules that worth something so... *shuttles* And do people generally attack neutral shuttles in highsec that aren't carrying PLEX or something else valuable? |
Lance Rossiter
CHAINS Corp
12
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Posted - 2012.11.21 00:25:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Lashauna wrote:is this all EVE is about? Some people play to build things and others play to destroy things. Each playstyle is valid and right.
I strongly agree with this. Eve is a complex economic and life-in-space simulation, and creation and destruction are complimentary, if opposed, forces - just as creators and despoilers need each other to exist in order to bring the fantasy to life. You can't very well play a brutal space pirate if there's no one to rob, and it wouldn't be much of an existence as a trader or industrialist with no perils to overcome. It's all a rich tapestry. |
Tesal
49
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Posted - 2012.11.21 00:34:00 -
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Not everyone wants to kill everyone. Some people never undock. |
stoicfaux
1791
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Posted - 2012.11.21 00:46:00 -
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How many ships and modules in Eve exist for the express purpose of shooting things? How many game features center around shooting things? Let's call this "Gas."
What are the consequences to shooting other players in this game? Pretty minimal. Let's call this a "Lit Match."
Gas + Lit Match = Profit! (for CCP anyway.)
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
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Aggressive Nutmeg
265
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Posted - 2012.11.21 00:48:00 -
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A lot of players come to Eve expecting a realistic space-trading/piracy simulation. Because that's what it says on the box.
But then they discover the dumbed-down physics, the nonsensical or outright broken game mechanics and the juvenile 'ha ha u suck! can i haz ur stuff!' playerbase.
Yes, you're right. It makes no sense (in the real world) to pointlessly blow up worthless and defenceless ships. When a mentally disturbed person does do this in the real world, there are real and lasting consequences for that person. In a game like Eve, it obviously isn't going to work if you cancel the accounts of all of the mentally disturbed players - or should I say the players who enjoy roleplaying mentally disturbed players.
So you need to get past all of that, suspend your sense of logic and learn to enjoy the game for what it is. They may not have created the game many of us have fantasised about forever, but it is the best thing currently available. Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2895
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Posted - 2012.11.21 01:02:00 -
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Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: Yes, you're right. It makes no sense (in the real world) to pointlessly blow up worthless and defenceless ships. When a mentally disturbed person does do this in the real world, there are real and lasting consequences for that person.
The Egyptians said the exact same thing about the sea peoples in the late bronze age. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
433
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Posted - 2012.11.21 02:14:00 -
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Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:A lot of players come to Eve expecting a realistic space-trading/piracy simulation. Because that's what it says on the box Anyone who did this deserves their dissapointment. I spent 15 minutes goggling EVe before I D/L'd it and knew from the jump start what the game and community was about.
Quote: But then they discover the dumbed-down physics, the nonsensical or outright broken game mechanics and the juvenile 'ha ha u suck! can i haz ur stuff!' playerbase.
Yes, you're right. It makes no sense (in the real world) to pointlessly blow up worthless and defenceless ships. When a mentally disturbed person does do this in the real world, there are real and lasting consequences for that person. In a game like Eve, it obviously isn't going to work if you cancel the accounts of all of the mentally disturbed players - or should I say the players who enjoy roleplaying mentally disturbed players.
So you need to get past all of that, suspend your sense of logic and learn to enjoy the game for what it is. They may not have created the game many of us have fantasised about forever, but it is the best thing currently available.
Translation of the bolded parts" I don't really like EVE, but I like space ships and till some one makes a REALLLL!!11!1 Spaceship game I'm here".
I'd never play a game I don't like, but that's just me.
CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2945
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Posted - 2012.11.21 02:34:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tarn Kugisa wrote:Vanell Draeko wrote:ISK
If your ship has no defence or offence modules must have other modules that worth something so... *shuttles* And do people generally attack neutral shuttles in highsec that aren't carrying PLEX or something else valuable?
For some people, that's all they are capable of; and they imagine sweet tears everytime. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
125
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Posted - 2012.11.21 02:38:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Doddy wrote:Podkilling is a bit different, there is no gain. It is an important service to save power consumption on gates.
Also a service to the victim, providing them with a swift return back to the safety of their home station You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1788
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Posted - 2012.11.21 07:09:00 -
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Unfortunately, yes.
Eve is mostly about unfair, non consensual PvP in blobs or gangs against people who can't fight back. If you find yourself in an honorable, evenly matched fight, you've done it wrong.
But I would like to see CCP expand on this. Give more depth to dimensions of Eve such as WiS, PvE content, social co-operation that does not include guns, PI, manufacturing, research, economic participation and so on.
