... CCP's pretty much using the numbers I suggested, so if you got a problem with it blame me.

CCP Punkturis, an important question was raised above.


If they shoot back in self-defense, currently you don't get a killright for opting to defend yourself, regardless of death or not.


As of this change, will defending yourself forfeit your kill right on initial engagement?

If you're shot in highsec and not instantly killed, CONCORD should relieve your attacker of their pretty swiftly. Not sure about if you shoot back at them (it doesn't usually come up)...

I was just pointing out in a fun way that I like his idea and I hope that people will have fun with bounties and kill rights as that is pretty much the goal of our feature

I would like to give you the opportunity to deny the horrible rumor that is going around that bounty payouts on members of the CSM that you don't like are automatically doubled. Thanks in advance!

Your bestest friend on the council,
Trebor

The possibility of this scaling IMHO stifles war decc's by making them too high a barrier is my issue with it. Now it appears that the Goons & other large NULL SEC alliances are rarely being decc'd because of it. Any stats on if the # of war decc's has increased; also also seperately has the ISK sink decreased because possibly people can't afford wardecc's?

Looks to me as if this scaling will most help many of those Alliances whom sit on the CSM

The war dec fee should only be based on characters actively training a skill. Corps and alliances use alts to bloat the war dec fee to evade a possible war dec. Now this tactic will become more effective.

Really would like CCP to address this. How about it CCP? CSM??

Also it applies more to low sec where concord is not there to bail you out. Did you guys test to see??

pods cant shoot back anyway.

You should really read dev blogs in order before you post in anger

#alektookcareofit

Hans Jagerblitzen and Alekseyev Karrde together with other have already noted how excessive is the nerf in capacity to ASB, it hits the small and medium sized ships terribly... at the end the the question is, why would someone use an ASB if the total hitpoints he can get are the same as the equivalent sized shield extender?

True, it can be overheated, but it will create damage, and true it can be reloaded, but for practical purposes once it starts reloading you're either out of the fight or you'll die.
The shield extender increases the HPs but also increases the shield recharge /s, it's easier to fit, and protects from alpha much better than an ASB does.

ASBs are a problem when used in pairs or when they can be oversized, but on most ships they are fine as they are as just a decent alternative to shield buffer after all.
Surely there's still time to review this nerf before the expansion.

So what is the point of the new bounty system if we still cant kill people with bounty on thier heads. The new bounty system is not going to make bounty hunting a career possibility, People with bounty are still safe to stay in NPC corps and never venture into low/null cant be war dec'd, so the bounty is unclaimable and therefore a waste of isk and time just like in the old system. We should be able to buy kill rights from the bounty office, OR sign up to the bounty off like FW that gives players/corps/allience kill rights over anyone who has a bounty on thier head.

So asking a question is considered posting in anger? I have read that dev blog a few times before and my question I asked above was very specific. I thought the entire point of threads like these is so us, the players, can ask questions and provide feed back.

If it was tested and confirmed to still grant the kill right then all you had to say was, "Yes, we tested it and made sure the kill right would not be voided by defending yourself." Christ...

Performing an action against another player that gets you a Criminal flag will also award a kill-right to that person. This will happen regardless of whether or not the target ship was destroyed.

I would like to give you the opportunity to deny the horrible rumor that is going around that bounty payouts on members of the CSM that you don't like are automatically doubled. Thanks in advance!

Your bestest friend on the council,
Trebor

from our initial feedback we got that some people wanted the name there and others not, for those who want to make it known like "yo I don't like you, I'm placing a bounty on you" can just do it with their own dude... others can use alts or a corporation specializing in placing bounties for others

Most interested in the Battle Noctis

Off the top of my head I can think of a few issues that still have not been addressed.

- Bounty contracts need to expire, just like normal contracts. This also solves the issue of "person quits playing for 5 months, what happens to my money?". If the bounty expires under that case, there's not much reason why it couldn't be limited to 30/60/90 days in the normal case. Personally, I think a 30-day limit would strike a nice balance between longevity and being able to grief someone out of the game for 5 months.

- The overview / local indicator for who has a bounty will be mostly useless in places like Jita where bored pilots will just place 100k bounties on anyone in local. There needs to be an overview setting where you can set limits on the minimum bounty amount.

- There needs to be a limit on how many bounties you can place at once, just like public contracts. Maybe it initially uses up the contract slots until a specific skill could be added later. This would also help fight the "bored pilots placing bounties on everyone" issue.

- As much as CCP cries about inflation, you're still passing up the opportunity to add at least some sort of ISK sink into the public bounties. Such as setup fees, taxes on the total amount (1-5%) and only returning some (80-90%) of the remaining bounty if it expires.

you won't get a kill report in your list, but you get a notification telling you that your kill right was used up by someone. and the kill report will say that the pilot was killed on your behalf.

Why not tie the bounty system and the kill right system?

So in addition to the current changes:
A person could sell a kill right to an actually bounty hunter who then can hunt the target. Upon kill the bounty hunter would then get 100% of only the bounty that the player who sold the kill right put on him. plus he then would get all the rest of the normal bounty payout if more people had bounties on the target.

This basically acts as a contract, sell kill right for 25m but put a 50 mil bounty on target. When target is killed you also receive a killmail so you know the details of the kill and if you want to use that bounty hunter again.
Seems fair and easy, It would not detract from the current system and just adds a little more flavor.