That having been said, I would like to see Eve PvP/pew pew based gameplay expanded into WiS as well.... so we can blow things up outside of spaceships as well.... Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Kara Vix
Perkone Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2012.11.21 07:16:00 -
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Welcome to Killboard Online, where killmails are the only thing that matters for most players. |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
125
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Posted - 2012.11.21 07:17:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Unfortunately, yes.
Eve is mostly about unfair, non consensual PvP in blobs or gangs against people who can't fight back. If you find yourself in an honorable, evenly matched fight, you've done it wrong.
But I would like to see CCP expand on this. Give more depth to dimensions of Eve such as WiS, PvE content, social co-operation that does not include guns, PI, manufacturing, research, economic participation and so on.
That having been said, I would like to see Eve PvP/pew pew based gameplay expanded into WiS as well.... so we can blow things up outside of spaceships as well....
**** WiS, this is a game about spaceships - if you want WiS, go back to Habbo Hotel. There is STACKS of social co-operation there - this is a game about spaceships, space battles, etc, not going to the local coffee shop to chat with friends and ride ponies. And as for "blowing stuff up outside of spaceships", what do you think DUST 514 is? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
70
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Posted - 2012.11.21 07:25:00 -
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Ra Jackson wrote:Harland White wrote:To the OP, it's more a thing of parenting. It depends on how many of the players in EVE were raised, and honestly, 95% of players in EVE were not raised. At all. There is a severe lack of proper parenting in the civilized world today, and it produces some pretty nasty offspring (much of the EVE Online population is a good example) that is very detrimental to a normal society. Don't waste your time trying to explain civility or kindness to any of them---it goes completely over their heads because they weren't raised to cherish any good values like that. I'd recommend doing what some of the folks in this thread have recommended, and tank out your haulers and be very cautious. EVE is a huge attractive playground for the animals without parents, that's why it's so full of them.
Inb4 wardecs and rage replies from people I touched a nerve in. Not sure if serious, but people trying to compare real life values with values in a VIDEOGAME scare the crap out of me
To be fair, he's absolutely right. If this forum is representative of the general Eve populace, then the majority of you are just completely unhelpful, griefing tards. I've never known a game like it for stinking attitudes and tardy behaviour.
'Because I can' is not an excuse.
If it weren't for the fact that I like to Care Bear and occasional PVP with RvB I wouldn't play Eve at all.
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
286
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Posted - 2012.11.21 07:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: Yes, you're right. It makes no sense (in the real world) to pointlessly blow up worthless and defenceless ships. When a mentally disturbed person does do this in the real world, there are real and lasting consequences for that person.
The Egyptians said the exact same thing about the sea peoples in the late bronze age.
And they built an empire on the super rare resource, salt. |
Dalmont Delantee
Dropbears with Kebabs SpaceMonkey's Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.11.21 08:04:00 -
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Harland White wrote:To the OP, it's more a thing of parenting. It depends on how many of the players in EVE were raised, and honestly, 95% of players in EVE were not raised. At all. There is a severe lack of proper parenting in the civilized world today, and it produces some pretty nasty offspring (much of the EVE Online population is a good example) that is very detrimental to a normal society. Don't waste your time trying to explain civility or kindness to any of them---it goes completely over their heads because they weren't raised to cherish any good values like that. I'd recommend doing what some of the folks in this thread have recommended, and tank out your haulers and be very cautious. EVE is a huge attractive playground for the animals without parents, that's why it's so full of them.
Inb4 wardecs and rage replies from people I touched a nerve in.
That is very sad you think its to do with upbringing when really its to do with playing the game, a game where you can do snything. Now the bad upbringing is things like exploiting, botting and RMT - basically not playing the game by the same rules as everyone else.
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KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1110
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Posted - 2012.11.21 08:21:00 -
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Harland White wrote:To the OP, it's more a thing of parenting. It depends on how many of the players in EVE were raised, and honestly, 95% of players in EVE were not raised. At all. There is a severe lack of proper parenting in the civilized world today, and it produces some pretty nasty offspring (much of the EVE Online population is a good example) that is very detrimental to a normal society. Don't waste your time trying to explain civility or kindness to any of them---it goes completely over their heads because they weren't raised to cherish any good values like that. I'd recommend doing what some of the folks in this thread have recommended, and tank out your haulers and be very cautious. EVE is a huge attractive playground for the animals without parents, that's why it's so full of them.
Inb4 wardecs and rage replies from people I touched a nerve in. Pure gold. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Aggressive Nutmeg
265
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Posted - 2012.11.21 08:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: Yes, you're right. It makes no sense (in the real world) to pointlessly blow up worthless and defenceless ships. When a mentally disturbed person does do this in the real world, there are real and lasting consequences for that person.
The Egyptians said the exact same thing about the sea peoples in the late bronze age.
No. No they didn't. The 'sea peoples'? Who the fark are the seas peoples? Is this some kind of pre-school Americanised understanding of ancient history?
Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1788
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Posted - 2012.11.21 08:28:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Unfortunately, yes.
Eve is mostly about unfair, non consensual PvP in blobs or gangs against people who can't fight back. If you find yourself in an honorable, evenly matched fight, you've done it wrong.
But I would like to see CCP expand on this. Give more depth to dimensions of Eve such as WiS, PvE content, social co-operation that does not include guns, PI, manufacturing, research, economic participation and so on.
That having been said, I would like to see Eve PvP/pew pew based gameplay expanded into WiS as well.... so we can blow things up outside of spaceships as well.... **** WiS, this is a game about spaceships - if you want WiS, go back to Habbo Hotel. There is STACKS of social co-operation there - this is a game about spaceships, space battles, etc, not going to the local coffee shop to chat with friends and ride ponies. And as for "blowing stuff up outside of spaceships", what do you think DUST 514 is?
Oh look.... a 2012 alt who thinks his opinion matters... Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1110
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Posted - 2012.11.21 08:31:00 -
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Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:baltec1 wrote:Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: Yes, you're right. It makes no sense (in the real world) to pointlessly blow up worthless and defenceless ships. When a mentally disturbed person does do this in the real world, there are real and lasting consequences for that person.
The Egyptians said the exact same thing about the sea peoples in the late bronze age. No. No they didn't. The 'sea peoples'? Who the fark are the seas peoples? Is this some kind of pre-school Americanised understanding of ancient history? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples
Better send your kids to American schools then bucky boy. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
347
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Posted - 2012.11.21 08:40:00 -
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This is why lowsec doesn't work, its designed around the idea that you don't want to shoot other random people unless you're a pirate.
..Or maybe we're all just pirates? |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting The Paganism Alliance
122
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Posted - 2012.11.21 08:45:00 -
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I have had my bike stolen IRL a lot more times then my Industrial blown up in Eve. The Eve community isn't that bad. |
Herr Hammer Draken
160
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Posted - 2012.11.21 08:49:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I have had my bike stolen IRL a lot more times then my Industrial blown up in Eve. The Eve community isn't that bad.
I only had one bike stolen from me and that was back in 1966. 46 years ago! Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
232
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Posted - 2012.11.21 09:37:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:This is why lowsec doesn't work, its designed around the idea that you don't want to shoot other random people unless you're a pirate.
..Or maybe we're all just pirates?
In the 'favorite trailer' thread the Revelations II trailer gets mentioned a lot. ;tldr version of that trailer and the objectives of EVE Online center around the idea that the human race is a virus with the fated mission, to devour its host and see its own extinction. Every thing in EVE was made to be destroyed, including EVE itself. R.I.P. Vile Rat |
XJennieX
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.11.21 10:02:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I have had my bike stolen IRL a lot more times then my Industrial blown up in Eve. The Eve community isn't that bad.
guess how many bikes would have ben stolen if nobody would ever have to face any consequences for doing so. granted in case of stealing bicycle many times criminal is not found hence no consequences but for the normal law abiding citizen the threat of punishment is usually enough to not commit act. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2896
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Posted - 2012.11.21 10:02:00 -
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Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
No. No they didn't. The 'sea peoples'? Who the fark are the seas peoples? Is this some kind of pre-school Americanised understanding of ancient history?
The sea peoples were the first recorded pirates in human history, apearing is the 19th dynasty of the Egyptian Empire around 2000-1600 BC. Probably best to not mouth off before looking these things up given that it was written on stone obolisks over 3500 to 4000 years before America was even found.
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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
193
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Posted - 2012.11.21 11:08:00 -
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Short answer : You can! Easy answer : Why not? Best answer : Kill Mail! Professionel answer : Fun! Logic answer : Shoot first question later Troll answer : Its a game! Me answer : You are a spy kill it. |
turmajin
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.11.21 11:56:00 -
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Lowsec doesnt work ,because the rewards for living/playing there arnt in scale to the risk to warrent players wanting to live/play there .Perhaps if the PVE aspect of Lowsec paid more per mission incursion ect in ISK and LP bigger faction standing, buffs and more better quality drops from rats/npcs compared to Highsec or emp space ,players would take the gamble.As it is atm ,most skill up in highsec .then jump straight into 0.0 or WH space .Where the reward to risk ratio make it worth while.Of course it means nerfing high sec missions ect somewhat,to acomplish this. to avoid a massive influx of ISK into the game and inflation.and i bet you can hear the howls of protest even now lol |
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